The Spring

The Spring condominium located along the Jelutong Expressway that gives a panoramic view of the Penang Bridge. The concept of the project is modern contemporary and emphasizing on its Tropical Garden features.

The Spring Condominium comprises 396 condominium units in total. The built up area ranging from 925 to 1,281 sq.ft.

Property Project : The Spring Condominium
Location : Georgetown, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
Total Units : 396
Built-up Area : approx. 925 - 1,281 sq.ft.
Developer : IJM Properties Sdn Bhd

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May 28, 2008 at 10:15 PMAnonymous: "All, please buy the SPRING. Buy it eventhough it reaches RM350k for smallest, lowest floor, funniest floorplan and worst unit.

You may potentially know me later if you own a unit "

Why? U a poor broker trying to make a quick buck?
May 28, 2008 at 11:23 PMAnonymous: hi all,
did anyone else write to IJM to complain regarding the fence?

-ciplak @ C14-
May 28, 2008 at 11:49 PMAnonymous: Can the non-buyer for this project view the showroom too? Will IJM allow? Any booking needed?
Please advise from any expert...:) Thanks
May 29, 2008 at 12:37 AMAnonymous: Dear Spring owners,

This maybe great news for you, as reported recently in the Edge dated 26/05/08. You can read more about it at http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.jsp?id=com.tms.cms.article.Article_284823e2-cb73c03a-18bbf550-51bc037e

It seems steel prices are rising to worrying levels. Here are some excerps from the report:

"...In the two weeks since the ceiling price was lifted, steel bar prices have shot up to a level surpassing even the "grey" tags contractors had been paying before. Steel prices used to be capped at around RM2,400 per tonne but the grey market price ranged from RM3,000 to RM3,600, says Master Builders Association Malaysia (MBAM) president Patrick Wong. The prices today range from RM3,800 to RM4,000...."

".... For property buyers, brace for higher prices. Wong also sees developers delaying property launches except for the high-end properties where demand remains strong. Yam says the selling price of properties cannot be maintained at current prices. Developers caught in this transition, especially those who are completing their projects in one or two years' time, will suffer as they have to factor in the higher costs leading to margins being compressed, he adds... "

Like it or not steel plays a significant part in project costing. We should be lucky we got our units now. Good luck to those who just signed up for other projects which have just started or going to start. You will be lucky the developer doesn't revise the price.

Cheers...
May 29, 2008 at 12:41 AMAnonymous: Hi Ciplak,
I'll write in regarding the fence as well.Hope they can do something for it.Ciplak,u are realy a enthusiast The Spring owner.If there's any set up of management committee,u must be one of the committee, i wish...Nice to have a such neighbor like u :)
May 29, 2008 at 12:42 AMAnonymous: Can the non-buyer for this project view the showroom too? Will IJM allow? Any booking needed?
Please advise from any expert...:) Thanks

I know of an expert who may be able to help you. His name is IJM Sales Advisor. He has many nicknames such as Ong, Alex or Zaharah. His number is 04-2286359. Good Luck!
May 29, 2008 at 10:44 AMAnonymous: hi anonymous,
i bet i'm as enthusiastic as all of u (especially first time buyer) cos we bought this condo using our own blood & sweat money..

jz confirmed with my colleague staying at Bayswater. we can only establish management committee once our actual occupancy reaches 25%. its not a must to establish the committee but it will be a good "check & balance" system..

anyway, word of caution from my colleague is that, when we received the key, IJM will hold a session in which we'll need to go & check the condition of our unit. if there's any complaint whatsoever (example: wavy wall plaster, light point distorted etc etc), we'll need to highlight there and then..cos they (IJM) won't be held responsible once u signed off the unit..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 29, 2008 at 12:19 PMAnonymous: Noted, Ciplak.
Thanks for the information.
May 29, 2008 at 2:43 PMAnonymous: I met with the sale person today and addressed this issue to him. You guys need to waterfall your disatisfaction on the ugly fence to your respective sales person. Just hope they'll take appropriate action on this.

-CKC-
May 29, 2008 at 3:00 PMAnonymous: You should have 18 months from VP to complaint on the defect. If developer ignores your valid complaint, you may repair yourself and claim through the S&P lawyer. They will use the last 5% (lawyer keep this until after 18 months) for your claim.

This should be inside the S&P.

And developer should reliable for 5 years for any major problem.
May 30, 2008 at 3:00 AMAnonymous: Just went to IJM office today & adviced from my sales representative regarding the fence issue, to get it efficient the best way is to write in to show our dissatisfaction.

To All The Spring Buyers,
Please write in or email to IJM for complaining regarding the horrible fence. Only gather all our power can help ourselves..

More feedback, more efficient..
More complaint, more pressure..
Let's do it, guys & girls..
May 30, 2008 at 10:19 AMAnonymous: i've done my part & i sincerely hope that genuine The Spring buyers will follow suit.. 5min of yr time isn't too long to type & email out to IJM personnel regarding this ugly fence issue..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 30, 2008 at 11:14 AMAnonymous: I have also done my part but I'm afraid our voice won't be heard since only those who purchase Springs to stay will care to voice out. And we all know that Springs's majority purchasers are investors and they won't care whether the fence is nice or not. So sad...
May 30, 2008 at 11:35 AMAnonymous: The Spring owner really funny. They don't mind the dumpsite, sewerage plant, smelly, highways, burning rubbish, low cost area, leasehold, but the mind the ugly fence...
May 30, 2008 at 1:15 PMAnonymous: The Spring owner really funny. They don't mind the dumpsite, sewerage plant, smelly, highways, burning rubbish, low cost area, leasehold, but the mind the ugly fence...

hey man, do u think we are stupid as u? Do u think u are chief Minister of penang who can change the dumpsite, sewerage plant, smelly, highways, burning rubbish, low cost area, leasehold, easily???

But now we are doing wat we can do lah....Not like you, cos u dint own The Sping house...so sigh!
May 30, 2008 at 1:35 PMAnonymous: Hey to the person who called another person stupid, it's not nice to do that. In fact, it's rude. This is a blog spot. Anybody can leave negative & positive comments here. You can't scold ppl like that. If you don like his/her comments, you can reply your opinion. Don stoop to calling names. We are educated ppl.
May 30, 2008 at 2:06 PMAnonymous: When is the estimate date The Spring can get OC? Can someone share the news?
May 30, 2008 at 4:49 PMDave: hi I'm one of the Spring owner. Just signed my S&P yesterday. Doesn't realize the fence issue, will check it out later. Did any one about converting lease hold to free hold in Penang??
May 30, 2008 at 6:14 PMAnonymous: tentative date of OC is november according to IJM staff. As for the fence, one of the staff has mentioned that while that is the actual fence, it will not remain like that as they plan to have it as part of some landscaping, maybe grow shrubs or plants over it. After all, the Spring is modelled after tropical setting. Hopefully thats true huh? :)
May 30, 2008 at 11:55 PMAnonymous: I hope tat emotional extremist who bombarded ppl "stupid" out of no reason for such retaliation while adding pointless comments, isn't my immediate neighbour.. else i might b faulted for no apparent reason. relax...
May 30, 2008 at 11:56 PMAnonymous: calling ppl stupid is like the pot calling the kettle black
May 31, 2008 at 9:43 AMAnonymous: hi everyone up there who complaint about the ugly fence, may i know what fence you are referring to? the one around the apartment corridor walkway or on the ground surrounding the entire apartment? I am one of the owner too, i do really care about the condition. I will write in once i understand more. thanks!
May 31, 2008 at 8:13 PMAnonymous: IJM have confirm that is permenant fence. They wont change it..
IJM sold the unit as what is launch at that time meaning they wont spend more to change it..

** I am one of the owner :(

That fence make the whole building look sooooo low class...hate it
June 1, 2008 at 2:48 AMAnonymous: hi all,
went to IJM's show unit today. same setup as shown in photos..anyway, the perimeter fencing will remain the same but there will be shrubs & greens grown over/around it.. IJM personnel told me that it will be done by professional landscaping company using imported trees & shrubs.. hope the end result will live up to its Spring theme..

my other concern is regarding the Promenade area. i saw 2 roadside stalls setup exactly opposite of Nautilus project to cater for jaywalkers around the Promenade & also few couples courting in the dark areas... i sincerely hope that this Promenade will not turn into similar condition as Queensbay's beach area.. it will disastrous if that happens..

-ciplak @ C14-
June 1, 2008 at 10:42 AMAnonymous: Great to heard the rubbish dump will move to other place and fence will landscaping nicely. we are slowly lost -ve condition and happy to move in nov.

~3amQueuer
June 1, 2008 at 2:18 PMAnonymous: Anybody check with IJM if they are going to continue to pursue for freehold status for our beloved The Spring? I think we need to start to give IJM some push since CM Lim Guan Eng gave the thumbs up for freehold status application to start. I believe you guys as The Spring owners as i do would like to see it happens. Cheer~

Type-C-Owner
June 1, 2008 at 2:50 PMAnonymous: Fren,

Speaking from my understanding, anyone who wish to apply for freehold status must surrender their land back to Penang state governemnt first before they are allowed to apply.

In that case, if we surrender the land, Penang government might want to use the land for something else. So in the end, we might end up with nothing.

Let me rephase that. For the current leasedhold status, we only need to surrended the land after 99 years. If want freehold, we need to surrender it back NOW. Might end up with nothing at all. Not even our SPRING.

~Chin Eng~
June 1, 2008 at 3:09 PMAnonymous: unlikely now unless we get all our strata titles in the future and we collectively go for conversion. I think that would mean all 396 units and not one less...
June 1, 2008 at 9:06 PMAnonymous: I have confirm with IJM, is will be leasehold forever...
June 1, 2008 at 9:16 PMAnonymous: as far as IJM is in the picture, they will not pursue. Later when we get our strata titles, we may act by ourselves collectively. Just a probability.
June 2, 2008 at 12:32 AMAnonymous: Hey guys, how long did your lawyer take to ask you to sign for loan agreement? I was told i supposed to get a copy of S&P after it get stamped. Anyone has got it?How long should we normally wait? What to do next?

confuse...
June 2, 2008 at 8:46 AMAnonymous: hi 3am Queuer,
You're my hero!! jz to let u know that you've set a whole new standard for queuing up for a condo unit :-) so which unit u managed to get by being the first?

Hi Chin Eng,
does that mean that we've to engage our own lawyers to "fight" for freehold status IF we managed to get consent from all 396 units?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 2, 2008 at 10:34 AMAnonymous: i did check with IJM too... they told me they due to Spring will get OC soon & the value of this property is not worth to apply for free hold, so free hold is not in their plan, coz is not worth...
June 2, 2008 at 10:58 AMAnonymous: What I meant was, it is not easy to obtain freehold status. Before we can apply, first we have to return the land to the government. Once you return, the land is no longer ours. We can't even stay in it anymore.

The problem is, the government might not want to give you the plot of land back at all. I think it's kind of risky right ? Unless the 99 years leased is almost up.

Anyway, I might be wrong on this. Just speaking from understanding.

~Chin Eng~
June 2, 2008 at 2:48 PMAnonymous: hi all Spring owners,

If you like IJM to build a better fencing then you have to send a group protest mails rather that sent it out individually. It carried more weight.

I am OceanView owner and previously we face the same fencing issue like you. Initially IJM just build the wire fencing (so ugly and no security)and after we residents protest in group (getting all the owner signatures), finally we got the nice fencing (bricks fencing) as what you seen today.

Good luck..
June 2, 2008 at 10:42 PMAnonymous: Sorry for spoil the market. Actually, i just worry couldn't get the particular type of unit i like. Even remain 2 units for me to choose in that morning but end up becomes last choice that is because IJM sold out to politic ppl in last minutes. This is really a "rich ppl getting richer, poor ppl getting poooorer" game.
i wondering why we care about freehold convert as sub-sale oreli gain ~50K and also the building cant stay over 100 years. Anyway, this is nice to have. :P For fence issue, i am ok to sign the group protest mails but in term of what IJM afraid to this group protest? or may be it will look nicer after build landscaping.

~3am
June 3, 2008 at 10:03 AMAnonymous: Someone told me that IJM sold the units partly to IJM staffs itself, or someone closed to them. Not sure if they required to sign S&P and get any loan. For some of other condo, they no need to sign anything, just wait until some other buyer take over their unit.
If true, I wish to apply job in IJM.
Leasehold unit having potential to be depreciated toward to end. If you sell it in 5~10 years time, should be OK.
If apply freehold, need to pay more money. But I think it is worth to apply for.
Fencing issue, it is better to voice up now than regret. It might be nice after the landscaping completed, and it might be not.
June 3, 2008 at 9:09 PMMR.: I'm The Spring Owner. Count me in for the group feedback to IJM with regards to the fencing issue!
June 4, 2008 at 10:20 AMAnonymous: MR, before having any group complaint, maybe you can consider to write a personal email to IJM first.

I've writte a complaint to IJM, and I hope that they'll really look into this issue.
June 4, 2008 at 2:20 PMAnonymous: Hi all genuine The Spring owners,
i hope all of you will continuously write to IJM to complain regarding the fence issue.
perhaps it might not be ugly or perhaps it will be but its not advisable to take chances over our hard earned $$ don't u think so?

anyway, if any of you happen to work in FTZ area, take note of KNOWLES and SPANSION facilities. these 2 factories are using the same type of fence. not so bad actually but these are factories and not condo..so we'll never know the end result though..

btw, any of u got calls from law firm to collect the stamped SPA and bank docs for EPF withdrawal yet?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 4, 2008 at 4:21 PMAnonymous: anyone know how many lift available on the SOUTH and NORTH wing??
Can someone give me an answer?
June 4, 2008 at 4:28 PMAnonymous: I very anxious and have been calling the lawyer and ijm 3 times a week about the S&P. The S&P is stuck in ijm since last week. According to the lawyer, ijm have not yet sign the S&P. Called Jacky Chan but he ask me to call back tomorrow as the person incharge of the S&P is on leave.

~Chin Eng~
June 4, 2008 at 4:49 PMAnonymous: South 2 lifts, North 2 lifts.

~Chin Eng~
June 4, 2008 at 10:25 PMAnonymous: Hi Ciplak,
You are most welcome on the kitchen designers list. Btw, there is a sales from June 6 onwards at Signature Kitchen @ Gurney Plaza. For those who is interested may bring along your house layout to ask for a free quotation.

I have got my S&P stamped and collected.

Andrea
June 5, 2008 at 11:18 AMAnonymous: South 2 lifts, North 2 lifts.
Enough???

How do u all think?
June 5, 2008 at 1:38 PMAnonymous: hi Chin Eng,
pls leave ur blog entry here if u managed to get yr SPA stamped bcos i signed the same time as u. i guess we'll get our stamped SPA at the same time. btw, did u select ur own panel of lawyers or u took the one pre-selected by IJM?
any idea of the advantages & disadvantages of us choosing pre-selected lawyers over non-panel lawyers? anyone care to advise me?

Hi Andrea,
i received one leaflet from GCF and they're offering 0% installment over 12 months for purchases made using credit cards from selected banks (HSBC, Citi, CIMB). i might drop by GCF this weekend to check it out..

btw, i'm glad we bought The Spring considering the fact that there're no more ceiling price for steel, cement & now petrol price has gone up so much..whew...!!

-ciplak @ C14-
June 5, 2008 at 2:43 PMAnonymous: """South 2 lifts, North 2 lifts.
Enough???

How do u all think?""""

No matter what u think, number of lifts will remain.....Don't dream IJM will increase the lifts....
When u bought that time, u have already known... Dont u?
June 5, 2008 at 3:48 PMAnonymous: GCF stands for what ?
June 5, 2008 at 6:50 PMAnonymous: Ciplak,

our S&P have been stamped and is ready for collection. Please call your lawyer.

cheers

~Chin Eng~
June 6, 2008 at 12:24 AMAnonymous: Anonymous said...
GCF stands for what ?

June 5, 2008 12:48 AM

To the above anonymous...GCF is located at E-Gate.
Fyi, besides the 0% easy payment scheme; you may enjoy up to 25% discount when you purchase a GCF kitchen set and there are a lot of freebies to grab too.
www.gcf.com.my

Andrea
June 6, 2008 at 2:05 PMAnonymous: hi all,
i hope government won't adjust the BLR rate after this huge impact on petrol & electricity. else gone case cos most of us took BLR based loan..

-ciplak @ 14-
June 6, 2008 at 4:51 PMDave: how many of you already complaint to IJM about the fence?? It really looks like going to be permanent. If you guy want to make a group complaint pls count me too.
June 7, 2008 at 4:51 PMAnonymous: i dun tink Govt will revise the rate that fast ler..buy anyway i took Public's 5 years fixed..ha ha!
June 7, 2008 at 4:55 PMAnonymous: Dear all,

I have checked with one lawyer on the freehold conversion. He informed that conversion is possible before the strata titles are issued but there must be consensus among all the 396 owners and must be willing to pay conversion premium. Also, there shouldn't be a problem for banks to provide consent for conversion cos ultimately they will be ending up holding an even higher value property.
June 8, 2008 at 8:09 AMAnonymous: How much is the conversion premium ?

I would like very much to have SPRING converted to freehold but I am very tight in cash. Now having terrible headache finding money to do renovation and furnitures. Have emptied everything just to buy SPRING. Somemore at the very last minute IJM raise the price by 10K (alot of $$$).

Mi Lien
June 8, 2008 at 3:48 PMAnonymous: too early to determine the conversion premium. We will have to see how much govt charge if any existing leasehold condos decide to convert after July 15th...
June 9, 2008 at 12:37 AMAnonymous: ciplak/Chin Eng
when did you guys sign S&P and when you got your S&P and loan agreement stamped?? Just rougly want to check the expected duration days taken for the process.

-CKC-
June 9, 2008 at 10:05 AMAnonymous: Yesterday finally step in the spring to view the actual layout. I feel The Spring Condo just need some minus renovation. I already sent the complain to IJM about the fencing design.Hope IJM can consider our complain and change the fencing design.
June 9, 2008 at 11:01 AMAnonymous: Good news !

Just called up IJM this morning. IJM said that they are going to change the fencing. Have not confirmed what is the finalised fence but they will definately change the existing one due to lots of complaints.

~Chin Eng~
June 9, 2008 at 11:25 AMAnonymous: Hi CKC,

Got my S&P stamped but not my loan agreement. Got my loan from Maybank. Already two weeks since I sign my LOF.

My friend got from OCBC. He got his loan agreement stamped within a week.

~Chin Eng~
June 9, 2008 at 2:01 PMAnonymous: hi all,
i won't mind paying for the conversion to freehold because in long run, we will have better return to our property.. but definately not now cos:
1) I'm cash strapped :-P
2) We need approval from all units
3) We havent got our OC yet

btw, i havent got my stamped SPA and bank loan yet but the law firm Winston Ng & Teoh said i should be getting it by tomorrow cos they received one parcel from IJM last Friday.
then i'm gonna go get my EPF withdrawal asap :-)

thanks to Chin Eng for update..m glad tat they finally decided to change the fencing.. yippee!!

btw, did any of u notice the amount of traffic at the new promenade?! im baffled when i saw the amount of ppl walking around there especially at night.. i pity the Nautilus owners btw..hehe..

btw, thanks to Andrea, i approached Signature Kitchen & GCF Kitchen as well.
and i got the following info:

1) LSS electrical offers 5% for 1yr installment and 7% for 2yrs installment for Maybank Credit Card. i plan to get all my electrical appliances from there.
2) still waiting for free quotation from GCF and Signature Kitchen

-ciplak @ C14-
June 9, 2008 at 7:04 PMAnonymous: Hi, great job to all of the resident! Finally they plan to change the design, and I hope that they'll make a new and nicer one :)

I think when there's a chance to change the title to freehold, should do it as soon as possible before government change their mind. Anyway, we have to wait until get the consent from 396 units. No choice :)

My solicitor is Winston Ng and Teoh too. I not yet got my S&P stamped, and I hope that mine is one of the S&P in the parcel that sent to it. Hehehe. Can't wait to get my S&P and read through it (I hope that I can understand as much as I can) -_-"

My loan agreement will be prepared by B. C. Teh (Ambank's panel). Just called and knew that it is not ready yet :( I hope that I can get all documents done asap!

I went to Signature Kitchen just now, and the wardrobe is nice. Well, not yet check out the price at GCF. Will have a look next weekend! :)

Can't wait to get my key... :p

~ Amy ~
June 10, 2008 at 2:02 PMAnonymous: To those who doesn't want to do put window and door grill, you may consider to tint your door and windows with LLumar.

LLumar safety and security films are heavy-duty polyester films bonded by especially aggressive adhesives. When applied to glass in commercial and residential buildings, they can prevent much of the destruction caused by flying glass shards in windstorms, earthquakes, terrorist attacks or accidents. Upgrading existing glazing to meet safety regulations is quick and cost-effective with retrofit films. LLumar films meet or exceed specifications and requirements set forth by numerous international testing standards.

Llumar Auto Safety Tint Film is an exclusive product and available only at authorized Llumar dealer.

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CP TINT WINDOW FILM. 171-C Jalan Sungai Pinang. HP 016-415 1508

CARLSON TINT SHOP. No 42, Persiaran Mahsuri 2 Sunway Tunas, Bayan Baru, Penang. P 04-640 6372

Llumar Malaysia website: www.llumarmalaysia.net

~Andrea~
June 11, 2008 at 11:09 AMAnonymous: ciplak, I just called over to Winston Ng and Teoh, and was told that my S&P already stamped. Maybe you can call over to check yours :)

~ Amy ~
June 11, 2008 at 9:42 PMAnonymous: I went to EPF office today to submit my form for withdrawal. Below are the forms required when you submit for your house withdrawal:
1) Photocopy of your IC
2) Current account statement or first page of you saving account book (Active account)
3) Photocopy of your S & P document
4) 10% downpayment recepts
5) Bank offer letter
You must remember to bring your original documents together as the EPF officer needs to verify against your photocopy documents.
June 11, 2008 at 9:48 PMAnonymous: I went to GCF & Signature Kitchen today. I realised that the designs display at GSF is nicer than Signature Kitchen. Besides that, the price for kitchen cabinet from GCF is cheaper compare to Signature Kitchen as well as the there are more variety of colours for the kitchen top at GCF compare to Signature Kitchen. On top of that, the prices and qualities for kitchen appliances in GCF can be consider.

I will go to Bravo and Verra Kitchen to get the quotations within these few days. I will update you all about it.
June 11, 2008 at 9:53 PMAnonymous: I went to Llumar shop today. They reallay have the security, safety, UV protection, etc tinted film. It cost around RM45 per sq ft.

However, if you use another brand which have the same qualities or features, you just need to pay RM35per sq ft.

I highly recommend this as it looks better than putting the window grill or door grill.
June 11, 2008 at 11:29 PMAnonymous: hi Andrea,
thanks for the posting..i havent got my SPA stamped yet. now still with IJM..hopefully i can get it fast as well..

btw, how much is the quotation from Signature vs GCF? what unit did u buy anyway? mine is C14. yours? may i know where is Bravo and Verra? did u try out Matrix kitchen?
i intend to get quotation from Bofi but i guess it will be expensive or above my budget range..

also where is Llumar? is the tinting viewable from the other side during night time?

my friend advised me that it will be cheaper if we ask the ID to cover kitchen items as well. we jz have to tell them the kind of design we want..

i'm actually confused on the sequence to renovate our unit, which one comes first? light, paint, ID, Kitchen etc etc..haih...

-ciplak @ C14-
June 12, 2008 at 1:55 PMAnonymous: Wiring (extra power point/ switch) > Plaster ceiling (if any) > Kitchen > Other ID > Drill > lights/ fans/ air-con > painting.

Just my opinion
June 12, 2008 at 5:40 PMAnonymous: wah..u guys sharing info on how to renovate place liao while other blogs are still discussing whether their projects will be delayed / abandoned.. ha ha! What a lucky lot!
June 12, 2008 at 5:56 PMAnonymous: Hi Ciplak,

You got to keep chasing your lawyer and IJM staff. If not, they will keep delay the S&P. I keep chasing them, therefore I got my S&P fast.

I bought unit A06. The differences between GCF and Signature kitchen is around RM3.5K++ difference. By the way, have you get your quotation from GCF and Signature Kitchen?

Brano Kitchen
Address: 98-A, Jalan Air Itam, 10460 Penang.
Contact number: 04-229 9298
Website: www.branokitchen.com

Verra Kitchen
Address: No. 12G, Persiaran Bayan Indah, Bayan Bay, 11900 Penang
Contact Number: 04-6449443

May I know where is Matrix Kitchen & Bofi in Penang? By the way, you may ask the kitchen suppliers to quote the kitchen appliances for you. You may go around to do the survey on the price. I don't think I will get all my kitchen appliances from the kitchen suppliers as I do have time to go around to do survey and get the most suitable kitchen appliances and I will have more choices to select compare to get from the kitchen supplier.

Llumar Auto Safety Tint Film is an exclusive product and available only at authorized Llumar dealer.

PENANG Branch

CP TINT WINDOW FILM. 171-C Jalan Sungai Pinang. HP 016-415 1508

CARLSON TINT SHOP. No 42, Persiaran Mahsuri 2 Sunway Tunas, Bayan Baru, Penang. P 04-640 6372

Llumar Malaysia website: www.llumarmalaysia.net

I get to know from Mr Winson yesterday. He is the supplier of Llumar. He recommended me another tinted film from US which has the same quality as Llumar but cheaper compare to Llumar. It's only RM25 per sq ft. Mr Wilson suggested that I look for another friend to do together as he is able to give me better rate on it. By the way, for those who wants Mr Winson to demonstrate how security/safety of the tinted film...from avoiding burglary to brake into the house...you may call him @ 012-402 1813.
June 12, 2008 at 8:09 PMAnonymous: Andrea,

You are A13-06? Cos I am A11-06....so we are neighbours actually.

Email me :) hongnemo77@yahoo.com
June 12, 2008 at 8:44 PMAnonymous: Matrix Kitchen is also in e-Gate, just 2 shoplots away from GCF.
Bofi is situated along Gottlieb Road, before Peng Hwa. I didn't go there coz it looked so deserted. Heard that they would ask whether your budget is above RM30K, else they will not do. Dunno how true. Let me know.
Thanks.
For GCF, find Ang, he's the senior kitchen designer there.
June 12, 2008 at 11:17 PMAnonymous: Hello all,

Do you all know that GCF not only offers kitchen furnitures, but they offer to do the whole house's furniture for you? They will help you to design, match colours, etc. It acts like a 1-stop new house furniture shop. I got to know about this through brochere I received from GCF. However, I don know much about the price range.

There's another place you guys can consider. It's Devon. Not famous as Signature Kitchen or Kamay but I think can be considered lo since it's also like a 1-stop shop. Devon is situated just right next to Arredo in Macalister Road. It's a tiny shop to the left of Arredo (within Arredo's premise).

They offer to do everything from renovation to helping you purchase materials likes tiles and giving ideas on interior design. Plaster ceiling quoted to me was RM2.80/sq. ft. A simple small kitchen is RM3K+ including build-in stove and ventilator. The workmanship and material is of course ordinary. Not good not bad type.

Just my opinion. You guys can go over and get a quotation. By the way, Arredo's furniture is not bad and price ok also.

P.S: I'm not a Spring house owner. Wanted to buy. Was at the soft launch in E&O. Din manage to get a unit. Now bought other place instead but still occasionally visit Spring's blogspot. Happy staying!
June 13, 2008 at 11:27 AMAnonymous: Just called IJM this morning. They said their's boss decided to remain the same fence. I think we need to send a group protest mails.
June 13, 2008 at 11:52 AMAnonymous: The plaster ceiling price just RM2.80/sqf form Devon? Is it true? If true, can do for whole apartment
June 13, 2008 at 3:49 PMAnonymous: i am fine to have group protest mails. Just let me know what is next step. May be we can meet up in IJM office to progess it.

~3am
June 13, 2008 at 4:39 PMDave: Ya email me as well, if you all want to send a group letter.
June 13, 2008 at 4:44 PMDave: Let's see how many will join in for the group compliant. Leave your email at below:
1) kingtang80@gmail.com
2)
3)
June 13, 2008 at 5:19 PMAnonymous: Hi all,
Does anybody knows the pricing for wall paper? Or any shops to reccommend?
I heard wallpaper could be 10x the price of paints... true...?
June 13, 2008 at 6:26 PMAnonymous: I think we should keep on send the complaint letter to IJM. I heard that this decision is make from their's boss, Mr. Teh Kean Ming. Whoever want to send the complaint email, pls directly send to kmteh@ijm.com
June 13, 2008 at 11:07 PMAnonymous: _______________________
Enquiry - The Spring
Date: 28-05-2008 11:17

Message: i am one of the the spring buyer. yesterday i went to the spring take a look on the status and progress, i noticed the fence look ugly, unsafe , no standard and cheap. is the fence design constructed permanently? i am not really understand this cause this will drop IJM standard in quality as well as reputation.let me know, thanks a lot.

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June 9, 2008, 5:18 pm RE: The Spring Enquiry (28-05-2008 11:17) zahrah

Dear Max

Sorry for the late reply due to our server down. Actually we are giving this type of fencing that the architect propose is because this fence is now very popular in KL. What we get the feedback from purchaser they doesn't like it. So now the management is looking on changing it.

So hope you can bare with us till the new design is out.Thanks for your comment. We will look very seriously into this.

Thank you very much and with Best Regards;

_______________________
Wan Zahrah Wan Abdullah
Senior Sales & Marketing Executive

_________________

Here is the reply from IJM, is IJM changed the decision recently from what they commit?can someone confirm that?thanks

~3am
June 13, 2008 at 11:37 PMAnonymous: Guys,

Here is the email i got from one of the staff...

" Dear All,
Just to give u the latest update is that we are now taking down the tower crane and we will be doing the road soon.
For the fence , IJM is geting the landscape architect to come out with a improve version but I cant say much for now as I am not very sure how it will look like. But please bear in mind that this fence is not cheap .
Thank you"

The mystery of the Spring's fence goes on....... :)
June 13, 2008 at 11:47 PMAnonymous: Please count me in for the spring group protest on fencing.
June 13, 2008 at 11:56 PMAnonymous: hey anonymous on the top,
i received that email as well. it is from Alex right? if i interpret it correctly, it means IJM is not gonna do anything about it except to spruce it up with some plants/shrubs.

hi Dave,
count me in pls if u intend to write mass protest letter to IJM..

Hi Andrea,
do you work? seems like you have alot of time to go around looking for contacts to make up the new house. i really appreciate all your help & posting all the findings here..cos i'm gonna follow ur lead & get all the quotations beforehand :-)

looks like The Spring is the only blog which discusses on renovation stuff instead of whether the developer will abscond or not..hehe

-ciplak @ C14-
June 14, 2008 at 12:15 AMAnonymous: Yes, that's the plaster ceiling price quoted to me from Devon. But I'm not sure it the tiny shop I went to (next to Arredo) is part of Devon. But the name card has Devon's name on it la. The RM2.80 is just plaster ceiling. Not inclusive of holes for lights, lights, wiring and painting. Holes for lights is about RM10/hole. Lights vary between RM10-20. I was told after everything is done, painting need to be re-do as plaster will get to some of the walls. You can contact Mr. Oon 012-4352976

To the anonymous who wants to put up wallpaper, maybe you can go to Devon also. However, I don know the quotation. Try calling the above Mr. Oon. There's another shop where you can go to. It's Classic Decoration S/B. At Jalan Pangkor. It's opposite Thai restaurant, Prontip. Contact person Mr. Chin 012-4852236. In Classic, they are more into curtains but I saw they have wall papers as well. Quite nice design. Again, I don know what is the price.
June 14, 2008 at 1:10 AMAnonymous: ya...i do agree that the 'naked' fence surrounding The Spring does look abit ugly for the time being. but who knows, maybe it might turn up looking great with all the plants and shrubs being planted on later? just a benefit of a doubt though.
i bet that with such a reputable developer, they wont just leave the fence unattended as it is now when the whole apartment is ready as this project was highly anticipated by many even before the launch of this project. but of course, better still if its fully concrete as to protect the home-owners' privacy and it will too boost up the outlook of the apartment.
either way, the apartment will still look great. have faith in IJM to make this apartment a prosperous one.
cheers~~
black @ B15
June 14, 2008 at 6:22 PMAnonymous: Dear all,
great to heard all the voice and thanks to all sharing the info for "The Spring".

Dave,
count me in for the fencing issue. it make the property look so unsafe n hope they can change it like one of the comment from oceanview owner said.
thamvb@hotmail.com
June 16, 2008 at 9:20 AMAnonymous: Some questions.
a. How high is the ceiling ?

b. Roughly when can OC be obtained ?

c. When are we able to enter the site to view our unit ?
June 16, 2008 at 2:44 PMAnonymous: Re: 50% stamp duty exemption

PM tables three-pronged Budget 2008

To further stimulate the property sector in particular housing, the Government proposes that a 50% stamp duty exemption on documents of transfer be given for the purchase of one house of not more than RM250,000 per unit.

For those purchaser not more than RM250K per unit, kindly check this with your lawyer.
June 16, 2008 at 3:35 PMAnonymous: To the house owner of A11-06 - I am not staying at A13-06. I am staying Block 6 not Block 13.

Hi Ciplak,

I am full time worker la. Normally I will email my floor plan with my requirements to the kitchen designer before I visit them. The purpose of my visit to the shop is to take a look on their designs and their work quality...hehe.

I had visited Brano last Sunday...their kitchen designs look okay to me. I am still waiting for their quotation.
June 16, 2008 at 10:38 PMAnonymous: dear all, i m new to this blogsite. i own a type A unit. can anyone update me on the progress of the spring ie. oc, fencing application of freehold status??

vortices777@yahoo.com
June 16, 2008 at 11:11 PMAnonymous: hi vortices777@yahoo.com,
welcome to the blog. since ur new here, it would be better for u to read thru at least the latest blogs to read thru the entries.

Hi Andrea,
i was at Brano last Sunday as well :-) actually i do prefer Brano's design compared to the rest. i've visited Signature, Devon, GCF and Brano Kitchen but yet to receive their quotations. but i prefer Brano's showcase design near the entrance :-)

IMHO, it would be hard to gauge how much we need to modify our kitchen now don't u think so?

havent got my SPA stamped yet..argh.!!

hi 3am,
have u received your stamped SPA yet?

how long does it take for us to get the EPF $$?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 17, 2008 at 12:41 AMAnonymous: My S&P also not yet stamped, i signed it 2 weeks ago.=.= is there anyone know how fast we can get $ from EPF? since everything increase price, should we faster pay quatation for renovation 1st even not yet get OC?

~3am
June 17, 2008 at 7:27 AMAnonymous: 3 weeks to get EPF money. However, my friend receive it in 2 weeks.

~Chin Eng~
June 17, 2008 at 9:30 AMAnonymous: Hi Ciplak & 3am,

I would suggest that you keep on calling your lawyer firm to chase after them everyday. I get a call from a friend of mine who is a lawyer, she was worried for her client too as the S & P lawyer haven't return the S&P to her client. According to my friend, IJM will be asking for the payment soon...and worried that if her client didn't get her S&P, then there will be interest imposed from IJM to her client. I suggest that for those who haven't get your S&P stamped...keep calling your lawyer firm everyday.

As for EPF withdrawal, do not need to worry as it's really efficient. You are able to get your EPF withrawal within a week time.

Ciplak,

I agreed that Brano has a nice display. However, if you observe clearly...the lift systems which enable you to lift up fronts...isn't that good compare to GCF. So, to those who wants to use the lift systems for their top cabinets, try to ask them whether they have another brand of lift system brand. The lift system kitchen cabinets that display at the entries of the shop isn't a good quality one.
June 17, 2008 at 10:00 PMAnonymous: Hi Andrea & Ciplak,

You guys are really dedicated to this blog. :)
The lift system used in GCF is from BLUM. It's very expensive though, around RM500-600 but it comes with a lifetime warranty.
Brano's lift system is not that good but the kitchen cabinet design is nice.
They are the only ones using glass cabinets if I'm not mistaken.
June 17, 2008 at 11:17 PMAnonymous: Yes, the lift system used by GCF is BLUM. Even though it cost RM500-600 but it's life time warranty. I felt that it's really worth the value.

Brano is not the only kitchen designer that have glass design cabinets. I have visited at least seven shops on kitchen designers shop...they doesn't have any issue preparing the quotation on glass cabinet for me. Of course, I didn't request glass for the whole kitchen cabinet. I only requests tempered glass for the top cabinets.
June 18, 2008 at 9:42 AMAnonymous: Hi, all,

For those who can read Chinese, you might want to check this out: http://www.myhomelife.com.tw/index/

There are some design idea here :)

~ Amy ~
June 18, 2008 at 12:05 PMAnonymous: hi anonymous,
there are many dedicated ppl to this blog as well..ppl like 3am, chin eng, andrea, amy, bi lian and etc :-)

btw andrea,
what are the specs u asked for when u request for kitchen quotation? mind sharing it here? what is the most expensive quotation u got so far? for example, my first visit was to signature and when the guy asked what's my budget, i said between rm15k ~ rm25k but he said not enough if i were to include the TEKA hob and hood.. imagine my surprise :-P

-ciplak @ C14-
June 18, 2008 at 12:33 PMAnonymous: Ciplak,

RM15K for kitchen reno for Signature Kitchen & Brano is dfinitely not enough. First, consider the material that you are using, for chipboard, RM10K is also enough. Then we have the solid surface. Signature's solid surface is very expensive. They are using LG HiMacs. Lastly we have the appliances. Teka & Ariston will burn a hole in your pocket. Try buying from outside.

Andrea,
Which other shops are using glass cabinets? What do you think of it? They look nice but I'm afraid kids may injure themselves when they knock into it. MDF and membrane press are also nice but they are hard to maintain. Once scratched, gone case. For glossy MDF, the glossiness may fade over time if you don't take care of it.
I actually bought the BLUM system. Asking my contractor to install for me. :)

Anonymous BW
June 19, 2008 at 12:45 AMAnonymous: hi anonymous BW,
thanks for the feedback. reason i allocated RM15k ~ RM25k is bcos still need to budget for other expenses..furnitures, lighting, electrical appliances and so on..total figure is mind boggling...die die die :-P

for kitchen, actually i'm kinda blur especially on the material usage..but thanks to your input, i might be able to take yr hints into consideration.. btw, what are the potential defects for chipboard, layered wood & solid wood?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 19, 2008 at 9:53 AMAnonymous: wow... ciplak, my budget for kitchen is only RM10K.

bi lien
June 19, 2008 at 11:44 AMAnonymous: My budget for my kitchen is only around RM10K - RM15K.

Hi BW,

Verra Kitchen, Signature Kitchen, Visukamma Design S/B, Roset Interiors S/B does have glass cabinets. However, I only request for top cabinets using glass cabinet. The bottom cabinets..I don't use glass as it's not easy to take care of it. By the way, may I know which contractor did you engage with?

Most of my quotations are within RM13K to RM17K...however, I still haven't really look through the quotations in details yet. There are some of the kitchen appliances and accessories...I will not get it from the kitchen designer shop. The reason is there isn't any promotion now and it will be more expensive to buy now. Unlike the kitchen cabinet, we can place order by booking it first as the price of the materials are increasing now...certain shops are doing promotions now as it's due to the materials for the kitchen will be increase after end of this month. My suggestion is please do go and visit all the kitchen designer within these this month and ask them to give you quotation ASAP. Please remember don't pay them in full as we still haven't get our key yet. Do ask the vendor how much do you need to pay if you want to place a deposit for booking...and will only settle partial of the payment upon OC obtain. The reason is you still need them to do the measurement once more for you as it will not be accurate just base on the house layout plan.
June 19, 2008 at 12:34 PMAnonymous: Hi Bi Lian & Andrea,
how do u keep the kitchen reno to RM10k ~ RM15k? mind sharing the info? what are the specs u have in mind? ru gonna use Kitchen ID or General ID?

actually i don't even know how the kitchen will look like in the first place so the quotation i get might be redundant in the end except for minor modification..which i fervently hope so la.. :-P

btw, in The Spring leaflet, it was mentioned that we will have 2 Heater Points..if the design is according to Bayswater condo, Heater Point will be something like hotel concept of split Hot & Cold shower knob.. i wonder what about The Spring..anyone have any idea on this matter?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 19, 2008 at 12:56 PMAnonymous: Never heard before Visukamma Design S/B? Where the shop located? Any contact or email address?
June 19, 2008 at 2:05 PMAnonymous: Visukamma Design Sdn Bhd
Show Room:
Add: 249 E, Jalan Dato Keramat, 10150 Penang
Tel: 04-226 6441
Email: visukamma_design@yahoo.com or perfectkitchen@yahoo.com
Project manager: Mr Rayson @ 019-4418441
June 19, 2008 at 4:05 PMAnonymous: Dear Ciplak,

You have to access what you want, what you can actually have, and what you would work best for. Everyone will have different requirements. E.g. I am the type who loves to cook and baking cakes. On top of that, I love to hold parties at my house during special occasions. Thus, I have plenty of kitchen utensils such as plates and pots. Therefore, I will need more cabinets or storage place to keep my stuffs. The reasons I choose glass for my top kitchen cabinets are your kitchen will look bigger and brighter.

Here are some websites you may read through to get some hints:-
1) http://www.kitchens.com/01-Kitchen-Design/Kitchen-Space-Planning/kitchen-layouts.asp

2) http://www.nkba.org/guidelines/kitchen.aspx

3) http://renomart.com.au/the-39-essential-guidelines-of-kitchen-design/

4)http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to-design-a-kitchen.htm

5)http://healthy-lifestyle.most-effective-solution.com/2007/11/22/feng-shui-your-living-room/
June 19, 2008 at 5:28 PMAnonymous: mmmh... andrea, u like to party ?. Can we all go to your unit to party during your open house ? :-)

desperado
June 19, 2008 at 6:48 PMAnonymous: Ciplak,

Actually chipboard is easy to take care of.I don't think it can be scratched easily. However since it's laminated, make sure those guys are doing a good job coz the laminates may 'bubble' up. I guess solid wood is still the best if you like country style type of kitchen but it's expensive. Nowadays ppl are increasingly using MDF. Looks nicer.

Andrea,

How big is your kitchen? With chipboard, you can get the whole kitchen done for RM13K. MDF will be more expensive by around RM2-3K while glass cabinets another 20% extra. I'm not an owner of the Spring. Just browsing thru & help out whenever possible.

Guys,

If you are going for Signature Kitchen, don't use their solid surface. Very expensive. They are using LG HiMacs, much more expensive than other imported ones. The imported one (pure white from Samsung Staron)) is around RM220 per ft run (dunno whether it has gone up). The ones with colors are RM280 per ft run. I got the local made ones which cost only RM180 per ft run. These prices are standard. Cannot get any cheaper. Alternatively, you can use tiles or granite instead. Much cheaper but solid surface still looks better. :)
The furniture & appliances will kill you! Dining table + sofa + fridge + oven is around RM10K already! Somemore you have to buy hood/hob/mattresses/wardrobes/tv cabinets etc.
Don't forget that the quotation that the kitchen specialist gave you is only for the cabinets & tops. Masonry/piping/plumbing/wiring are NOT included! You guys should also factor them into the total price.

BW
June 19, 2008 at 7:15 PMAnonymous: Anonymous said...
mmmh... andrea, u like to party ?. Can we all go to your unit to party during your open house ? :-)

desperado

Hi Desperado...May I know who are you? I don't even know you? Are you one of the spring owner? Which unit and floor you buy?
June 19, 2008 at 7:20 PMAnonymous: The total cost for one of the quotation I received from Verra is RM15K. The material is Melamine Door c/w aluminium edging. Worktop is "Luxor" solid surface with Blum clip motion door hinges and Blum Motion STD - Silent Close Drawer Runner. The price is inclusive of Fortile D5BH 3Z" Glass Hood & HL2B 2 burner tempered glass hob c/w safety device
June 19, 2008 at 7:25 PMAnonymous: What is MDF?
Laminated and Nyatoh ply, which one better?
Laminated and melamine both are the same material?

Hopefully kitchen specialist can advise my enquiry. Thanks in advance :-)
June 20, 2008 at 9:37 AMAnonymous: Hi BW,

No doubt you said that your solid acrylic is local made and only cost RM180 per ft run...May I know what brand is it and how many years of warranty?

I will said that most of the kitchen designers are the distributors for LG HiMacs and Samsung Staron. Even though these two brands cost RM280 per ft run but it does has 10 years warranty and is 100% solid arcylic too. Unlike some local brand...it only consists of 50% -70% arcylic
June 20, 2008 at 1:35 PMAnonymous: finally got my SPA stamped.. hi 3am, do call up yr lawyer & c if they've stamped your SPA or not. it's roll-out time :-)

thanks a bunch to u Andrea and BW for all the pointers.. certainly opened up my eyes on the "should" price for the kitchen.. :-P

btw, if i'm not mistaken, it was said that we'll get the OC by Nov 2008 but does anyone know when we can actually move in? or at least go in to view our units?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 20, 2008 at 3:44 PMAnonymous: I just received the invoice from IJM. I'm charged another 55%. We're grated 60 days of grace period from S&P date.

So, have you all signed your loan agreement? I haven't signed yet (loan agreement is not yet ready)
Need to call to lawfirm and push them to act faster.

~ Amy ~
June 20, 2008 at 5:30 PMAnonymous: Hi Ciplak,

I got my EPF withrawal within a week...The EPF department is very efficient now.

For those who takes up loan with Maybank, please don't take up their MRTA as is more expensive than the rest of the insurance companies. I bought my MRTA from Great Eastern which covers for Term Life, PA and Critical Illness. The most important thing is I will get a surrender value when I complete my loan repayment period. Fyi, those who buy MRTA from banks, please check on the interest charged. For those who buy MRTA from bank...I do advice you to pay them directly instead of include into the housing loan. The reason is the interest charged for MRTA is very high...around 9%
June 20, 2008 at 5:32 PMAnonymous: I have sign my loan agreement. I am waiting for the lawyer to give me a copy once the bank had sign and send for stamping. :)
June 20, 2008 at 6:11 PMAnonymous: Can i know how much is the MRTA cost? I agree EPF now very efficient..
June 20, 2008 at 6:25 PMAnonymous: The cost of MRTA is base on your age. The one I get from Maybank is RM9K plus and is only cover for RM100K. Wherease OCBC's MRTA is RM5K for RM200K. I didn't take from bank. I brought from insurance company and it's RM1.5K yearly. I opt for 25 years MRTA...after complete 25 years I may choose to withdraw and get the surrender value is it more than RM90K or I can continue serving the insurance until 70 years old.
June 20, 2008 at 6:55 PMAnonymous: Hi Andrea,
I took the loan & MRTA with maybank, however i did not see it is written 9% interest charged for MRTA in the offer letter. Just curious where u see the 9% if you're taken the loan from maybank?

-CKC-
June 20, 2008 at 9:22 PMAnonymous: Andrea,

The local solid surface has various brand names, SkyStone, etc.
Skystone has 8 years warranty.
When I was first looking for solid surface, I wanted the best, 100% acrylic... However after going thru so many many reno stuff, I don't really have the money to get the best so local made ones are sufficient for me. Believe me, after you are done with your whole condo budget, you would be finding ways to cut cost!

BW
June 20, 2008 at 11:58 PMAnonymous: hi Ciplak,
i collected my S&P and applied EPF withdraw, gtg to sign bank agreement next week. i think i free of late interest from IJM.

hi Amy,
i believe you paid the rest of 10% down payment too early and should expect IJM officer give you advice on it.if not mistaken, one day late interest charge ~RM53. 60 days X 53 = RM3180 equal to lost one new sofa. =.=" you better clarify it to IJM to waive it.

Hi CKC
Actually the % of your MTRA is same to your house loan if you added it into your housing loan. i same with Andrea which bought from GE to cover 200K. i just need to pay < Rm200 per month and can surrender get back $ anytime:).

i just went to Arredo and Kamay furniture in QB survey sofa price. Both shops told me starting 1 July, all furnitures will increase price up to 20% =.=". is that true?Which big items i should pay booking fee 1st to avoid rugi 20% extra?kicthen revonation? haiz...remain 10 days only.

~3am
June 21, 2008 at 9:56 AMAnonymous: Hi, 3am,

I believe all of us are granted grace period of 60 days to pay for the money. After due date, then just will be charged for interst if the person/bank hasn't pay/release money.

I still have another month to go before due.

I've done my S&P and EPF part. Just left loan agreement. Will sign it next week too :)

~ Amy ~
June 21, 2008 at 12:22 PMAnonymous: Opinion:

Go for the wellknown for Design and reno.

like :

Signature Kitchen
Floor Depot

and etc.. check more..
this one quality is confirm good.
And the level or finishing also good.

just my point of view.
June 21, 2008 at 3:39 PMAnonymous: Can anyone of you advise my enquiries? Thanks in advance.

What is MDF?
Laminated and Nyatoh ply, which one better?
Laminated and melamine both are the same material?

Hopefully kitchen specialist can advise my enquiry. Thanks in advance :-)
June 21, 2008 at 10:18 PMAnonymous: I heard BLR going up next mth. :-(

Anyone knows what does "Storage hot water heater point" mean ?

I plan to buy water heater from SEC. Should I do it ?. Does SPRING provide hot water to each unit ?

~Chin Eng~
June 22, 2008 at 1:04 PMAnonymous: Hi CHin Eng

Where u go the new that BLR will go up? die la ma
June 22, 2008 at 1:33 PMAnonymous: Dear Over-Enthusiatic Owners of the Spring,

Lets make a road trip down to IKEA when the time comes. They have a fair share of nice furniture and interior design concepts over there.
June 22, 2008 at 3:00 PMAnonymous: dear all, it is a wise idea to check IKEA out and copy some of their concepts. i would not advise u guys to buy their furniture as they won't last long. i personally experience this. i highly recommend LORENZO furniture. buy them during their sale.

vortices777@yahoo.com
June 22, 2008 at 3:58 PMAnonymous: Heard that BLR will go up from some friends working in a bank.

~Chin Eng~
June 22, 2008 at 4:51 PMAnonymous: deal all Spring owners, any updates on the fence issue? Today i went over and have a up close and personally look at the quality, it is really terrible. I am worried about the security and durability of such thin metal. Come on IJM, we spent over 300K and this is the quality? I really wish that we can all unite and make some changes on this matter.
June 22, 2008 at 5:45 PMAnonymous: as i have underdstood, 300++ ppl are queeing for hours to buy the 100 units leftover. lots of ppl are speculating that spring will repeat the success of bayswater. well check it out. there're lots of sellers now (since most so call investors bought more than 2 units hoping to goreng) but no sellers. call up some brokers to ask.
June 22, 2008 at 7:04 PMAnonymous: i think Spring's price will soar like crazy even without the intervention of speculators. With the 30% rise in construction materials and the current uncertainty hitting the local construction industry, new projects will be stalled and current projects may be delayed. There will be lack of ready built condos in the market and the more established ones will get all the attention. I reckon a RM270K Spring unit would fetch at least RM360K - RM380K after OC is obtained. Get ready for havoc in November.. :P~~~~~
June 22, 2008 at 7:11 PMAnonymous: I agree. My aunt just bought from sub-sale last week at RM330K for a ferry facing unit. I think its silly to buy at this price but guess there is not much choice for prime units. tink price will increase further after oc
June 22, 2008 at 9:02 PMAnonymous: What a crazy price here in Spring. lease hold !!!!!!!!
June 22, 2008 at 9:23 PMAnonymous: does anyone knows when ijm is releasing or has already released those unsold units?
June 22, 2008 at 11:29 PMAnonymous: i just check with IJM officer last week, all the remaining bumi units already increase 20K. type A in 9th floor now is 293K. will increase again after OC obtained.=.="if not mistaken, i think 6 months later bumi units will release.May i know where is Floor Depot?thanks.

~3am
June 23, 2008 at 12:18 AMAnonymous: hi Chin Eng,
do u have any idea how many % is the BLR adjustment? this is definately a stupid move cos it will cause economy meltdown with BLR gone over d roof.. cham cham.. now no choice but have to wait & see.. i hope they didnt implement it overnight like what they did for petrol price..

as for the water heater point, i asked the same thing in earlier blog entry.. its either hotel style with separate hot & cold water tap or just electric point.. not sure.. thats y i didnt buy any electrical appliances yet..btw, ru buying everything from SEC from now onwards? did u compare prices with LSS or other electrical appliances store?

if i'm not mistaken, we have to plan for the location of power sockets first right?

hi 3am,
Floor Depot is somewhere opposite Union Primary School.. its on the right side of the road..
as for the furnitures, i also heard the same thing.. i guess its caused by increase in transport cost.. even Bas Kilang in FTZ is demanding 30~40% increase in the transport price.. its the start of the much dreaded domino effect of petrol price increase..

hi vortices777@yahoo.com,
i bought my furnitures from Arredo main branch at Macalister Road..managed to get good price too :-)
didnt try Lorenzo yet though..are they having any sale promotion now?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 23, 2008 at 12:21 AMAnonymous: leasehold? i think thats the least of concern rite now given the sucky construction industry, rising prices and looming inflation threat. Spring is currently the best property bet in town given IJM's track record.
June 23, 2008 at 12:29 AMAnonymous: IJM the best? How many units u bought? Bulk buyers? Staff purchase? Trying to speculate?
June 23, 2008 at 2:01 AMAnonymous: oops moron, i am sorry..oasis is the best..sorry. They are having some bulk buying soon. Heard the villagers are buying 3 units each. why dun you go line up at 3am and bribe them with a cow or something..
June 23, 2008 at 2:05 AMAnonymous: "IJM the best? How many units u bought? Bulk buyers? Staff purchase? Trying to speculate?"

Fuyoo..until now also got sour grapes browsing our blog. Its amazing how losers spend their time...
June 23, 2008 at 3:04 AMAnonymous: Its amazing too how speculators react to the losers.

Hey angry man why so rude? Still left many units unsold?

HAHA..... Good Luck!

No need to promote IJM anymore. Everyone knows IJM is the best - how they boost penang property prices, selling the property cheap to "KAWANS", professional, beautiful fence and many many more...

Must inform Penang Government to give IJM awards.
June 23, 2008 at 4:02 AMAnonymous: I think the anonymous who call another anonymous a moron is the IJM staff. I thought they are professional but they act like a moron too. Don't simply call others moron.
June 23, 2008 at 9:18 AMAnonymous: Floor Depot is at 1st floor, E-Gate and the one at Jalan Burma is Flooring Box. If u but something from Arredo, better survey at diff. branch as I saw a bed which Macalister selling at RM 2395 and Q-Bay selling at RM 1899.
June 23, 2008 at 11:20 AMAnonymous: wow, im amazed by the zing of energy these naysayers have up til now.. reli must present them Royal Salute Blue Label.. hahahaha

*its a sarcastic remark in case they misinterpret it & reli want to drink the Royal Salute*

sorry for the wrong info on the Floor Depot :-P its true tat price range of Arredo is diff between QB & Main Branch :-) got my dining & sofa set cheaper at main branch.. the website at www.arredo.com.my doesnt work anyway..

btw, EPF office staff is very efficient nowadays. took me less than 30min to get thru the whole process.. kudos to them..

btw, does anyone know when we can view our actual unit? need to start serious planning from now onwards.

-ciplak @ C14-
June 23, 2008 at 3:10 PMDave: Hi Ciplak, regarding the water heater, is same like hotel style. Confirmed. cos i already pay a side visit to there.
June 23, 2008 at 4:49 PMAnonymous: Hi Dave,
thanks so much for the info.. how u managed to view ur unit? u sneaked in or "kautim" with the builders? i'm reli anxious to see my unit as well la..
if its separate tap, then we can save loads on electricity bills la.. not to mention the type of shower heads we can use :-D i can surf for shower heads now instead of heater then :-)

-ciplak @ C14-
June 23, 2008 at 5:30 PMAnonymous: Actually you use up more energy this way by heating up all the water in the storage tank when you will not be that much water.

It maybe classy but not cost effective.
June 23, 2008 at 6:48 PMAnonymous: Is the heater power switch and storage tank located inside each individual units or is it located centrally ?.

Who pays for the heater electrical bills ?. Building Maintenance ?

~Chin Eng~
June 23, 2008 at 7:20 PMAnonymous: ah ha ha! sore losers back in the forum again.. i bet this batch are those who missed out on the latest round of the sale of the remaining units.. Guarantee you when the bumi lots are released, definitely those who fail will make noise again. Woo Hoo!
June 23, 2008 at 9:07 PMAnonymous: dear ciplak,

LORENZO sale normally near merdeka...

vortices777
June 23, 2008 at 9:31 PMAnonymous: I collected my S&P and signed the loan agreement as well. Refer letter (Progress Billings)from IJM, due date to pay the 55% is 60 days from the S&P date. For those who still not signed the loan agreement, pls hurry up to allow any delayed interest at 10% p.a.

Would like to share regarding BLR. When inflation going higher n higher, gov will take action by increase BLR rate, this make ppls think to save $$$ rather then spend it. Then purchase power will reduce and will bring down the selling price. Understand gov will discuss this issue at July. So, wait n c what’s the outcome. By the way, US Prime rate also will impact also. Hopefully they will not increase higher then 8% from 6.75%.

For the property insurance, like what CKC n Andrea said, you may consider taking up GE insurance beside Banks MRTA which is no “return/value” at the end of loan period. I plan to do the same as well bcoz now the bank is not compulsory us to buy the MRTA from them.

Dave,
When u saying that the water heater same like hotel style, what tats means? Can you tell us more as my understanding is IJM will help us to build in the storage hot water heater point only.

For all first house owner, pls spend smartly for the renovation and furniture especially those apply for EPF. As the economy now is still not stable, suggest you all dun spend too much and keep the money for future use or other fee like deposit for your water and TNB, 3 months advance payment of maintenance fee, MPPP and etc.

Any1 have any idea how can we communicate with IJM more efficient for the fencing issue besides keep sending emails to IJM staff? Do not rec’d any good news from IJM yet as they always claim that after the plantation then its will look better.

thamvb@hotmail.com
June 23, 2008 at 10:48 PMAnonymous: dear all,
for those who wants to know about storage water heater, here are some info. storage heater tanks are normally 'hidden' above the plaster ceiling. u shud have the copper piping concealed behind the wall tiles. so wat u see is just the shower with a mixer handle (hotel style). common brands are JOTUN/ALPHA/CENTON. just hope ijm provides the concealed copper pipes. unlike instant water heater, storage heater tanks take longer time to heat up as they are bigger. that's why they consume higher electricity. do ensure there is a proper manhole on the plaster ceiling for easy maintenance of the tank.

vortices777
June 23, 2008 at 10:57 PMAnonymous: dear thamvb@hotmail.com,

did they backdate the spa without your consent? they backdated mine. actual signing date was 24may. but when collected the spa is backdated to 28apr!! now ijm asking for the 55% payment with deadline 60 days from spa date(28apr). i am just hoping for my loan agreement to get processed in time. the rest of you pls be aware.

type a owner
June 24, 2008 at 10:31 AMAnonymous: Hi Thamvb,
thanks for d update. its reli an eye opener entry for me :-)
looks like alot of unknown costs involved in owning a house :-(
my SPA is dated early June. does that mean that IJM will inform me via bank to release the loan within 60days or after 60days?
my loan term mentioned that they will start the installment plan 30days after first release. does that mean that i have 90days in total from SPA date then? please help..

Hi vortices777 and Dave,
i've seen the same type of heater tank when i went hunting for electrical appliances. the salesman does not recommend such tank as well.. so what should we do? install individual water heater or use the one provided by IJM?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 24, 2008 at 12:24 PMAnonymous: to the anonymous who asked regarding the melamine material, pls refer to the website below..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine_resin

wikipedia is a good reference place for all kinds of info :-)

-ciplak @ C14-
June 24, 2008 at 2:13 PMDave: I'm like the storage heater design, but wondering did it need to always ON to keep the water warm??
June 24, 2008 at 2:58 PMAnonymous: Yes Dave, you need to keep it ON all the time to keep the water in the tank warm. That's y it is NOT energy efficient and is very very very expensive on your pockets in the long run. The storage water heater is only 10% efficient in using electricity. Imagine warming up the entire 20 gallon tank but only using up abit of the hot water and reheating again after afew hours.

I read somewhere that it is very cheap to install. Maybe that's y IJM is able to install it for us.

Sam.
June 24, 2008 at 3:16 PMAnonymous: I surf the net and the "storage water heater" design is already outdated because it is not efficient in using up energy. It would be very costly to use.

Sigh... wonder why did IJM install this for us when it is already outdated ?. They should have installed something else instead.

~Chin Eng~
June 24, 2008 at 3:56 PMAnonymous: What would happen if your Storage water heater is faulty !!!..

http://home.howstuffworks.com/water-heater.htm

Enjoy the video clip.

~Chin Eng~
June 24, 2008 at 9:11 PMAnonymous: ydfType A owner

Are you sure ur spa back dated to 28Apr as soft launch on 03May only? When you pay the booking fee(20k)? If you are the bulk buyer then it’s might be difference. Better u call up ur bank loan officer and lawyer to get it done by this week.

Ciplak
IJM will send you a register mail to notify you for the due date of 55% payment. U need to ensure your loan agreement all in order for bank to release the $$$ before the due date. You need to check with ur loan officer when bank will release the $$$, might be once ur loan agreement in order or on the due date. For the installment plan, diff bank or package will be diff. Some of them are start after first release n some are upon full release, u need to check it wif ur bank loan officer. Anyway, u also can request to start your installment before the bank release the $$$, then u will pay down your principal 1st.

thamvb@hotmail.com
June 24, 2008 at 11:04 PMAnonymous: unit TYPE C5 (above level 10) for RM500K??

Dude, u wanna speculate also do yur homework la.. u are asking for 534 per square ft?? block A which is more popular is asking for 350K only ler..
June 24, 2008 at 11:23 PMAnonymous: 500k go buy the light better la..freehold.
June 24, 2008 at 11:25 PMAnonymous: if u are a bulk buyer, your SPA period is extended to 3 months until 24th July..this is same for ALL bulk buyers coz your SPA will be backdated to 24 April..the day u paid yur 10%
June 25, 2008 at 11:08 AMDave: Here is some Pros about storage heater compare to instant heater:
1. pressure is better or not depends on your current pressure in the first place. so if your cold water pressure is good, water storage heater will equal that same pressure as the same cold water pipe is use, just mixed with hot water from the tank.

for instant heater, the difference is pressure may be ok but water flow rate is very low. only a small amount of water is flow thru the instant heater at a time so that it can be quickly heated up, hence you get a slow rate of flow. pressure for instant water is fairly constant too so if your current pressure is not good enough, it may not even work

2. yes you can but each shower must be connected to the storage tank using copper pipes

3. yes you need copper pipings for the extra hot water. remember to get hot water from storage tanks, you need two pipes. one hot from the tank, and one cold from your supply. then you need a mixer tap to mix the cold and hot water

4. depends on the size. for 20 or is it 30 litre tank, its around 300 or 400 ringgit.
June 25, 2008 at 12:41 PMAnonymous: hi all,
i've asked my colleague (staying at Bayswater) regarding this heater tank issue. he told me that it's not compulsory to use the tank (approx rm500). IJM installed the pipings for us but its still up to us whether to use the tank system or not. he made big mistake by installing heater tanks cos he told me that it's not energy efficient & there's possibility of us doing re-piping provided we get consent from IJM. but thats for Baywater unit; so i guess its the same as ours. hope it helps..

Thanks Thamvb for the input. will call my loan officer later today..

btw, thanks to Andrea for the Verra Kitchen input. went there on Monday & i reli like the design. the layout of the show kitchen is exactly like C-type kitchen (8ft x 9ft).. so i now know how my kitchen will look like.. hehe

oh.. the payment is as follow:
10% d/payment
40% production
40% delivery
10% upon buy-off

anyone can advise what we need to do first when we move into a new house? someone posted the following:

Wiring (extra power point/ switch) > Plaster ceiling (if any) > Kitchen > Other ID > Drill > lights/ fans/ air-con > painting.

any comments?

-ciplak @ C14-
June 25, 2008 at 1:31 PMAnonymous: Additional to all Spring buyer and potential buyers

1. The plot of empty land besides Nautilus Bay and Spring is to be a new food court project for the promenade. Nautilus Bay is ready for occupation in fact a few units is under renovation and one unit has moved-in.

2. The dump site has been ear-marked to be a park.

3. Summer place is expected to be from RM250K onwards shaped like u-shape...but that was before the petrol price increase. Summer Place is located at the mouth of the infamous Sg Pinang, for the record IJM is part of the team to try to clean the river...

4. There is a chinese temple new spring. But heard that there will be a mosque near Sri Pinang (low cost units and near Summer place).
A Church is to be built beside Nautilus bay at the front of the promenade. The building plan has been approved by the council. Construction soon..

5. The four tall structure are designed by well known Japanese artist and is supposed to be very spectacular except that the previous state government was trying to alter the design to include a mosque to be projected by the light at the top of the four structure instead of the original design. The Japanese left without completing the final piece of the design. What a waste!!!

5. A lot of IJM staffs has been blogging is giving misleading inform here including giving positive and negative statements.

6. Bank Negara is expected to call for a review of the overnight interest rate very soon. Buyers pls get your bank to lock-in the rate offered.

7. OC for Spring is expected only before CHY 2009 and not Nov as stated here.

8. No sore-loser, stupid speculators, missed out buyers, IJM mgmt & staff benefited from this blog. Buyer take all comments at their own risk.

Good luck all!!!
June 25, 2008 at 1:33 PMAnonymous: By the way, Church is expected to partially block Spring units view facing ferry from level six and below.
June 25, 2008 at 1:47 PMAnonymous: The land beside Spring is for a school and the land in front of Spring is for the food court.
June 25, 2008 at 2:47 PMAnonymous: THE SPRING NO GOODLAH !
June 25, 2008 at 3:32 PMAnonymous: BLR will be up around 0.5 - 2%
June 25, 2008 at 3:39 PMAnonymous: ya rite, the spring no good so can advise which project good in current market now?
June 25, 2008 at 6:27 PMAnonymous: Ya, The Spring is good...but very unfortunate for the desperate buyers...atRM350K sub sale. Get get better condo with such price with a bit of sacrifice if out of town.

Its' a bit crazy..but if I have managed to get a unit to invest, I will say all the good things of Spring, etc, etc so as to convince those desperate buyers to part with their hard earned money. It is human nature-lah...he.he.he..

But I'm here not to discourage you to buy but buy at your own peril.

Regards
Ah Jin
June 25, 2008 at 7:15 PMAnonymous: Aiyooooo go buy Oasis condominium better la.......hahaha
June 25, 2008 at 7:18 PMAnonymous: You can get Type A at 320k..... check Star newspaper, no need to pay for 350k !!
June 25, 2008 at 7:33 PMAnonymous: with the S&P for bulk buyer at 24Apr, their 90days ends on 23Jul.
Guess very soon they will get desperate and start lowering their subsale price. Soon this forum will be flooded with good offers :) Guess some of the more desperate ones might even sell it at below buying price!!! Speculative investments back firing hee hee... The guy with 17 units? God bless him... :p
June 25, 2008 at 7:46 PMAnonymous: the star advertised? RM320K for Type A level 1 or Type A Level 22? Be more specific..you are looking at a potential difference of RM50K
June 25, 2008 at 7:51 PMAnonymous: would bulk buyers be dumb enuf to gamble 10% deposit hoping to attract buyers in 3 months? It is obvious they have enuf financial strength to hold till OC la since this is when the appreciation comes in. After all, its only 5 months away. U tink this is bulk buyer for "sell and build" projects meh?
June 25, 2008 at 8:03 PMAnonymous: Sell below buying price? Ya you can try to write in Oasis blog, I am sure there are many many buyers willing to sell you below their buying price
June 25, 2008 at 8:19 PMAnonymous: Floor 1-20 difference per floor is only 1k per floor, so if 20 floors is only 20k if you didnt know the price jump is 1k per floor
June 25, 2008 at 9:57 PMAnonymous: brudder, thats official IJM pricing la. Its an imperfect market out there. RM50K is just a probable range for such a hot property like the Spring :)

If level one is selling at RM320K, u tink level 2 must definitely be sold at RM321K meh..ha ha!
June 25, 2008 at 10:54 PMAnonymous: I did notice something here. Each time when there is a -ve comment about the spring, the person will kena tembak like hell even though the comment making valuable info. I just wonder who they are, spend all the time here to tembak each and every of the -ve points. Are they the spring owner or the IJM "people"? I don't think the future buyer will tembak the -ve comment cos the -ve comments are useful as they are on property hunt.
June 26, 2008 at 12:04 AMAnonymous: dun worry, if -ve comments makes sense, nobody will bother to tembak. but if there are ppl harping on same obvious issues, then they deserve the same obvious answers. This will teach ppl to read past comments rather than comment aimlessly. Cheers bro!
June 26, 2008 at 7:22 AMAnonymous: Hi all,

I already got my EPF money into my account. It is processed within 1 week :) Kudos to KWSP!

FYI: For those who haven't got your EPF money, you can check your withdrawal status from i-Account.

~ Amy ~
June 26, 2008 at 8:21 AMAnonymous: seok888, what floor is yur type A? ferry facing?
June 26, 2008 at 8:58 AMAnonymous: to 'the guy who expects bulk buyer to sell below purchase price',

pls wake up to the real world. do u know there are ppl out there who are not afraid of raising blr, material price etc...they are experienced speculators who can afford to wait and hold. this is wat they do for a living. the longer u wait the higher the price will get and u will end up paying more in purchase price and interest rates in future. my advice is ...buy it as soon as posible if u like the unit.

3 units bulk buyer.
June 26, 2008 at 11:03 AMAnonymous: bro & sis...

just incase you are not aware. The bulk buyer that bought 17 units is not a person. It is a company. The company is Boon Siew.

So.. if you think they (Boon Siew) don't have enough money and will sell those units at a low price, THINK AGAIN dude. :-)
June 26, 2008 at 11:24 AMAnonymous: Thats why... Just look at how the "3 units bulk buyers" comment. They are rich people. Probably not working.

The problem is IJM. Why? They sold most of the units to the rich and not fairly open for sale to everyone at the same time. For average income people suffer when the rich speculate the property prices. So they speculator will end up making 50K of your hard earn money easily. Some more they can leave a lansi comment here.

Blame IJM... Invite speculator, not open for sale fairly to everyone. Your hard earn money just gone like that if you buy from the speculator and not at developer price.
June 26, 2008 at 11:43 AMAnonymous: OC is expected to be obtained in Nov? So we can expect to see ppl moving in say... before X'mas?
Lets see how it goes, difficult times in Malaysia don't u all agree? Everything rises, except our pay...
One camp says building material rises, house price will shoot up as well. Another camp says life is already tough, money no enough. Demand will drop. I say nobody really know, let us all sit back, wait for a while and see how it unfolds. No need to bombard another camp. Afterall we're all here to share personal opinion, not expert advice :) If we're some hot shot property expert, we won't be here reading blogs trying to share and learn from everybody's experience. Bummer, we won't even be talking about sub-million dollar properties eh? haha...
Sorry guys, gone ranting longer than expected. I hope it sounded neutral enough to avoid frayed nerves. I'm also here to share and learn... cheers:)
June 26, 2008 at 12:01 PMAnonymous: OC in November 2008?. Hope ijm can get the OC earlier. Getting very impatience.

YIPPPEEE...just could not wait to get in and see my prized possession.

Everyday day dreaming about THE SPRING. Will go to the construction site at least 3 times a week.

Thinking of sneeking in but afraid that I would get hit by a brick on my head.

sam
June 26, 2008 at 12:35 PMAnonymous: hi Myx,
you're absolutely right!!..did any of u notice that this blog has more than 800 entries now? and i'm darn glad tat at least The Spring's blog entries are about renovation & etc instead of like The Oasis blog which is the exact opposite..

hi Amy,
i'm gonna check it out now..perhaps i will write to the star newspaper to give them (EPF) their due recognition :-)

-ciplak @ C14-
June 26, 2008 at 12:59 PMAnonymous: hi Sam,
my fault..OC not in Nov 2008.. i was asking around for the real date but someone posted earlier saying that it's next year somewhere during CNY...

i think addicted to The Spring d.. go there almost daily on my way from FTZ to gym..hehehe.. jz soaking in the view of the promenade and the spring.. wondering how the view will look like from my balcony.. hehehehe..

btw, Andrea & all usual bloggers,
have anyone of u browsed around for LIGHTING? i'm thinking of going for Lighting Shop hopping this Sat & Sun.. will post some entries when i have new info :-)

-ciplak @ C14-
June 26, 2008 at 2:45 PMAnonymous: Anyone want to sell their unit for RM180K ? I am interested. I am ok with level two. Please leave your contact here.

Do remember, interest rate will be increasing soon. Better let go of your unit before it is too late.
June 26, 2008 at 3:17 PMAnonymous: Hi Ciplak,

Have you got all your kitchen cabinets quotation from various companies? have you make up your decision on what types of materials you want for your kitchen cabinets, how many cabinets you need and the what brand of table top you want?

Are you doing plaster ceiling for your house? If yes, have you start survey for plaster ceiling price?
June 26, 2008 at 3:52 PMAnonymous: A little tools to play around with:

IKEA planner - http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/rooms_ideas/splashplanners.html

~ Amy ~
June 26, 2008 at 4:05 PMAnonymous: Amy,

Thanks a million. It's great. !

~Chin Eng~
June 26, 2008 at 4:29 PMAnonymous: 180k shud be able to get u the carpark lots...
June 26, 2008 at 4:45 PMAnonymous: hi Andrea,
i went to Verra & saw the white overall layout of the kitchen model at the back & it was love at first sight :-) i havent booked yet tho..but basically my heart is with Verra la :-D i asked them to quote for me similar spec as yours..thanks to u..i even copied ur spec into my hp & i referred to it when i talked to the salesperson..hehe..thanks so much for sharing.. as for table top, i asked them to quote for local & Samsung acrylic; also i skipped oven & opt for hood & stove only..

as for plaster ceiling, i havent got any quotation yet..but its confirmed that Devon is RM2.8/sq ft.. and i plan to go to the property fair at PISA this weekend. cos there're booths for interior stuff as well. wana bring d layout & plenty of namecards to get quotations :-) so any of u going there then?

its gonna b a bz weekend cos i also plan to go hunting for lights along Petani Road.. a few lighting stores there..

i only went to 2 stores (LSS & SEC) for electrical appliances. any other stores offering better deals? cos i plan to buy everything from one store.. isit a wise or unwise decision?

-ciplak @ C14-

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