The Spring

The Spring condominium located along the Jelutong Expressway that gives a panoramic view of the Penang Bridge. The concept of the project is modern contemporary and emphasizing on its Tropical Garden features.

The Spring Condominium comprises 396 condominium units in total. The built up area ranging from 925 to 1,281 sq.ft.

Property Project : The Spring Condominium
Location : Georgetown, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
Total Units : 396
Built-up Area : approx. 925 - 1,281 sq.ft.
Developer : IJM Properties Sdn Bhd

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August 5, 2008 at 5:52 PMAnonymous: can someone email me the softcopy of floor plan for type E?
kingtang80@gmail.com
August 6, 2008 at 11:03 AMAnonymous: Hi all,

Anybody's loan is not released to developer yet?

~ Amy ~
August 6, 2008 at 8:30 PMAnonymous: hi amy,
i've settled all the bank matter on the 1st.. jz sms-ed my banker today asking about the loan.. he hasn't replied my sms yet..perhaps he's still checking on the status...

how bout u chin eng?

-ciplak @ C14-
August 6, 2008 at 10:31 PMAnonymous: Halo,

Mine all settled. Bank already released my loan to IJM. pheww.. finally.

BUT have not gotten my copy of Loan agreement from the lawyer yet.

~Chin Eng~
August 8, 2008 at 10:51 PMAnonymous: Hi Chin Eng & Amy,
mine released as well.. already received letter from my bank asking me to start paying one month from the date stamped on the letter.. which means that i will start paying my loan from next month onwards.. :-(

-ciplak @ C14-
August 11, 2008 at 10:48 AMAnonymous: Well, I think all of us are waiting anxiously for OC eh ? The days seems to be so slow... :-)

bi lien
August 11, 2008 at 11:49 AMAnonymous: wow 3am,

Nice view..!!!

Thanks man.

~Chin Eng~
August 11, 2008 at 3:59 PMAnonymous: hi chin eng:

What type do you buy?

~~Calvin~~
August 11, 2008 at 4:46 PMAnonymous: Type C lor... Not much choice already ma... I wanted Type B but too late. :-(

~Chin Eng~
August 12, 2008 at 4:47 PMAnonymous: i think type B is better than type C. besides it is the widest(947sq ft) the layout is nicer. if u really look type B's living hall and kitchen is wider than type C.. whereas type C got wider space for it rooms..if u've been to the spring itself, type C living hall looks smaller than in the plan.. some more type c's master bedroom view is blocked by type A..type A & D is 925 sqft ... so i guess among A,B,C & D , type B is worth buying and will get better ROI.

- springstalker
August 12, 2008 at 6:59 PMAnonymous: not to compare but u guys do realise that type A is slightly more expensive and were snapped up fastest during the launch right? i think its because of its nearer proximity to the sea without view being blocked. i tried scrambling for a unit but finished so i got a type b instead.
August 12, 2008 at 9:15 PMAnonymous: actually all types have own better point. For type C unit, i will say is the one having widest viewing angle balcony.For type A, pay more to close to Sea but far away from carpark. As long as can get sea view, same same nia la...:P

~3am~
August 12, 2008 at 9:40 PMAnonymous: hi all,
so can we list The Spring owner & their home type now?

Ciplak = C-type
Chin Eng = C-type
Andrea = A-type
Bi Lien?
3am?
Calvin?
Amy?
and so on....

there's lack of input for the time being cos everyone is waiting for the OC day..then we can meet up d..yay!!

-ciplak @ C14-
August 12, 2008 at 10:26 PMAnonymous: just to check where yur carparks are? I am A-type 15th Floor. Mt car park is surface lot..what abt u guys?
August 12, 2008 at 11:37 PMAnonymous: Those investors who think can cook up the property price. Beware!
Property market is overheated now!
You may assume property price rocket sky high now, but pls ask the real estate agency around you in Penang, how many sales they have made during the past few months. If there is no demand, price will be drop very soon.

http://apartment-penang.blogspot.com/2008/08/property-prices-on-downward-trend.html
August 13, 2008 at 8:54 AMAnonymous: prices will drop, but only slightly. I am not selling u knoe.
August 13, 2008 at 9:21 AMAnonymous: hi all:
I am type D.

~~Calvin~~
August 13, 2008 at 11:16 AMAnonymous: 'property prices on downward trend' - it only applies in klang valley ..but if u talking bout property on the island, it never goes down. please compare it with singapore or hongkong, not klang valley.

furthermore i beleive most of the spring buyers like chin eng, ciplak, andrea, 3am and many others bought it for their own stay, at least in the first five years.

after five years, the house price will further appreciated given the fact that :

1. the spring develop in the new development area. new devlopment along the JE (ie : the summer place, promenede & the light) will attract more people to buy property here.

2. other area will be pretty congested in another 5 years .ie : platino-bayswater , putra place-putra marine, iregency-university place, & not to mention palm palladium with its gelugor traffic , d piazza with its bukit gedong traffic, the worth will be penang time square (unless u work in KOMTAR where the walking distance will be very convinient).

- springstalker
August 13, 2008 at 11:28 AMAnonymous: type b

bi lien
August 13, 2008 at 12:24 PMAnonymous: Hi

I am in Type E. Count me in if you guys have a gathering or something like that.

Shana
August 13, 2008 at 1:03 PMAnonymous: TO springtalker,

You forgot to mention, the spring near dumbsite
August 13, 2008 at 1:25 PMAnonymous: Just fact sharing: When I dropped by the water front opposite the Nautilus Bay, I was surprised to notice there're annoying smell of the mud, not as severe as Georgetown, but still obvious (around 12pm noon time). When looked at the rock retaining wall, very "black" cover with mud. For high rise may less obvious, but for the landed property there, could be annoying at first. In comparison to the beach at Queenbay and Seri-Tanjung Pinang, this doesn’t happen, whereby Bayan Mutiara and Gold Coast area are with sandy beach. Of course, that brings lots of none-value added visitors and “business opportunity” there.

Wondering if the Pusat Pendaratan Ikan right opposite the Spring will cause any unwelcoming odor when in operation. However, they look pretty modern, in comparison to those in Georgetown, which smell really disgusting.
August 13, 2008 at 2:28 PMAnonymous: ai ya... y start again... all things have positive and negative point of view. you have got to weight them yourself. we bought because we weight that the positive is much much greater than negative points.

It does not matter whether the price of this condo goes up or down. I wanna stay here for a long time, enjoy myself and relax and start a family.

cheers mate.

~Chin Eng~
August 13, 2008 at 5:15 PMAnonymous: Nothing perfect in this world, cons and pros mah.Even yourself couldn't get a perfect enviroment stay in penang la as everywhere get air/noise polluted by transport unless you stay in hutan lo.
August 13, 2008 at 5:51 PMAnonymous: here is some points to counter the spring nay-sayers.

1. the spring near the dumpsite :
the dumpsite near the spring will turn into recreational park in near future as it is approaching its limit.

2. muddy and smelly shoreline :
as many parts of penang island is surrounding by marine clay (except some part in the northen of the island which has sandy beach), there is nothing the developer can do unless they want to spend substantial amount of $$ for the beach nourishment which is very unlikely. nevertheless, the stone revetment has improve the aesthetic value along the shore line.
about the claim that the beach is smelly, i dont think so, as i've been there countless time during both low and high tide. gurney drive also have the same beach condition but that doesnt deter people to come enjoying the sea breeze.

3. leasehold
hey look, does anybody live 99 years (unless you are some old japanese folk who eats raw fish and vegetable for life).
what will happen to your freehold property in the next fifty years. would it be outdated in term of design. even conventional design which was built last 10 years look outdated nowadays. u r lucky enuff if it will not be torn down like Pekeliling flat (not even 40 years).

4. pusat pendaratan ikan.
great mah . dont have to go tesco to buy some stale fish.

- springstalker
August 13, 2008 at 5:51 PMAnonymous: hutan also got malaria and dengue. :-)
August 13, 2008 at 5:54 PMAnonymous: I visit that place regularly at least 3 times per week.i didnt smell anything. i just enjoy the view and the sea wind.what i can obvious see is the condition is much better than gurney.
August 13, 2008 at 7:34 PMAnonymous: dear spring owners,

you guys should be familiar by now that sour grapes do drop by once in a while, trying their best to criticise the project so they can scare you and hope to buy it at a lower price. Just ignore them la...

As for the shoreline, you do realise the water there is clearer than gurney? go check it out yourselves!

And finally, do pride yourselves for being able to purchase the ONLY sea-front project (< 100m from the waterfront that is) in Malaysia for less than RM300K! Can u tell me where you can get any similar project now in Malaysia for this price range?
August 13, 2008 at 8:31 PMAnonymous: when there're different point of view , we are labeled sour grapes. Seem like we are very much alike our government, only welcoming "yes man". Well, those already "immersed" in this may defend their investment by whatever mean, but prospect buyers are open minded and will not follow blindly.
August 13, 2008 at 9:10 PMAnonymous: to those who still interested in buying the spring first hand need not to worry..last few weeks i visited IJM, there are still few bumi unit left (about 15 i guess). current type ABCD average price is now at 285k. and the salesman said the price will increase 10% when they open for nonbumi in september, and another 10% when OC is obtained...so it will become RM313,500 by september & RM344,850 by february..maybe if the demand is high they will use ballot box system...other option buy from subsale ranging from 320k-350k..if u think this property is not worth it, dont borther to buy..

-springstalker
August 13, 2008 at 9:54 PMAnonymous: to the anonymous who labelled himself/herself as "naysayer",

appreciate your feedback eventhough those are negative ones. however, just put a stop on all this alright?

a bunch of us (regular bloggers) bought this place for our own stay & not for investment purpose. we've obviously weighed all the facts before we paid for the house..

if you want to go against the "flow" jz to downgrade the property price either for good or ulterior motives whatsoever, then do it somewhere else..

if u happen to read thru some of recent entries, it involves renovation, loan and etc... so that itself should be clear enough..

nuff said..

The Spring updates:
1) jz went past The Spring.. the common area near car park is now enclosed with uniform window type. guard house is almost ready :-)
2) if u travel down from FTZ's direction, u can see that IJM have grown shrubs on top of the car park. there are drawings on the wall as well..

p/s: WELCOME TO THE BLOG SHANA!! your unit is the biggest one by far :-)

-ciplak @ C14-
August 13, 2008 at 10:24 PMAnonymous: OC in Feb now? Tot it was initially set in Nov??? Missed x'mas and CNY, bummer :(

Spring stalker.... how reliable is your source? You hav a name to quote? Instead of "that salesman", "my fren working inside"... didnt mean to be rude :p just wanna be thorough

Seems like nothing much left to do looking from the outside... I wonder why still gonna take another 6 months...
August 13, 2008 at 10:48 PMAnonymous: While considering this project, came across this blog for reference. it seem like there are much hidden issues swept below the carpet. The blog sound like a monopoly by a bunch of owners trying paint a beautiful picture... funny, shouldn't call this a blog anymore...
August 13, 2008 at 10:56 PMAnonymous: Hi Ciplak

Thanks for the welcome. Me too is for own stay.

-Shana-
August 13, 2008 at 11:38 PMAnonymous: Its evident that with a take up rate of over 90%, the remaining units are very few, inclusive of bumi-units. So u can safely say that almost all units have already been taken up.

In such a scenario, only those who have either missed out in owning a unit during a launch or being extremely jealous of the progress of the project have kept on commenting negatively on the Spring.

Otherwise, why would they waste their time to hang around this blog and react to our comments when they are not owners or potential buyers?

And to our friend who thinks that there are issues hidden under the carpet, its ok..coz the units are almost sold out and your opinions dun really matter.
August 14, 2008 at 12:18 AMAnonymous: I think all should view comments whether positive and negative with maturity, instead of requesting ppls not to come here and even asked someone who din buy the property to shut up. Anyone also have the rights to access the page and give comment, regardless they own this property or not. If you feel the comments not to your liking or in yr opinion don't make sense at all, can just ignore or rebut back with fact. This is what blog all about.
August 14, 2008 at 12:42 AMAnonymous: May be they "Jiak Pa tan pangsai". Nothing to do and come to shit on other ppl backyard....lol
August 14, 2008 at 1:26 AMAnonymous: Actually we are welcome ppl to share idea & bring up conncern which is something new rather than korek back old story like dumpsite.we have >1000 comments about those kind of old storys already good enough for reference. So just keep it and please try to make something meaningful to this blog.
August 14, 2008 at 9:21 AMAnonymous: to dark knight,
you are funny...to say that "And finally, do pride yourselves for being able to purchase the ONLY sea-front project (< 100m from the waterfront that is) in Malaysia for less than RM300K! Can u tell me where you can get any similar project now in Malaysia for this price range?"
August 14, 2008 at 9:54 AMAnonymous: Myx

nelly was the saleswoman.. she told before CNY can move in, that is the latest.

eventhou from outside u'll see everything is almost completed..but the internal works is still havnt finish yet. last few week when i visit the building, internal painting works still in progress. i saw few panel doors for few units hasnt been installed and painted yet..small -small works but it may take some time.
external work like pavement, water recticulation, drainange & sewerage may also take sometime also.. let say they totally complete the project in november, it will take bout 3 month to obtain OC.. so i guess before CNY is reasonable date line..

-springstalker
August 14, 2008 at 9:57 AMAnonymous: Pls... let us have OC in Oct or Nov... Pls... I really can't wait to stay in SPRING.

IJM, pls don't be so cruel...!!! I really can't wait to get in...
August 14, 2008 at 10:43 AMAnonymous: Thanks to all your comments, I was initially seeking your advices, which are not available from the kinda quiet Nautilus Bay blog. Sorry for turning this into a war zone with a simple comment about the smelly of shorelines and pusat pendaratan ikan. High rise is not my cup of tea since many years ago, from start im just referring to the 3 storey terrace house. Be gentlemen and constructive, don’t make this an unfriendly blog bcs it eventually reflected on the residents

Thanks to Springtalker inputs, very informative, and i think you could be a far better blog commentators if with more objective sharing.

Everyone love their home, but just keep cool, the developer is leveraging your emotion to improve their profit.

Wish all you enjoy celebrating your new home, lots of fun with lots of work.
August 14, 2008 at 2:20 PMAnonymous: if some or part of my comment, somehow influence & justify your consceince to buy the nautilus bay, im honoured..

go ahead, get ur dream house..

if u buying that house for your own stay, just listen to your heart..all the negative comments shud not carry any weight. it is u who'll live there, not them..thats what i did.. i will not regret my desicion eventhou it will backfire in the future..coz i follow my instict, not listen to others.

-springstalker
August 14, 2008 at 4:21 PMAnonymous: Thx. Certainly your comments good as a reference. The Spring is high rise, may not be affected much, but I cannot risk my nearly a million investment subjected to a smelly shoreline and the upcoming Pusat Pendaratan Ikan. Talk is cheap, but the smell is there when i was there.

Thanks for sharing anyway.
August 14, 2008 at 6:43 PMAnonymous: Hi, Springtalker,

I was enjoying go through this blog, but I will also will voice up for the comments which I think it is not true. This is not to bring down The Spring, but just opinion sharing

1. You mentioned other areas will be pretty congested. Those areas you listed only involve 2~3 projects. But why you think The Spring won't be congested due to Summer Place, Ocen View and other low cost apartments surrounding? Also, the people draw by the new seaside? There will be a school built besides The Spring too. You also agree that the area will attract more people to buy property there, means there will be more projects there? Also, you said there will be a recreation park in near future..... aren't all this will cause the "cogested" too?

2. Leasehold issue, I bet you will not buy this leasehold condo if the condo is not The Spring. The Spring have many positive points, so many people telerance with leasehold. If you are going to buy a condo in future, will you consider a leasehold condo which is already 20 yrs old, 50 yrs old or 80 yrs old? If there is a choice for The Spring to be freehold, will you prefer it to be?

No offence, just don't turn the facts around, and bring down other property to bring up the The Spring. By the way, I still think The Spring is a good buy and good investment.

To another guy not welcome other people to visit this blog, please make sure you never visit other property blog as well, OK?
August 14, 2008 at 10:43 PMAnonymous: we thank those for voicing their honest opinions on some negative points of the Spring. But isn't this a bit late since the Spring has been 90% sold? Its obvious that those negative points have been fully factored into the buyers purchasing decisions.

So you are not wrong in voicing out. Its just your timing is wrong. u are talking to the owners now.. not potential buyers. That is why you maybe labelled sour grapes by some...

Take it positively..channel your constructive criticism elsewhere, especially blogs of newly launch properties where the buyers may appreciate yur views more.
August 14, 2008 at 10:49 PMAnonymous: Not going to give good or bad comment to the property but I would like to congratulate and thank the blog master who create this fantastic blog for property owner/investor/agent/buyer in Penang, though saw a lot of support,critics, argument, disagreement, condemn and etc. No one can deny this blog still provide plenty info regarding property in Penang, whether from news article, developer, gossip or grapevine.

Really well done!!

~ picasso ~
August 14, 2008 at 11:02 PMAnonymous: I think most comments not directed
to the genuine buyer/resident of The Spring but rather the unscrupulous investors/real estate agent or even IJM.

Should I use the term "unscrupulous"?
August 15, 2008 at 6:11 AMAnonymous: Dear all, have you notice than when it's time for the launching, many ppl will post negative comments here ? Example, just before the soft launch, lots and lots of negative comments. After that, the long silence... Now, the bumi lots will be launching soon and the negative comments starts again. Kind of weird isn't it ? I notice the more negative comments posted, the more demand it creates maybe caused by the more curiosity and attention it sparks out. Just think, which project in Penang have buyers that are willing to queue from as early as 3am? By 6am, there are already around 300++ ppl queuing. Bare in mind that this apartment is not cheap dude. If it is not worth every penny, will it be sold out in just 3 hours ? My friend queued at 8am. When it comes to her turn, only can register for bumi lots. So go back empty handed.

Hahaa.. renovation and loans have nothing to discuss already. So... go back to "constructive" arguments.
August 15, 2008 at 9:56 AMAnonymous: I still following this blog because I may get some renovation idea. But the Springstalker try to bring out other projects, which including mine. So, I have to correct the statement.

I suggest if the owners wish to avoid 1if comments to be posted again, maybe you all can try not to bring down other projects, or post incorrect statement. They are still many people like me who monitoring the major projects progress in Penang, and this comments can draw a lot of outside people to speak for themselves.

I don't deny that The Spring having big success, which can be due to many factors.
August 15, 2008 at 11:08 AMAnonymous: ok dude...my bad..i shuldnt comented on other properties to make comparison with the spring..every properties have their own pros and cons..

the main reason why i choose the spring is because of its location (convinient for me to go to work & its centre location between gurney-bayan baru).

i've been staying in penang apartment for many years, and carpark is a major concern.
since the spring is offering 2 carparks for every unit. there will be less cars without carpark. relatives or friend who visit the spring owner will have no problem finding side parking beside the road there, because the spring only immediate neigbour is nautilus bay.

some apartment in penang have to pass trough few service roads before reaching the main road, and if u at prime time, traffic will be major pain in the neck..the spring direct access to JE will not face the same problem, eventhou the summerplace, penang court 1&2, school & recreational park is sharing the same development area.

that, i beleive will clarify why the spring is less congested than those apartments i mentioned earlier.

leasehold issue..
of course if given choice, i will choose freehold..but for me location comes first, follows by the surrounding, & then freehold-leasehold..

Yep i wont buy 20 / 50 / 80 years old properties regardless it is freehold or leasehold. in fact im not interested in secondary market..why buy some old building if u can get new & attractive one.

personaly i think leasehold and freehold is just a state of mind..eventhough if u live untill 99 years, the building will look like somewhat pre-war building nowadays.

but if u thinking to sell your property, 5-10 years is an ideal time to sell. that time, your bank loan can be refinance wihout penalty and your property is not too outdated and too old.

- springstalker
August 15, 2008 at 11:22 AMAnonymous: anyone else have anymore pictures?. Can we organise a group to access the site ? I am getting very impatience.

Thanks in advance
August 15, 2008 at 11:57 AMAnonymous: 2 thumbs up for springstalker. This is actually my concern too. I was struggered in between the lease hold and freehold matter as well as the environmental concern too. But really, even the lease due at 99 years, what going to happened? You worry government going to demolish the building. Actually they can with compensation. No worries, you won't get nothing back.....lol. Additonally, 99 years is a long time. At least can let my children or grand grand children leave there, 3 generations. Worth it already. I think in 50 years time probably me or my family will feel bored about it already. Further, i plan to move some whereelse after my retirement........haha. Another ponit that i chosen Spring is like what springstalker said. Conveninent. If i want a better bargain of property, i can always go Butterworth or Perai. But every time when the bridge is so F**king jammed. I rather wish i stay in the island and with easy access to most of thew places. To be frank, 2 car parks for some families might not be sufficient though. Ah pa 1 car, ah ma 1 car, ah son 1 car and ah daughter 1 car. Where got enough? But at least better than one. Back IN KL, all those addition cars were park out side of the high rise residential. Everyday sure got so and so mirror been broken. Even you go to Gold Coast there, cars are occupiying two side of the roads. N-Park, my friends kena "Gu Bak Kuah" once every few weeks. Leaving in island or places with limitted land, this is the pathetic fate.

Enough of this topic for me. Let wait for the OC with happier heart and mind.

I heard my friend said, the spring is in the list of those "Ganster" renovation company.This would be 1 on my worries now....lol

cywee....Type A
August 15, 2008 at 1:39 PMAnonymous: hi cywee..

wah..talking bout retirement plan already..:)
my retirement plan is to buy a peiece of land in some rural area where i can build my wooden pondok, tanam sayur n bela lembu..but if somehow in my life, i turn to become multibilionaire, i might consider buying a peiece of land in dubai's the world island .lol

-springstalker
August 15, 2008 at 2:08 PMAnonymous: Hi all,
i am new at this blog, can call me no18 cause i am one of the earliest and i able to get B type.
i buy the springs is to stay no for invest purpose, so i saw a lot of -ve comment and i have no eye to see it. ( bought already ma... nan dao wan me to sell it? )no way la...
i interest to get reno info from here...and share out info to you all...
first of all... i already dump in a lump sum of money (reno $$) into bank first cause it can reduce the interest for few months ( if get OC in dec at least i can save 1-2k ). after CNY i only will take out the $$ for renovation....due to reduce interest and b4 CNY time renovation fee sure will up...

Thanks
no18
August 15, 2008 at 3:28 PMAnonymous: hi

i bought type-C. i also waiting for the OC and plan to stay for good. i have ask a local contractor and he said IJM condo will not have "gangster" but not for jelutong. There is a powerful group ganster in jelutong and u need to pay the rubbish fees/buy the simen.Same as Bayswater.
Actually i am not sure is it right time to book fo some furniture as well since there is sales going on right now.i also wish to have datails interior pictures/measurements as what i read type C is smaller than plan.

---B.B----
August 15, 2008 at 3:57 PMAnonymous: Hi BB,

Who told you that bayswater have those gangster contractor during renovation? i am Bayswater residence but there is no such thing when we are doing renovation, we can call in any contractor that we want. Anyway hope The Spring not allow that type of constractor as well!!!!!
August 16, 2008 at 10:36 AMAnonymous: RM0.5mil = RM500K buy a leasehold house... that is too much...Moreover space is less than 1000sf
August 16, 2008 at 10:55 AMAnonymous: Ohhh, sorry, I didn't realize the actual market price for type C already reach rm500k. Then, I revise my Type B new offer price for my to 520k since it's slightly larger than type C. Only serious buyer, no agents thanks.
August 16, 2008 at 11:35 AMAnonymous: please ignore the 500K advertisement, that is for break time.
August 16, 2008 at 2:28 PMAnonymous: Mmh... I wonder if Type E could sell for RM800K ?. I think it could right ?. I mean, Nautilus Bay is already selling for more than RM1mil. Type E's view is much better right ?
August 16, 2008 at 3:30 PMAnonymous: Type A,B,C you can get it at 320-330k at the moment. That is the market price for now.

-Shana-
August 16, 2008 at 7:42 PMAnonymous: i luv this blog! first we have naysayers and sour grapes and now we have jokers who try to distrupt the market price by over quoting a fake offer. Damn entertaining..ha ha!

Mr Tew, its no wonder with such mentality yur surname fits its cantonese meaning so well.

Cheers!
August 16, 2008 at 9:00 PMAnonymous: Just to make serious sellers aware that, do you know that for someone to buy a unit at The Spring at 500k means the buyer must cough out at least 200k - 250k cash as downpayment? Try to ask a valuer and u will know that the market value for the spring is only ~300k and less than that for those smaller size units.

Bank loan money based on market value not selling price. Even with 90% loan from bank, the buyer can only loan 270k, means he needs 200k+ cash.

And at 500k u know the buyer will need to pay 10-20k legal fee & stamping.

and if the buyer plan to stay immedately will need to prepare at least another 50-100k for reno.

How many ppl have 250-350k+ cash?

and those that have u think they will buy a 1k+ sqft medium cost apartment (check your SnP, it is not condo)

Don't get me wrong, i am not trying to depreciate the value of ur condo but property valuer don't just raise the value of ur property by seeing how much u sell but rather how much ppl willing to pay for it. Value will go up as ppl will be more and more willing to pay more for it but it takes yrs and yrs.

Even if someone really wanna buy, my advice is ask the person how much cash he/she has and get a bank loan first.

If you think 500k as of today still makes sense then good luck or wait long long.
August 16, 2008 at 9:03 PMAnonymous: And for an incomplete property, the value is based on the the original SnP with the developer. The new buyes can only get 90% of ur original purchase price.
August 17, 2008 at 12:57 PMAnonymous: Well 2 years ago when ppl say Bayswater will be worth 400k i bet there were guys like u that said the same things. We'll see how high can the price of Spring being goreng'ed, as for 480k, i do have ppl whom are interested, just that they do not like the view but we'll see.

Fyi, not all of us here are factory workers with no savings. :)
August 17, 2008 at 5:26 PMAnonymous: Mr Tew,

I think you must be rich but if a buyer ever consider paying for 500k for a condo like the spring then he must be rich but stupid.

until we really see a real transaction at 480-500k then only u feel proud. a lot of buyer didn't aware of what i mention

and pls bayswater is just a few exception cases. i think u should put the spring in the same league as those low cost houses at that area.
August 17, 2008 at 6:30 PMAnonymous: I agree with Mr Tew. Another case is Regency Heights. Just two years ago, if ppl would say RH will be selling at 400K, he will be laugh at.

The Spring is still not complete and yet there are so many ppl that are interested in it. This Spring blog speaks for itself. I'm just confident that within two years after OC the selling price will exceed RM500K. When most of IJM's development is compete for Jelutong, the selling price would be even rocket higher.

Incase you are not aware, low medium cost apartment is now costing more than RM160K (only 1 car park) and is only around 600sq ft.
August 17, 2008 at 6:56 PMAnonymous: The neighbourhood of The Spring or residents live around Bandar Sri Pinang could be a minus point to have the property appreciate further.

Look at Nautilus Bay, why u see hardly anyone move in yet?
You may see some investors may have backfire.

If you want to try to find out what kind of neighbourhood you may have when you move in The Spring or Nautilus Bay, just visit the site at the promenande in the evening, you will find hawkers, mamak friends and others around that area.

Whether that scene will affect the price of Nautilus Bay or The Spring, upto individual to judge
and evaluate.
August 17, 2008 at 7:58 PMAnonymous: Hi all non-owners of The Spring,

Please dont come to The Spring blog and Bayswater Blog and criticize us, we are kiasu people, you will not able to fight with us.

So, keep away from The Spring blog, or else you will be shot flat.

The Spring is the best condo, the rest of the condo cannot fight with our condo. We owners are highly educated professionals and thus, dont mess with us. We may find a lawyer to sue whoever that sabotage our blog.

Our condo has the best facility, best design and best location. What condo can compete with us?

If you dont believe, a few months later, our condo will be sold more than a million per unit, just watch and see.

We owners are proud of ourselves and our condo, we dont like you sour-graped person to criticize us just because you didnt come early to queue. IJM sold 70% of the units before launching and still we non-investers went early and able to grab the LEFTOVER unit. We are proud because we at least grab the LEFTOVER unit, you are not able to grab any, deserve it!

Those low class people, dont come to The Spring or passed by, you will be an eye sores to We The Spring owners, we LOOK DOWN on you low class people.

From The Representative of The Spring Owners Club
August 17, 2008 at 8:34 PMAnonymous: This guy above have been writing nonsense on active blogs like D-Piazza and etc as well....you are the one who should stay away from this blog. So full of craps, must be a weirdo....
August 17, 2008 at 9:03 PMAnonymous: To the highly educated professionals.Guess what, BIG MISTAKE you've just invited everyone to the blog.It takes one to know one (the so called low class). WELL DONE!!
August 17, 2008 at 9:48 PMAnonymous: Feel free to smell the nice air around.
August 17, 2008 at 10:24 PMAnonymous: wth all like to come here challege, why don't go other blog? if want give input, please comment something useful. all units sold out already, what is your intention to come here comment old story again?
August 17, 2008 at 11:08 PMAnonymous: Just ignore those who post negative comments la... Wasting time arguing with them. Negative comments only creates curiosity and this in directly create demand and pushes Spring's price higher. Anyway, this blog already speaks for itself. The most active among others. Who can compete? Moreover, other blogs don't have so much beautiful photos :-)

Those who said no one moving in Nautilus Bay did not do any research. The owners are in the process of renovating their houses and will be moving in when it completes soon. When Summer Place launches, recreation park and the remaining promenade and The Light is complete, Spring will easily double in price.

Bandar Sri Pinang will be a beautiful and wonderful place in the near future. If it is not so, our CM will not have put his signature during the official opening of the promenade. Even gurney does not have this prestige.

Bandar Sri Pinang is to be a beautiful icon of Penang which can be seen from the sky, sea and land and Penang bridge and everyone else will be jealous of us. All I can say is that we are fortunate to get the chance to purchase a unit. Something even if got money also not everyone get to buy. We are the fortunate few who managed to seal a great bargain.

Mi Mi (Type F)
August 18, 2008 at 10:27 AMAnonymous: wow too much spotlight on the spring's blog..fake buyer , fake seller , fake spring owner...let just read and enjoy those comments.
August 18, 2008 at 5:18 PMAnonymous: All contractors out there, pls leave your contact number here. Thanks.
August 18, 2008 at 8:30 PMAnonymous: hi all regular Spring bloggers,

do u think we can organise a trip to the site with IJM?

unfortunately my contact person in IJM has resigned... so i have to rely on u guys/girls..

do email to me at ciplak_me@yahoo.com if you managed to strike a deal with IJM... :-)

the main reason would be to look at the unit itself & if possible, to take the unit measurements too..

latest updates/findings:
1) there's electrical wiring at the balcony ceiling itself
2) aircon piping is at the mid point of the balcony wall
3) IJM have installed basketball net & drawn mural on the wall on top of the car park

-ciplak @ C14-
August 18, 2008 at 9:59 PMAnonymous: Thanks for the update Ciplak.

I feel your sales person is the most reliable and knowledgeable person in IJM. I really doubt other sales person will be able to help. They are not as helpful as the one that just resigned. :-(

Anyway, I think it would be best to just wait for the OC then see the unit for ourself just to keep out of trouble. It's just one or two mths away.

~Bi Lien~
August 19, 2008 at 9:37 AMAnonymous: Murals on the car park wall??? got any pic to share?
August 19, 2008 at 10:08 AMAnonymous: Haiya..uncle here just want to sell a unit, why so many negative comments, name calling and criticising? How much i would like to sell a unit is really just my own business right? Well to be realistic, 480k might be too much for now judging by the current market price, but i'm willing to wait a few years for it to hit that price, i'm not an urgent seller anyway. I'm suprised by some of the comments here and at the same time amused, if one could not afford something, according to the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad", the correct mindset is "How can i make myself afford it?" and not name calling, criticising, envious and so on...really disappointed.
August 19, 2008 at 11:00 AMAnonymous: It should be safe to enter the construction site right? Since only the ground level is not complete.

Not sure if they have lock all the units doors. Would be a waste of time by going in and finding all the units locked. :o

~Chin Eng~
August 20, 2008 at 1:37 AMAnonymous: Uncle Tew,

No harm dreaming about selling yur unit at RM480K but it speaks much of your mentality at this stage of the project, really.

Having said so, it is not wise to cite books just to act smart especially when your acts are remotely close to what they preach.

These are great books with good teachings. Leave them alone as you are doing them great injustice.
August 20, 2008 at 11:40 AMAnonymous: ok. sorry. my mistake

uncle tew
August 20, 2008 at 5:40 PMAnonymous: That great to know The spring blog been 1128. Any one pending to release Type G? IF yes what the estimate selling price. When Bumilot will open to sale. Check with IJM sale , they still can not give the final date.
August 20, 2008 at 7:15 PMAnonymous: I understand that the rulling is that bumi lots can only be sold after OC is obtain. According to IJM, that should be before Chinese New Year. CNY is in JAN 2009 so the OC should be before that date.

loo
August 21, 2008 at 12:06 PMAnonymous: I just passed thru Time Square Penang this morning. It is almost completed. Looks like it they will be getting OC sooner than us. :-(

How come like that ?. Ours start building first but get OC later... NOT FAIR...

**very disappointed
August 22, 2008 at 10:33 AMAnonymous: My understanding is that once building progress phase hits 55% and launched for over 6 months, bumi lots can then be allowed to be released, subject to approval. Correct me if I'm wrong
August 22, 2008 at 6:44 PMAnonymous: Just info sharing. Read this articles before you commit:

http://www.propertick.com/article/top-10-home-buying-mistakes

Xtra attention to #8:

8. Forgetting or betting on resale. Avoid buying a home that costs 50 percent more than neighboring homes and think before buying the most expensive home on the block. Your neighbors’ lower home values will weaken yours. Remember, markets change. If you buy intending to flip your investment and the market falls and you have to sell, your selling price may not be enough to even cover your mortgage.

10. Having buyer’s remorse. No place is perfect. There will always be surprises. Don’t let a few initial blips spoil the whole ride. And don’t miss a great house waiting for the perfect one!
August 22, 2008 at 7:34 PMAnonymous: Cannot understand the rationale IJM selling their remaining unit now...

1. IJM claim freehold is on the way… fine....
2. The owners claim IJM staff inform them Vacant Possession soon (OC normally a few weeks/months after VP la).

Here is the conflict: Once VP, each parcel is under the ownership of respective owners, and the conversion will become very complicated as IJM need to get concession from each and every owners to pay a premium (can up to 10k or more, it depend on the speculated value appreciation of the property). Normally, not all owners willing or able to pay, then the conversion halted.

If the conversion is on the way, why not IJM wait for another month of two, so they can earn extra 20-30% profit selling their balance units? Why IJM choose the hard way to convert to freehold?
August 22, 2008 at 7:49 PMAnonymous: Conversion bumi to none bumi:

The developer have to prove to related authority that sufficient efforts taken to sell the bumi-lots.

1. Developer conducted many promotional road show at government departments
2. At least 3 times large scale advertisement in mainstream media (malay newspaper)
3. Show unit available for viewing

.... and couple more terms... documentation proof must attach along with conversion application... and within 6 months, in Selangor and Penang state, conversion can be approved.

So, release of bumi lots have nothing to do with OC.
August 22, 2008 at 10:02 PMAnonymous: The Spring won't be converted to freehold. IJM staff has already confirmed this.

But Nautilus Bay maybe, IJM still pursue the case with the authority, the low cost neighbourhood made Nautilus Bay don't look attractive for resale value, now the only hope is revive it is the freehold status conversion.
August 23, 2008 at 12:34 AMAnonymous: Oh, then, everything make sense now... a developer like IJM woulod not miss a chance to double up their profit if they could.
August 23, 2008 at 12:41 AMAnonymous: OK, that make sense now, for the Spring. Then the owners have to work their own way to to freehold, extreme tough even under new gov. But, the Spring is not alone.

But why IJM still pursue freehold for Nautilus Bay? Why IJM wasting time over property they already sold, you will be kidding me if because of social responsibility, that's sound very unIJM. Unless, many unsold units...
August 23, 2008 at 10:47 PMAnonymous: I thought SPRING is freehold already ?. That's y all sold out.

Spring freehold already la...
August 24, 2008 at 1:57 PMAnonymous: The Spring not yet freehold....
August 24, 2008 at 8:19 PMAnonymous: Then, hard liao. Bcs new goverment only standardize conversion for commercial and landed with OC. High rise conversion will be standardize, maybe in the future. This apply to all condo, not only the spring.
August 24, 2008 at 10:20 PMAnonymous: Anyone knows when this project can get OC ?
August 26, 2008 at 11:16 PMAnonymous: its amazing how some quarters are still harping on the freehold conversion of the spring when its already a known fact that there will be NO conversion. read thru this blog, keep yourself updated and stop asking stupid questions ler..
August 27, 2008 at 9:55 AMAnonymous: They are not owners that's y they are so blur.
August 27, 2008 at 9:56 AMAnonymous: gotta compliment this blog admin for the nice new web design
August 28, 2008 at 11:21 AMAnonymous: the rise of the bulk buyers/speculators...deprive genuine home buyers then suck their blood when sell to them...actually its not good to make money out of other peoples suffering and hardship...bad karma!
August 28, 2008 at 12:03 PMAnonymous: Mr Cheah,

Pls put the price. If it is beyond my league then I don't have to call you.

If you don't put the price, lots of people will call just to find out the price. It's a waste of time right ?
August 28, 2008 at 12:10 PMAnonymous: All also cannot talk! sian nia.....
So keep rolling with renovation, banks, lawyer, documents, sell and buy...... and OC! Then, close the blog....
August 28, 2008 at 12:12 PMAnonymous: Now can sell meh ?. How to change name ?. When bumi lot can be launched ? After oc ?. When can get OC ?

so many questions unanswered how to buy ?
August 28, 2008 at 12:35 PMAnonymous: Reading thru the blog, one suggestion for none-owners. Don't waste your time complaining if you think the property is unfairly priced. Please respect the others's way of earn for their living, buy low sell high, that's nature of investment.

I don't think the Spring is the right one for me in terms of pricing and many others factors, so just I move on to others. Yes, i don't like IJM and the owners claims, but that's their choice, and should be respected. If I am owner here, I would being defendent too against complains, would you? Rather than complain being ripped off (which you yet be one), just move on to others fairer deal and better offers. Just have some faith in you believing, only time will tell.
August 28, 2008 at 1:04 PMAnonymous: i dont see any reason why prospective owners or those interested cannot voice their views regarding price etc..also the trouble with investors/speculators is they get what hokkiens call "tam sim" - plain greedy...want more n more money and in the process first time home owners dont even get a chance to buy at developers/launch price...there is a fine line between investing/speculating and ethics/morality...
August 28, 2008 at 1:12 PMAnonymous: Which property dont go up price one?

Palm Palladium-230k-330k [43% increase]
Harmony View-120k-170k [42% increase]
University Place-180k-270k [50% increase]
Oceanview-130k-190k [46% increase]
Greenlane Park-190k-320k [72% increase]
Putra Place-160k-260k [63% increase]

Above are just random apartments for example and as you can see average increase is around 50-60%of course some are new while some are a few years of age

If Spring buyer buy at 240k(low floor)and sell at 330k which is the lowest market price now, % increase is only 38%. Compared to all above property, it is the lowest.

-Shana-
August 28, 2008 at 1:26 PMAnonymous: Hi Shana,

Those project you listed above at least take 3 years or more to increase to such value. For The Spring it take only 3 months. The way you compare is misleading. Too much speculation on The Spring. As some said buy low sell high, so now it is at the high side who wants to buy?
August 28, 2008 at 1:40 PMAnonymous: palm palladium is just completed and vp/oc few weeks time...and not at least 3 yrs old...as for spring not even completed!..u know why apart from the fact that everyone says its IJM project...its the so called attraction of the 2nd "gurney drive" promenade...but unlike the original gurney, the spring area is reclaimed land, for lots of development so can expect further congestion etc and of course theres the expressway n traffic noise
August 28, 2008 at 1:46 PMAnonymous: I think The Spring owner should look at the neg points positively.

If I am a potential buyer looking for a condo, I will not go thru the1200 posts, and I will just ask the same questions on the neg things, hope someone have the answers can convince me on the neg things. If I have the good answers, I may decide to take up an unit range 300K~350K, and a transection made. More transections will help to leave up The Spring price as well.....

So, people posted the neg comments, can be the potential buyer who need to clear some doubts...... Don't closed the door!

Just my opinion!
August 28, 2008 at 2:05 PMAnonymous: Again Shana, the launched price for Baystar, I-regency, etc. launched few years ago. Not three months ago. The price increase for the Spring is just three months ago from the launching date. It is not a steady increase but in fact it is a speculation.

If IJM hold the launching for the Spring and launched next month. Will you willing to buy at RM330K a unit without much facilities, leasehold and all those -ve point around Bardar Sri Pinang
August 28, 2008 at 2:52 PMAnonymous: yeah u guys r right.. the spring has many negative points..
but if u think it will drag down the price, u r wrong.. i will not sell if the profit is lower than 40%...coz i have to pay 5% interest for the mortgage loan, lawyer's fee, stamp duty, loss of profit in my invesment which i withdrawed for downpayment .. only desperates will sell it lower than market price..
August 28, 2008 at 3:02 PMAnonymous: Conversion to non-Bumi lot

Develop need to pay contribution then can convert the Bumi lot already. Where got so complicated?
August 28, 2008 at 3:48 PMAnonymous: Fyi, Baystar was launched last year not few years ago

You can call CP Bhd at 6401188 for more information

They are building lvl 3 or 4 only at the moment.

-Shana-
August 28, 2008 at 3:48 PMAnonymous: so many people die , no see you die.shana i support you !

-ciplak @ C14-
August 28, 2008 at 4:36 PMAnonymous: can someone pls answer me when SPRING can get OC ?. I need that info before I can commit myself into buying a unit.

Thanks.
August 28, 2008 at 6:11 PMAnonymous: Interesting, a full time agent trying to link the Spring to Baystar and Times Square. Both of the area a fully with commercial activities, same for the Bayswater (Tesco & E-Gate). What do the Spring have? Shana, wondering which company are you from?
August 28, 2008 at 6:40 PMAnonymous: SPRING is an up and coming condo. IJM is in the mids of building commercial buildings around SPRING until The Light.

If everything is inplace now at this moment, you will not be seeing SPRING as RM350K. It will be RM500K instead !
August 28, 2008 at 7:04 PMAnonymous: You can even say spring can sell up to RM800K or RM1mil. No one can stop you. But what i see now is the area is more alike to Macallum Flat by PDC where you can find convenient of PASAR MALAM and surrounded by low cost flat.

I just pity of those who bought Nautilus Bay for such expensive price yet they can't live in harmony. The PASAR MALAM store just opposite Nautilus Bay terrace house. Would you pay RM800K or RM1mil for that?
August 28, 2008 at 7:44 PMAnonymous: Notice that -ve points start increasing when nearing OC release date. Biasalah.. you have desperate unscroupulous ppl trying to press the price down hoping for a bargain sale? dream on la... Really pity them.
August 28, 2008 at 7:49 PMAnonymous: " Hi Shana,

Those project you listed above at least take 3 years or more to increase to such value. For The Spring it take only 3 months. The way you compare is misleading. Too much speculation on The Spring. As some said buy low sell high, so now it is at the high side who wants to buy?"

to the anonymous above,

any idea why no one speculated on the other projects mentioned? Also, if those projects have bulk buying, u tink ppl will buy? Use brains la aiyo...
August 28, 2008 at 7:50 PMAnonymous: contacted cheah.. wont budge at 330for type A. And thats mid floor nia.

jj
August 28, 2008 at 8:13 PMAnonymous: Ya cheapest you can get now is 330k. It should stick to 350k once OC obtained.
August 28, 2008 at 9:30 PMAnonymous: Don't worry, those who claim the Spring should hit rm500k working class level who greed for more profit with their single unit or two (you can name quite a few from this blog). Those bulk buyers think and work differently, unrealized capital on hand mean opportunity cost, and rule of thumb of investment is you can never hit the highest point. Winning the battle is easy, all it takes is patience, and do you have one? Else, don't complain being ripped off.
August 28, 2008 at 10:17 PMAnonymous: hi usual bloggers,

FYI..i havent posted any blogs here for some time already (so don't bother replying any of "my" enquiries) due to the fact that someone with an obvious lack of mental capacity is constantly using my nick to post equally retarded entries just to stir up the hornet's nest..

perhaps its time for the moderator to do something before this blog spiral out of control..
August 28, 2008 at 10:59 PMAnonymous: thanks for everyone given so many comments to this blog, you guys help to advertise the spring condo. -ve or +ve comments will only attract more ppl and ramp up the price. In fact, -ve comment won't ramp up the value. Good job!!!
August 29, 2008 at 1:02 AMAnonymous: I think we can't blame the investor but rather the developer IJM. IJM basically built a project/condo for speculation purpose, nothing else. That's why they've given priority for bulk buyer to choose the unit first, rather than individual buyer, who got all the leftover. This is outright unfair practice by unscrupulous IJM. I did agree with demand and supply, willing buyer and seller concept, but why discriminate those individual buyer. They're also paying the same amount of $$ for the unit.
Of course depends on the level and types. All are paying a "fair price" too.

This is outright a wrong practice, even someone may suggest this is a good marketing stretegy. But why make the individual buyer looks like second grade citizen, need to queue up early and pay for the leftover. Agree, knowing IJM is running a business, not charity organization but why discriminate?? whether sell to the bulk buyer or individual buyer still get the same amount of profit.

IJM is an outright unethical company! Totally without any civic conscious. Such discrimination act should be condenmed. I'm wondering when is the pay back time for this company.

Though I own a pathetic type C unit, but that is besides the point why I still condemn their discriminate act.
August 29, 2008 at 8:55 AMAnonymous: Let me make this point clear. Individual buyers pay 10K more than bulk buyers for each unit.

For those who does not know, at the very last day just before the soft launch, the developer increased all units' prices by 10K.
August 29, 2008 at 9:49 AMAnonymous: God can see it, all bosses of IJM will pay back?=.="
August 29, 2008 at 10:12 AMAnonymous: legally IJM is not wrong..commercially IJM is not wrong too b'cos it only need to deal with 1 person/company for the 17 units it has sold in bulk. talk abt social responsibility, then u can argue that IJM has not done enough...
having said that, where can you find developers building mid-range apartment at 200K level now? u hardly find any now! and good news is that IJM is building Summer Place which will sell maybe 280K and above...
you have to applause IJM, b'cos The Spring is obviously a medium cost apartment, without swimming pool. yet it manage to make its project looks so up-class that many buyers are so proud of it and they tot they are buying a high class condo. funny still, there are even buyers who demand IJM to change the fencing! come on, what's wrong with the fencing for this mid-range apartment? obviously IJM not going to care abt their complaints, and rightly so...
if u want to buy it now for own stay, then fine, go ahead.
if u want to buy it now for investment or rental income, then think twice. there are many completed mid-range condo will full facilities, some even with renovation, selling at 350K price range.
August 29, 2008 at 10:25 AMAnonymous: Hi, Shana,

can you tell whther there are any sub-sale transections made for The Spring, Palm Paladium, D'Piazza and I-Regancy? I wonder how much can the under contruction project perform.
August 29, 2008 at 1:16 PMAnonymous: On my side so far, I know of 1 unit Palm Palladium sold for 310k Type C and 2 unit Spring Type A 310k as well.
August 29, 2008 at 1:28 PMAnonymous: ee wrote:
so...
if u want to buy it now for own stay, then fine, go ahead.
if u want to buy it now for investment or rental income, then think twice. there are many completed mid-range condo will full facilities, some even with renovation, selling at 350K price range.

you got a point there..if people prefer to buy/rent other properties, that will be good to spring owners .. less tenant, less hectic.. spring owners will enjoy low occupancy and exclusive living..

- springstalker
August 29, 2008 at 7:20 PMAnonymous: eh... why IJM is not in the country's top 10 developers list?
August 29, 2008 at 9:06 PMAnonymous: Why IJM should in the top 10?

Maybe those IJM's die hard will say, IJM don't care about this accolade, as long as IJM earn big profit every year!
August 29, 2008 at 9:19 PMAnonymous: not top 10 also ppl scamble like mad to buy liao..if top 10 leh? camping 3 days in advance... ;)
September 6, 2008 at 3:01 PMCereal Killa 2011: good news.. was just back from the Star Property Fair at PISA today. Bumi Lots going for RM290K already... Upon conversion should be around RM310K. Think this gives a good gauge on the market value now :)
September 9, 2008 at 7:56 PMUnknown: Hi, I bought Type A facing bridge. Nice to meet you. Just to say hi.
September 10, 2008 at 9:39 AMUnknown: Hi Steve,

Welcome on to the blog. Which Type A you bought? Block 11 or Block 13? How much is your purchase price?

~Andrea~
September 10, 2008 at 2:27 PMlydia: Still got unit to sell? How much the latest price? im interested too..
September 10, 2008 at 4:51 PMTKL: Me three.
September 10, 2008 at 7:03 PMUnknown: Around 260k
13
September 10, 2008 at 11:11 PMCereal Killa 2011: hi Steve,

I presume u bought during April launch. bumi lots going for RM290K recently at PISA.
September 11, 2008 at 10:37 AMUnknown: Yup. Bought in April.

Sept will get Vacant Possesion?
Any news? My master bedroom too small, other are quite ok.

About the Edge top 10. I think IJM not in because IJM Properties info not available to them, since not a Public Listed Co.
Looking at IJM Corporation' Property Segment Report 31 Mac 2008, they should among the top 30 on quantitative measure.

By the way IJM properties has been transfer under IJM Land Berhad, they should be among the top 5 property developer in Malaysia by then.
September 13, 2008 at 10:58 AMlydia: Why the price non-bumi cheapest than bumi lots?
September 13, 2008 at 11:57 AMCereal Killa 2011: bumi lots were the same price as non-bumi lots during launch. As it approaches OC, the bumi lots value will rise in tandem with the non-bumi lots. when conversion happens from the unsold bumi lots to non-bumi lots, the developer has to pay a premium and this is factored into the new price for non-bumi lots. Hence, at any point in time, the non-bumi lots should be priced higher.
September 16, 2008 at 6:25 PMsulin: Hi Andrea,

Which block is 13 & which block is 11?

SL
September 16, 2008 at 6:42 PMsulin: To Spring Owners,

I think you can get the measurements from IJM the sales person named Jacky. This is not exact measurements but its better than nothing if you wish to plan your renovations and measure your furnitures.
September 16, 2008 at 7:30 PMAnonymous: 11 is closer to the Type E and sea while the 13 is further
September 17, 2008 at 9:11 AMUnknown: Hi SL,

Sorry for late reply. Block A has 4 blocks; Block 6 & Block 8 are facing ferry view/Nautilus Bay while Block 11 & 13 are facing sea view.

May I know which block did you buy?

For all Spring owners, the IJM had plant a lots of plant surrounding the building. Carpark is almost done...maybe end of this month or earlier of next month.

I believe we will get the OC by Nov or Dec as there will be one more payment waiting IJM to request. Once IJM had request, IJM will ask for OC. I believe IJM will ask the final payment next month.

I am slightly worried on the road that lead to entrance coz it's not wide enough. Afraid it will be very jam once the Spring had been fully occupied or if there is school besides The Spring. Hopefully IJM will widen the road to The Spring entrance or have another entrance to go out.
September 17, 2008 at 9:32 AMUnknown: Hi SL,

Sorry for late reply. I guess Saber had help me to answer your question. Thanks, Saber!

Which block did you own, SL?
September 17, 2008 at 12:17 PMsulin: Hi Andrea,

Oh thats what you meant. Well I own a unit at Block 6. How about your goodself?

Hi Steve,

I think we'll be neighbours soon. Mine's also Type A.
September 17, 2008 at 12:51 PMAnonymous: Hi Andrea, no problem. I visit IJM yesterday to check out status of bumi lots and it seems that left like 20 units only. And for the price they increase 10k-20k from soft date launch, so they are selling most of the units above 300k. For example, 280k for a unit now, when they release they will increase 10% more, so its around 310k
September 17, 2008 at 2:32 PMUnknown: Hi, has anyone heard of upcoming project known as "Maritime" at the Jelutong promenade. I heard that it is forty story high and will probably block the sea view of Spring units facing jetty?

Can anyone comment???
September 17, 2008 at 3:54 PMAnonymous: As far as I know its a SOHO, but I dont know how many stories, will be build beside Lots 28, so might affect the view a little as its closer to the centre of the Promenade(beside the church I think)...check out with IJM people..but u still can see most of the seaview
September 17, 2008 at 4:11 PMUnknown: Saber you are right. the soho is just beside the church. The Church will be 7 stories high.
Lot 28 will be 2 stories high. It's going to be beautiful !
September 17, 2008 at 6:27 PMJB: Hi,

Dear all spring owner, call me up when you guys having any gathering when OC obtain.

~J.B~
September 18, 2008 at 1:43 AMCereal Killa 2011: yeah..i cant wait for oc to come out. the only seafront project with the view and beautiful lights of mainland as the backdrop... sigh...
September 18, 2008 at 12:00 PMsulin: Hi Saber, Lim, Loo Soon Huat,

Could you guys elaborate on the Church as well as the 'Maritime' development? Where is Lot 28? Do you have the entire plan with the Lot numbers & upcoming developments?

Do let me know. Thanks in advance.

Hi JB,

Yea do gimme a tinker if there's a gathering when getting our OC.

Thanks.
September 19, 2008 at 7:25 PMUnknown: Dear All,

Maritime is project beside the proposed church building. It has a Piazza surrounded with four storey shophouses. On top of the shophouses is the SOHO unit, one block 40 storey high, another block 36 storey high shaped as mirrored "L" shape. It will partially block the view of all Spring units facing the jetty.
It will be tabled for approval by MPPP. Anyone has more info please comment?
September 20, 2008 at 12:29 AMCereal Killa 2011: is the developer IJM?
September 21, 2008 at 3:22 PMUnknown: Hi everyone, just wanna highlight something about the fence here.

The holes between the fence is too large. It is a potential security risk. I saw stray dogs going through them with no problem at all. Hope IJM would do something to it. Maybe cover it up with plants or something.

If you are wondering what holes in the fence I am refering to, Look at photos of 6th July 2008, first row, picture 3.

I am just a concerned owner. Cheers.
September 27, 2008 at 6:19 PMCereal Killa 2011: My friend read in a recent chinese newspaper that our Govt is looking to turning the dumpsite into a recreational park. The Jelutong MP, Jeff Ooi was sent to Korea to study the methods and process as it was successfully implemented there. This is good news!
September 29, 2008 at 4:53 PMDave: This blog now very boring.... not much of ppl comment..
September 29, 2008 at 5:16 PMsulin: yea..i know..its becoming too boring...i m worried abt the project 'maritime' any futher info?
September 29, 2008 at 6:33 PMDave: Hi Sulin, before you worry about the Maritime, better worry on the current economy situation. If the economy turn bad i'm sure there will not be any Maritime anymore.
September 30, 2008 at 2:26 PMsulin: Hi Dave, i doubt the economy will put a stop to the project, it'll probably just postphone it till later. So Dave u an owner too?
September 30, 2008 at 11:31 PMkenjoeT: kian hong, halor my penang fren. u really 'hiong' lol. 925sqf sell FROM 360k. like tat my unit type F can sale FROM 500k. i think u better go to chk the market rate 1st lol.
October 1, 2008 at 1:31 PMCereal Killa 2011: A bit on the high side i would agree.Go check with century agency. Type A sold for RM335K recently. I think type F would fetch around RM400K max only..
October 3, 2008 at 2:34 PMUnknown: Hi Eow,

I am also Type A.
October 3, 2008 at 2:35 PMUnknown: Hi Eow,

Mine is Block 6 too.
October 6, 2008 at 3:41 PMDave: Hi Sulin, Yes i'm type E owner.
October 7, 2008 at 1:12 PMABAAS: Hi I am ABAAS here. I just purchase a house in Spring, Nice to meet you guys.
October 7, 2008 at 7:14 PMTKL: Fren, Nice to meet you.

Just purchase meaning recently ?. This month ? or during soft launch ?

If recently, what type and how much ?.
October 8, 2008 at 9:16 AMABAAS: 240 K AFTER BUMI DISCAUNT TYPE C
October 8, 2008 at 9:48 AMEx-in-none: Wow, 240k!! Very fast you sell out and earn almost 100k.

The price for the Spring is insane. I wonder why people want to spend more than RM350 for a square feet in this property.....
October 8, 2008 at 11:04 AMUnknown: Basheer,

Welcome to the party.

What floor are you in ?. Did you ask your salesman when can get OC ?
October 8, 2008 at 11:20 AMsulin: Hi Andrea,

Wow...we have the same type & block just different floors...

Hi Dave,

Cool tat u purchased Type E...i shud have gotten Type E instead...

To all,

At least now its not tat boring anymore.. ;p
October 8, 2008 at 1:05 PMABAAS: Regarding the fence, yesterday I called IJM the person said they are going to plant spme plantation near fence.
October 8, 2008 at 3:45 PMP: Hi Guys,Any idea when we can get the OC?I went to the site but the internal road still not yet completed...
October 8, 2008 at 6:19 PMCereal Killa 2011: basheer, u bought your unit during may launch or just recently?
October 8, 2008 at 10:32 PMUnknown: I am very unhappy with the progress. I think we may only get our OC next year 2009. Maybe in April or May. Passed the construction site and only a handful of workers there.
October 9, 2008 at 12:12 AMPenangites: Heard IJM had moved most of their workers for Spring project to build Summer. It's normal for most of the Constructors to do so, since Spring almost 90 percent completed and it's still within the 3 years deadline to handover the apt to the buyers. From the developer's viewpoint, it's called economic of scale. Utilize the resources wisely.
October 9, 2008 at 8:38 AMABAAS: I bought just recently , 1 weak ago
October 9, 2008 at 9:27 AMUnknown: yesterday i call ijm. they told me this year can take oc.
October 9, 2008 at 10:22 AMUnknown: Hi Basheer,

Welcome to the block.

I think we can get the OC by end of this year. We can actually start looking for the furniture and think how we want to design our new home soon.
October 9, 2008 at 10:26 AMUnknown: Hi Basheer,

Which floor and which block of type C you had bought? You have got it quite reasonable price @ RM240K for Type C.
October 9, 2008 at 11:55 AMABAAS: FACING FERRY, LEVEL 4
October 9, 2008 at 4:18 PMsulin: Hi everyone,

It is likely we will get OC by December 2008.

We shud be positive abt it.

Yes, we can start browsing around for design & funiture wise.
October 9, 2008 at 4:19 PMsulin: Anybody gone to the show unit & view it yet?
October 10, 2008 at 9:05 AMUnknown: Sigh... looks like SPRING will only get OC will be in mid 2009.

Now is already mid OCT and not much progress. In order to obtain oc in Dec 2008, they need to complete the project by end of OCT which is only 2 weeks away. This looks like mission impossible. When I bought, salesman told me oc will get in OCT 2008. Now OCT 2008 is nearly over. Still no news.

Sigh, sighhhhh...........
October 10, 2008 at 4:21 PMABAAS: I just called IJM tey told me that they target to get the OC by enf of this year
October 10, 2008 at 5:25 PMUnknown: I worked in a property developer company in Mainland. Now the Progress billings is stage 2(g), 75% claim, next stage 2(h) is the road work, which normally need 2 weeks to complete (look at the size of the road!), stage 3 is VP 12.5%, usually 2-3 weeks after stage 2(h). stage 4 & OC, 3 weeks / 1 month after VP. Now is OCT, assume early Nov 2 (h), End Nov V.P, The earliest OC is end of Dec 08 already. The OC is normally 3 weeks after VP, but now MPPP ......
October 10, 2008 at 10:32 PMUnknown: Dear Steve,

During Vacant possession, can we go in and inspect our units ?. Maybe take some measurements or something like that ?

Thanks for your help.
October 11, 2008 at 8:45 AMUnknown: Yes. Can do during VP. Please remember that the defect liability period is 24 months from VP, we have to inspect our unit for defect , mesurement etc, then lodge complaint (if any) and then wait the developer to rectify, pls do remember if there are some defect, pls don't let your renovation guy to touch any thing yet, otherwise developer's contractor may say the defecs are due to us.
October 11, 2008 at 11:29 AMUnknown: wow Steve, thanks for the tip.

By the way, I notice some balcony is leaking water. I went there during raining days and you can see the water marks under the leaking balconies.

Do really wet your balconies when you get the chance. The unit under your unit will see the water dripping down.
October 12, 2008 at 11:40 AMCereal Killa 2011: maggie,

are we allowed access to inspect the units? I mean how can you even see the leaking balconies from outside? u sneaked in on a rainy day?

Any idea which unit balconies? Hope its not mine.. :P
October 13, 2008 at 7:25 AMUnknown: hi,

i inspect from outside the fence in the morning immediately after it rained heavily. I use field glasses. If your unit is leaking, there would be a distinctive water mark on the area of leakage. I might be wrong about it but only a few units have that water mark. Mostly units facing the bridge.
October 15, 2008 at 11:43 AMUnknown: The unit for Bumi already release? My frenz Asking he want to buy but dont know whether Bumi lot open for public..

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