The Spring condominium located along the Jelutong Expressway that gives a panoramic view of the Penang Bridge. The concept of the project is modern contemporary and emphasizing on its Tropical Garden features.
The Spring Condominium comprises 396 condominium units in total. The built up area ranging from 925 to 1,281 sq.ft.
Property Project : The Spring Condominium
Location : Georgetown, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
Total Units : 396
Built-up Area : approx. 925 - 1,281 sq.ft.
Developer : IJM Properties Sdn Bhd
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«Oldest ‹Older 1401 – 1600 of 2397 Newer› Newest»I still need to wait for OC until March 09 or more even The Spring have been completed?
I don't mind to wait if IJM able to get freehold for us.
In your dreams brother. They will not waste their money and time on us and apply freehold....
If not convert to Freehold,then why still need to wait until March 09 or longer to get OC?
there are many fake or un-true replies here. the spring will remain leasehold and targeted OC by end january
Correct! There is impossible The Spring can convert to freehold, it will remain leasehold forever.
I think you all should read the newspaper.Penang State Goverment already announced low and medium cost leasehold apartment can convert to freehold on January. Go and read your agreement properly,The Spring is medium cost apartment ok....
Is true Lim Guan Eng said only low and medium cost apartment can convert to freehold just pay the admin fees around RM100-RM200,landed property will not allow to convert.on 21-12-08 Star newspaper
(only just one buyer dun wanna convert to freehold , the convertion can't done ).....this not a problem ok.Just pay RM100-RM200 to convert your house freehold ,I dont think buyer dun want to convert.
The Spring is medium cost apartment. But the price is at medium high level.
So, Who will initiate the conversion request to Penang State Government ?. YOU ?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
if u read chinese newspaper, it should be low cost flat (less than 50K) and low medium cost flat (less than 75K), ok.
the spring is medium cost apartment, not low medium cost flat.
Lim Guan Eng also mentioned most of the beneficiary will come from those under PDC development and housing scheme built on state land...The Spring is under IJM, ok.
It's over price!!!
Keep your money till June 2009.
Now cash is king.
Wise decision for all the Spring buyer. At least this project will not receive any stop order from government. Or else only pay for the bank interest also die, any don't know how long it going to be.
you have my support gwsc !
anyone can tell me (The Spring) Ferry view and dumb side view which 1 is better?
The Spring land still state goverment?or IJM land?
Sneaked into Spring ground level area just now. The finishings, layout and spaciousness are somewhat impressive for a medium cost apartment, surely a testimony of IJM workmanship. I hope the units themselves are up to par, unlike palm palladium. Wanted to get a unit there but the finishings especially the windows turned me off big time.
I have seen the common bathroom. It is really really nice and spacious.
Bila angkat o.c. thanks
today i got a confirmation. The Spring is leasehold. Its confirm. Please do not speculate anymore. Some ppl like us (unit owners) will be hoping for a lie which we want to think its true.
By the way, any of u guys know how much can we rent the place.. any market value speculation?
Long time ago we already know SPRING is leasedhold.
What we wanna know is BILA BOLEH DAPAT OC or VP ?. When can we get our keys!
When can we get our keys??end of Jan or March 2009??
The latest is end Jan or early Feb.
To get V.P, need around 11 department to approve + architect certification. Just be patient.
O.C. is collecting the approvals form those department, waiting for local council to issue a formal letter only. Normally 2/3 weeks after VP, will get OC oledy.
this is very unfortunate. For those who are into feng shui, right before CNY is normally the best time to "masuk rumah" as the prosperity is abundant for the new year. I guess IJM ppl dun really give a shit abt this.
Don't worry, eventhough it might be after CNY 2009, people still can "masuk rumah" before CNY 2010. So, feng shui should be still good.
yeah..considering so many projects abandoned, stop-work order, incomplete...Spring owners should thank themselves for being the lucky lot. Better late than sorry :P
yeah yeah, come Jan they will say OC in Feb. Come Feb then OC in March. Never ending story.
thats what happens when u deal with an overly competent developer like IJM. Gets 99% of the job done in a jiffy and leaves the 1% dragging a bit. What to do..they still have like 2 1/2 years to deliver rite..ha ha!
hw long we should wait??????????
By the time mass lay off kick start in Penang and Malaysia by next quarter, there're the time you got your VP & OC. Don't worry, just a few weeks to months right ahead, are you ready?
Last time one of the die hard supporter claimed wanna buy 2nd unit... Guess now you can buy more than that with the same budget. Lucky you!
Dun worry..if the economy turns for the worse, am sure the on-going, newly launched projects will be the first to suffer. Spring buyers who have locked in at a lower price in Q1 2008 would have a safe buffer against slower sub-sales in this challenging economy ( If they are selling, that is) After all, where can you get a newly completed and reputable RM300K condo in PG today?
Really? Refer back history, the housing nearby the heart of industry boom during good economy, and first to doom during bad time. If good time, 40-80% appreciation, like Baywater, or even the Spring if OC date back 6 months ago. Under construction project will take the hardest hit, but the risk exposure only limit to the developer bcs of slower to –ve sale momentum, but the price won't drop bcs purchaser not taking over the property yet (unless developer price soften, but this only happen on mainland). New project, if developer have insufficient sustain power, just hold back the launch, just look around you, it’s taking place. Secondary market get the hardest hit, especially those new project because lots of buyers are about start to serve their loan... during mass retrenchment and family income lost, the lost is minimum to just dump the unit... therefore fire sale take place. Moreover, speculator leave the market, real investor only seek for good bargain… That's how the industry works.
Fren, actually lower prices will benefit all SPRING buyers. This is because it will be very cheap for us buyers to do renovation. When prices of steel and cement are high, the cost of renovation will also be sky high. During downturn, it would be best to do renovation. Very cheap to also buy furniture.
By the way, if you are afraid of being jobless, that means you are not a smart person or key person in your company. Smart person are not afraid of recession or depression. Actually, it is a great opportunity to make lots of money during economy downturn. There are opportunities everywhere. All you have to do is just open your eyes. Be alert!
Do take this as a constructive criticism.
You are right, I'm not working, bcs i don't have to, i alredy "jobless" for long. My money and others work for me all these time, I’m out of rat race for long... And someone just about to start, good timing.
From your comment, I guess, just guess work ok, you still very junior in your work... during bad time and company cost cutting, top paid smart ass gone first.
Wanna give advice? As long as realistic and knowledgeable one, I don’t mind taking it. Thanks.
I have to agree. For those who are getting spring as a home, I think they were in for a really good deal for that price, notwithstanding any economic downturn. Cant recall seeing other projects of similar quality at that price range. While investors will find it more challenging given the economic scenario, holding on to a completed property with factored-in appreciation is much safer than holding delayed projects with projected paper profits.
Agree, real investor likely to hold, but speculator may not, even they would love to. Owner, especially for those 1st homer, depanding on wheather their income source still ever green.
Here, the weakest link theory applied. Like it or not, you could be the lucky one have sustaining power, but if just 5% of your neighbours are not, they set the benchmark and dragging down the ship. You don't need a big hole to get job done during storm.
Next week Pinang court 2 will get OC.
So when The Spring get OC????
next week Pinang Court 2 get OC. When The Spring can get its OC?
The Spring february take oc ! :)
Where u get this info??I check with IJM Sales but they also donno.Are you work for IJM??
If february 09 can't get, then gotta wait until June.
my friend told me this february can get oc:)
IJM sales person can't even promise when you'll get OC when you check with them. I wonder how those anonymous friends above know the date? Purely speculations.
-CKC-
maybe his friend is ijm director ?.
Happy New Year everyone!
2009 will be a great year with lots of opportunities for all THE SPRING buyers. Make every second of it count.
I rent a unit in Serina Bay, quite frequent, I see smokes of burning garbage came out from the Sampah place beside the Spring. I wonder if people stay in the Spring, will they smell the burning smoke everyday?? I took some photos of the smoke as well....
I think The Spring should change the name to
( The Smoke ) A hahahahaha!
Today I can see the smoke from butterworth.But I cant see The Spring from penang brige.
They put butterfly as their logo,I dont think the real butterfly will like there.
I think they celebrate a New Year. so they burn the (sampah kuat-kuat)...@_@
Again.. sour grapes who failed to get a good unit again at the bumi release trying to get a bargain by scaring the successful buyers into parting their units at a lower price. These twice losers should just get a life and maybe rent Serina Bay cos thats probably the nearest they can afford. We know its not fair, but too bad.
Ha Ha agree agree.. If the area's that bad..what are u doing renting Serina Bay which is near the Spring?
Sorry, people pay RM150k in Serina Bay to smell less smoke, but rich man from Spring paying RM300k+ to smell much more smoke. Well, you pay more, so you get more. :)
Put the Rolex beside Casio , Rolex still Rolex.Put the casio inside Omega shop,the Casio wont be Omega,still Casio.Nothing can compare.
Wah, u must be from a pathetic earning level of the society where buying a RM300K property is considered rich.. Wait, I am sorry.. u couldn't afford Serina Bay also rite? Just rent nia.. sad..
Dear Anonymous above, just learn to ignore all these naysayers. Their negative claims have been existent since April 2008. Same old story from the same poor individuals with too much time on their hands. Take away the anonymity feature in this blog and you can see there will be no more cowardly comments... :P
This is not a cowardly comments and why don't you identify yrself, before condemning others to remain anonymous.
The smoke incident is real, check out kwong wah jit poh, there was a burning at the dump site, causing the area full of smokes that day. Bomba also arrived to fight the burning, the air pollution is very bad, being the nearest apartment at dumpsite, The Spring is the most serious affected area, luckily no one stay in at the moment.
Of course, no one would like this incident happened, hopefully this is an isolated case, as the air pollution is at the worst when such thing happen, not only to The Spring but also the surrounding area, including Maccullum Street flats.
Yawn.. thanks for the breakthrough news. Hope u can tell us something that we DONT know.
One week of JAN 2009 gone! The million question is "Are we going to get OC by next three weeks ?"
V.P still not coming out. When can we get O.C?
according to IJM staff, VP will be ready by another 10 days -2 weeks, and then OC, before CNY.
If they are confident about the VP or OC date, they would have posted it themselves, not the anonymous purchaser on their behalf. Wake up!!
i drive through there and choking with smoke in my car... i hope u guys install air filter... ngek ngek ngek...
Please call IJM office if you wish to know more realistic timeline to get VP other than speculate blindly here. As far as i checked with IJM staff during Dec, they did not promise any timeline to get VP/OC. Just call them again to see if any latest news if you can't wait.
-CKC-
Hi Ivan,R u agent or buyer??what is your budget??
Wow, new photos! Thanks Loo.
At first I thought IJM will use the previous logo which is published on web. But seems it is changed to butterfly...
你们好，大家好。。。。
is that the finalized The Spring logo? Why is it different from the official logo in The Spring brochure? It looks like a total cheapskate toy! I am not aware of any project that put up a different logo as published in their brochure... can we do something about it?
这里有谁会华语？
Yes. I agree. I do prefer the logo in their brochure and not the butterfly. But I don't think there is anything we can do about it.
Of course official logo, if not, why do u think they put there.
maybe they put for decoration.After OC,we can change it...
Yeah.... maybe after OC they will also change the building design also. And also maybe after OC they will also change the location to beside tesco.
The logo looks stupid. Im getting more and more pisted off with IJM on how they handle The Spring.
First, we dont get to see a real show unit
second, we have to buy unit like begger, need to queue and so on
Then, delay of OC
and now with stupid logo. I dont know how bad its gonna be inside the building later.
As a buyer its disappointing. We are overpaying for a mid range apartment, so IJM..if you are reading this.. pls dont eat our money like this.
As someone above said, the logo gonna stick there forever..no changes man...
After OC, IJM will move the dumpsite and shit factory too.
Anyone know what is the maintenance fee for the spring?
hahahaha... wat the funny comment.. After get OC owner for the spring no need to do bbq bcoz every day got bbq there near spring.. Enjoy smoke at dumpsite ;p
Maintenance fee is only RM150 per mth.
After forming Joint Management Board, the management corporation has the right to change the logo, don't worry, we are protected under the common properties law, we are the owner after handover, so we have the right to change the logo, so long that resident agree.
Is the spring is having the intercom system
(what is it in picture 1, the latest picture taken by Mr Loo)
I went to the site just now and had a close look on the logo myself. I can't stop cursing IJM for doing such thing to The Spring after taking my 3xxK. Lets voice it up to IJM and see what is their "excuses". Nautilius, Bayswater and even OceanView is getting the exact logo as they expected. What the heck...
Dear Spring owners,
Rather than harping on the logo for the Spring (which I don't see what the big deal is), it would be great if we can channel our energy and conscience in pushing the state Government to do something positive about the landfill dumpsite which may benefit us more.
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2008/9/22/north/2086219&sec=north
Agreed buddy. If we make too much noise about the logo which is no big deal, our OC may be delayed even further.
Not sure if it is true but I heard it may be delayed to as late as June 2009. The Pinang court 2 OC has been delayed again!. Pls bear in mind that the Pinang Court 2 has been completed 4 mths earlier than SPRING. So if Pinang Court 2 can't get OC, I don't see how ours will.
wonder IJM submit the OC application individually for Desa Pinang 2, Pinang Court 2 and The Spring?
or all three projects are submitted for OC approval together?
but what can we do? can only shout here because it's now only 1 year into signing S&P. sien...
Actually, it is quite contradictory to put a butterfly there. IJM is aware of the dumpsite issue and now they are putting one butterfly there to cover this issue. Butterfly only exist in places with many flowers and jungles, not near the busy roadsides full of dust.
Well done IJM, good butterfly. Hahaha
The dumpsite has already been there for many years, to support the dumps of yours, yours parents, accentors and way beyond... Unless solutions found, please don't be so selfish to complain something serving you so long for the sake of your newly bought property sit right besides the dumpsite you used to contribute all these years. Thank you.
Hi all,
I'm a proud owner of a unit in The Spring as well.. My unit is TS-D1016. We will be neighbor in the future :)
Have a nice day...
Congrat Fisol, how much you bought it?
Mmmh... looks like we will not be getting our OC/VP before CNY. So far no letters from IJM. I really wonder what is making the delay.
I've call up IJM today and they ask me to banbantan for OC.IJM do not want to commitment on when to get OC.
Anyone know how can I get a extra car park??
rent
hi there
I am new to real estate investment. I find the sudden passion and looking forward for this. When buying property for investment, what would be the minimum down payment ? 10% 20% or 50% or more ???
Hi Yaw,You can find a real estate agent to advise on your property investment.Minimum 10% downpayment.
Hi Dave,
The car park is accesory parcel of our main title, you can't purchase separately, the only way is to rent or get another unit.
Loo Soon Huat you have one can rent to me?
Actually I'm more interest to buy 1. but if you want the rent it out i also can consider. How much??
Dave,
How long you want to rent it ?. 1 year or as long as you stay in SPRING?.
The normal rate is RM80 - RM100 per mth.
Ooi, Yes as long as I staying there.
Dave,
I am looking for around RM100/moth. Mine is at second floor, has direct access to lift. Anyway, it might be too early to make any decision. We can discuss after we get OC.
btw, today i saw the banner on The Spring, "OC Soon"!!!!!
Yes! I have received email from IJM staff to inform that the OC will be obtained end of Jan or Feb 09' That's get really to move in.
Dave, IJM still have units left, if you interested can contact IJM directly.
Ooi, you are really outdated la... Rental for car park now is between RM100 - RM160.
Sri Permai apartment at Free school road's car park rental is now RM140 per mth. So in demand until need to have balloting.
Hi,
Any news on the OC / VP ?. We r going into the second week of Feb 2009 very soon.
Desa Pinang already get their OC, our will be very soon.
ijm just reverted saying that they are in the final stage of getting VP whereby they need the fire dept to do their inspection but somehow, someway, somehow and someone along the line has been dragging their feet so we can only be expecting the VP by end Feb and OC by March. Sigh...
Hi Robin,
Ya, you get an unit at The Spring with this price range. Anyway, probably you can only get Type C & D.
Type A & B design are more famous & expensive! I believe the owner are probably spend about RM290K-RM300K (Include bank penalty & others expenses) to get a unit. I personally don’t think that Type A & B owner want to sell you with this price range...unless you are looking for type C & D which the design are not so good & the maste room windows are a little bit blocked by others unit...
(Above are mainly represent personal opinion, hope nobody “arguing” here…thank you!
Robin,
Just a word of advice. Do not purchase units facing the bridge. VERY HOT. From 12pm onwards, direct sunlight.
Where's the OC? It's almost March'09 ;) Yet no expected news from IJM.. *sigh*....
from my experience, we would all get our oc in June 2009.
It took 6 mths for the low cost to get OC. I don't see why would ours be any different. Regency Heights also took 6 mths to get OC.
The development plan of Bandar Sri Pinang has a Mosque in the center, means it is near to The Spring. Will it affect the value of the properties? (No prejudice to Muslim) Cos people worry traffic jam on Friday etc...
i thnk the spring is in trouble now. i heard some news about that they cannot build up a certain level due to structure issues.
also, the price should be coming down now.. summer place seems to be a better deal and high class (its a real condo, not like the spring)
House, Is ur statement correct? Where do you get to know that. I'm wondering why OC have yet to be obtain till now. Which suppose to be like last year :(
ah ha ha! some wisecracks always seem to know everything la. of course summer is different la.. u pay more for a pool, river mouth view and the company of a hundred low cost homes...
it may seem that IJM is deliberately delaying the OC issuance to boost the Summer sales. I think the owners have to collectively push for the issuance. The IJM management's excuse for delay since January i.e. resubmission of building plans to the state authorities has long expired and should be settled by now.
Rumors that "The spring" in involved in court case, hence having difficulty in getting OC. Believe it or not depend on you. Anyway, it's rumor until someone get the full proof from IJM management....
Let's all call up IJM tomorrow and find out the truth...!!!
HI, Mr. Ooi, what is the answer you get?
I also want to know.
Started to look for kitchen designer and get quotation, any recommendations?
Ever heard abt fotile hood and hob?
Went to a shop yesterday, and the boss said its good brand, I've googled, is leading brand from China. Any comment?
Dear Steve,
Answer regarding OC, u mean ?.
Well, I called them up. Same answer like last month and last year. "Maybe will get OC this month". If you ask next month, also same answer.
is it true that you guys in The Spring now kenot let go the unit cuz nobody wants them? and that the price is going down also? true answer pls..
house,
there are many interested buyers but cannot be transacted yet due to no OC. As for the price, its obvious you havent done yur homework. IJM property prices never go south.
Be more diligent and shop around. Am sure you can get the sub-sale at a good price.
anybody can share with me....
yesterday i received letter from ijm demand a payment for interst on late payment.
i sign the S&P in decemmber and they request the payment in february, my bank only managed to release the loan in mac..
do they expect the loan release 2 month from the s&p. crazy and the interest charge also ridiculous high at 10%. even the s&P lawyer(IJM lawyer) took 2 week to finalise the S&P. than after that i can apply for a loan which took 1 week for approval and issuan of LOF. than lawyer only have 1 month to release the loan.... i think the time frame given is tooo short.
can i request for waiver or something for the interest charge.....
Hi Zul, sorry to hear about that. Previous experiences/feedback is that the interest will not be waived. You can try to write in officially to them for consideration though.
hi house, the spring rode on the wave of past IJM triumphs... but now faced with 2 concerns i.e. of abundance (esp. with new stock from summer place) & that of location (locally driven demand but many locals are with factories that are shaken in this downturn). anyway, i do hope spring investors can do well with their units though as the jelutong enclave continues to grow.
Dear Spring Owners,
I have initiated a meeting up session with our Jelutong MP to discuss on the dumpsite issue. The meeting will probably be held next Friday March 27th, 10am at the KOMTAR office on the 28th Floor.
Jeff noted that it would be great if you guys can turn up in full force to support the cause. The more the better! With our OC issuance coming soon, lets work together and try to solve this long outstanding environmental issue.
Feel free to share this invite to all your friends who live among the other condos / apartments along the expressway near the dumpsite. I am sure it affects them too hence their support matters greatly as well.
Thanks and looking forward to see you there!
fren,
pls also ask Mr. Jeff when we can get our OC. It is long over due.
Loo,
Go make some time and come along so we can ask him together on the OC issue. Thanks.
Dear fren,
Is the time, date and venue confirmed ?. I need to apply for leave in order to attend the meeting.
Hi Cereal Killa,
Is the date and time confirmed? i would like to join in this discussion with Jeff as well.
Please count me in.
If you've started an email circular, please include me as well.
my email is ciplak_me@yahoo.com
thanks
Hi Cereal Killa,
Will be interested in joining this Friday 27th @ 10am. Is this time & venue confirmed? Or subject to change. If you did start an email circular pls email me as well at eowsulin@gmail.com
thanks.
Pls also count me in. My email is lsoonhuat@gmail.com
Hi all, I'm very interested in The Spring and I like many things about it...the location, built quality, sea view, 2 carpark etc. I know the cons of this property and I can live with most of them (leasehold, school next to it, mosque nearby, pasar malam, built on reclaimed land and possibly could crack etc.) but there's only one thing that's really bothering me, without which I'd have no headache deciding whether or not to purchase a unit there. I'm sure all owners of the Spring know about the burning issue from the dumpsite nearby and it's been talked about a lot in this blog. I've been there three times to survey the area and 2 out of the 3 (maybe it was purely coincidental), the air there was kinda hazy with burning smell. I'm wondering, how do the existing owners get over this and psyche yourself up to accept this problem when you start to live in there? Do you plan to install air purifiers in your homes? have your windows and doors closed when there's burning activities? or you don't want to think about it because you've already bought it and you don't want to feel bad with your purchase? or you think that after a while you'll get used to the smell (even then, it may be hazardous to the health right)? or maybe, (which is something I really like to hear) you know that the government will forbid open space burning soon (btw, isn't open burning illegal??). I really hope there's someone who can convince me that it's not such a big deal (probably the dumpsite will be converted to a park soon or the burning only occurs once a month etc) because I really like the place. I'm also looking at Times Square but I still prefer the Spring because I am concerned with the traffic and life span of the Times Square Mall. Appreciate your valuable input. Pls don't blast me for bringing this topic up again. This will be my first time purchasing a property to stay in and I want to make sure as much as I could that I make a good decision that I won't regret later. Thank you!
Dear Lee,
Your sentiments are felt by us totally. As existing owners of the Spring (pending OC), we are also of the opinion that the dumpsite is a true nuisance and definitely has to be relocated in tandem with the rapid development along the Expressway. If you were to notice, the burning rubbish smoke and smell not only affects the Spring, but is also within striking distance of the Summer, Ocean View and also Majestic Heights depending on the direction and strength of the wind.
Since the dumpsite is of grave concern to you, we would appreciate if you can turn up this Friday to support our cause.
Ciplak, Sulin and Loo : The meeting has been confirmed by Jeff yesterday. I will circulate an email soon. Thanks for the support.
Dear all Spring owner,
Any idea when can we get the OC?
Good news....we will get oc by end of this week.
Hi Chin Eng,
Where you get the info? From IJM staff? They keep on delaying since December...can we still believe them this time?
Is it True to get OC by end of this week?We should get VP and collect our key first then 2 weeks later will get OC.
Hi Chin Eng,
May I know how did you know that we will get The Spring OC by end of this week, please?
I called up IJM office at 4.25 pm and Mr. Ong Yew Sun said that The Spring is still pending for council's approval.
Hi Andrea,
This is the answer I got from IJM when I call them up last week..I'm wondering the news that "we can get OC by this week" as well.
Hi Chin Eng,
Waiting for your update.
I think chin eng is dreaming... Don't listen to him. From my experience, we will only get oc in june.
ya kah? Mana dapat this news? True or not?
I'm agree with Andrea and Loo...
Dear Spring Owners,
Mr. Ong said that IJM management had resubmit their proposal to the council recently and will not be able to know the updates till next month.
Hi Chin Eng,
It seems that this is the second time you give all The Spring Owners false alarm information...haha.
Hi Zul,
Is your S&P lawyer same as your loan lawyer? If it's the same lawyer, then you ask your lawyer to settle that for you. You insist that you will not bare it.
It happened once to me last time. I managed to get it waive as I used the same lawyer for both S&P and Loan, so the lawyer will have to do whatever he/she can to ask IJM to waive it for me. So, do discuss that with your lawyer.
If not mistaken, I heard news that IJM has has applied and certified that Form E (Article 25 of the Uniform Building By-law 1984) has been sent to the local authority for the issuance of a Certificate of Fitness for occupancy purposes.
Means Vp date = Form E submission date. Chin Eng'news could be true, but wait la, maybe sumthing happen in between or the news is false 1. : )
I really really hope chin eng is correct. My sales person says that ijm is having a meeting this week (not sure what day) to discuss about the oc.
hi all, i didn't follow the news on the spring. is there a problem with the spring in getting oc? what's the problem then?
Dear JS,
Pls call IJM for further details. Only IJM can provide you the answer.
There would be same answer as last month & last year from IJM.
Ijm project all good selling project but the problem is to get OC, keep delay n delay.. But ppl outside still excited when ijm launch their project..Bayswater is the best..
Those first time buyer will not know. Now i know the feeling as the OC has been delaying for so long already. Fingers crossed...
Hi to all,
Hope to see you guys this Friday(27th) @ Komtar Level 28. Do come to support.
Damn disappointed with IJM effort in getting the OC & dissatisfy with their services after sale.
Hi Su Lin,
How about if we are not able to make it? Can anyone of you share with us after the meeting?
Hi all,
We(buyers) have been paying interests to the bank right now, i wonder if we are able to claim that back from the developer(IJM)? What is the process and please advice further on doing so.. appreciate your feedback and sharings.
thanks.
fisol
Fellow Spring-ers,
Flyers have been distributed to residents of Ocean View, Mutiara Heights & Mutiara Idaman via their respective mgmt offices, regarding this Fri's mtg with Jeff Ooi at Komtar 28th floor, 10am.
From initial feedbacks of their mgmt office staff, it seems residents have been biting their teeth having to put up with the dumpsite nuisance for quite sometime now, with no promised solution in sight.
Thus, a sizeable group coud turn up at Komtar this Fri. Pls make urself available to lend majority support in pressing MPPP (Level 3) to address this dumpsite once & for all.
Regards,
Future level-16 resident
Fisol, can we do that? pls share with m e if you have further info.
Hi Justin, i'm not sure.. that's why i'm asking about it.. Perhaps we can refer to any experts on this areas.. As far as i'm concern, there is a term in our S&P saying that :
QUOTE :
Vacant possession of the said parcel shall be delivered to the purchaser in manner stipulated in clause 26 within 36 calendar months from the date of this agreement. blaa blaa.. bla...
Clause 26 is about issuance of cert of completion and compliance .. bla bla bla.. conformity with approved plans, requirement of streets, drainage, & building Act 1974..
So,.. I had chit chat with few ppl they say we can do so, we should not bare the cost of IJM conformity problems for OC and ended up we are paying bank interests.. what's your thoughts?
Hi Fisol,
On what ground you want to claim bank interest from banks? Just wonder.
Hi Fisol,
"within 36 calendar months from the date of this agreement"...Now less than 1 year right? By the way, if we need to do so, we had better read the S&P carefully.
I heard from my friend that we can actually sue IJM by saying that OC delay but I don't think we can get any compensation since S&P didn't stated anything.
Come on S&P stated, 36 months. You think you can sue now? Bank interest is between purchaser with the banker. Nothing to do with the developer, unless like the ONE where developer willing to bear the loan interest. Otherwise, you will be just serving the loan interest like me. What to do, we are not buying a completed property.
Is that any duration given from S&P to OC?
From our S&P,We will get VP and collect key after 36month,then 2 week later will get OC.If developer fail to give us VP after 36month,then we can claim 10%/annum on our buy price.just my 2 cents thought..
IJM have the right to give VP by 2011 as the S&P only signed in 2008.
just called IJM. The answer is "oc maybe next month". I think this will be continued until end of the year. Never ending story.................
Gosh!why IJM keep delay our OC without any valid reason?If cannot commit to get OC then dont told us will get from Jan'09 then postponed until now.i need to move out from my current house as rental contract will end in May.How???
Dear P,
Call IJM up and ask them why...!!! Give them some pressure. We need to all work together so that our voices will be heard.
Some time delay in VP or OC is not developer fault.
I don't think they will benefitted from the delay, average selling price = RM270,000 @ 25% (exclude 5% retention sum, which will in the hand of solicitor until end of defect liability period) @ 350 units = RM23.6 million. I think they also want to receive the money, since they have incurred the cost from their own pocket.
Fellow Spring-ers,
To those who tried attending this morning's (Fri) mtg with Jeff Ooi to discuss resolutions in dealing with the dumpsite, I guess u guys probably got put off with the 'coincidental' fire drill affecting the entire Komtar premise from 915-11am. (Just another example of MPPP going great lengths to thwart our dumpsite efforts perhaps?:))
Regardless, 3 of us managed to discuss with Jeff on the following urgent matters:
1. VP for Spring is CONFIRMED signed & issued. OC to be followed up very, very soon as the previous signatory council head retired in early March (typical reason for draggy govt approvals). There was also a firm confirmation from IJM engr staff regarding issues with architectural drawing submission approval (the basement gym & sauna layout were missing!)
2. Since there's no JMC/JMB/mgmt office for Spring yet, we need to craft a specially advocated letter (representing all residents) to vent our displeasure, deep concerns & collective wish to have the dumpsite permanently shut down. This would be a great 1st step before proceeding with subsequent plans for public park conversion, etc..
Such letter will also be submitted to mgmt offices of Ocean View, Majestic Heights/Idaman & Serina Bay (upcoming?) to gather further majority support & vocal might.
Ciplak, Cereal Killa & myself will be handling this, as well as future correspondence with Jeff, his team & MPPP. Of course, anyone who wishes to assist in our noble cause (DOE reports, water quality contam data, smoke readings, etc) can post up their contact & email in this blogspot.
We'll get in touch promptly
spinnaker
Dear Yung,
I am confused. You said that VP have been confirmed, signed and issued for SPRING. How come IJM did not issue us a letter asking us to collect our keys?. I thought with VP we are allowed to visit our units and the warranty period starts on the date of VP ? Pls advice.
P/S:- I am new to this. So, pls bear with me. By the way, very sorry I could not attend the meeting this morning. Very difficult to get leave. Anyway, for future meetings, would appreciate it if they are held on weekends.
Hi Yung,
I agreed with Ooi. How come IJM never inform us since we are the owner. I believed many people has callled to IJM(included myself) request the update but they never tell us about this. Would you please advise further? Thanks.
Hi Yung,
I am also confused. If VP has been approved, then we shld able to get our key. OC will be obtained 2 weeks after VP. But still no news from IJM as of today.
From your statement above, since VP has been signed & approved. Am i right to say that we will get our OC within 2 weeks?
Pls share any info with me. Thanks.
Dear all,
Its obvious from the above comments that many are more concerned of the VP / OC rather than the main intention we are meeting up with Jeff, which is the dumpsite.
While I understand that the VP/OC delay is beginning to ruffle some feathers, it would be good and heartening if your collective concerns could be directed to the dumpsite issue instead. We are talking about an environmental hazard which may pose a serious threat to our project for the years to come. Pressing the state government to close the site may take time and rehabilitating it may take even longer. But we need to start somewhere and until thats done, getting an OC wouldnt mean much if we as tax payers are deprived off our rights to live in a healthy and environmental friendly vicinity.
Adding a bit to what Yung has mentioned - the VP confirmation came from Jeff after he made some checks with the state departments. He informed that he will look into the matter for us but also stressed that collective effort to settle the dumpsite is of the utmost priority.
All
We need to review regarding the Fence design with IJM. Today at ~7pm when I pass by the Spring, I saw 5-7 wild dogs get through the Fences' Gap and running around the car park.
I doubt IJM would want to change the fence for us. Anyway, we could change it ourselves when a committee has been setup and when we have the spare money. OR maybe the cheapest way is to just fill up the gaps with bricks. :-)
David,
Totally agree on the 'dog going thru fence' issue. I thought IJM is gonna build a hedge or something? Would be great if we can post a pic of the dogs in action and also cc a copy to the management office. Can somebody here in PG do it? Am based outstation...
hi all Spring-ster,
apart from a handful of ppl here who've shown concern over the dumpsite issue, how about the rest?
we've initiated contact with Jeff Ooi over this matter last Friday and we just need concerted and focused effort to drive this home...
please "walk-the-talk" and send anyone of us an email so that we can start the ball rolling.. it doesnt take much of your time and we're not anti-establishment as we're all the new stakeholder of this area...
as mentioned by Yung, the next course of action would be to draft an official letter to be presented (as stakeholder and tax-payer of this land) to Jeff Ooi so that he can handle it from his end.
so, do address all yor concerns so that we can include it in the letter and at the same time, confirming your participation in this initiative..
so don't be a NATO and only blog from the comfort of your home/office...
email to anyone of us now...
Hello Spring-lover..
I think tht Mr Jeff Ooi probably should be more concentrate on other task..
Such as to bring in more investor and regenerate penang Economic.. rather than this hanky-panky issue..
Beside, if he really want to lay his hand, he should put priority in the JAM at Jln Batu Lancang.. as more ppl would be glad if goverment able to settle off the HEAVY JAM issue..
Pls do note tht Farlim and Batu Lancang headcount will be larger than the SPRING buyer..
Lastly, you all should drove this issue to the IJM itself.. moreover this is IJM land and property.. you all pay so much for this property.. RM 250K above just for 9++ sqft..
Beside, you all also notice tht there already hv this dumpside before do any booking.. right..
Dont be too selfish..
Mr Jeff Ooi will not misjudge at this issue.. RIGHT..?? or Mr Jeff Ooi also one of the buyer.. or supporter for the rich IJM group..
Hi Ciplak
You can contact through koo.david8@gmail.com
I'll support the dumpsite issued. other then this we also need to write the letter to IJM managment to complain the fence gap.
Regards
Dear RRR,
Its obvious that you, sitting in front of your PC just giving senseless comments on what Jeff should or should not do is defintely uncalled for.
Jeff is willing to help people that help themselves, especially if its within his constituency and its a long prevailing environmental issue.I bet you have no idea that all the Island's rubbish, including your Air Itam rubbish ended in that dumpsite for the past 30 years huh?
As you can see, we are taking proactive steps to make our place a better place to live and also towards the ecological system of the whole Jelutong area and also the Island. If Air Itam ppl wont do the same, then I guess they will have to live with the jam, which is obvious to us that you are also one of the poor buggers cursing every morning in the jam.
It also amuses me on how you are affected by how IJM prices its properties. Your complain can only mean you cant afford one. Our sympathies for you. And for the record, the dumpsite is a non-gazetted state land which does not belong to IJM. Again, it really shows how shallow your understanding of the issue is.
And dragging Jeff into an accusation that he is a Spring buyer or IJM supporter.. RRR, you have hit rock bottom.
The next time you give some comments here, suggest you give it some sense. If not you are beginning to sound like a dumpsite..FULL OF RUBBISH.
Agreed with Cereal Killa. Some people just complain and do nothing.
Let's just get together and resolve the dumpsite issue.
RRR if you wish do resolve the jam at Batu Lanchang issue, you can find out who the MP is for the Batu Lanchang and you can get together and complain to the MP for Batu Lanchang area. I'm sure that are many others who face the same problem. Otherwise still will be same problem an no point to complain.
Dear Spring buyers,
The dedicated dump site and the waste water treatment plant across the road has served all penangites in the island for many years. If you think of any other places in Island that is available to be the dump site WITHOUT having any objections from the people, please suggest one. The spring is no where to be seen when the dump site started the operation. Well, just because a few of you who will move in into your brand new apartment do not like the dump site & complain, the state government will panic and start looking a new place in Georgetown, or Bayan Lepas or Sungai Ara so that your apartment has a better resale value? Do you think that easy? Or may be using the truck to transport all the rubbish including those generated by The Spring across the bridge and dump at Bukit Minyak or Butterworth? The Dumpsite is already in the equation when you consider to buy The Spring. Why complain now
Actually, there is a proposal for Jelutong to have a 20ha people’s park complete with an amphitheatre, sports courts, jogging tracks and other leisure facilities in the future.
Jelutong MP Jeff Ooi, who is mooting the proposal, said the current landfill site along the coastline near the Jelutong Expressway promenade could be turned into the park.
Ooi said the landfill, which is currently handled by the Penang Municipal Council, has exceeded its capacity.
The landfill site, which is overfilled for 30 years, has exceeded its capacity.
“Jelutong has been the island’s ‘excretion point’ for the past 30 years and something has to be done to modernise this place.
“The landfill site is a wind trap area and it is an ideal place to hold international-level kite flying competitions,” he said.
He said under the Penang state structural plan, development of any type of building was not allowed on the land.
Any way, this is not happening at the nearest future. Going forward, it may take quite long even if this is approved because currently the dumpsite serves the island. Any suggestion for a place to relocate? Georgetown, or Bayan Lepas or Tanjung Bungah?
I am sure The Spring buyers already factored in the Dumpsite and the waste water treatment plant into the equation when they decided to buy The Spring. You know there is a dumpsite when you buy The Spring.
About the dump site and the waste water treatment plant, did any buyer of The Spring check with IJM? I think IJM si the one who need to take initiative to try to relocated them. What is IJM's answer?
Hi Professional Engineer,
by the nickname I would have assumed that you will have the credibility to comment as one. looks like I was sorely mistaken.. do u know that there's one dumpsite at Bayan Lepas and one more at Pulau Burung as of now?
and if we're talking about waste water treatment, there's one major facility near PSDC and few minor ones scattered all around newly established neighbourhood... bet u decided to pen yr comment here just for the sake of commenting right? really smart!!
at least comments from "YES" did have the plus & minus points which we can consider and move forward...
I won't even want to comment on the entry by Mr Business cos obviously it’s an entry "built" on top of another people's comment...
in any case, current dumpsite near The Spring is solely for construction waste hence the continuous stream of trucks going to and fro from the site up till now..
Jeff did say that to find alternative locations will be difficult but there are possible solutions too..
to the rest who're interested to join this initiative, please drop anyone of us an email.. I’ve received some emails as of today and will be replying soon... thanks
Dear Professional Buyer,
We understand your nostalgic bond with the dumpsite. Again, if you would have bothered to attend the meeting with Jeff or read through carefully our previous posts, maybe you will look less uninformed as you are right now.
The dumpsite issue has been in existence over the past 5-7 years, even before the launch of the Spring. It has exceeded its capacity and until now, it has encroached nearly 100m into the sea and leaking leachate and occasional methane gas (hence the dumpsite fire on Jan 2, 2009) This environmental concern by itself is a main and valid reason to shut the dumpsite down.
For your info, the dumpsite issue has been highlighted by Jeff several times in his blogs as well as Chinese dailies and the Star way before our initiative came into the picture. As Spring owners, I dont see the hoo-haa of starting such a protest especially when it means making yur place a better place to live and also saving the Jel. Expressway environment. Its only selfish ppl that wouldn't care much about others that would sit around and do nothing.
We acknowledge that the scarcity of land in Penang makes it difficult to get a replacement dumpsite. But our intention is not to find a replacement, but to make sure the State council wake up and ensure something is done. How they do it and where they do it is none of our problem. We voted them into power right? give us an answer!
Lets be more open and constructive about this issue. If changes need to happen for a good reason, let champion for it, keeping the big picture in mind.
wah... no initiatives taken no one bising.. some efforts taken, so many ppl jump up and down..
i also agree lar..de dumpsite should be closed lah. getting bigger by the day and looks uncontrolled.
The dump site location is the best location for waste disposal available for the island. It is in parallel with the Jelutong Expressway and no residential areas around the place. It is not a proper place to built homes near to it. It is againts the EIA if they care to have one. Some how, It happened.
The dump site is going to stay there because the island needs the dump site. Many property speculators who bought many units of The Spring hoping to strike a fortune by selling them at a premium are stucked with their units. No one is asking for the unit. Some could not even sell although offering at purchase price. With The Summer Place coming up and the location which is much better without having to face the hazardous dump site and Waste Water Treatment Plant, it it just difficult for the property speculators.
It is not about dollar and sen per se. It is about your family health and well being. It is just morally not right for a developer to built a home near to a hazardous place like this one.
The developer played the cards well and couple with limited choices of property offer, this happens. Too bad
One more thing.
Politician is always politician. It is just politically not right to tell the voters like you all what you did not want to hear.It is Standard to give hope and side with the constituents although it is different all together in the total strategy of state administration. An empty place will be quite impossible in the Island without the developers like Ivory or Plenitude saliva them for housing development.
To turn the expensive and valueable empty land as a new dumpsite is actually something if they can delay for until 2013, i think politically they will do.
Dear friends,
We will be getting our keys within the next 2 weeks (confirmed by my sales person). VP confirmed got already just like what Yung said. Do call up your sales person if you don't believe me :-) Once beaten twice shy. Like the shepherd boy and the wolf story.
Soon we will be going all out full force to change the dump site. Once OC is obtained, it will be very much easier for us to meet up and plan things.
Yes,
In tandem with development, things have to change. So does your way of thought.
Although I live further away in PErak Road area, the Jelutong Expressway is an upcoming township. Its rather selfish by claiming the dumpsite affects only the Spring just because other projects do not voice out their concerns. If you argue on historical timeline on who came first, is the dumpsite fair for the fishermen and boat builders who were there 50 years ago along the coastline before the dumpsite was even initiated?
Its true the Spring was purchased with knowledge about the dumpsite. But that doesn't mean the owners would take things lying down right? After all, its taxpayers money!
Are you saying if Majestic Heights residents complain about leaking of leachate or over capacity 2-3 years ago, so u are gonna blame them also for buying so near the dumpsite...right?
As much as you and I need the dumpsite, lets not be overwhelmed by the nostalgia that it served your fathers and your forefathers. Moving on with time, we have to face the fact that it is overcapacity and something has to be done. Put some of your self-centered attitude aside and I believe you would would have done the same if the dumpsite was in yur area, regardless on who came first.
I think Ciplak and his gang would welcome constructive criticism and discussions. So lets be more matured and open rather than criticizing brazenly and dragging politics into the matter. May it be PKR or Barisan, I am sure they would still pursue the issue.
those who bought the Spring last time, good luck to you all because there are some 60% of the buyers like you also wanted to sell. Because they buy for sub-sales pure speculators only.
Joanna,
This this will be good as i am going to buy it.
No matter we speculate or not, what people want is the house & stay over there....hehe. For those can hold the property during this period can also earn money after the economy recover, somehow with low interest rate for holding it.
Joaana,
it doesnt matter whether there r a lot of seller or not as long as there are buyers...
Good. the less people staying, the lesser the density.
to cereal killer/ciplak/yung please add my mail for the dumpsite issue ... zulmlm@yahoo.com
I am not selling and i am looking forward to move in. Was it another loser who can't get a unit? Since so many reseller, just buy from them. LOL.
In addition, ppl got money mah. They can do what ever they like.Buy 20 units for fun also not an issue. Why we going to bother....haih. Though i got little money and oni afford 1 unit. But i am glad that i got my own house. Again, appreciate and welcome constructive comments. Those crappy comments please leave if for your own.
buy buy buy or sell sell sell... I don't care. I am very happy that I have got a unit in SPRING. Now what I care most is when can we get our OC and the upgrade of the dump site. We should upgrade it to a more high tech and more environmentally friendly one if the dump site can't be relocated. A high tech one may even generate revenue for the state.
Wei... when can we get our OC ??. I have waited for years to stay in SPRING. What's keeping the delay ??. When can we go in to see our units ???. When ??? Pls.... make it be soon... pls...
Ha..ha..up to date some ppl still like to complain a lot. why they so bother and so worry about this. that is nothing related to them ."May they want to release the tension on lunching time long Q the end can't get the unit".... that is right as Ooi said less ppl less density...I also waiitng to move in...
Joanna,
Shame on you... Looks like you are a property agent for surin. It's not professional of you to talk bad about projects without any facts and then promote surin.
Anyway if I want to buy surin condo, I won't buy it from u because u are not honest!.