The Spring condominium located along the Jelutong Expressway that gives a panoramic view of the Penang Bridge. The concept of the project is modern contemporary and emphasizing on its Tropical Garden features.
The Spring Condominium comprises 396 condominium units in total. The built up area ranging from 925 to 1,281 sq.ft.
Property Project : The Spring Condominium
Location : Georgetown, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
Total Units : 396
Built-up Area : approx. 925 - 1,281 sq.ft.
Developer : IJM Properties Sdn Bhd
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«Oldest ‹Older 1601 – 1800 of 2397 Newer› Newest»Hi Ooi,Joanna and her ppl is from Property talk agency and dont buy Surin from this company.
Hong Leong,
Firstly, we welcome you to the Spring family.
But not all us are born equal so some people just like to take things lying down and accept their fate. For us, we choose to try.We are not doing it for ourselves only but for the benefit of the JE residents.
If you cant help, maybe the best thing to do is to keep quiet. You are being more selfish by giving such comments. MAybe your whole life has been like that so its no wonder the Spring is the most you can afford. So since you will be here for quite a while, might as well help us fight the cause...
And for the record, its spelt selfish without the "-". Lets just hope your mentality does not go lower than your spelling ability.
Hi Hong Leong,
It's not that we want to relocate or to upgrade the dump site just because we bought SPRING. It's because the dump site is an environmental hazard. Just think why the government ban open burning or why we have laws protecting endangered species. Think why we have WHO, Greenpeace, WWF, etc. I'm sure you are smart enough.
Since JE has been beautified by IJM, then the dump site will really be an eyesore. Just look at other countries. They upgraded their cow dung site to generate methane gas. We can do that and it will directly increase the revenue of Penang state. This is call proactive. Some one have to start at some point of time and NOW is the time and we are the people. If everyone takes care of their own neighborhood, then the world will be a better place to live in. Just don't be like some people who have that "Tidak apa attitude..." Imagine what Penang or Malaysia will be like with that attitude.
Cheers,
My takes on The Spring:
Positive:
Sea view, bridge view, close to promenade.
Negative:
Near dump site, next to highway, high dense, pagar (why no concrete wall???), no swimming pool.
Just realized someone offers to sell for less than $300 with sea view and two carparks in mudah. Hopefully got people snap up this unit once OC. If not, the price will go down further.
Hong Leong/HL,
Please improve your English because its very confusing and irritating to read your post. That's why Malaysia must use English for Math & Science. :P
BK,
I don't think the Spring is high dense. Anyway, high dense is good that you get more maintenance money and the place can be maintain well. And no swimming pool reduce maintenance and surely the maintenance fee won't increase in future unlike condo with swimming pool like the one I bought (Summer Place) :P
I read somewhere on this blog that the maintenance fee + sinking fund is approx. RM170/month. It is reasonable only if The Spring has more facilities.
Hi all,
i believe that Hong Leong/HL is not one of The Spring owners but a decoy to spur up nonsensical comments.. thus, it's safe to ignore this kind of low-mentality arguments..
Quoting from US President Barack Obama during his Presidential Debate:
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek"
-US President Barack Obama-
BK,
SPRING's maintenance is only 0.14 cents per sq ft.
OK. 0.14psf is quite standard for Penang condo. Plus sinking fund should be around there. Smaller units pay less. Fair.
Oh please, when you heard something that you do not expect to hear, or simply did not please you, That does not mean that other people has low mentality.
It is normal for certain type of people to convince and convince himself that this is good, this is good. This like some sort of every morning, He will keep on reminding himself that "The spring is good, The spring is good and perfect" for 50 times before going to work.
If that is the case, let' s together we implant the following to our mind every night before going to sleep:
The dumpsite problem- The dumpsite will be removed very soon. The state government will invest in the landscaping at once making that site another jogging place second only to the Penang Botanical Garden. State government under the directive of Ooi will give this project Priority No.1
The Spring will be the envious of everybody, as there is a beautiful garden nearby transformed from a dumpsite to a brand new Japanese Garden.
The Waste Water treatment plant will be shifted else where very soon as well making sure that no smell will disturb the residents of The Spring. If this can not be done, the state goverment will invest on High Tech solution to ensure no smell whatsoever to escape from this plant. The surrounding of the The Spring will be installed will sensor to sense any smell intrusion.
The traffic which will be chocked up soon in the nearby junction due to high density of the area with many blocks of low and medium cost housing when every one move in will be solved at once also for the sake of The Spring residents. Police traffic will be there 24 hours making sure The Spring residents will not be inconvenient to ensure they will not form any committee making representation to the government again.
Every thing is Perfect. Ideal and Utopia.
April 7, 2009 2:52 PM
Oh please, when you did not hear something that you do not expect to hear, or simply did not please you, That does not mean that other people has low mentality.
It is normal for certain type of people to convince and convince himself that this is good, this is good. This like some sort of every morning, He will keep on reminding himself that "The spring is good, The spring is good and perfect" for 50 times before going to work.
If that is the case, let' s together we implant the following to our mind every night before going to sleep:
The dumpsite problem- The dumpsite will be removed very soon. The state government will invest in the landscaping at once making that site another jogging place second only to the Penang Botanical Garden. State government under the directive of Ooi will give this project Priority No.1
The Spring will be the envious of everybody, as there is a beautiful garden nearby transformed from a dumpsite to a brand new Japanese Garden.
The Waste Water treatment plant will be shifted else where very soon as well making sure that no smell will disturb the residents of The Spring. If this can not be done, the state goverment will invest on High Tech solution to ensure no smell whatsoever to escape from this plant. The surrounding of the The Spring will be installed will sensor to sense any smell intrusion.
The traffic which will be chocked up soon in the nearby junction due to high density of the area with many blocks of low and medium cost housing when every one move in will be solved at once also for the sake of The Spring residents. Police traffic will be there 24 hours making sure The Spring residents will not be inconvenient to ensure they will not form any committee making representation to the government again.
Every thing is Perfect. Ideal and Utopia.
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Oh please, when you did not hear something that you do not expect to hear, or simply did not please you, That does not mean that other people has low mentality.
It is normal for certain type of people to convince and convince himself that this is good, this is good. This like some sort of every morning, He will keep on reminding himself that "The spring is good, The spring is good and perfect" for 50 times before going to work.
If that is the case, let' s together we implant the following to our mind every night before going to sleep:
The dumpsite problem- The dumpsite will be removed very soon. The state government will invest in the landscaping at once making that site another jogging place second only to the Penang Botanical Garden. State government under the directive of Ooi will give this project Priority No.1
The Spring will be the envious of everybody, as there is a beautiful garden nearby transformed from a dumpsite to a brand new Japanese Garden.
The Waste Water treatment plant will be shifted else where very soon as well making sure that no smell will disturb the residents of The Spring. If this can not be done, the state goverment will invest on High Tech solution to ensure no smell whatsoever to escape from this plant. The surrounding of the The Spring will be installed will sensor to sense any smell intrusion.
The traffic which will be chocked up soon in the nearby junction due to high density of the area with many blocks of low and medium cost housing when every one move in will be solved at once also for the sake of The Spring residents. Police traffic will be there 24 hours making sure The Spring residents will not be inconvenient to ensure they will not form any committee making representation to the government again.
Every thing is Perfect. Ideal and Utopia.
April 7, 2009 2:52 PM
Oh please, when you did not hear something that you do not expect to hear, or simply did not please you, That does not mean that other people has low mentality.
It is normal for certain type of people to convince and convince himself that this is good, this is good. This like some sort of every morning, He will keep on reminding himself that "The spring is good, The spring is good and perfect" for 50 times before going to work.
If that is the case, let' s together we implant the following to our mind every night before going to sleep:
The dumpsite problem- The dumpsite will be removed very soon. The state government will invest in the landscaping at once making that site another jogging place second only to the Penang Botanical Garden. State government under the directive of Ooi will give this project Priority No.1
The Spring will be the envious of everybody, as there is a beautiful garden nearby transformed from a dumpsite to a brand new Japanese Garden.
The Waste Water treatment plant will be shifted else where very soon as well making sure that no smell will disturb the residents of The Spring. If this can not be done, the state goverment will invest on High Tech solution to ensure no smell whatsoever to escape from this plant. The surrounding of the The Spring will be installed will sensor to sense any smell intrusion.
The traffic which will be chocked up soon in the nearby junction due to high density of the area with many blocks of low and medium cost housing when every one move in will be solved at once also for the sake of The Spring residents. Police traffic will be there 24 hours making sure The Spring residents will not be inconvenient to ensure they will not form any committee making representation to the government again.
Every thing is Perfect. Ideal and Utopia.
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Oh please, when you did not hear something that you do not expect to hear, or simply did not please you, That does not mean that other people has low mentality.
It is normal for certain type of people to convince and convince himself that this is good, this is good. This like some sort of every morning, He will keep on reminding himself that "The spring is good, The spring is good and perfect" for 50 times before going to work.
If that is the case, let' s together we implant the following to our mind every night before going to sleep:
The dumpsite problem- The dumpsite will be removed very soon. The state government will invest in the landscaping at once making that site another jogging place second only to the Penang Botanical Garden. State government under the directive of Ooi will give this project Priority No.1
The Spring will be the envious of everybody, as there is a beautiful garden nearby transformed from a dumpsite to a brand new Japanese Garden.
The Waste Water treatment plant will be shifted else where very soon as well making sure that no smell will disturb the residents of The Spring. If this can not be done, the state goverment will invest on High Tech solution to ensure no smell whatsoever to escape from this plant. The surrounding of the The Spring will be installed will sensor to sense any smell intrusion.
The traffic which will be chocked up soon in the nearby junction due to high density of the area with many blocks of low and medium cost housing when every one move in will be solved at once also for the sake of The Spring residents. Police traffic will be there 24 hours making sure The Spring residents will not be inconvenient to ensure they will not form any committee making representation to the government again.
Every thing is Perfect. Ideal and Utopia.
Come on, ACCEPT THE FACT and move on.
And why quote only 1 US President since there are many of them since George Washington?
Let's listen to this US President:
John Adams :
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence"
Please la, sounds like sour grapes to me.
When we bought The Spring, we have taking all the problem into consideration. All property has pro & cons. Property with Good quality, good location and without any problem only happen in your dream.
The selling price by the developer is fair to me. At least save me 1 hour travelling time everday! Just imagine how much I can earn with this extra one hour. (Oops, sorry, Accountant point of view)
After all, its willing buyer willing seller.
Wow, what happened with this poor guy? Kiang du hoh, mai keh kiang. LoL.
War between "High" and "Low" mentality. Come on, please leave us with a calm place to share the ideas about the property and useful information about renovation, furniture etc. Please take all your crappy quotes and your crappy self away. Again, "Kiang du hoh, Mai Keh Kiang"
wah... so many people put their comments in this SPRING blog. This can only mean one thing. OC is coming soon. Very very soon. Because after dapat OC, sure harga naik lagi :-)
economy no good the place cant no naik lagi la.
Competition is going to be very stiff for property subsale in the downturn. Many just completed(with or without OC) apartment/condominium unit buyers are putting up their asking price and contact numbers. Anyway, I still don't understand why IJM would use a "pagar" as fense for this project.
Spring Bau BUSUK lar..
Bodoh punya ppl will only buy there..
I will just wait n see when the dumpsite will become a JAPANESE GARDEN.. (>_<)
The dumpsite hv been there for so long time..
I think Mr Jeff because of The Spring concern maybe will try move it to beside The SUMMER..
Then when THE SUMMER guy make noise.. Maybe he will finally decide not to do anything..
HAHAHA.. funny..!!
Come on.. try to korek your brain.. Penang was an small island.. why the dumpsite being there in the first place.. !!!
Or maybe IJM/ Mr Jeff will allocate the dumpsite
another one? Pity you. Crappy comments and crappy self are equally "BUSUK" though. Perhaps the only place for them would be the dumpsite. No wonder fight like mad to keep their survival ground. You may have it....lol
Heard that the top floor units were not locked and some ppl had view them. Wonder it was true?
ha ha! you are right chee yong...
very interesting to note in this blog, there are people who criticize the Spring..some who claim their units are better.. but now, there is a new breed - Dumpsite lovers! :)
RRR ,
can u please comment something more sensible...
Hello Steve,
I did agree with you that The Spring is in good location & may be good quality ( Assuming this well-known developer is keeping the standard high as usual).
Well, to say that a property without any problem can only appear in your dream is not so accurate. I mean we are not talking about dream bungalow like Michael Jackson's Neverland or Sultan Brunei's palace which can only appear in our sweet dreams.
But, to choose a home without compromising the health aspect is the basics. Buying a home next to a Dumpsite and a huge sewage plant without knowing the long term negative consequences are just Stup***!
The imbalance of demand & supply of affordable homes in Penang island really drive many people go insane and to the extend of compromising health aspect. This is too much.
Hello Bamboo, do not laugh at other people's opinion. You are the one who is going to stay next to the dumpsite. You will understand when you move in.
Hello Chee Yong, may i say that let's stick to English in our Forum. Save your favourite local dialect to yourself.
Hello Ciplak, please do not manipulate Barrack Obama's quote to justify your own agenda. Barrack Obama is enchoing the CHANGE of American policy towards the benefits of mankind and world peace.
On the other hard, you are advocating the so called change of the Dumpsite for you & few residents benefits.
The dumpsite serves all the penagites of the Island. It does not give any problem to the penangites at ALL until you guys move in and talk about closing or moving the dumpsite. Move to where? Any dumpsite will pose problem to the people for sure, and that's why this dumpsite is located strategically in that site as it does not affect people in Georgetown, Bayan Lepas, etc.
The dumpsite serves the penangites well and just because The Spring residents who only RECENTLY move in and complain about it, the dumpsite has to be relocated to other people's neighbourhood, it is not right. The site is the most strategic site and the area should be reclaimed further so that the capacity can be expand for the next 30 years.
PE,
The Spring buyers did not asked to be in such situation. If given choice, no one will compromise health & safety but the supply of affordable homes in Penang island is really not enough to cater for the demand.
The Spring buyers already bought their home, period. We should not add salt to wound. The least we can do is pray that the negative effects of the dumpsite & sewage plant will not be significant.
The property price bubble inflated by extreme demand of young working class in Penang is worrying before this recession. Hopefully, the recession will make a correction to the property price of Penang Island making the property affordable and not eating up a big chuck of our monthly salary for the loan payment.
i realised that "regular" ppl like RRR posted alot on other blogpost too (try checking out BLVD and Summer Place postings)
as for those dumpsite "lovers". i didnt know that you're so passionate about the site.
when we (real buyers) bought The Spring, "you" (the naysayers) condemn the project high & low with long essays & numerous postings.
now when "we" wanted to initiate something, why are "you" being so emotional? why so damn KPC (in hokkien) in something which doesn't concern "you" at all? or "you're" inherently born with this KPC mentality?
"we've" bought the place. that's the end of it. whatever we do doesn't concern you at all.
just go back and "jaga tepi kain sendiri". nuff said.
ciplak_me,
They could be IJM's competitors.... LOL
Does anyone know why the OC is taking so long to approve ?.
I mean, the departments can't be that slow in approving things right? I called up IJM and they can't tell me the exact date. What's keeping the delay ?.
Other projects like harmony view which completed later than SPRING have gotten their OC few months back. Why is SPRING's so slow ?.
To All Springer:
May I know what is the issue THE SPRING holding the OC for so long? anyone can tell?
(Building and floor plan not fulfill spec?)
(Building struture got problem?)
(Dumpsite ?)
I'm Summer Place buyer, maybe this will happen to Summer Place as well?
Beside that, I strongly belif the dumpsite will remove, just a time being issue. But, the sewage plant will stay.
Hey Ciplak, the "kin Jio" said cannot post Hokkien. That bother the "kin Jio" a lot. LOL
Also, i think nobody is urging for moving the dumpsite to other ppl's neighbourhood coz we know the pain. Just wanted to see some better solution to deal with the wasteland. Unfortunately, this touches the dumpsite lovers nerve. Wonder whose the selfish person?
Lastly, is Stup*** = Stupids? Please clarify. LoL...my england not good enough, never knew this word can be used this way.
Thanks for the excitements.....haha.
By the way, the material price is dropping. My Kitchen quotation getting cheaper. Shall we keep on waiting till mid of the year?
Anyone interested in installing the grille and plaster ceilling? May be we can get better deal with "bulk purchase"
Captain,
Summer Place is free until VP. Why you bother? :P
Hi all Springster,
I too want to know what is keeping the VP being issue to us when we know that is has already been approved. After buying more than 300k for a house, we are still unable to view our unit.
Why does IJM keep postponing the date for us to receive our keys. It is so frustrating!
Are they protecting certain parties by delaying the issuance of VP/OC(eg: bulk buyers or investment buyers)?
The S&P is 3 years.
I have news that its not because of building itself. Its something to do with red tapes.
Dear Joanne,
Really SPRING already get VP?. I called up my sales person but the answer is not yet get anything. Where u get that info from ?. Who is your sales person who says so?. Maybe he/she have got more info than my sales person.
I really really really really want to see my actual unit. Anyone who managed to see their unit?. How did you do that?
Thanks alot.
Hi
I heard from someone during PISA fair, 1 of the possible reason of late VP is because Summer place is currently being launched. If The Spring VP is out, ppl will hv more choice of buying a completed Spring than the newly launched Summer Place. So to make sure SP sell well, 1 of the way is to delay the VP. thisi s what I heard but dont knwo how true it is ...
Funny reason to delay to VP. The "OC soon!!!" banner has been removed from the apartment, maybe too many buyers keep calling them, better remove the banner so that no one get blamed if delayed for another few months.
I think may be OC liao.
Any idea who is the right contact to get the exact answer? instead of calling up the sales person. It was so frustrated while listen to their feedback on OC with no prove & details.
Dear chee yong,
Which company are you going to ask to do your kitchen renovations ?
Thanks
i heard bulk buyers are still stuck here.... not able to sell it's speculative properties... is that true?
no lah mike... they are selling it like hotcakes lah on the internet...serious! why dont u go check it out!
Here's the IP address:
www.goscrewyourself.com/i_am2stuPid2ASKsuCH_questioNs/html.
anyone know when can we get OC?Ask IJM sales ppl but they dont want to commit any date and just ask me to wait their letter.HOW??
Dear Penang,
No point to ask the sales person anymore. Again they will give you an expected date evertime but you will disapointed when the commit time reach..
Ya, I agreed. The sales person will always provide some expected date for VP/OC to appease the owner frustration.
Dear Chin Eng,
Are you sure the VP has been approved? If yes, why the sales person seem like no idea on the status.
Just pray, nothing the owners can do when come to OC. Good luck.
It’s funny blog. I am return to this blog again. As learn from my mistake and appreciate kind people who explain to me and also appreciate those people like to name other people as ‘low mentality‘ OR ‘low ability’ but we will soon stay in the same place. LOL….
Estimate O.C obtains should fall in JUNE 2009. Due to the lack documents that previously submitted by IJM’s engineers and changing government of penang, is one of the reason that caused the spring O.C delayed till now. What should we do at this moment? Sit, relax and pray for this coming meeting of IJM with the related govt. department and hopefully everything is clear without mistake. If the meeting passes through this time, the earliest to obtain the O.C is mid of MAY or else JUNE. But if the meeting held in APRIL fails, we have to wait the next meeting which only held once per month. ALL THE BEST ya..
Last, what do you expected The Spring price to be? I don’t want to mention the other issue. Just take on “Greedy” to comment. Bulk buyer are stuck is because of their greedy. For those bulk buyers who bought at RM250K, can sell at RM280K. Why want to raise the price for RM 300k and above? Some more, Summer Place is launching with the ‘better price’ and so called a ‘same same’ location with better environment and facility than THE SPRING….
Here is “DUMMY” calculation on the spring:
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Property Value - $250,000.00
Down Payment - $50,000.00
Loan amount - $200,000.00
Annual interest rate - 4.8%
Loan period in years - 30
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SOLD at the price of $280,000.00 IF THE O.C obtained by JUNE 2009
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SOLD @ $280,000.00 (dummy suggest the PRICE)
Penalty - $ 6,000 (assume 3%)
MRTA - $ 3,000 (assume 50% of the loan period)
9 months installment - $ 9,443.98
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Total Capital: $68,443.98 (money that you really paid for your property)
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Estimate Profit in Return: $13,836.24
% Return: 20.22 within 1 YEAR
Start comment if you wish… (not offense anyone but to make fun in your or my life)
hi,
i have been getting the same response from the IJM salesperson. the guy keep telling me that OC is in the process. however he refuses to commit on a date.
Their sales people inform my friend that VP already got. Now only waiting for OC.
I am also wondering why with the VP we can't get our keys....
it's difficult for ijm sales person to commit a date, because it's something beyond their control.
Hi Chin End,Can you advise who is the sales people inform your friend??I might want to check with him/her..
I just contacted my salesperson nely, she said the state meeting is today, we can get the outcome by this week. So just wait.............
I've also contact my salesperson (Nelly) inform me a same answer from Basheer...Hope we will get the answer by this week..Cheers...
Felt disapointed to IJM. I believed most of us bought The Spring since May 2008. However, we can't even see our own house as of now, which is almost 1 year...haizzzzz...
Let's give them 1 more week. After that we need to go to their office collectively to voice our displeasure. How can we be treated this way ?. We waited in MAY at 2.00am to buy. Now why do we have to wait somemore ????!!!!...
Anyway, we have waited for 1 year now.....
1 year is very short relatively on properties purchase. Typically 2.5 to 3 years after SAP for new property.
Maybe because IJM price is higher and buyer thought that its ok since its almost finish building and expected to get keys earlier this year. So the expectation is different compare to other projects.
Dear BK,
1 year is very short for a complete project/building? Even we are still unable to see our actual unit as at today.
We can't be blame for being impatient with IJM, becuase we are given the run around everytime we enquire about the VP/OC. From the moment we paid the 20k depasit we were told that we can get the OC lastest Nov 2008. Since then we have been disappointed once too many times.
I am sure quite a few of us buyers have sold existing house or terminate rental to coincide with the date given to us in the first place. Now we are left hanging in the air for them to finalise everything.
They made the commitment to us and now we are paying for their imcompetence! It is too much to ask for a house buyer to view his/her actual plan of unit bought??
Sally, I fully agree with you. One reason I bought a unit is because I was told that OC will be in Dec or before CNY. I'm can only get married when the house is ready so I can move in to a new house immediately. NOW, I can't even plan for my wedding because they do not know the date of the OC.
What am I suppsoe to do now ?
Dear Loo,
I sympathise for you and your future bride! what a lousy dent in your plans for a blissfull marriage. We have bought a unit at the spring period. It not like we bought an item at the sundry shop. There is no turning back. Even the disadvantage of the dumpsite and the sewage plant is secondary now.
All we are asking is to be able to move into our unit bought with our hard earned money.
Can you IJM guys get a move on it and work your hardest to deliver what you preach!
Really really lousy. I understand the OC is not within their power but at least they could let us view our unit so that we may make some plans. We could then take some measurements and scout around to identify what furniture that could fit and how to design our house. Accessing the unit should be within their authority right ?. Well, they could at the very least let us arrange with their sales person to take us there in groups. We paid so much already... All we are asking is to get OC soon or at least view our unit.
Since you all have waited more then a year why not wait a little bit longer.
OC is not within their power. I agreed with that but at least they must provide some update what is going on now rather than feedback on the rubbish target date to obtain the OC.
IJM had promised, November 2008 for OC when i bought the unit. The sales man kept saying that they have finished it and have a minor touchup to do on the landscape and fittings. The salesperson kept saying that Spring is almost complete unit when i bought it. For units that has not been built, 2-3 years is reasonable. But for unit that is already standing, and with only OC in the middle, 2-3 years does not sound right. If i had known the unit would be available much much later, i would have reconsidered to buy it. I would not think abt queuing up so early there. IJM should think about the buyers. IJM cant keep saying that the ball in not in their court, they have gone thru the OC process like gazillion times. They shud know how does an OC process work, how long it takes, how does it affect the buyers if they screw up. For them to come back and say that the government is holding them up does not hold water. IJM is a big corporation, not a startup from yesterday. if they have some serious problem, then tell us the real situation, not tell some bull shit. How do i plan when to move out from my rented apmt? Do i go ahead and sign the rental contact for 1 more year or can i get the keys by this year? IJM sucks!
does anyone know when their meeting with the government will be held ?. tomorrow is wednesday already. Can we get the OC date this friday ?.
I agreed with Wa. How come we as a owner is not allow to view our own unit? WHY? At least if they let us view then we can plan for reno, furniture and etc..But now, we are just sitting and waiting...
I wonder where you guys took those house interior photos? Any show house available??
Hi Hanson,
You should ask the one who posted the photo. As we known, we are unable to view our unit as of now.
Again the same result from Ong this afternoon, May will get OC :-(
I think something is terribly wrong with The Spring. Mind you that we have a new legistrative that so long as the professional engineer ,architect or the qualified submitting person submit all the relevant documents, OC will be as simple as automatic.
Gone are the days whereby the local government officer will take his time to come & inspect, and will have a "say" whether to delay or expedite your OC.
Of Course, the submitting person will put his head to the chopping board if he deliberately submit wrong information with the intention of cheating for the sake of gettting the OC fast. His professional licence could be revoked and his rice bowl will be broken. Therefore, we give the benefit of doubt to the professionals that they will not risk anything to jeopardise their professions.
The so called approval by the local government is actually academic and formality. This new system is introduced by the previous local & housing Minister, Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting. Good job.
So, the question is, do you think a reputable company who build houses like brushing our teeth every morning could have miss certain documents, forgot to fill-up certain details, or simply because they are not so well-versed with the submission? Or something else
The developer should be frank and open to the buyers. What happen? Why it takes so long? All these answers are very important to avoid unnecessary speculation.
Dear Yes,
I fully support your point. The sales person should have better picture what is going on. However, they refuse to open & frank to the buyers. What they are doing just keep on providing all unreasonable excuse & pull the ball to council which caused the VP/OC delaying.
Many of us bought a unit are because we have been told by the sales person that OC will be in Nov 08 or before CNY. However, the actual situation is totally different. May be this is one of their marketing strategy to draw the sales.
This is some experiences we had gained from this developer. Moving forwards, we have seriously to reconsider again all their projects.
someone told me that actually after the building is done, it need to put there for a certain of period to make sure the building is 'strong' enough and not 'runtuh'. Normally is 6 months count from IJM start apply OC from government.
This is only the way government can make sure the building is safe and they also cannot simply put people inside to take the risk. please correct me if i am wrong.
i guess IJM start apply OC last december and we will only get OC in May.
Dear Chia and Dear Yes,
Look on the bright side. The delay in OC might be because they will be installing special Italian Marble Tiles imported from PCK in all units. Moreover, high quality stainless steel doors will also be installed. The redesigning of award winning toilets are still being design by Chu Beng. All these are done FOC. This is just a small gesture to appreciate all buyers and their supporters.
Dear Wa,
From your sarcastic remarks, i can understand your frustration. So are most of us especially those whose time is of the essence, we are really in a hurry to move in.
With 2 old folks, one partially handicap, and the existing house sold what to do when time to hand over to new buyer at end april.
I am at wit's end, hopefully my new buyer will let me rent his unit temp until spring is ready for us to move in.
Damn nuisance though! IJM have certainly made life unpleasent for us who have supported his projects all this years! My parents stayed at Tmn seri damai,built by ijm, my brother bought bayswater, built by ijm, i used to have a landed property in b'worth built by ijm and now 2 units in spring.
what is the actual situation,nobody seem to know and ijm is not forthcoming and open with us. We are at their mercy and there is nothing we can do but wait.
Anyone any idea on how to get real answers or ways to get to bottom of this?
guys, just to share a little bit here.
when i was doing my home loan with the bank, an officer told me that the OC issue with the Spring was an isolated incident. She did not tell me the details but i guess it could be either IJM did something out of the plan or it could be political. The thing is that it is already being resolved and its really isolated, meaning that it will unlikely happen to other projects.
Hope you guys get the OC soon and manage to resolve the rubbish burning issue. It really should be moved.
I think IJM dont want to release OC becoz they are worry about Summer place, if the potential buyer know about any defect in Spring they will not buy Summer Place.
To the springer, no offense but i really do hope the rubbish burning issue can be solved ASAP!
Wish you guys obtain OC very very soon.
BTW, Andrea, how you manage to get the photoshooting for Type B unit? Can you please let me know? Thx
hi, i did not know of this group till recently when i heard from a friend. I am not sure if any of you have approached IJM or the newspapers as a group.
but i think we should approach IJM as a group and demand from them the correct answer. As long as we do it individually, they can keep giving us different stories. The IJM salesman can tell us all the stories they want because they are not paying from their pocket. at the end of the day, we are affected. there are a lot of stories popping up lately and i dont care whatever reason that IJM has. IJM needs to be very direct and open about this matter. Why are they running around beating around the bush. the delay is very frustrating and expensive for me.
IJM sucks!
Yes, I agree with you - islander.
It make my MACBOOK AIR fly away... (plan to rent out at RM 1.1K-1.3K). expected OC obtain at NOV 08. But until today, it's already 5 months (6th is camming)...
This may sound silly but I wonder...can a completed building never gets its OC? or is it just a matter or time?
To Lee
Can, comercial buildings in M'sia espeacially factory and squarter dun have OC. Its completed building without OC.
disappointed in IJM... ppl in summer place forum are starting to complain as well....
Hi Islander,
How do we approach IJM? Would you please share with us? Do anyone have better idea so we all can co-operate in order to get our OC. Such a long period for us to waiting the OC without getting any update as of now.
Last week when I call up Jacky, he said the wednesday meeting has been cancelled. The meeting is postpone to this week. However, I totally do not want to check the update anymore. They can't be trusted, we as a owner better fight for our own if anyone of us know what is the good solution?
hi mr.lee,
i called Mr. Jeff Ooi this morning.
he mentioned the whole problem in Spring is unique as it is under state secretary, not under the housing board. the state secretary has retired and the new one just got appointed.
the meeting should take place soon and the vp should be after the meeting.
YB jeff also mentioned that IJM has submitted all the paper works but with the transition of the state secretary, the meeting got delayed.
hopefully the new state secretary would be able to convene the meeting fast and solve our problems.
I think Jeff Ooi is MP. Who is the state assemblyman for this area? I think we have to talk to the right person.
Just curious what Jeff Ooi said is true or not, or just like all politician, finding excuses or playing "tai chi".
Correct me if I am wrong, VP should be issued by the architech, the issuance of VP is based on the Form E chop/acknowledge received by the government department. If IJM has submitted the Form E, together with all other department's approval, VP should not be an issue. Only OC need the building department inspection.
If not mistaken, last month when our neighbour met Jeff Ooi and IJM engineer in Komtar, they said signed already, what is the document signed? Form E, or amended building plan? If Form E, VP should be issued, although the developer has the right to delay the issuance of VP. The building plan approved, they should be able to submit the form E to apply for OC.
Can somebody tell me what happen actually.
Let us wait for this week. If the respond still the same after their meeting, I think we might need to work together to approach IJM for better understand on the issue.
Nowadays, most of the IJM projects have 0% loan interest until VP/OC. But, we (spring owner) have to bear the loan interest until VP/OC approved.
As mentioned by Yes, if the issue was caused by their professional. They should responsible for it & not just pulling the ball around.
We have been cheated by their marketing strategy initially & it had caused us high lost in term of energy, time & expenses.
With the "fantastic" excuses, responds & feedbacks from their sales person. We might be able to judge how was their professional standard as a big firm & reputable developer.
Pls share with me if you have better idea.
JUST called nelly, the sales person.SHE SAID the meeting with the state will held this week. So wait laaaaaaaaa.
Penang Island Municipal Council president Datuk Zainal Rahim Seman has been appointed Penang State Secretary on 17 April 09.
So hope that he can spend some time to look into our application.
today is wednesday already. what day is the meeting ? we should know the result by friday right? will the answer be "oh... meeting postpone again" ?
Already email to Datuk Zainal, Penang State Secretary regarding the OC issue this morning. He replied back at 1.27 p.m. saying that he will look urgently to this matter. ( very fast respond from Datuk Zainal)
Please email as many as to Datuk Zainal. Then he will know exactly what is going on regarding the oc issue.
zainalrahim@penang.gov.my
Just hope for the best. Get things sign quickly, good to developer, the local government and to us, the future residents of The Spring.
Hi Basheer, Is it Form E need to be signed by Datuk Zainal or OC?
If OC, then The Spring get clearance from Building Department already?
Hi Steve, Datuk Zainal did not mention anything to me. If he email me anything regarding the OC I will let you know.
thanks basheer!
Thanks Basheer
hi,
i have written to Datuk Zainal Rahim yesterday. No replies yet. however, hope that he understands how much we need the VP and OC.
when is the meeting between IJM and with pg state this week?Any idea?
The meeting is today. I checked with the sales person nelly.
Another few more months to decide? Any buyer here attended today meeting? It is sad if only IJM and state government meet.
just called my sale person and was told that the meeting is postponed (again and again) to no when. I share the same frustration as you all. I'm not sure if Datuk Zainal is the right person to talk to, if yes, we certainly need to raise our upmost concern to him. The efficiency of both ijm and the authority is really in doubt.
dear all concern buyer,
Just check with IJM officer, the meeting for the spring OC has been cancelled n reschedule to early May. Really disappointed!. IJM should have put in more effort to ensure no more postpone of OC. Very bad as a reputable and established property developer. They should be more committed & efficient to resolve this matter.
Steve,
Datuk Zainal is the current MPPP chief? And he has just been elected as State Secretary on Apr17?? How can a Municipal Council head hold 2 entirely different posts simultaneously?
Let me get this straight..we're trying to get Jelutong MP Jeff Ooi (who has gone dormant BTW) to help fight the dumpsite relocation - UNDER MPPP purview..and now we're trying to get the MPPP CHIEF (who happens to be made State Sec) to plead for our OC/VP??
Walao! Isnt this a circular shooting range effort? Now we have someone who has absolute power over our OC & dumpsite at his pleasure & discretion?
I think we better prepare ourselves to bombard CM Lim Guan Eng & YB Chow Kon Yeow to salvage any hope of rescuing our hopeless case..
Any suggestions on what we must do ?. I am really lost. Dunno want to do now.
The question is, how come other projects in Penang can easily get OC, why THE SPRING can't get OC? I really don't get it.
hi,
Does anyone have Datuk Zainal's phone number? i did not get any response on the email, so i thought it will be better to call him.
Dear Spring Owners,
Are we able to form a group to approach YB Lim Guan Eng, Jeff Ooi & Datuk Zainal by our own instead of depending to suck & lousy developer (IJM)? Anyone have any idea how we can do that ASAP?
I have totally frustrating to IJM commiment of VP/OC. We just like their play toys. I believe they totally not put in efford to pull for OC approval.
Another issue is we have to request IJM to refund our loan interest if possible since we had paid our loan without getting our key & OC for long period.
I am the first time buyer to this developer. They provide major negative point to me. Thus, i am sure that this is the 1st & the last time to purchase IJM properties. Too irresponsibility & totally none professional at all although it was big developer with wide reputation.
Pls include me if you all have any planning to approach for our OC. Thanks.
Hi Justin,
I agree with you. The 'F******' IJM developer make my MACBOOK AIR fly away. If you or anyone have an idea to approach OC issue. COUNT ME in.
Gosh...I'm totally agreed with Justin.
Hi Wei,
Any idea how the spring owners can meet up with MP Jeff Ooi/ CM Lim Guan Eng/ YB Chow Kon Yeow? We really need their help as IJM keep on delaying the OC. Too many excuses given and they might talk different story when we call them up. It is the time for us to gather together and fight for the OC our own since IJM never concern about us.
How long we bought this property??? --- is May'08. Now May'09 coming soon, we din heard anything from IJM. I really don't understand what is the purpose of the meeting? Everytime end up nothing.
I still remember that I call up the sales person last wednesday, he said meeting has been postponed to this week. But now according to Krychek&Michael, again the same excuse, postpone to May. The same thing happening since Dec'08, i really disapointed such service given to us after we spend rm200K++ to purchase the condo.
I really can't imagine what is the excuse again if May still can't get OC..really stupid.
Hi Islander,
Do you think is possible to call Datuk Zainal? Seems like quite difficult.
I wonder where is all the spring owner who previosuly meet up with MP Jeff Ooi in Komtar. Mayb they can help to advise the contact or the right person as until now still din hear anything about VP/OC.
Hi Islander,
By refering to your post to me on 20-Apr, I heard VP should be after the meeting many times from sales person also. The problem now is the meeting has been cancel twice since last week and now reschedule to May again. How many times should we trust on them and actually hopeless now.
I understand that IJM had submitted all paper works. This is what I heard since CNY if im not mistaken. If they had provided everything, then the problem now is state secretary? But people already email Datuk Zainal and answer given is will look into it urgently. So im curious what is the problem now??
Duno who can answer our questions.
Dear all,
Just communicated with one of Springers who met Jeff last month. Apparently, the meeting was held to discuss the dumpsite and not the OC. The meeting was very positive but apparently, things changed after the 3-by elections. Jeff seems to be no longer interested in the dumpsite issue. he claimed that too many ppl are bugging him with the OC problem and thats not his job so apparently he has given up on the dumpsite issue too.
Since our Jelutong MP is of not much help, maybe you guys can group up to meet the MPPP Head in Komtar direct.
put your posting on the rocket website lah....
Hi wei,
Datuk Zainal appointment as state secretary, so the MPPP municipal council head position is left empty now, DAP has yet to figure out who to be appointed, either is from their party, or from the public servant. Either way, the OC process will be draged longer.
Dear all frustrated purchaser,
Sorry in advance, but is my personal feeling:
1. I don't think we can blame the developer as there is a 36 mths period for them from S&P date, assumed they already submit all documents and get clearance from all relevant (14, if not mistaken) department. The ball/responsibility is under the local council now. As I said before, the developer also hope the OC process is smooth, so that they has less trouble, who want to create problem for themselve anyway?
2. Once the local council received such doc/form E, within certain period, they have to come out with decision, either OC or reject, with valid reason. By reading the rating of our MPPP (only 3 star) compare to other state, like MPPJ, DBKL (has 5 star), even MPSP score higher than MPPP, u would know their standard. (rating is from KPKT)
3. And I am not very please with DAP, especially when they received such rating, they blame this to previous government, now MPPP is thier baby, please give some good suggestion to improve, no, suggestion is not enough, action(that why they called DAP), to improve our MPPP.
compalin, complain and complain, but when IJM launching new project, u will saw a group of "stupid " in frount of IJM office to purchase a very expensive property compare to other developer which just a small unit condo, i think IJM after Bayswater will increase all the other project price, The Spring and Summer Place should lauching few years ago but they keeping delay until now only launching and somemore the price is higher than Bayswater and Alpine Tower even the sq.ft is smaller.
i have one idea how about we approached opposition help in penang maybe gerakan or umno ask them to make noise and maybe publish in newspaper cause they like all this publicity anyway there are the opposition in penang.
anybody got connection with gerakan or umno here.
we saw many complaint in tv3 on delayed projects rigt.
my tiny idea.......
Dear Spring onwers,
I have communicate with IJM engineer who coordinate OC for our Spring. He had committed that our VP will be done in 1 week of May 09. I am not sure how true is that.
This is his email add yeohkn@ijm.com (HP# 012-4653893). Anythings want to know, pls contact him.
Also, Mr Toh is IJM regional manager according to my sales person. Here is his email add tohcl@ijm.com. We may raise our feedback to him.
If the management is professional enough. They must do something which can really appease our frustration after received our feedback. Otherwise, they are under-performer from professional standard.
Hope this help.
I dun think any television station will bother, after all, is still under the 36 mths period.
Its up to the local government, I thought after changing government will be better, apparantly is not, getting worse, everyday only see news/publisity on media. Nowreading local news, like reading "dunia hiburan", "channel V" or "MTV", Like movie star ......
Remind me of Taiwan Chen Sui Bian, I am not saying that they are corrupted or no good, but the tactics they use for the publisity definitely copy Chen's stlye, blaming previous govern this & that, every day talk this talk that. End up too much time spend on blaming & arguing, then whose has enough time to run the government?
Meeting postponed again as predicted. Now better reduce my dissappointment by wishing OC in December 09.
You are wrong BK. Wishing OC is 2010 will be better. :-)
By the way, could we ask IJM to repaint the whole building ?. It is getting blacker and blacker by the days...
Spring owners,
I think most of you here have over exagerated. This project is not abandon, and legally still haven't reached the deadline IJM must handover the apartment to all of you, yet all of you act like both IJM or Govt owe you big time. Blaming MP, Chief Minister, MPPP, State Secretary and etc. If all of you are not prepare to accept the max. period of 3 years handover from S&P date, then why all of you signed the S&P in the first place. and only start complaint now.
No one dispute you as the owner, the eagerness to move in yr new home but pls think logically and rationally.
dear mutiara,
It is always been easier to post any comment as you like. Let me ask u a question, if u r caught in a dilemma where your rented house has expired, your budget r tight, your income has reduced due to unforseen economical slow down, your children fees r due....bla bla. The first thing u will do is to see what can be saved n what expenses can b reduced. Are u aware that the property has been long completed, do u know that IJM representative has promised us early handover before even we signed the SPA. We all r not stupid, we know exactly what is stated in the SPA. To me, the delay of OC is purely due to human error and lack of commitment & responsibility, which they(IJM&MPPP...) r accountable to it. Moreover, they have been employed & highly paid to carry out their task. please dont teach us how to think rationally & logically if u r not in our shoe. If we dont push them , when do you think we can get our OC ????
Some people can simply comment without thinking of overall feeling.
Mutiara,
If you are not urgently waiting for the OC then please keep quiet and don't talking nonsense here. If you are Spring buyer, I am sure you wont stand at IJM side???? Are you?? We pushing the OC as we have our own reason behind. Dont even teach us how to do or what should we treat IJM/Govt.
Because of such person, you can't improve. Blindly follow your own theory and dare not to voice out. Please think about that. We have right to fight our own rather than depends on those irresponsible developer(IJM). Is their fault to appoint such engineer. Hence, they need to responsible on that AND resolve the issue ASAP. It is not fair to us.
I think Mutiara is from IJM ppl...that why he/she can give a such comment.
OL,
I think you've already mentioned the key statement here, i.e. "...do u know that IJM representative has promised us early handover before even we signed the SPA..."
Then, the rootcause here is the IJM rep who promised YOU the early handover though SAP stated otherwise...then, should go after that IJM rep, why drag the authorities and others, u can even try to take legal action against IJM rep or company for his/her empty promise. Otherwise, who do you think should be the one to blame, when yourself also willing to take their verbal as good. You're buying a property, not sundries goods, believe one won't just rely on verbal promise or sales talk to purchase the property, right?
Of course, I'm fully symphatize with your predicament and the dilemma facing, i.e. family expenses, rental and etc... This is no doubt a hardship for house buyer. Believe it or not, am also in the same situation when purchase a property at seberang couple of years ago but those who pointing finger at almost everyone except yourself, don't you think part of the blame should be pointed at yr ownself too, for relying on IJM sales talk to make the decision to purchase that cause the current hardship.
But strangely, even after some of you realize the empty promise by IJM before SAP signing, but still continue to keep high hope time after time, the info received by IJM that OC will be obtained. And the higher expectation, higher frustration you're going to get. Of course I've no right at all to teach you what you should think but at the end the continue high hope to get OC soon seems to get over some buyers here and continue to build up their frustrations. Like some have expressed, "fed up".
I'm not here to start a verbal war with anyone but just voice out my opinion.
Just some info to share, newspaper (kwong Wah) yesterday:
Mr. Tan was appointed as "temporary" MPPP head.....
The funny things is, 16 Feb 09, our original MPPP head, Datuk Zainal was sent to KL for training (1 mth), so his post/job/work temporary under our previous state secretary, but our state secretary was due to retire in March wor, so our MPPP dun't have Head to sign off the things (I guess). Then after Datuk Zainal came back from training, he is directly appointed as state secretary pula, what a bad arrangement.
Just to share some news......
Mutiara,
Most of the spring buyers were informed by IJM saying that OC will be obtained very soon before place any unit booking during soft launching (even when the time we signed SPA). When the time had come, we have been given lots of excuse which caused the OC delaying. It was not a good feeling for us as buyer who paid & born expenses incurred but still unable to fully own our unit.
Yes, you are right to say that the root cause is from IJM rep. We have been direct the issue to IJM sales & management which they should responsible for their empty promise, human error & internal management dilemma that caused the issue happen. I am not sure what you meant by “Why drag the authorities & others”? OC is not approved by IJM itself. Each party has linking in order to get everything done. Therefore, there are related & we are not simply point the finger to non related party in effort to get our issue solved.
From your statement, you seem like expert in this area. Hence, would you pls share with us your thought how to overcome this issue? How can we take legal action against IJM rep/ company for their empty promise? Why we can’t drag the issue to all related parties?
For those who are IJM-friendly, there used to be a big "OC soon!" banner hanged on this apartment, everyone drove long the Jelutung highway can see it. 3 years is not "soon" leh.
Dear Steve,
I am confused. If no one in MPPP is available to approve OC, then how come other projects in Penang can still get their OC ?. Who sign then? If someone can sign for them, why not for us? Pls share. Thanks.
Dear Mutiara,
I think you do not know what we r talking about here. We r refering to accountability which is the basic principle not only practice by all company but also to our current state goverment. pls check the meaning of "CAT". Penang people has voted for change and they have promised to deliver "CAT". Do you how long The Spring has been completed.?? I guess you must be sleeping. The expected VP/OC has been more than 1/2 year liow. Anyway, We dont need your sympathy here, we just need you to keep your mouth shut because we know that you are a person never keep to your promised.
Dear Wa,
I dun't know who is the one who suppose to sign off our OC now. My guess that no one sign the thing were based on response/reply by our Jeff Ooi, please refer post by Islander 20 April 2009 3.54pm.
What I want to know is when can get OC, getting marry this year, afraid that not enough time to prepare, so I do some research by asking my achitect and structural engineer friend about all general regulation and procedure, & reading the HDA & CCC system.
Dear Steve, I am also in the same situation as you. I can't make any plans for my wedding be cause dunno when can get OC. One of the reason I bought SPRING because it is near completion and sales person told me CAN get OC before CNY2009.
If I know then that can't get OC so soon, I would have reconsider buying SPRING...
"...we just need you to keep your mouth shut..."
This statement reflect the level of mentality of a person and wondering one really know why blog exists in the first place. To shut people up when different opinion occur?
Dear All Spring owners,
Mutiara is trying to make noise in this blog? I thought someone said "do not want to start a verbal war with anyone"???? In fact you are this kind of person. What is your intention? People ask you shut up because you are not stand at purchaser point of view. Please don't comment anymore since nobody welcome you.
Dear Steve and Loo Soon Huat,
Hope we wont get stuck in our plan because of THEM. Empty promise is their marketing tactics to attrack buyer. Anyway, this is a good experience and we should share around with our relatives, friends, colleagues and etc. Dont even let them be the next victims.
hi justin,
i am with you on that one. We definitely need to meet up with the person instead of hearing the news from the IJM guys. i will send Datuk Zainal an email today to seek an appointment to meet him. It would be good if a lot of us email him. Maybe he will reply to one of us.
Hey, If there is a meeting, do post it up here. I also want to attend. The more the better.
Mutiara,
It is good to keep your mouth shut if you do not intend to help. Your mentality is even lower if you only know how to "talk" and do nothing. If you are from IJM, just say yes and do it. I have just emailed & spoken to the relevant parties to seek for their assistance on this matter. To all spring owners, we have to be together in order stay strong.
I have sent an email to Datuk Zainal & pending his reply. Also, I called up Mr Toh (IJM regional manager) twice. But the customer service said he is in the meeting.
May be you guys can try ring him up to schedule a meeting. Thus, we may have clear discussion with IJM top management towards our issue.
hi,
i received a reply from Datuk Zainal just now.
attached the email content below,
"
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Zainal
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Wait and see how efficient Datuk Zainal is.
Any news abt our The Spring OC?
I checked with my sales person nelly, she said all building inspection approved.The state meeting postponed again to next month.
Now the issue is why the state keep on postpon the meeting
does anyone happen to have the master plan for this area?
Basheer,
Can you trust your sales person?. Maybe they are lying..
I also think she is lying
Guys,
No use expressing dissapointments while being delayed over and over again. Our "CAT" state government is now pre-occupied with the Penanti by-election again so I dont think they will respond to our calls, emails or letters.
Suggest lets all meet up to brainstorm on what is the best step going forward. Ciplak and a couple of us managed to meet up last month over the dumpsite. I am sure we can do the same for this issue. Lets strike while the iron is hot and owner sentiments is at its peak. Maybe we can march straight up to Datuk Zainal's office in Komtar too :)
Need someone to initiate this effort cos i am based in KL. Will surely attend if the timing is right.
I just read some news from The Star. I don't think the goverment plan for relocating the dumpsite...
Wednesday April 29, 2009
Fee for dumping
"THE public can now dispose of their garbage at the Jelutong dumpsite in George Town from May 4 but they have to fork out some money.
According to a statement from the Penang Municipal Council, the fee is RM10 per day or RM80 per month on each vehicle or transporter.
They have to fill up a form and pay up the money a day before making the trip to the dumpsite."
Hi all,
Can i know how ijm locate the parking for residence?
Dear pang,
If im not mistaken, IJM has allocated the car park based on the selling price. Meaning , expensive unit will get better lot. I dont think this is fair because if they are practicing this method, they should have package it with the unit before open for sale. No point hightlight to IJM because this are sales strategies.
So meaning they can know the carpark location when they collect their key?
Not fair lor.. So if buyer bought the expensive unit will get the high floor? So for the cheapest price (not really cheap)will get the lowers parking bay?
Yes, check your SPA, Your car park lot is stated in sixth schedule under accessory parcel. You can also look at the surface plan in your SPA to see the actual location.
oic... I want to check b4 make discission for buying unit..
TQ so much OL for your kindness helping.
My parking lots are located at 6th floor of the parking building, doesnt mean i own one expensive unit right?
Another thing i notice there is no elevator in the SPA under accessory parcel plan, i'm not sure if we have to 'naik tangga & turun tangga' each time..
Is there a link directly from the parking floor to each residence floor level? I just curious to know..
Any answer or news abt our OC?
Dear All,
We will get our VP & OC soon. I have received reply from Mr Toh. Here is his replied:-
"First of all, thank you for your feedback.
We apologize for the long delay and honestly, we have got it sorted out just two days ago. We will be having a meeting with the SUK tomorrow afternoon to tidy up all loose ends and will be sending out Vacant Possession letter to purchasers next Monday, and you should expect the OC letter the following week.
Once again, sorry for the inconvenience caused and hope to see you at our coming event at The Spring soon.
regards,
Toh
hopefully we get the letter by next week
HOPE .. the greatest word which keeps the world n living creatures alive :)
Who is Mr Toh ? Is his source reliable? I have been disappointed one too many times....
Thanks
Hi Wa,Mr Toh is IJM Regional Manager.You might want to call him to confirm.
Mr Toh is IJM northern Region General Manager. He is incharge of IJM Northern Region's Property division.
If this was his reply, I'll said that its 100% realiable.
Thanks Justin for your great effort to call up and email Mr Toh. Otherwise we will not know the latest good news. Hopefully we will get the letter as promised. Do appreciate anyone update if you receive the letter 1st :D
Again thanks for Justin and Mr Toh.
great news...thanks guys.
I hope to get my unit for my birthday soon :) I expect to receive letter from IJM somewhere mid May'09. That's a great birthday gift to myself lah..
Again HOPE is the magical word that keeps the world and things around us alive :)
HI Fisol,
if your obtained loan for the purchase of the house, the keys only can handed over upon receipts of full payment of any outstanding billings or/and late payment interest, in any. Normally, bank will fully utilise the 14 days credit terms given by the developer/under the Housing development Act.
For cash buyer, u can always bring your bankers draft/cash to developer office, upon clearance, they'll able to give u keys.
I.e., if the VP is next week, say 4 May, please add 14 days to the date, before you actually getting the keys.
Fisol,
... and happy birthday
Thanks.. really look forward to getting my Spring unit :)
hi guy..lets keep our finger's cross!
Happy Birthday Fisol!
Congratulation for The Spring buyers!
It is great to hear that you guys can obtain a OC after a week of VP obtained. Usually as I know, OC will be obtained after a few months of VP.
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Just now call IJM. ask about the vp. the sales person said the vp not yet.
ai ya.... kena tipu again. The question is, why Penang Times Square can get OC but not us ?. WHY ??? SPRING complete before Times Square but Times Square get OC first. SIGHHHHh.....
Justin just bluff us. His comment can't be trusted
Dear winner 99,
Justin is right... i have emailed Mr toh too, i got the same reply i guess they also try their best but we all dont what actually happen. Hope that IJM can come out and clarify this issue or Maybe u can tell us the truth.
can anyone give me MR. Toh email. tq
tohcl@ijm.com = Mr. Toh's email address
hi, i called Mr.Toh an hour ago. He confirmed that we will be getting the VP this week. You can check with IJM office again.
Winner 99 should check with the respective party before pointed people. You didn't work hard yourself to resolve the problem but blaming other people?
I managed to talk with Mr Toh just now. He just came back from meeting in Komtar. As per his confirmation, everything has been resolved and they are preparing the letters for VP. Once it is available, IJM will send out the letter by badge so some might be get it by next week.
For those who wan to confirm, please call up or email Mr Toh. As what I had written here is from Mr Toh. How true is this? I cant confirm.
Hi Islander/Justin/Michael,
We are getting the same response from Mr Toh. Hope we will get the VP by this week and OC next week :D
THANKS ALL. HOPEFULLY SEE YOU ALL IN SPRING SOON
When can we visit the house. after oc or after vp.
Dear All Spring Owners,
I just received reply from Mr. Toh. Here is his replied:-
From: tohcl@ijm.com [mailto:tohcl@ijm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:15 PM
To: Andrea Chee
Subject: Re: The Spring Condominium
Hi Andrea,
We had a meeting with Dato' SUK and JPBD Senior Officer this morning and all issues have been sorted out. We will be informing you about the VP/OC by early next week.
For the shaded carpark and planter box along the fencing, we shall start the construction works upon issuance of OC.
Thanks and regards,
Toh
Hi Andrea,
Thanks for the updates. :)
Hi Zul,
You can visit your house upon getting your VP. You can even bring yoru kitchen ID to measure your kitchen.
Hi Hanson,
Sorry for late reply. Refer to your post on APril 17, I got the Type B showroom photos from the old IJM showroom. IJM had a showroom after The Spring presales at the old office. This are the samples I managed to snap during the show room launched.
I get replied from Mr Toh as this:
Dear En Basheer,
We had a meeting with Dato' SUK and JPBD Senior Officer this morning and all issues have been sorted out. We will be informing you about the VP/OC by early next week.
Sorry for the delay and hope to see you at the upcoming fuction at The Spring.
Thanks and regards,
Toh
thanks Andrea
i got one fresh news. i don't know its a good news or bad news. the federal goverment will build new concept disposing method for the landfill at the garbage area. which mean the bad news they won't move the location of the garbage collection centre the good news is it will be cleaner and better than now.
Dear All Spring Owners,
For those who plans to do plaster ceiling, I suggest that you pay a visit to The Proplaster (Pg) Sdn Bhd which is located at 161, Jalan Sungai Pinang, 10150 Penang. Contact number is 04-282 2091.
I felt that the price is reasonable and the have a good workmanship.
hi guys,
Get to know from my IJM friend, the meeting postpone again to next week....so, have to wait "again"....
Alex
The regional manager MR Toh already email us saying that they already have the meeting with SUK
I see some disconnection between IJM sales person and their top management, Mr.Toh. As you guys have already got the confirmation email from Mr. Toh stated that everything has sorted out, VP will be sent out next week bla bla bla..and today I called the sales person Alysa Ong, "stilld dunno yet, meeting has been postponed", and I told her according to Mr.Toh everything has sorted out but according to Alysa you'll only get the VP after the meeting is held (if this is the right statement and meeting is postponed until no when, how possible we get the VP next week?) I'm confused. Can Basheer or someone contacted Mr.Toh before asking him what is the right procedure to get the VP? This is darn frustrating.
hey, I got letter already... check your letter box everyone. !
Hi Chin Eng,
congratulations! It is a good start already by IJM.
by the way, happy wesak day everyone!
Hi, serious buyer looking for preferably a type D unit facing jetty from mid to high floor. Please email me at norispin(at)gmail.com if you are letting go. Thank you.
Can we view our unit
Chin Eng,
You mean u have got the VP letter?
Anyone got the VP letter from IJM? What is the status now?
Yeah, Chin Eng, You managed to fool everyone again. Good Job. Looking forward for more from you.
To be frank, I also got letters everyday too, Chin Eng. Unfortunately, not the VP letter......LOL
tomorrow is monday. Shall we call up IJM ?. Time to deliver...