The Spring

The Spring condominium located along the Jelutong Expressway that gives a panoramic view of the Penang Bridge. The concept of the project is modern contemporary and emphasizing on its Tropical Garden features.

The Spring Condominium comprises 396 condominium units in total. The built up area ranging from 925 to 1,281 sq.ft.

Property Project : The Spring Condominium
Location : Georgetown, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
Total Units : 396
Built-up Area : approx. 925 - 1,281 sq.ft.
Developer : IJM Properties Sdn Bhd

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May 11, 2009 at 1:00 PMABAAS: when can we get oc or vp
May 11, 2009 at 8:55 PMkk: this morning i call ijm ,the sales people said we will get the vp by this week:)
May 11, 2009 at 10:50 PMUnknown: dear robin,

are you chin eng in disguise ?. please don't give me false hope...

rdgs
May 12, 2009 at 7:12 AMUnknown: All

That is right answer given by Robin. the VP confirmed to release this week. once Bank release the final payment we will get the key to view our unit...see you all.
May 12, 2009 at 9:57 AMUnknown: Dear All,

I believe that we will get the VP this week as I received an email from Mr. Toh as below:-

From: tohcl@ijm.com [mailto:tohcl@ijm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:35 AM
To: Andrea Chee
Subject: RE: The Spring Condominium

Hi Andrea,

We are pleased to inform you that everything is in order now, and we shall be sending out VP letters tomorrow and hopefully OC letters by end of this week.

Please allow a few more days for the letter to reach you.

Again, thanks for your patience and support.

Regards,
Toh
May 12, 2009 at 10:14 AMABAAS: I ALSO RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM mR tOH

Hi En Basheer,

We are pleased to inform you that everything is in order now, and we shall be sending out VP letters tomorrow and hopefully OC letters by end of this week.

Please allow a few more days for the letter to reach you.

Again, thanks for your patience and support.

Regards,
Toh
May 12, 2009 at 5:59 PMFisol: Wahhhh Mr. Toh is so free to reply your emails ahh?

Why he hasnt reply to me yet? hmm.. busy kot? :D
May 12, 2009 at 8:28 PMBK: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Better don't put too high hope on this new round of excitement.
May 12, 2009 at 10:55 PMUnknown: ya...better not. I also dun really trust anyone now. How can Mr Toh send emaails in the wee hours of the nite ?. 12:35am ? A director working so late ? COME ON....
May 13, 2009 at 1:45 PMABAAS: VP OBTAINED. JUST KNOW I CALLED IJM. You guys can call IJM for confirmation.
May 13, 2009 at 2:33 PMUnknown: Confirmed VP obtained. From reliable source. Wait around 20-30 days la, after bank disburse the final portion of the loan, then we will have our keys already, by then O.C. already obtained, hopefully.
May 13, 2009 at 3:23 PMSnowy: OC should be ready 14 days after VP obtained per our SPA.
May 13, 2009 at 4:11 PMUnknown: Hi wong

Nope, under Schedule H of Housing Development Act, the O.C was not take into consideration, under up to VP.

I think you are refer to clause 27 (4) -:
Upon the expiry of fourteen (14) days from the date of a notice from the Vendor requesting the Purchaser to take possession of the said Parcel, whether or not the Purchaser has actually entered into possession or occupation of the said Parcel, the Purchaser shall be deemed to have taken delivery of vacant possession.

Under clause 29 -: The Vendor shall, pursuant to the application for the Certificate of Fitness for Occupation under subclause 26(1), at its own cost and expense, duly comply with all the requirements of the Appropriate Authority which are necessary for the issuance of the Certificate of Fitness for Occupation in respect of the said Building.

So only upto this stage......
May 13, 2009 at 7:44 PMAnonymous: Hi All, I received reply from Datuk Zainal. Pls refer below:-

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: zainalrahim@penang.gov.my
Date: Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: The Spring OC issue
To: Justin

OC Approved. My JPBD will inform IJM soon.

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May 13, 2009 at 7:45 PMUnknown: I heard from my friend that the VP have not yet been sent to purchasers by the developer. Is this true ?. Heard the developer will only send the letter to us when they get official letter from gov.
May 15, 2009 at 9:19 AMJGiCONCEPT: LOOKING FOR AN INTERIOR DESIGNER?

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May 15, 2009 at 9:25 AMJGiCONCEPT: It is so true that this project has been delayed since May 08, and purchasers have to wait for almost a year for the OC, which is very much unacceptable. Some bought the unit as it has various types of layout and sizes to choose, however, it is very frustrated as owners who looked forward to move in and do renovations are stranded. Purchasers should now reconsider their projects although Bayswater project is a success.

Anyways, if the OC has been approved, you can just email me@ joeygoh8@gmail.com for ID consultation. We'll help you to speed things up so that you guys are able to move in fast!
May 15, 2009 at 11:07 AMUnknown: Dear All,

I just received a GREAT NEWS for all Spring buyers. VP and OC had obtained and the IJM staffs are preparing the letter for lawyers, bankers and purchasers now. Thus, I believe by next week we will receive the letter.

I am so happy upon hearing this great news. I will meet up with my kitchen ID tomorrow for the final discussion as I plan to move into my new house ASAP.
May 15, 2009 at 11:51 AMJ.Pathma Priya: SPRING HAS OBTAINED ITS OC ON THE 13/05/2009
May 15, 2009 at 4:50 PMABAAS: CAN WE VIEW OUR UNIT
May 15, 2009 at 6:10 PMUnknown: Hi Basheer,

Once the bankers have release the money, then we can view our unit and start to do whatever renovation that you wish to do for your new house. I am looking forward so much for the letter from IJM.

By the way, Basheer, when do you plan to move into your new house?
May 15, 2009 at 7:29 PMUnknown: Hi Andrea,

Without O.C., we only can view and inspect, but can't start any renovation yet.
May 15, 2009 at 10:35 PMUnknown: Have IJM started to send out the letters?.

I hope it doesn't take them 2 - 3 months to send out the letters...!!!
May 15, 2009 at 11:18 PMP: We should be receive VP letter by next week....
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May 16, 2009 at 9:09 AMUnknown: Hi Steve,

The VP and OC...both have obtained. Therefore, I told Basheer that can start to do renovation.

Of course, if only VP, then purchasers can only view and inspect their houses. At the same time we can ask the kitchen ID, plaster ceiling supplier and the grille suppliers to come and quote us the price.

Once OC obtain, the suppliers will be ready to install the kitchen cabinets, door grille, window grille and plaster ceilings.

This will save up the time.
May 16, 2009 at 10:15 AMLynn: when can start apply for electricity and water?
May 16, 2009 at 3:17 PMJ.Pathma Priya: NOT A PROBLEM IN VIEWING THE UNITS...MANAGEMENT TEAM IS LIBERTY HERITAGE AT SPRING...CAN CALL THEM UP AND ENQUIRE ABT ARCHITECTURAL/STRUCTURAL PLAN, ETC..AS FOR THE LETTERS IT WILL BE OUT EARLY NEXT WEEK...THANKS
May 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM7rock: I already received my VP letter. Hopefully everyone will get it soon. Cheers
May 18, 2009 at 8:19 AMABAAS: Hi Andrea,

I will move in before Hari Raya probably September
May 18, 2009 at 10:04 AMSnowy: I got the VP letter too!
May 18, 2009 at 10:22 AMUnknown: Hi Basheer,

Which block and which floor did you buy? Do you plan to do any renovation?

I plan to do plaster ceiling, grill and kitchen cabinets only.

I plan to move in before August and I will hold a house warming in September.
May 18, 2009 at 10:33 AMUnknown: hi,
i still not yet get the VP letter le...
i have done for my kitchen carbinate booking (already pay deposit). Do anybody know the contact for grill? and also how much to make a kitchen door to seperate the dining area? (Type-B)
May 18, 2009 at 10:48 AMUnknown: dear all owner,
i just received a news that all renovation work for this block will be controlled by the 'gangster' group which currently they in-charge of desa pinang 2 & pinang court 2...they already kaw-tim with local sg pinang guy and maybe IJM site management (just like those desa pinang 2 & pinang court2)
May 18, 2009 at 10:48 AMABAAS: Hi Andrea,

My house is level 04 number 05 facing to ferry.
I think I will do the kitchen cabinet and grill, not much.How about you Andrea? Which block and floor?
May 18, 2009 at 10:54 AMABAAS: Once we receive the letter, can we go and get the house key
May 18, 2009 at 10:57 AMAnonymous: i also not yet receive VP letter ler....
May 18, 2009 at 11:04 AMAnonymous: dunno when can get ler?
May 18, 2009 at 11:20 AMUnknown: Hi Basheer,

Mine is 06-02.

Basheer, you need to pay the deposit for sinking fund and maintenance fee before getting your key. Then you can go to view your house. Once OC obtained, you can start to do your renovation.

Hi Chia,

Which kitchen ID did you engaged?
May 18, 2009 at 11:40 AMUnknown: anybody know where is thest best ID & renovation contractor, pls post it here since i don't want to deal with these gangster constractor
May 18, 2009 at 12:14 PMJ.Pathma Priya: u guys can do something abt the gangsters? i feel that it is not right for them to "pow" all the renovation works.
May 18, 2009 at 12:57 PMUnknown: Can we ignore the "gangster" group and ask the dedicated vendor for renovation? Anything can be do?

When can we start apply the electric and water supply?
May 18, 2009 at 1:21 PMFisol: just wondering, how much will be for the sinking fund? can we pay installment plan 0% :D

can anyone estimate how much we need to prepare in order to get the keys and to view our unit?

oh ya.. mine is TD10-D16 facing the bridge, the non-existing yet The Lights, dumpsite.. no plan for any reno yet, will see if i got any extra after pay them to get keys, 3+1 mth maintenance deposit etc, electricity+water deposit.. hmm what else ah? getting a new home is a hefty investment.. well, i want my new home! :)
May 18, 2009 at 1:33 PMUnknown: Hi Fisol

Under the new act, the sinking fund is 10% of your current monthly maintenance charge, for example, if u pay RM150 p/m, u have to pay extra RM15 p/m for the sinking fund.
May 18, 2009 at 1:38 PMUnknown: Just received VP letter, please take note that the property management not yet bill us the insurance, quit rent & assessment which the developer already paid on behalf. Called them this morning, they said will be billed separately.

TNB & PBA form u have to get from the property management, probaly u get keys from them.

Any one know whether the project name the OC still caleed "The Spring"? Cause many projects in mainland, only can use "malaysian" name.
May 18, 2009 at 2:11 PMFisol: thanks Steve for the info..

i'm yet to get any letter from IJM.. hope by this week lah.. i thought we can get TNB & PBA forms at their office and we need to submit together wth a copy of SPA..

wow, everything goes smoothly now.. i really wanna see my unit :)
May 18, 2009 at 2:49 PMUnknown: normally only after OC the plumbing & electrical contractor will apply meter form from pba&tnb..here maybe it will takes 1-2 weeks..then only buyer cab apply for supply..
For the gangster issue, i hope if they "kacau" us, we must directly take action by making a police report since IJM didn't issued any appointment letter to any renovation contractor...here that mean, we have our freedom & right to choose our own ID contractor...as what i heard, this gangster already put their cabin office (contena) infront of the spring in purposed of controlling all the renovation work..
May 18, 2009 at 5:44 PMUnknown: Fellow Springers,

Congrats on ur respective VPs! The letter was stamped May15, and posted via registered mail. U should be getting it by tmw/Wed. I just got mine today

I think the contents are standard. It says 2 checks are to be made to Jelutong Development for 1) progress billing payment and 2) maint fees & sinking fund

Item (1) is to be taken care by ur panel bank of choice. When I called IJM Land today, it seems keys will only be issued (with VP release letter) when BOTH items above are paid up. And banks are given until June13 grace period to pay up their part..

I cant remember any bank who'd gladly pay up so quickly esp when an extended period is given. Which implies that 14days limit stipulated in our letter doesnt guarantee our keys UNTIL banks bayar cepat..

Crumbs..more waiting time. Anyone's banks have rushed to pay IJM? Pls give them a call to verify status & update this blog. Thx!
May 19, 2009 at 9:16 AMUnknown: hi Andrea,

i engage with cooking zone which locate in i-avenue bayan lepas.
May 19, 2009 at 9:57 AMSnowy: My lawyer has called me and told me that they will send advise letter to bank by this week. With this advise letter, the bank will release the payment. Then we can make appointment with IJM to collect the key and inspect our house after we pay the 3+1 maintenance fee and sinking fund.
May 19, 2009 at 11:33 AMUnknown: Hi Chia,

Which unit did you buy? When are you planning to move in?

How much did cooking zone charged you for the kitchen cabinets and what material did you used?

Thanks & best regards,
Andrea
May 19, 2009 at 11:49 AMABAAS: MY bank said will release the payment by this week
May 19, 2009 at 12:07 PMUnknown: Hi

I use cooking zone too.

i shape, blum drawer and system for wall cabinet.
May 19, 2009 at 1:52 PMUnknown: Hi Steve,

How much is your kitchen cabinets? Which units did you buy?
May 19, 2009 at 2:36 PMUnknown: Hello Tengku Zarith,
I hope you are the one who dare to stand up to these bunch of gangster contractor. Normally, everybody dare not complaint because afraid they will break your window glass, throw red paint at your door....etc

If the spring buyers can successfully stand up and united together, make a police report. Get politicians involved, make headlines in newspaper, police will be pressured to do something. Then, other new apartments will say a big thank you to you guys.

The thing is. Mark my words. Everyone will only think of their unit. Even if they do not hire this gangster contractor, They will silently pay the few hundred RM as Rubbish Fee (Or shall i said Protection Fee to the gangster).

I will wait and See. See how you guys manage to stand up to those gangster contractors. Most likely you guys dare not.
May 19, 2009 at 2:56 PMUnknown: Amazing..I thought all along IJM's good reputation has to do with its non-association & condoning of gangsterism & mob related activities. Did Bayswater face this issue?

It's much wiser to pull a chair at IJM Land office to directly discuss about this issue. If they buat tak tau or buat bodoh by deliberately avoiding this issue, then we should be asking what's the point of paying for security?

With another Summer Place coming up, would they risk allowing such image-tarnishing practice to go unchecked?
May 20, 2009 at 10:20 AMJoe: Discussion on "Gangster contractors" has been exist some time ago....you may get more information from the "views and opinions" corner on your lower right in this forum. Let gather the strength there. all high rise buildings in Penang facing the same issue yet no action is taken...i personally faced this problem in several apartments and keep complaining...my strength alone is not enough and we have to fight as one apartment owner or one Penang, because there is no regulation at the moment to control the gangster contractors and this is falling under Housing Ministry power, not Penang government. if we fight as one particular property, do you think MH will take action? 1 building vs 1 Ministry or 1 State vs 1 Ministry is better? even u lodge report, police cant help much, my experience, when the police came, they sapu everything, when police went back, new table is setting up immediately...what can you do?! we should ask all other high rise building owner to stand up together with 1 voice n fight against this!
May 20, 2009 at 10:32 AMP: In this case,i'll plan to move in with minor renovation eg wiring and piping work for lighting and aircon.There will no plaster ceiling,kitchen cabinet and build in cabinet.
May 20, 2009 at 11:24 AMUnknown: hi Andrea,

i am doing a L-shape, solid surface + glass with alluminium door and some soft close. i am B-type unit...
May 20, 2009 at 8:17 PMLynn: i just received my certificate of fitness from IJM. that's mean OC obtained!! Yeah..
May 20, 2009 at 8:59 PM7rock: I also received the OC letter. Hopes that the Bank will disburse the money to IJM as soon as possible.
May 21, 2009 at 12:07 AMBILLCORP: OC obtained
May 21, 2009 at 7:12 AMUnknown: anyone gotten their keys yet ?
May 21, 2009 at 1:06 PMLynn: My loan account already showed the total amount of loan that i borrowed. i think Maybank had disbursed the balance to IJM. Now, waiting for the official mail from them before i go to IJM office to collect my key
May 21, 2009 at 2:25 PMUnknown: i went to The spring site but did not see any gangster contractors. No table, no containers nothing. Just SPRING building, nice scenery and cool breeze.

Very relaxing.
May 21, 2009 at 3:04 PMUnknown: dear loo,

how is the condition of the place ( in terms of cleaniness ).i guess it must be very dirty since nobody occupy there so many months. i hope IJM can do a proper clean up before hand over.
May 21, 2009 at 3:35 PMUnknown: the condition ?. Dusty... very dusty. May we ask IJM to repaint the entire building ?. some areas are already black with dirt due to rain.

Our walls' paint can come off if you rub your hands on it. Your entire palm will be come white in colour.
May 21, 2009 at 4:51 PMUnknown: hi Loo,
Do you go into your unit or just the surrounding?
May 22, 2009 at 11:45 AMABAAS: I got my house key ready. Hopefully you guys get yours soon. Chase your lawyers and bank to get the key.
May 22, 2009 at 12:18 PMFisol: We are going to pay 3+1 maintenance fee to Liberty Heritage(IJM sister company) soon.. So can we demand cleaning to be done on The Spring common areas?

Wow.. now it's like 'pasar borong' in here.. when there's demand the will always be supply.. that's how the world works.. over demand causes break in the economy equilibrium, prices will increase in supply.. Then how about over supply? You should ask the agents how they handle over supply of units :D can sell cheaper ahhh??
May 22, 2009 at 3:10 PMLynn: Hi Basheer,
What's the document needed before we can collect the key from IJM? Thanks
May 22, 2009 at 3:31 PMUnknown: All

I had veiwed my unit. That is great place to stay. The Balcony floor not so dusty and the view is nice.

Tomorrow morning will go again

See you....
May 22, 2009 at 4:14 PMABAAS: Just get a clearance letter from IJM and pay your 3 + 1 maintanance fee. And than can go to Spring and get the key from the office.
May 22, 2009 at 4:18 PM7rock: Hey David, I am also THE SPRING buyer but I still need to wait to obtain my key. Can I go and view your unit tomorrow. I am keen to view the unit.
May 22, 2009 at 6:19 PMUnknown: Yes I got some infomation , we got no right to choose the grille design.All must follow the stupid and ugly grille design from ijm.
People said IJM got no gangster contractor but why The Spring got?
May 23, 2009 at 7:15 AMUnknown: Any contractors setup show units in the SPRING ?.
May 23, 2009 at 12:34 PMYes: I notice that, people can access to the drying yard of type E from the corridor, wonder how come ijm never pay attention on this... too bad :(
May 23, 2009 at 11:57 PMUnknown: This is my first time buying a house. Any one knows whether we can complaint about the paint ?. Have any one rub your hands on the walls ?. Low quality paint. It comes out on your hands in powder form.
May 24, 2009 at 2:51 PMUnknown: dear loo,

Yes , u can complaint to the management by filing up a form provided by them and they ( Jelutong dev s/b ; the vendor ) are bound to rectify all defects within 30 days from the date they receievd the written notice. Defect liability period = 24 months from VP. you can refer clause 29 in your SPA for further information. This clause also cover building and common property area. We have to work together to ensure that they rectify the common property as well.
May 24, 2009 at 7:48 PMGreg: Spring type C and D are awful.
For potential buyers from sub sales market may need to think twice if u intend to buy for own stay, the master room, after put up a bed, you can hardly walk. Not worth the price tag of > RM300k. For such a layout, even RM250k consider expensive. Other types are fine, very decent layout. Just my very frank view.
May 24, 2009 at 8:16 PMYeoh: Wah, sub-sale price too expensive. No worth to buy.
May 24, 2009 at 10:53 PMCereal Killa 2011: ha ha! yeoh, dont mention sub-sale lar.. developer price i think u also cannot afford. go look at ocean view lah.
May 25, 2009 at 12:11 AMCereal Killa 2011: he he..nuthin ler.. just wanna be the 2000th post :)Yo roslan, what grille are you talking abt? gangster contractor?
May 25, 2009 at 6:33 AMUnknown: Is it true that we can only complaint 2 times ?. That's what Mr Ong told me. By the way, what faults have you guys reported ?. Afraid that I miss out some things.
Thanks
May 25, 2009 at 10:27 AMP: Bamboo,i'm agree with you...I think Yeoh also cannot afford Ocean view...i don't know why still got ppl like Yeoh wan talk non-sense...hehe...I know everyone can share their opinion/comment in +/- but if cannot afford then dont said not worth to buy.
May 25, 2009 at 12:18 PMUnknown: Dear Anonymous,

From my comparative analysis after viewing A,B,C & D, i think type A layout is more practical, Hopefully the selling price meet my budget. Otherwise, i may consider other projects...
May 25, 2009 at 9:21 PMYeoh: P, I just mean that no worth to buy from sub-sale. If u all direct bought from developer, still OK. Sub-sale price already increase more than 25% and no worth to buy anymore.
May 25, 2009 at 9:26 PMYeoh: Bamboo, up to u wat u want to say. For sure I wont buy Ocean View or The Spring.
May 25, 2009 at 10:08 PMUnknown: Yeoh, u are right, IJM project all more expensive compare to other Developer, for example The Srping, 80 plus sq.m small "kap tu" also can sold RM3k plus, then baru make a lot of promotion, what free legal fee lar, free interest lar, actually is not free, is already included in purchase price, IJM after Bayswater suddenly increase all purchase price, actually The Spring and Summer Place , the proposed price is not such higher. I heard from some people tole me IJM staff bought and waiting to dspose, so everbody don't be stupid to go and buy from them.
May 25, 2009 at 10:19 PMCereal Killa 2011: hmmm..so yeoh, u still want to buy at developer price back in May 2008? makes sense for property prices to increase right? if not why is it called an investment?
moral of the story - if u cant afford a higher sub-sale price, then get it early. Applies for all development projects.
May 25, 2009 at 10:22 PMFisol: Today's buyers are smarter lah.. really know how to calculate simple arithmetic.. those in warm water, the water is getting hotter.. once it boils you could hurt yourselves.. u know what i mean lah..
May 26, 2009 at 1:30 PMUnknown: yeoh & 9083,

dont waste your time keep telling people " dont buy this and dont buy that ". You may confuse people ( because most penang property are expensive, unless u buy low cost )... Usually, a property is transacted based on willing buyer n willing seller, Just like food , if it is good ,even a little bit more expensive they sell, people will also patronise. Dont post any baseless comment and just let the market force determine the price.
May 26, 2009 at 2:33 PMUnknown: I've had the chance to view unit A, B and C and to my disappointment, the bedrooms are a tad bit too small for my liking. Heck, I'm living in a 800 sqf apartment now and it feels more spacious! I wonder, does 925 sqft factors in the size of two carpark?
May 26, 2009 at 2:47 PMBK: wah... so many units on sales!!! Don't know whether can get $50k profit or not.
May 26, 2009 at 3:09 PMUnknown: Wonder what will be the actual transection price. We may able to see how many buyers are for own stay and how many are for invest by looking at the transection/ rent activities.
May 26, 2009 at 3:29 PMFisol: if people has lot of money, they can do anything to get more money.. this is investment and profitability.. buy low sell high = profit.

if less money, just buy what u need..plan and throw your money wisely..

if no money, complains and complains..
May 26, 2009 at 3:49 PMUnknown: True! Everybody knows many Spring buyers buy it for profit. Also many peoples not willing to let the investors make too much profit. This does not mean the peoples no money.
So, I am just curious on what will happen, after long 2000+ debate.
May 26, 2009 at 10:54 PMUnknown: Dear All,
I would like to congratulate everyone who had inspected and viewed their unit. Luckily, like everyone else, i got my chance today. But i am inspecting and viewing a flooded unit. Perhaps, an aquarium would be more suitable. Unfortunately, i missed the high tide. But from the stains and the uneven water mark on the wall, i could roughly estimate that the water level was around 3 inches from the floor. Damn, for god sake, what the hell this is? From corridor, foyer, main door, living room, dining room, kitchen, master room, master bath room (Here's the bloody battle ground), room 1 and room 2. Water is all over the place and every where we go. Bloody hell, you really think i am a conservative china man who would think water = wealth. Some might be laughing here, but please, and seriously, this is not funny at all.

As everyone else who had waited so long, i went there with a superb mood and my wife as well as my parent in law. Sadly, what waited us ahead was a ponding unit and lots of disappointment.

Where the hell is repution of the so call "Branded" developer? What is the differences between this branded developer compared to those third class developer? Frankly, from the deepest of my heart, there is no different, both are building crappy stuff.

One of the staff even told us "Why don't you look properly before you buy? Or you may consider to sell it off now." Sorry to be rough and with no offence."F*ck, what do you mean?" Luckily enough that i am able to control my temper and did not explode.

Branded developer? Quality propery? With the latest campaign that they have: Now, tailor made* plan to help you buy your own space. Branded my AS*, quality my AS*. Again, very sorry for the rough words. Tailor made? Tailor made an aquarium? I am not a fish and i don't need to live in a 200K plus aquarium. Damn, i wish i know more "nice" words to curse all these.

According to "Them", this was due to the main pipe something something blar blar was clogged and this had cause the water to overflow to my unit due to i am the lowest unit and just above the main pipe. Thus, this is an unevitable accident that my unit was flooded and i was the victim to be "Slaughtered". Are the architects closing their eyes drawing the buidling plan? How would this crappy design getting certified? Are those involved blind? Come on, tell me something constructive and assured me that this will not happened again with proper prevention in place. This might not happened to me only, it might and potentially happened to other units too.

When i ask the management guy about how are they going to rectify all these? They keep saying, no worries, these will be fixed and we will take care of all these mess. The most wonderful thing is when i ask what if the same thing happened again? The standard business trash answer "No worries, you are covered by our insurance policy." F*ck you, i don't give a damn on that. Policy my AS*.

Honestly, can you guys feel my anger? Do you know how pissed off i am? Thanks for you time of reading through this.
May 26, 2009 at 10:55 PMUnknown: The characters limits forced me to break it into two. Here you go fellow neighbours.

I would like to share with you guys on the inspection i did for the "aquarium":

1. Please make sure that the drainage system is not clog and working properly. Try to open all the water taps when the water meter was installed to ensure that it doesn't get your unit flooded. If it is, that will be wonderful, because The Spring does not came with a swimming pool but we have one built on each of our own unit. Cheers. PS: i don't try to be funny but i don't wish this happened to you guys.

2. Inspect carefully on the tiles, there were some which were cracked either on the floor or on the wall.

3. Rusty balcony grille. Some others might had already mentioned that.

4. Please opened up the all the window and touch + look carefully on the edge of the window. Again, thanks to GOD, today was a rainy day and i was able to see that the rain actually seep into the unit. All the window edgings were wet. Don't know what the term they called, i called it "rubber" that wrapping the window had actually peeled off. The same goes with all other windows and the door at the balcony. Please check properly.

5. Some cracks on the walls, outer surface of the unit.

6. Though most of us may consider to change the switches, i just can't accept the fact that it is "okay" for them to install the switches with defect. So, i complaint too coz one of it was cracked.

7. Uneven floor, i am kind of okay to live with that but my wife "Beh Shiok". Then, we complaint too.

I have to take some time out, the more i wrote the higher my blood pressure is. Will post the link to the photos here if you guys are interested.
May 26, 2009 at 11:16 PMFisol: hey chee yong,
truly sorry to read on your complains. i have yet to get my keys for viewing, so i cannot anticipate much. pls share with us the photos and other complains. i'm sure justice will be served.
May 27, 2009 at 12:13 AMUnknown: Hi i am back after a cold water bath. I found something interesting. "Excellent Through Quality", may i know where the excellent and quality are? Are you dare enough to talk about that after seeing this? Seeing is believing, copy and paste in your browser

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=cywee78&target=ALBUM&id=5340164107382988481&authkey=Gv1sRgCKPm__L3-K3JOg&authkey=Gv1sRgCKPm__L3-K3JOg&feat=email

Thanks for the aquarium, fish pond, swimming pool or what ever everyone like to named it. But one thing for sure, damn, i regretted that i missed the high tide moment, may be i can actually swim there. LOL

Also, fish, prawn, tortoise or any aqua living creatures are welcome. You may donate to my aquarium and we can get a new facility to share.
May 27, 2009 at 12:31 AMUnknown: Try to create a link for you guys.

Click Here For The Photos
May 27, 2009 at 12:37 AMFisol: hi chee yong,
perhaps i'm the first to see the photos here. Oh my god! the leak is so bad.. now we should question why this happen? imagine if it wasn't raining today, you could have not noticed the defects. Looks like it's due to poor workmanship by developer's sub-contractor company. the developer should be totally responsible for it. Where is the 'Excellent Through Quality' ??????
May 27, 2009 at 1:02 AMAnonymous: S**T..!!! i'm speechless..!!

i thought it's just a small pool of water seeping through the window... didnt think that it would have flooded the whole place!!!

Chee Yong, i salute u man.. u didnt go beserk even when u see these kind of things happening to your unit.. did IJM say anything about correcting these st**id mistakes?

now i'm damn anxious to see my own unit... cos i will be getting my keys only by next week..
May 27, 2009 at 1:09 AMUnknown: Hi Fisol,
The water from the rain just seeped into unit and stay around the window. All the ponding water was actually overflow from the main drainage pipe through the bath room in master room. Whether it was the water from the rain or else where, i have no idea. But it was due to the main pipe or something get clogged and the water get overflow. Damn.....Damn.....Damn
May 27, 2009 at 1:14 AMAnonymous: Hi Chee Yong,

Did you forward this link to Mr Toh, your IJM agent and if possible, to escalate this as high as possible to PIC in IJMLand?

We're covered by SPA but to see our own unit with this kind of defects are really depressing..

i've viewed the pics 4 times and i still can't believe that the pipes would have clogged so badly.. or the architect(s) didnt check each and every unit of The Spring before signing off..

damn...
May 27, 2009 at 1:15 AMAnonymous: Chee Yong, what floor/level does your unit belong to and type? I inspected mine today but was ok.
May 27, 2009 at 1:18 AMUnknown: Ciplak,
No worries, my wife will do that. Yes, i am nearly fainted. But what can i do? Beat them up, shouting like a mad man? It doesn't help getting things better. But i am totally agreed with you that it is so damn depressing.....sigh.
May 27, 2009 at 1:20 AMUnknown: Hi Saber,
Perhaps, i am the most lucky one to get an Aquarium while you guys are getting a better condition unit.
May 27, 2009 at 8:12 AMUnknown: All

I feel the ground drain pipe get stuck. That will impact the lower floor water flow back from Toilet drain pipe.

That is serious..at the male sauna room that is bad smile come out from the drain pipe.

All spring buyer, Shall we meet up coming Sat and ask IJM contractor temporary water supply for us to check the plumbing condition?
May 27, 2009 at 9:53 AMFisol: Luckily it was heavily raining and the water flows really test the piping and drainage systems. I guess it was clear weather when the authority did the checks. I believe there are more to be discovered by us, the consumer.

Please post your complains in here so that we can share and bring them up to our 'Excellent Through Quality' (ETQ) developer..
May 27, 2009 at 10:20 AMGreen Tech Inspirer: Hi all,I just viewed my unit yesterday and was really disappointed with the space. As commented by TL earlier, its almost the same space of my current apartment which is 840sq. Maybe my unit type are not good design,im not sure but the disappointment of buying a unit without looking at it is now making me pissed off.Luckily i dont have a leakage problem yet.Lets output all the defacts that we identify so that we can compile all.Im compiling the defects outside my unit as well. Will post once complete.
May 27, 2009 at 10:21 AMislander: hi chee yong, i have not received my keys yet but i can feel the disappointment and anger that you have. Stay strong man.
May 27, 2009 at 11:17 AMUnknown: Yes chee yong, you will never walk alone... :-)
May 27, 2009 at 11:35 AMUnknown: We can group together to form a resident commitee as a team to complain and presurre the developer.I still waiting collect my key and will inspect soon.
May 27, 2009 at 12:20 PMUnknown: Hi fellow neighbours. I had my father in law to collect the keys and inspect the unit for us as my wife and I were currently outstation. I guess we are lucky as we don't have any major defects like chee yong did. But that might be too early to draw a conclusion as when my father in law was doing the inspection, it has yet to rain. We are keeping our fingers crossed. One thing I found weird is the tap and the electric socket in the laundry area. I was told by my father in law that the tap and socket are respectively "strategically" placed one on the right hand side and the other one on the left hand side of the laundry area door. What were they thinking? Am I supposed to place my washing machine right in the middle of the door? We are not government to provide stimulus plan to the renovation contractors. By the way, my unit is the so called impractical Type C.

Any type C owner here? Mind to share how big is the master bedroom excluding the triangle area near window and the area between room door and toilet door? Worried my bedroom set would not fit. :)
May 27, 2009 at 12:52 PMUnknown: Dear Chee Yong,

I feel sorry for your unit, i still haven't view my unit,i do not expect much but once i have my keys, i will do a thorough inspection and take more defect pictures on my unit as well as the common area. IJM staff has fail ( or perhaps too lazy ) to do follow up inspection before handover. Does anyone have the top managemnt email address, if possible the directors email. I wish that all directors will have the opportunity to view the pictures taken by Chee yong, otherwise they may still be proud & thinking that IJM always provide good quality product. I doubt toh has view the unit & the place...chee yong photo could be only tip of the iceberg.
May 27, 2009 at 1:19 PMUnknown: Hi Kiddo,
I was lucky enough to view type C too yesterday while i am going floor by floor to see whether there's any other units which suffered the same as mine. On weird thing that i encountered on they "C" was the bath room door on master room. Around 6 inches of the door was cut and the door handler was located far inner. I think you had to view it yourself to know the real picture. Too me it was a rather weird design and i can't accept it.

From The Proud Owner of Type A (A for aquarium...sigh)
May 27, 2009 at 2:02 PMFisol: A post from a low cost apartment buyer, for sharing only.. Somewhat true for us, same thing might happen to The Spring.. Hope it wont be that bad lah...

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Ini pengalaman aku

Kalau ada orang tingkat atas suka buang sampah merata tempat di koridor, bila hujan sampah akan masuk dalam paip dan bila overloaded paip akan pecah. Biasanya tingkat bawah yang menanggungnya.

Kalau ada orang tingkat atas suka buang sampah melaui lubang paip kat balkoni, pun akan banjir dan ini memang masalah pasal akan masuk dalam rumah serta berbau busuk dan merosakkan perabot.

Kalau ada orang tingkat atas suka buang sampah melaui lubang tandas, pun akan banjir dan ini memang masalah pasal akan masuk dalam rumah serta berbau busuk dan merosakkan perabot. Pernah satu kali aku balik rumah, dalam toilet ada najis yang hampir penuh mangkuk tandas tu. Punyalah busuk, hampeh betul. Bini aku apa lagi, terus muntah lerrrrrrrrr.

Aku tak faham kenapa orang suka buang sampah merata-rata. Bila longkang pecah depa complaint. Dan kat sri bayu tu, jangan kata yang education level yang rendah je yang buang sampah, yang ada ijazah pun pun buang sampah merata-rata, bak kata pepatah orang kelantan, ”cerdik kot lain bodoh kot lain”. Yang bestnya, inilah golongan paling lantang bersuara.

Satu lagi, water pressure kat tingkat bawah memang amat tinggi. Itu fasal everytime nak keluar rumah utk tempoh agak lama, aku akan tutup paip utama kat luar rumah. Hehehehehehe.

Actually ini semua normal utk apartmen kos rendah mcm "APARTMENT A". Tapi utk kondo kos sederhana atau tinggi ni, aku tak tahu la macamana……apa-apa pun everything will based on expectation.

Satu lagi, kalau taknak masalah mcm ni, belilah rumah teres.........

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May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PMUnknown: Haha,
Good sharing. Lesson learn: there is no difference between The Spring or the so call "Low Cost" apartment. But the fact is, the incident mentioned was due to ppl who lack of public awareness, but my aquarium was not. LOL.

The Sping: An Unit Tailor Made Into An Aquarium. Excellence Through Quality?

Perhaps, Type A: A for Aquarium.

Fisol, mind to share the blog on above post. Kawe oger kelate jugok.
May 27, 2009 at 2:39 PMUnknown: My wife just told me that it wasn't "Excellence Through Quality" but "Delivering Excellence Through Quality" on their website. No wonder missed Q abit. An Apartment Tailor Made into An Aquarium. Damn, enough is enough. This is too much. No more post from me for the time being, else i might get admitted.
May 27, 2009 at 5:08 PMFisol: hi chee yong,
i got it pasted from a kelantanese friend, not sure if it is from blog or somewhere else.. you are right, in that case they had no issue with flooded water after getting OC, problem arose when people contribute to becoming a problem.. Our case is developer contributes to our unit problem, which is worse..

kawe oghe penang mari.. mainland. my first property in penang, so my anticipation of The Spring is just only lah.. wait until i get my keys next week..
May 27, 2009 at 5:29 PMgwsc: recently the top floor units in one of pinang court 2 are flooded also after long heavy rain.
IJM quality control is really poor.
May 27, 2009 at 10:48 PMCereal Killa 2011: chee yong,

while we share your anger and disappointment over your unfortunate "discovery", lets not be to carried away in likening the Spring to a low cost apartment. After all, Fisol is just giving us a heads up on a worst case scenario.

Like Ciplak, I am an owner who has yet to cllect my keys. Who knows, yours is an aquarium..mine could be a zoo! ( touchwood!)

However, I think if as long as we residents are united in our cause to fight for our rights for a justifiable condition apartment, I think we will prevail. I dont think IJM will be willing to risk their reputation when they have Summer and the Light in the pipeline.
May 28, 2009 at 10:24 AMUnknown: Hi all to my fellow Spring neighbours,

It's by chance that I stumbled upon this blog and found it very useful. I've also been reading up on the previous entries. As I've just collected my keys and inspected my unit,I'm very happy with it despite a few defects noted in my inspection. As I know friends who've also collected their keys, all were ok and looking forward to moving in soon. I really like the landscaping; lilies, the green, etc. Sorry about those unlucky ones but I'm sure all be made good. What I do hope is that all future residents will come together and make and maintain Spring as an ideal apartment block. Cheers!
May 28, 2009 at 10:40 AMUnknown: Hi again,

Just to clarify, I'm a different 'Penang' from the previous entries.

Cheers.
May 28, 2009 at 11:12 AMijmisbad: Hmm isn't it ironic that some people just seem to complaint over IJM properties through blogs. Or worse still, post their worries and complaints over newspapers or noticeboards. AND YET still come out to buy IJM properties, so laku one? Either IJM's reputation is SOOOOoooo great, that buyers seem to have conveniently forgotten their worries, or the buyers are simply hypocrites. No offense though. Just a personal view. :-)
May 28, 2009 at 11:18 AMFisol: it is how you anticipate it lah..
May 28, 2009 at 11:23 AMijmisbad: Ya so sad case right? Anticipation is one thing. Expectation is another ma... All these buyers and IJM, Both also fail to deliver and so hypocrite. Melepaskan tangan only expert lor.
May 28, 2009 at 3:41 PMUnknown: Dear all spring owners,

I have just viewed my unit. I'm a bit lucky as compare to chee yong, my unit only have a few minor defects, overall conditions " not that bad ". I walked around the place and found that there are still plenty of maintenance works, minor defects and installation need to be done by IJM. The whole place is dusty due to the on going works but the management told us next month they will have more staff to take care of the place. So, i think it should be ok. My overall rating : above average..
May 28, 2009 at 4:25 PMUnknown: i just collected my key today, quite happy with the service rendered by the property management... though there are some defects, bear in mind that, all the works were done by human being but not machine. i would rate "good" for the service during the handover key process... hope that ijm shall act fast on the rectification work
May 28, 2009 at 11:53 PMGreg: Don't worry, it's common for new apartment to have few defects. During handover of Ocean View, similar thing occurred, from ceiling water leaking to uneven tiles. At the end, IJM still solve the problem for the owner. Hence, no need to lose sleep over the matter.
May 29, 2009 at 12:04 AMUnknown: I had received several positive responses from IJM Land. I really appreciated their assurance in getting the issue rectified. Will go to my soon "EX" aquarium again this Saturday. Hope to see it turn back to an aparment. Will share again with you guys ..........cheers.
May 29, 2009 at 9:15 AMAnonymous: Hi all,

i still can't collect my keys cos the bank (branch, not main) haven't passed the cheque to lawyer yet.. reli slow service..

i will be going to Ikea tomorrow and would appreciate it if any C type owners can share the unit measurement with me.. particularly the dry yard, living room and balcony area..

can you please email to ciplak_me@yahoo.com?

thanks a lot...
May 29, 2009 at 9:18 AMAnonymous: hi chee yong,
good to hear that your unit is back on track..
can't check mine yet cos havent gotten my keys.. :-(
May 29, 2009 at 9:25 AMUnknown: Hi, I am an owner of "The Spring" type A, low floor, any interested buyer please email me at : dannygan12@gmail.com

Target selling price is RM300K (negotiable)
May 29, 2009 at 9:34 AMUnknown: Hi Chee Yong,

Good to hear that.

As the building is built by human, defects will be here & there, its really depends on luck & and which floor you choose. Try to avoid highest floor & lowest if can.

The most important things is after sales service, thats why all residential property developer in required to give 18 months/24 months defect liability priods.

Not yet collect my keys, my bank just released the final sum yesterday. Maybe next month la.
May 29, 2009 at 10:39 AMijmisbad: So kesian to Chee Yong lor. Masalah kehidupannya akhirnya diselesaikan juga. Tahniah tahniah.
May 29, 2009 at 3:46 PMUnknown: Hi Steve,
Thanks for the advise. But to be honest, by the time reaching my queueing number, there's not much option left. What to do. Will go and check it tomorrow. Cheers.
May 29, 2009 at 4:05 PMUnknown: hi all,
i decide to do the grill. if you all find some where please include me together... since the pattern is fix... so i guess mass production will get cheaper price...
please let me know if you have nice contractor...
May 29, 2009 at 5:41 PMislander: hi all,
collected my keys today.
the apartment had minor defects(like door knob shakes and door has little gap) but overall, it is very good.
However, one thing did blew my top off, i bought the unit number 14. but today i discovered that all unit number 14 has been changed to 13A. My wife and I really wanted unit number 14. we even checked with the priest. According to IJM, it has been changed by MPPP. Does anyone know what I can do about it?
Why did the MPPP change all units number 14 to 13A?
One thing i need to note here is the IJM personnel at the site, i cant remember her name, i think is Miss Lily(quite short with a smile always). She was very profesional and helpful. She was also very patient even though i was very upset over the address change.
May 29, 2009 at 11:14 PMUnknown: 4 in chinese languange same sound with die, for condo or apartment, storey 4 or 14 always replace by 3A or 13A, chinese people very pantang lar.
May 29, 2009 at 11:19 PMUnknown: islander, she of course very helpful with u lar, now a days purchaser very "pandai" complain mar, especially "The spring" purchaser, from signing SPA complain until OC obtained. If she not treat u like "king" later kena complain again, ha ha.
May 30, 2009 at 7:57 PMGreg: Conservatively, at least 50% or > 200 units, all types from A to G, of The Spring up for sale.
So, potential buyers out there, plenty of choices, whether it's a buyer's market or not, buyers or sellers call the shot, judged by yr self.
May 30, 2009 at 8:56 PMCereal Killa 2011: Dear potential buyers,

Its true that there are many units up for sale and buyers may be spoilt for choices. But its good to understand the layout, floor and unit type before going ahead with your decision.

I am a potential buyer who visited the Spring last week with a friend. There are some unit type layouts which will give you nightmares! Some views are also less spectacular depending on where its facing and which floor.

In a nutshell, you must be there to experience the unit by yourself. But overall, its a good project at the given price and location.
May 30, 2009 at 9:46 PMUnknown: Hi Chee Yong,

I am so surprised to see your apartment in such a condition! I tot IJM is good in quality.

Do you make noise to IJM management?

james
May 30, 2009 at 11:25 PMUnknown: SPRING is the best...!!! I luv the place. My type is TYPE C. I luv the balcony. Master bed room though unique in shape, has advantage because even if it rains heavily, I can still open my window. :-)
May 30, 2009 at 11:37 PMUnknown: I notice the spring residents consist of mostly love birds. young romantic couples YIPPEEE... i am also one of them.
May 31, 2009 at 7:08 AMAmy: I've viewed my unit. I haven't done the detail defect checking, but overall looks good. The management's attitude is good too.

Chee Yong, sorry for your case. And I do really hope that your unit problem will be solved as soon as possible! Do follow up with IJM, and they should responsible for it! Good luck!

Found out that no seesaw and swing in children playground. I thought kids like it. Haha!

I've asked one of the IJM staff, he told me that "no appointed contractor". That means, we can hire any contractor that we want for renovation :)

Anybody knows that when can we apply for electricity and water?

By the way, HOMEDEC will be held on 5-7 June 2009 at PISA. Check it out~ :)
May 31, 2009 at 2:25 PMUnknown: Dear danny,

Thanks for your offer, but my choice is facing ferry ( east ),...i will be viewing one unit this afternoon. Thanks again.
May 31, 2009 at 2:55 PMBK: A refresh on the price movement on the Spring:

Launching price in May 2008:
Type A: 231 - 272K
Type B: 231 - 262K
Type C: 229 - 260K
Type D: 231 - 262K
Type E: 347 - 368K
Type F: 291 - 322K
Type G: 326 - 357K

Random asking price in May 2009:
Type C: 300K
Type G: 450K
Type B: 340k
Type F: 390K

Go up quite significantly. One of the best return property investment, together with D'Piazza and Palm Palladium.
May 31, 2009 at 3:38 PMUnknown: Dear BK,

Any idea about Type A current selling price?
May 31, 2009 at 6:36 PMBK: Asking price is the price that seller wanted to sell. No info on actual transacted price. Type A should be similar to Type B.
May 31, 2009 at 7:41 PMFisol: Hi all,

Surprisingly i notice there's no demand for Type D units.. Any idea why? Perhaps it's kinda square conservative type of design. I have yet to view my Type D unit @ 10th floor facing the bridge and infamous dumpsite.. i wonder how is the view like from there ;)
May 31, 2009 at 11:50 PMUnknown: Serious buyer looking for Type D unit but only willing to pay not more than RM300k. If the price is right for you and if your unit is above 10th floor and facing town, please email bachangman@gmail.com. Will buy immediately.TQ!
June 1, 2009 at 9:16 AM7rock: When can we apply for electricity and water supply? I plan to start renovation soon.
I have asked few contractors to do the quotation.
If you guys wanna the contractors contact, can email me.

liverpoolfc.ynwa@gmail.com
June 1, 2009 at 8:42 PMAnonymous: Hi all,
we've inspected our unit today and are glad that everything turns out right. the personnel assigned to inspect the unit with us; Shariff is a friendly and professional guy which made the unit inspection easier for first time buyer like my wife & i...
however, there are 4 points which baffles me:

1) The bathroom heater points. IJM's design is to be used with heater tank type and doesn't accommodate compact heater module. any idea how we can overcome that without hacking the bathroom wall?

2) Dry yard area. power point is at one end, water supply & drain hole is at the other. which side is better to put the washing machine?

3) finally, the aircon compressor units’ placement/location. did you all notice that the compressor drain pipes for master and second bedroom are to be placed at the OUTSIDE WALL of the master bedroom's toilet? how the aircon guy is supposed to bring the compressor out and secure it in place without jeapordising their own lives? it is a totally crazy layout.

4) aircon piping for living room. the piping ended right above the balcony sliding door. are we supposed to mount the compressor on top of the outer wall of the sliding door? can't IJM extend the pipes to match the piping from 3rd bedroom?

i intend to write a letter to Mr Toh and highlight these 4 points. anyone wants to join me?
email me if you do: ciplak_me@yahoo.com
June 1, 2009 at 11:40 PMUnknown: Hi all,
I have inspected my unit too today and glad to say that it looks ok. With regards to the design of the grille door,i highlighted the design of door being not inline with our wooden main door. i was told that we can change it to a sliding door or shift the door to be inline with the wooden main door with the condition that the steel door must face inward and not outward into the corridor which is common property.
June 2, 2009 at 9:51 AMUnknown: All

Shall we call IJM to charge the design of the grille. for dry yard grille I agree to make it standard. for our main door grille we should have the right to choose the design what we like.

Another point the main door grille IJM not allow us to open toward to corridor. That is not practical. You can see some of Condo example "Gold cost" the main door grille the developer also allow them open toword the corridor and the grille they design by own.
June 2, 2009 at 10:20 AMAdrianQ: I have visited The Spring Last weekend. I was interested to view and buy type E unit.But, after viewing I no longer plan to buy there.
Reasons:
1. Layout was bad.
2. If you observe the all of the building it is soo thin. I feel like a low cost flat.
3. the view. Is either view of 6 big Shyt damn behind , in front garbage, dirty water Drain or macallum view. I was a little shock.

But! if U are buying at the launching price which is only RM200k+ i think its worth it.

If U R planing to pay RM400+ for these Unit, I think its a joke. I wonder who is going to buy it. I wanna treat him a dinner :)

Just go to 19th floors type F and look down to the ground floor from inside U will see something like starwars .. hahah

GOod luck :)
June 2, 2009 at 11:24 AMsulin: Understand from Mr Ong that if we want to put up grill door we have to sign undertaking letter if the placement of the grill is the available space in front of our main door, unless you intend to put the grill directly in front of your main door & opens inside then there is no need to sign the undertaking letter because it is common area & in case other residents complain then you would need to take the grill door down.

When ask Mr Ong said that the management will contact all Spring owners directly about the application of TNB & PBA when the letter is ready which is suppose to be this week.

There is 1 unit type A unit 8 which is going for RM310k. This should be a reasonable buy as it is nearer the sea & facing east.
June 2, 2009 at 12:01 PMUnknown: Dear Adrian Q (AQ),

Sorry No offence, I think you have a bit of low IQ,

1) layout for type E , is kind of diiferent design and i feel that it is still Ok if you can renovated & furnished it nicely.
2)How do you define Thin building? From my opinion, This building is quite unique and all units has been design to face seaview. How do you diffeciate a low cost property as compare with The Spring...I guess u haven't even been to a low cost property.
3)I dont think u are a genuine buyer based on your comments.

honestly, im a bit doubtful of the project before i collect the keys but after viewing the unit, now im one of the proud owner for the spring.
June 2, 2009 at 12:19 PMABAAS: YES I AGREED WITH OL
June 2, 2009 at 12:40 PMUnknown: Adrian Q,

What do u mean by thin? The Spring using red clay brick for most of exterior wall.

Have you actually went to any low cost building?
RM75,000 in Penang Island & RM30k to RM50k in mainland.
June 2, 2009 at 2:10 PMAnonymous: Recently Type E sold for 440k, TypeA 308k, just for your info...regards !
June 2, 2009 at 3:50 PMUnknown: attention to type B unit face ferry:

you must do grill for the window in dining room! it is so easy to climb from the stair area to dry ward and stand on the compressor area. They can break in through the window in dining room (normally kitchen have cage but dining room dont have). This can happen to all floor unit type B facing ferry...
June 2, 2009 at 9:54 PMUnknown: Just for info. Type C facing ferry. A deal have been done at around RM330K. Those who wants to let go, try to hang on because price might increase again after applying PBA and TNB and reno. A property agent said that price might increase until RM370K.
June 2, 2009 at 10:40 PMCereal Killa 2011: seriously a type C can fetch RM330K in the subsale market? I tot thats the type riddled with design issues? wah if like that type A mah fatt tatt?
June 2, 2009 at 10:58 PMUnknown: The price might increase or decrease, depending on demand. IMHO, it's too early to tell now because some owners haven't gotten their keys yet and have not started to look for buyers or decided to sell. When they do, supply will be high. As for demand, we shall wait and see. As a buyer, of course I'm hoping that demand won't be high so that prices may drop. I was interested in The Birch Plaza before and have been following their selling prices closely. During the first three months OC was obtained in Dec, units were selling at around RM395k and some over RM410k. Today, 6 months later, I can see many selling around RM370k nego and as low as RM358k. Hopefully, the unit I'm looking for (Type D facing jetty) will sell below RM300k soon. Fingers crossed. XX
June 2, 2009 at 11:04 PMGreg: John Connor,
Ooi could be in his own dreamland when the deal was done. He must have lot of Type C units on hands.

Congrats Ooi!

Type C owners, plz make sure u heed Ooi's advice, hold on to your unit for another decade, u could fetch RM500k, overtake Type E, F and G and smile all the way to the bank.
June 3, 2009 at 12:15 AMCereal Killa 2011: Skeptism aside, if what Ooi claims is true, i guess that was one hell of a transaction since Saber informed that the more sought after A-type only transacted for 308K...

anyway, whats wrong with the D type that ppl are harping on?
June 3, 2009 at 8:39 AM7rock: I m type D owner and I don't see any problem with my type. Just one thing I would like to comment is just the size of master bedroom. It is a bit smaller compare to type A B and C, but overall, I m satisfy. There is one advantage of type D is the main door does not block by any wall, thus you can see the Gergotown view and some more it is good aeration. Besides, you have a big corridor in front of your main door. Just sharing my point of view.
June 3, 2009 at 1:47 PM7rock: Hi Amy, please check your window on every bedroom as I found out a water leakage on my Master bedroom. Due to heavy rain this morning, I noticed the leakage during afternoon time when I went to there to do some measurement.
June 3, 2009 at 10:05 PMFisol: I'm type D owner too.. Yes, absolutely agree master bedroom is kinda squeezed.. kingsize bed will not be practical..
June 3, 2009 at 10:18 PMUnknown: Frankly, I bought TYPE C just because I like it's design. It's special and unique in every way. Do you know that it's master bed room is kind of cooling even at noon time ?. Only type C have this advantage. Other units, if you wanna stay in your masterbed room in the afternoon will need to on the air-con. Moreover, TYPE C's hall is the longest of all the other units. Cheers
June 3, 2009 at 10:20 PMUnknown: Oh ya... one more thing. TYPE C's balcony is the biggest compared to A, B and D units
June 4, 2009 at 10:29 AMP: I strongly agree with Wa,I'm also type C owner too.
June 4, 2009 at 1:42 PMAnonymous: hi all,
i wrote the following mail to The Editor of The Star last Friday (29 May) but it wasn't published yet. so i intend to share the thoughts here with all of you...

With reference to the article “Smells like clean spirit; The Star Lifestyle section; 26 May 2009”, I would like to highlight the condition of dumpsites in Penang Island particularly the one along the Jelutong Expressway.

It is an eye opener to see that New Yorkers are making progressive and sure steps to convert the biggest wasteland in the world into a recreational park in 30 years time.

Even our neighbouring country, Singapore has converted their wasteland into a marine/recreational park as highlighted in an article entitled “Dump wonderland; dated 16 May 2009”.

In local scene at Selangor, news entitled “Building paradise from wasteland; dated 4 May 2009” painted a stark picture against the effort done for dumpsite at Jelutong Expressway.

For start, Jelutong dumpsite has been in operation for more than 40 years serving millions of Penang’s inhabitants but as with everything, there is a limit for a place to take the amount of waste generated by Penangites.

However, it is disheartening to see that instead of cutting down the dumping activities around the over-capacity dumpsite, the state government have decided to revive it into another cash cow by allowing even general public to dump their waste there for a fee as reported in “Fee for dumping; dated 29 April 2009”.

For the record, this dumpsite has far exceeded its capacity and in fact, it has over-extended into the secure region around the sea area, leaking leachate into open sea and harmed the surrounding environment.

On several occasions over the years, especially during dry season, massive fire happened via direct or indirect means too.

This indirectly placed the surrounding area at risk and not to mention the lives of our brave fire fighters called in to quell the fire.

What are the proactive steps taken by MPPP or the state government to address this issue?

Instead of dragging their feet and a whole lot of promises, stern actions must be taken knowing that we are not only harming the environment but human lives as well.
June 4, 2009 at 3:01 PMFisol: Good effort to keep Penang clean and healthy in future.. Unofficially, we heard it will be converted into a Japanese tropical garden. That is even nicer.. What would be the timeline? We have no ideas yet.. It will take time from now until the whole stretch of The Lights to reach that areas.. i think so.. with good hopes, lets wish it to happen..
June 4, 2009 at 11:53 PMGreg: Allow me to say Hypocrite! If not becos u guys bought The Spring, will you guys so civic minded talking about environmental friendly, care about human lives and etc.

Exactly the same like those who protest Surin project at Tanjung Bungah. So happen one or two ocassion I've attended the so call group meetings to protest about dangerous of hill slope development, condemn all parties involved, including State Govt, Municipal Council, the developer and etc. Sadly, find out some of the protesters in fact were from the nearby Coastal Tower, Twin Towers residents. Wondering why they were suddenly so concious about environment and protesting Surin project . Don't they realize the fact their own apartment/condo in fact built on hillslope itself.
Why only now they protest but not during the time their apartment/condo was built.
One word describe all "SELFISHNESS".
Of course, there were genuine environmental conscious peoples there, esp. those residents from Chee Seng Garden and NGO. Really symphatize with their predicament and tireless efforts.

If not becos u guys bought The Spring and if not becos those protesters bought Coastal Tower and Twin Tower, wondering you guys still remain so concern about environment, talking about dumpsite management, air pollution, hillsope development affect water catchment area and other bullshit things and etc.

If you guys are genuine concern about environment, go protest the raping of jerejak island hill, batu ferringhi hill, the river / drainage pollution near Bayan Lepas, and many more. Bet you, environment pollution will never in your vocab if not becos you guys bought The Spring.
June 5, 2009 at 1:09 AMCereal Killa 2011: Dear "the Light",

Do not be jealous that Spring residents decided to be proactively do something about the issue. If you are less informed about the condition of the dumpsite, we cant blame you of being dumb and naive. Find out more before commenting. Its an environmental hazard that has surfaced since a few years ago. If someone finally has the guts to speak out, just let them do it. It concerns the whole Jelutong Expressway and not just the Spring. In life, try to look at the whole picture and not just your myopic view.
June 5, 2009 at 1:32 AMGreg: JConnor,
If you claimed to be well informed of the dumpsite, don't tell me it was environmental hazard since few years ago. Pls give me a break with yr statement. The dumpsite was there since decades ago and no doubt it has been environmental hazard since then.

But can't blame anyone, if people like you and some Spring residents suddenly wake up from bed few years ago start to realize the dumpsite in fact environmental hazard only after pay yr cheque to IJM. But I'm not said their action is a bad thing, just highlight the ugly side of a human. That's all.
June 5, 2009 at 9:35 AMUnknown: Hi all,
HOMEDECO start from today in PISA, can go and have a look...
June 5, 2009 at 11:29 AMUnknown: Hello "The Light",

Are you one of the lucky, evolved primates who has lived all ur life along Kg atap houses of Jelutong Expressway...and successfully had ur lung, nostrils, brain & foul mouth adjusted to the sickening illegal burning smell from the loveable dumpsite?

People's lives progress for the better, not regress backwards like ur weird liking & nostalgia for the dumpsite. Keep in mind that the dumpsite started on undeveloped land. Few rubbish bags before a permanent heap is formed; M'sians are way too famous for that.

Now that JE & IJM has brought so much development & traffic to that area, should the dumpsite continue to mount & spill into the sea?

I suggest u take a walk up the dumpsite or wade around its waterfront. If that doesnt kill u, ur mindless comments will, for all of us on this blog
June 5, 2009 at 11:39 AMAnonymous: Hi The Light,
Thanks for your blatant outpouring of emotions here...i appreciate you being blunt here.. so i'll be blunt in my post too...

why are you so KPC? it's our cheque, our money, our business.. nothing concerning you right?

or you have nothing to do except to comment behind the scene? or perhaps you've no "backbone" to speak of..

at least Springers are doing proactive actions here..

perhaps you're jealous that we're doing something for our own betterment UNLIKE YOU? :-)

i suggest that you grow your own "backbone" first before commenting on other ppl's posting..
June 5, 2009 at 11:57 AMFisol: The infamous dumpsite will go away one day.. I can imagine everyday waking up and seeing it from the 'wont-nicely-fit-kingsize-bed' master bedroom window everyday. I have Jerjak Island view and Penang Bridge view to compensate.

Lets have some sense of responsibility in respect of environment, though one might be a hypocrite or what so ever.. it's you who decide what u become.. Dont start bashing like kids in here lah!
June 5, 2009 at 12:54 PMAdrianQ: OL , U say no offence but scolded PPL low IQ. Is tat the way to talk? Is it ur problem or ur parents?
I am sure Ur brain got problem.

What i mean is for the price range of 400K+ it is a little not worth it tat's all. To compare with other 400k+ price range APartment or condo. It doesn't mean to say Ur place is no good. Y R U so deffensive? U wanna sell RM400k+ and make $ is it? If it is , it is also reasonable bcoz u paid for it.

By the way, to all The Spring Owner, Good luck.
And May God Bless U all. Hope U got to sell at good price.
June 5, 2009 at 2:30 PMUnknown: Dear Adrian, U wanna buy my unit ?. I wanna sell YOU a special price at RM5,000,000.00 :-)
June 5, 2009 at 2:44 PMUnknown: Adrian Q ( Low IQ ),

Let me clarify myself here,
1) i didn't scold you
2) Please read again your earlier comment and my question?
3) Being low IQ is not an offence but dont be a hypocrite!!

Reasons why again i said, you have low IQ :-

1st, You don't even know how to answer my question or you do not know what you are talking about in your comment.

2nd, From your recent comment, I think you have forgotten what you have written on 2nd June 2009 , 10.20am. ( Does low IQ comes with short memory? )

3rd, There is no problem here, it is just my opinion/comments ?

4th, I didn't plan to sell the spring, I love this place and im planning to stay.

So....Dont be a hypocrite here, Post negative comments earlier and now pretend to wish all spring buyers.
June 5, 2009 at 3:23 PMFisol: I personally went to carpark roof-top recreational area.. everything is well placed up there, but where is the restroom @ toilet?? Not in the plan? let say in urgent case, do u think some people will do plant watering business up there? It helps the plants grow well, but not good for others. Optionally, one always have to run back to unit or ground floor facility for 'business' purpose, nature's call.
June 5, 2009 at 3:45 PMUnknown: Adrian Q,

Oops!!! i forgot something very important here !! please be more " sporting " here. This conversation is between me and you, please don't bring our parents into this. Dont act like a kids. If you call yourself "gentleman" then face the facts and clarify yourself here . Let us know what is your ulterior motive behind these posting.
June 6, 2009 at 11:25 PMUnknown: Good job ciplak_me! Hopefully your letter get published soon and bring the authority's attention to this matter. I was there today for about an hour. The burning smell was bad I ended up with irritated/itchy eyes and nose for a couple of hours afterward. It's going to pose a serious problems to those with respiratory illnesses if steps are not taken to stop open burning at the dumpsite.
June 6, 2009 at 11:48 PMUnknown: Hi TL,What time is the burning start and how long it take?Is it everyday also have burning at the dumpsite?
June 7, 2009 at 12:28 AMGreg: victor. yr mother got problem to teach u how to read, is it? where in my msg encourage open burning. go to yr mother bed and ask her to teach u how to read and understand simple english. ask yr mother to check yr brain first b4 release u out to bark. don' blame others when u r so childish and immature to start the war this way. the last thing i want to say is bad mouth yr mother. got it?
June 7, 2009 at 1:09 AMCereal Killa 2011: I think we may have the first case of gangster contractors "harassing" the owners. My friend bought his electrician and contractor for viewing today and was told by the gangster contractor i.e. the one building the showroom at the 2nd floor, that they must but cement and sand from them (at a higher price)and have to contract them to do the tiling instead of other contractors. I think this spells trouble for us who are going in with our own renovators.

An IJM staff said the best way was to get many residents to lodge police report and hopefully pressure the gangsters away.

Just to note as well,the gangsters are now smarter also. instead of camping outside, they now buy a unit inside so they can get legal access to harass you.
June 7, 2009 at 8:43 AMUnknown: The Light,

No need to write so long, i would use 4 words to decribe you " Selfish KPC ". We dont need you to discourage us, we need support & togetherness here. So....i suggest you better dont watse your time here....apply a license, go to market and " sell your fish there "
June 7, 2009 at 10:23 AMGreg: PE, Besides rebutt my facts are not true or ridiculous, the best you can do is just start with childish name calling.
But at least your childish way is far more better than victor's uncivilize way of argument.
June 7, 2009 at 2:03 PMUnknown: Penang, I do not know when the burning started and how long it took but the burning smell was already there when I visited the site around 6 something in the evening. I also do not know if the burning occurs everyday but during all the three times I was there since last week, there were burning smell every time so I can assume the burning takes place almost every day?! It's scary knowing I'll be moving in soon. Air purifier for every room in the house, that's for sure.
June 7, 2009 at 5:17 PMUnknown: The Light,

A fact is a fact,you can't change it. You can call me anything you want, it doesn't matter. I judge you based on what you have written and not the way how you write....I read again your comment...i dont think i can find other word to descibe you other than " Selfish KPC "

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