The Spring

The Spring condominium located along the Jelutong Expressway that gives a panoramic view of the Penang Bridge. The concept of the project is modern contemporary and emphasizing on its Tropical Garden features.

The Spring Condominium comprises 396 condominium units in total. The built up area ranging from 925 to 1,281 sq.ft.

Property Project : The Spring Condominium
Location : Georgetown, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
Total Units : 396
Built-up Area : approx. 925 - 1,281 sq.ft.
Developer : IJM Properties Sdn Bhd

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May 10, 2008 at 10:19 PMAnonymous: Hi all,
Yup,its true that there will be future development at Bandar Sri Pinang area.

After The Spring, next project will be 500plus units apartment called Summer Place. Pls refer to the url & caption as attached.

http://apartment-penang.blogspot.com/2007/10/waterfront-city-project.html

“We will also be launching the Nautilus Bay landed residential scheme and The Spring condominiums for the Bandar Sri Pinang project next month. The Nautilus Bay, comprising 78 three-storey terraced houses, has been completed and will be launched for sale soon.”
“We plan to launch next year the Summer Place, the final residential phase of Bandar Sri Pinang comprising 531 units of condominiums,” he said, adding that the RM680mil Metro-East mixed developments, also along the Jelutong Expressway, was about 60% completed.

-ciplak @ C14-
May 10, 2008 at 10:39 PMAnonymous: Price for lease hold, near rubbish mountain, near low cost house, no swimming pool & etc should be diff too..
May 10, 2008 at 11:55 PMAnonymous: so whats the point of asking around when u know that transfer cannot be done before OC is obtained?
May 11, 2008 at 12:16 AManonymous: after all that has been commented, the pros and cons, i'm still proud to be an owner of this property and i'm still excited and really looking forward to live in the Spring. the finishing of the wall, ceiling and even the tiles are prefect. and to all you proud owners do not need to do much on the structure of the building as you'll be satisfied! wonder how i know? i sneaked in past few days just to have a feel of the unit that i bought...and the view is great and its breezy!
May 11, 2008 at 1:04 AMAnonymous: Why don't you sell at 400K? Since there are no market price at all... Nowaday the owner itself become the valuer.

Great view and breezy? If you are the 'REAL' owner, after you move in to The Spring for six months then come back to this blog and leave your +ve comments... stop misleading others!
May 11, 2008 at 1:36 AMAnonymous: Do you know why you can see so many seller here? Either they feel the spring is so bad and regret buying it or they are the speculators that trying to make money, maybe 30K or 40K from the original price.

No other reason for them to sell cos they just bought weeks ago.
May 11, 2008 at 6:56 AMAnonymous: "Summer Place" will have 3 blocks. Block A, B & C.

Need to call up IJM to see when they will start the project.
May 11, 2008 at 12:15 PMAnonymous: Amazing! Spring sold out during the soft launch.

Ppls now are blind & $$ stick on forehead. They just think of how to make money & forgot about health concern. May be they thought this project may have the same return like Bayswater. Comeonlah Spring a leasehold project with dumpsite, sewerage treatment & a river (which flow a drain water) surrounding the house. Rubbish burning everyday (either by human or nature) with the bad smoke and the smell from the sewerage treatment area has really affected our health.

I do understand that now the bulk buyer are look for sub-sale. Why we must be a victim! Let them suffer. They are lots of project coming out soon. Developer has to push the launch of new project within this year before the recession as contract has signed may be 1 or 2 year back.
May 11, 2008 at 1:05 PMAnonymous: recession? why not sell your house now and go live in hotel and later u buy back 2 house or even 3 house?
May 11, 2008 at 1:38 PMAnonymous: Its amazing how sore losers keep increasing every week in this blog..or are they the same jokers who fail to get a unit before and after the launch so becoming jealous when sub-sale activities begins and prices go out of their pathetic reach... its a willing buyer willing seller out there.. Go use yur time more productively instead of commenting senselessly...
May 11, 2008 at 2:58 PMAnonymous: Maybank is giving 2 loan packages for the Spring; BLR-2.1% (ZMC) and BLR-2.3% (NZMC). NZMC is those who needs to pay own legal fees. Of all the bank, Maybank is the only bank that gives the best rate for housing loan.
May 11, 2008 at 4:22 PMAnonymous: Not all units of The SPRING is bad. All the negative comments only affect units facing the bridge.

For units facing the ferry, bad smell from rubbish, black river, seawege or smoke are not affected at all. Units facing the ferry can enjoy the breath taking view of sun rise and of ships docking at the Penang port without any health related concern or worry.

I am glad I am smart enough to purchase a unit facing the ferry. Just could not wait for the OC to be obtained.

~Chin Eng~
May 11, 2008 at 7:03 PMAnonymous: "sure you are looking for G type facing Pg brige. I've unit to release. Drop the mail contact."

What floor is that?
May 12, 2008 at 12:59 AMAnonymous: I got a type G facing bridge too. I am not sure how much the price hike can be, because it doesnt matter as I plan to stay there instead of investment. For those who gives -ve comment, I think this is a open blog and a fair point of view is perfectly fine. Just dont use offensive words and treat the buyers as "stupids" & "someone who doesnt care about their own health". I went there again today, to look at my unit from far, yeah, a big darn drain, dump site etc. honestly, i dint smell anything awful. Worst come to worst, i install air-conditioning lah. I can have thousand ways to stay healthier, so i can compromise this.
May 12, 2008 at 10:04 AMAnonymous: Of course you won't smell anything that time, but you will smell something when there is rubbish burning. I did stay in Mutiara Heights last year, and always saw the rubbish burning near by there and can smell the smoke, this cause i always sick. Due to reason, i quickly move to other place. I not sure now there will still have any rubbish burning activity or not since i already move out for about half month
May 12, 2008 at 10:25 AMAnonymous: I am observing The Spring since it was first published in a property fair, probably 2 years ago.
I didn't not have intension to get any unit during the soft launch, coz I already invested in other projects.
I am visiting this blog sorely just to understand more on the property trend in Penang. I believe there are many of the anonymous also same like me.
With the abnormal transaction of The Spring, it will definitely benefit to other projects as well as the property price more or less will be slightly raised. A lot of people failing to get one, looking forward others available projects. And IJM future project will set a new record selling price too. As I have more than 1 property in Penang, I will definitely happy with this and benefit from it.
But in this case, I feel sad, as this is wrong and unhealthy transaction, and the chain reaction will be going on spreading. Our son and grand son will be buying very expensive property in future.
The Spring is not a bad buy anyway, congratulate for those who able to get 1, but just don't be the victims of the speculation. You will have to cut your other budget to get this unit now. Use your money wisely for better living quality.
May 12, 2008 at 10:29 AMAnonymous: Sorry, there is some mistake in above statement. I already move out from Mutiara Heights fr about half year and not half month....So hope fully no more rubbish burning near by The Spring, wish you all good luck. Even i don't think The Spring is a valueable apartment/condo, but i do wish to those actual buyers (and not speculators/bulk buyers) will happy with their new home in The Spring
May 12, 2008 at 11:33 AMAnonymous: Only 200 meter from power plant!
May 12, 2008 at 4:38 PMAnonymous: Sigh.... What can I do? SPRING is the only presentable and affordable apartment in town area.

I have got no choice as I need somewhere to stay.
May 12, 2008 at 8:59 PMAnonymous: i have a unit wit me, but i found one more thats its more suitable for me d... im trying to sell out this unit c... anyone intrested... MElBans here.... Coz i still cant accept wit no facilities condo... oo...
May 13, 2008 at 8:32 AMAnonymous: haiya....i check with IJM, they will release the bumi lot at september, and the price will +RM20K, better keep the unit & you will earn a lot of money....hehe
May 13, 2008 at 9:27 AMAnonymous: may i know where is Summer Place condo located which IJM will launch soon... Nearby The Spring???
May 13, 2008 at 9:59 AMAnonymous: 17th floor, rubbish dump area view, selling for 450k. interested buyer only.
May 13, 2008 at 10:06 AMAnonymous: Summer Place will be build on the dump site area end of this year.

Notice the ships reclaiming the land in that area ?
May 13, 2008 at 1:32 PMAnonymous: im Melbans again... i want to sell my unit c about 250k.. anyone interested pls email me on melbans_ooi@hotmial.com..... no swimming pool lol... dissapointed nia.. how come condo no facilities eh...
May 13, 2008 at 5:02 PMAnonymous: Frankly, I don't think subsale of The Spring is going to be good with Summer Place launching soon.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/5/13/business/21209888&sec=business

For those who don't know where is Summer place,

Google Map
May 13, 2008 at 6:44 PMAnonymous: hmm, thats possible but i think summer can also potentially raise spring's value as it is priced about rm 30k more than spring averagely, despite its nearer to river mouth of sg pinang and nearer to low cost housing. So subsale of spring must definitely be at par with summer's price. also, if its launched in Sept 08, at Spring's development rate, u can only expect it in 2010 earliest.
May 13, 2008 at 10:51 PMAnonymous: Does anyone know when our S&P agreement will be ready ?. So far no one from IJM have called.
May 13, 2008 at 11:02 PMAnonymous: Summer Place Condo should further boost SPRING's price. YIIPPEE....

Hear from IJM that the minimum price would be 290K.
May 14, 2008 at 12:00 AMAnonymous: Call IJM up to sign your S&P. Its ready
May 14, 2008 at 1:21 AMAnonymous: this is crazy! i cant imagine paying more to stay near our beautiful sungai pinang and goh-tiao-lor low cost area! cant they build the summer elsewhere?
May 14, 2008 at 1:22 AMAnonymous: to those who still think its wrong to buy The Spring.. EAT YOUR WORDS..!!
i bet you guys/girls will aim for Summer Place now cos u can't get The Spring in the first place..the best thing about The Spring is we only have 396 units instead of 500+ units for Summer Place..lower occupancy rate..

well, to all owners of The Spring..S&P is ready and it is valid only until end of this month..so get yr loans ready first..then contact your IJM personnel to arrange for S&P signing session..

i jz had my loan documents signed..will sign the S&P in due course..

i don't know about u but i'm very excited about getting a place of my own.. my first hard-earned-money home sweet home..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 14, 2008 at 7:24 AMAnonymous: Congratulation, ciplak. By the way, mind to share what's the offer you get from bank(s)?

Anybody already got offer from bank(s)? Mind to share the package that they offer you?

I haven't received any offer yet. Still waiting.
May 14, 2008 at 8:52 AMAnonymous: Got from Maybank Dato Kramat for BLR - 2.3%

Their number is 04-2262627, 04-2266977, 04-2262936

Cheers, happy calling...
May 14, 2008 at 9:45 AMAnonymous: RM300k pay for apartment/condo without facilites, no way. It is too expensive, it is better for me to buy an apartment with less than RM200k with facilities including swimming pool (since i like swimming), gym, sauna etc. Maybe the loaction is not stratergic as The Spring, and 100sqf-200sql smaller than The Spring, but is enough for small family like me and the place is not complicated. Somemore i can use my money for other purpose wisely especially when have children in future, still got a lot money needs to spend. Maybe i am not as rich as those The Spring's buyers who are very rich until don't know where to spend their money
May 14, 2008 at 10:41 AMAnonymous: hi Anonymous on the top..its a free world to voice yr predicaments..but this blog is hardly the place to do so..we're not "rich" ppl so to speak..i bet some of us (this includes me :-))had to adjust our spending pattern just to afford The Spring..

anyway, say what you want but i stil think The Spring is better than The Oasis which has major unresolved issues up till now..luckily i didnt sign up during CNY this year :-P

i signed up with Public Bank. Zero Entry (BLR-2%). I added MRTA (TPD, Death) and 36 Critical Illness into my home plan coverage as well.. Didnt sign up with Maybank cos I'm wary about its offer..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 14, 2008 at 1:28 PMAnonymous: Hi Ciplak, what is concern on Maybank offer? I thought Maybank offer (BLR-2.1% and -2.3%) is consider good enough if compare to Public Banks
May 14, 2008 at 10:47 PMAnonymous: Greenlane Maybank Manager is offering BLR-2.5% (NZMC) and BLR-2.2% (ZMC)which I think a better deal compare to other bank. These offer is valid till end of this week. For those who still haven't apply your bank loan, you may take this into consideration
May 15, 2008 at 1:26 AMAnonymous: no reasons in particular but dont u think its kinda strange that every Maybank branch will have their own rate?

anyway,do ask if they have additional fees such as maintenance, processing, additional insurance fees, annual fees, stamp duty charges and so on.. ZMC doesnt guarantee anything unless its printed out clearly in the loan offer letter..

to be on the safe side,always get MRTA + 36 CI.. i found out that banks can still claim money from your beneficiary (for normal individual PA & CI) if something happens to u before u finish paying your loan (if u didnt take up MRTA)

well, for good or bad, i've signed up with Public Bank and will sign S&P by next week. remember to set up your appointment with ur respective IJM contact person prior to S&P signing...oh,remember to ask IJM personnel which law firm you're assigned to..it seems that the lawyers are pre-selected for us, so, remember to ask the law firm assigned to your unit and inform your bank loan officer for faster processing..

hope it helps..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 15, 2008 at 10:56 AMAnonymous: Even AmBank and Public Bank gave different rates from different branch la... Anyway, different people have different opinion and liking. :-)

Ciplak, any idea when we can move in SPRING ?. For renovation, do we need to get IJM's approval first?

Just could not wait to get OC.

~Chin Eng~
May 15, 2008 at 2:15 PMAnonymous: serious ah? aiyah, i didnt know bout tat..then gone case d :-P nvm la..tie in 5yrs..after 5yrs only think bout it again..luckily 0.1 to 0.2% diff only..whew..

well, i'm not entirely sure but i think for renovation, we have to abide by IJM's guideline.. cos my fren who bought Bayswater told me tat she can't modify to their liking as well..

i kept driving to The Spring day in day out jz to keep note of the progress..it can be addictive..heheheeh.. oh,i hope they will furnish the gate/wall instead of leaving it like a plain Jane with barbs.. :-P

i think we can only move in after OC approval..then another headache with $$ :-) must start saving from now onwards.. ;-(

-ciplak @ C14-
May 15, 2008 at 8:01 PMAnonymous: Actually Spring is a nice and romantic place for people to renew their vows and for courting couples. This is because it has a promenade like Gurney.

U know, two couples holding hands sitting / walking and enjoying the sunset and moonlight. Whispering to each other. The fresh sea breeze blowing softly on their faces as they smile while enjoying each other's company.

How romantic !

Cheers
Bi Lian
May 15, 2008 at 9:40 PMAnonymous: Dear Frens,

Have any of you sign the S&P yet?.

Just receive a registered letter from IJM stating that S&P needs to be sign 7 days from the date of the letter if not they will force sell your unit. The letter is dated 12/05/08 but I only receive the letter today 15/05/08. Moreover, my loan have not been approved yet.

What shall I do ?
May 15, 2008 at 10:56 PMAnonymous: hi Bi Lian,
thats a very gud thought indeed :-)

as for the S&P issue for Anonymous on the top, its better to call up yr respective IJM contact person (Alex, Jacky or whoever) and inform them about yr situation. if i'm not mistaken, the due date of S&P is end of this month to allow us to secure bank loans..

hope it helps..

btw, i'm glad i bought The Spring compared to The Oasis :-) in fact, i wanted to sign up during CNY with The Oasis project cos they offered rebate as well..luckily i didnt do that :-P

-ciplak @ C14-
May 15, 2008 at 11:55 PMAnonymous: dun worry, just inform them that you are still waiting for a bank loan and ask them to give u till end of next week lo.. i just did that this morning. No issue!
May 16, 2008 at 1:01 AMAnonymous: just heard from a civil engineer friend that the dumpsite near spring ia actually near maximum fill, i.e. it wont be long before they can't pile up further hence it will be converted into a park or recreational area. if this is true, its certainly brings additional value to the spring!
May 16, 2008 at 1:07 AMAnonymous: dear Spring owners, i have opted for a non-IJM panel lawyer for my loan as my dedicated SPA lawyer cannot give competitive rates. Has any of you opted for non-panel lawyers for yur loans?
May 16, 2008 at 2:02 AMAnonymous: It will be an urban park. u can check at the light waterfront master plan
May 16, 2008 at 8:53 AMAnonymous: I thought the bank will provide their own lawyers for us for the loan agreement ?

Chin Eng
May 16, 2008 at 9:38 AMAnonymous: yes, thats what they intend to do but as purchasers, its better if we have a different lawyer acting for us as the panel lawyer is already acting on behalf of IJM. If we use back the panel lawyer, they will only have IJM's interests in mind..not ours. furthermore, their rate sucks!
May 16, 2008 at 11:13 AMAnonymous: How much are the lawyers charging for the Bank Loan Agreement fees ?

ah soon
May 16, 2008 at 11:32 AMAnonymous: yes, it will be ROMANTIC until the smell of rubbish greets you both! haha...and then u wake up and realise that you are surrounded by poluted air. nice work.
May 16, 2008 at 1:24 PMAnonymous: there are 2 side of agreement in which we need lawyer's intervention..
one from IJM for S&P and another is from bank

correct me if i'm wrong but i thought IJM will cover lawyer fees from their side and there won't be any lawyer fees if we took up Zero Entry loan application from banks..

any other opinion? cos i didnt forsee this coming (if we need to pay la :-P)

-ciplak @ C14-
May 16, 2008 at 2:08 PMAnonymous: Yes agreed, there are two agreements.

SPA agreement will be paid by IJM but according to them we still need to pay around RM170 for don't know what disbursement fees.(Hope someone can shade some light here)

For the bank, if you take the Zero entry loan, you should not be paying anything.

regards,
Chin Eng
May 16, 2008 at 2:30 PMAnonymous: yes you are right but for those not taking zero cost, you may wanna get a cheaper lawyer to do you loan agreement rather than the SPA lawyer. You have a choice really.
May 16, 2008 at 4:22 PMAnonymous: the legal fee for S&P agreement will be paid by IJM. However, we still need to pay RM190 for disbursement fees.

For those who are getting NZMC loan from bank, you may opt for any legal firm that can give better rate. Do a survey before you take up the legal firm. You may get consultation from the home loan sales officer. He/She will probably be able to recommend you.
May 16, 2008 at 4:25 PMAnonymous: Hi, Ciplak...

There is a huge different compare to those who takes up NZMC loan from Maybank as they entitle BLR-2.5%. Which means 0.5% save compare to you. Although they need to pay their legal fees themselves, however it still save a lot compare those who are taking BLR-2% (ZMC)
May 16, 2008 at 4:42 PMAnonymous: Maybank very slow la.... I gave them my documents on the 12/05/2008. Until today, still no news of approval. I called them up yesterday. They inform me that they are still processing my loan. Ask them when I can know, they say you have to wait lor....

Sigh.... Really do not know what to do now.
May 16, 2008 at 5:30 PMAnonymous: Oops... gave them on the 05/05/2008 not 12/05/2008. Two weeks already...!!!
May 16, 2008 at 11:23 PMAnonymous: Yes, I agree. There is a huge different compare to those who takes up NZMC loan from Maybank as they entitle BLR-2.5%. Maybank offer this rate exclusively for "The Spring".
May 17, 2008 at 12:34 AMAnonymous: for those signed up for maybank BLR-2.5%, i heard there is a really lousy clause in the contract whereby if u fail to pay one instalment, the rate will automaitcally revert to BLR + 1.0%! Is that true?!

Those who sign up might wanna verify this? If not your loan will change from the best rate in town to the worse rate in town with just ONE default!
May 17, 2008 at 10:30 AMAnonymous: when can move in the spring? quite worried about the smell..
May 17, 2008 at 11:20 AMAnonymous: I am an IJM staff who can buy The Spring very early with better price, but I did not buy. That's the only comment I have. Sorry I cannnot give further info. :)
May 17, 2008 at 11:28 AMAnonymous: Why did you buy the bridge view unit ?. The ferry view units should not any problem with smell or afternoon sun.
May 17, 2008 at 11:50 AMAnonymous: I am the developer's staff who can buy The Spring very early with better price and I bought 3 units. Type A, B & C units.

I did not regret buying. Will hold on to the units until the price appreciate further.

Jackly
May 17, 2008 at 6:39 PMAnonymous: hahaa... if both of you are the developer's staff, then I am James Bond. :-)
May 17, 2008 at 10:22 PMAnonymous: Just wondering, how many mths after OC only we can move in ?. Nautilus Bay already 6 mths after OC but no one have move in. Why is this so? Are they still waiting for something ? Sigh, must we also wait that long after OC ?

The promenade is very nice. Just went there just now. All the streets' lights are now lighted up already. Just could not wait for SPRING to be completed. :-)

~Chin Eng~
May 18, 2008 at 11:44 AMAnonymous: hi to all The Spring owners,
Thanks for the feedback..i chose Zero Entry loan (good or bad; i'm not sure but i know its too late to change it already :-|)
also, it would be a hassle (at least to me) to find right lawyers & all the mumbo-jumbo payments to both sides of the party); well, m waiting to sign the S&P now :-P

anyway, jz a note worth mentioning, pls read all the clauses pertaining to yr loan carefully..
example: i received loan offer from citibank stating that their BLR rate is 6.8% instead of 6.75%, besides that, their payment & interest structure is not constant at all. in event of late payment, some banks can revert to a totally different rates, tie in period, or penalty charge if you settle your housing loan earlier or opt for refinancing with other banks.. jz a food for thought :-)

hi Chin Eng,i went to the promenade yesterday as well, nicely & tastefully done..but i'm worried that vagabonds might take up the space there instead of rightful owners of the area (Nautilus & The Spring owners)..
one thing's for sure, the promenade is really eye catching & i can't wait to move in soon :-)

btw, did any of u notice an empty ground opposite The Spring & beside Nautilus (near to the river mouth)? i wonder what that plot of land is for...

-ciplak @ C14-
May 18, 2008 at 5:24 PMAnonymous: To the person who wrote this:
"I am the developer's staff who can buy The Spring very early with better price and I bought 3 units. Type A, B & C units.

I did not regret buying. Will hold on to the units until the price appreciate further.

Jackly"

You don't have to tell us, nobody is asking you. Keep it as long as you like. I mean, who cares? let's talk about the banks loan..thanks
May 18, 2008 at 6:14 PMAnonymous: Does anyone know when the SPRING's showroom will be ready for viewing ?

How about it's official launching ?
May 18, 2008 at 6:34 PMAnonymous: Anybody have any idea which shop sells furniture that is value for money ?

This is my first home. Got excited and got too carried away in the purchase of SPRING and forgot all about renovations. Now abit tiedup financially and is looking for the best furniture shop in town that sells cheap and good products.

Thanks in advance.
May 18, 2008 at 10:13 PMAnonymous: To the person who wrote to "Jackly":

"You don't have to tell us, nobody is asking you. Keep it as long as you like. I mean, who cares? "

Just wanna know why u wrote this. I think you are jealous.

Everyone has the right to share their opinion/view, if cannot accept it just keep quiet la.
May 18, 2008 at 10:23 PMAnonymous: hi Anonymous on the top,
same situation here..i guess we're roughly on the same boat :-P
depends on what you wanted though..

i have surveyed a few:
Arredo (Macalister Rd & QB)
Mekio (Burmah Rd)
Kamay (Gurney & QB)
Skipped Lorenzo cos i heard the price is abit too steep :-|

summary:
Arredo and Kamay is quite good (in terms of quality & price).
- QB outlet has 2 bedroom set. first one consists of King sized bed + wardrobe + side table + full view mirror (RM5K plus).
- Another consists of King sized bed + wardrobe + side table + make up desk (RM3K plus)

Mekio is not in my list cos the furnitures are not tastefully done & quality is not so good. example: the cabinet door doesnt close properly, door to door height is not the same & some of it not made from solid wood

Arredo & Mekio accepts 30% downpayment for booking purpose & will keep the furniture for you. remaining 70% to be paid upon delivery.

i would appreciate if there're more info that we can share here..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 18, 2008 at 10:59 PMAnonymous: hey to you both up there discussing about furnitures, why don consider build-in cabinets? They do bed and another tables as per request. This will safe more space expecially the wardrobe can be build up to the ceiling. This safes alot of space and it look nicer. Of course, i think it's a wee bit more expensive that those bedroom set in Arredo or Kamay. Just my idea. Cheers...
May 19, 2008 at 12:09 AMAnonymous: I agreed that build in wardrobe does safe a lot of space and look great. At the same time, you can custom made to the designs and colours you want especially when this is your first house. Furthermore, the price might be cheaper than you buy from Kamay or Affredo.
May 19, 2008 at 2:46 AMAnonymous: For that u can check out SliderDrobe... one of the leading franchise for designer wardrobes and kitchens. One branch is behind Megamall Pinang in Prai
May 19, 2008 at 1:25 PMAnonymous: Maybe you all can try Cellini (oposite Penang Free School).
May 19, 2008 at 1:57 PMAnonymous: hi to all,
custom made furniture is a good idea..anyone can leave any contacts here?
however, i hv my reservations due to the following reasons:
1) worried bout termite attack.my current house (owned by my parents of course :-P) has built in upper cabinet & the whole back portion of the cabinet is filled with termites
2) not feasible to move it around

Plus points:
1) might be cheap (i'm not sure)
2) custom made to fill up the excess space
3) custom made design to suit our taste

I missed out Cellini.must go to visit their showroom this weekend.. thanks for the tips..

any other inputs?

-ciplak @ C14-
May 19, 2008 at 5:21 PMAnonymous: was just back from the spring. tried to sneak up to my unit like my friend did last week but was cautioned by the workers there so decided against it lo.. Ha Ha! My A-13-08 looks magnificient from the outside.

Also, the promenade behind nautilus looks great as the waters are even clearer than gurney! Just wondering what is the plot of land beside nautilus earmarked for? Any idea? Saw a jabatan pendaratan perikanan and a temple near the spring as well..any concerns i wonder....

And whats the 4 tall blue poles near nautilus / ocean view junction suppose to be?
May 20, 2008 at 9:22 AMAnonymous: For lightings and electrical items, you may wanna visit Sin Heng. Things there are quite cheap compare to other places.
May 20, 2008 at 1:09 PMAnonymous: Several more concerns:
1. The high rise and high density is built on newly reclaimed land (less than 3 years). Will it sink in future?
2. Facing an flyover ( Chinese pantang)
3. Lease Hold
4. Do you want to choose the drain facing unit?
5. I actually persuade my friend not to take up this deal with IJM.
Demand is high, but how many are the actual residents who want to live inside there? Think twice
May 20, 2008 at 1:19 PMAnonymous: How about PDC mutiara Pica? I think is far more better than The Spring.
May 20, 2008 at 2:14 PMAnonymous: AHOY..!!! SORE LOSERS ABOUND..!!!

surprisingly there're still sore losers out there who stil wana get their so called "pathethic voice-of-concern" through..

come on, wake up & read through the last 100 to 150 blog entries here (or you're too ignorant to do so; which kinda explains it all :-P)..these are actual ppl who paid out of their pocket to stay at The Spring & we don't need your "kind-hearted-concerns" thank you very much..

if u follow all the pantang stuff, u can't live anywhere else except "sitting on the hill overlooking the sea"..translate that to hokkien if you're a "real-penang-kia"...

-ciplak @ C14-
May 20, 2008 at 2:15 PMAnonymous: Ai ya, THE SPRING already sold out la. Not much you can do already.

As far as I am concern, I purhase SPRING to live there. If no one else wants to stay there, good for me also. Lower density.

At least, I have ciplak as my neighbour.

Cheers,
Bi Lien
May 20, 2008 at 2:28 PMAnonymous: Wei boss, Mutiara Pica not completed yet la. How to stay ?

Somemore only one car park. So expensive compared to SPRING. So far from town how to buy ?.

Might as well buy house in Balik Pulau.

Chin Eng
May 20, 2008 at 4:23 PMSaber: That land is already there for more than 7 years

Same thing will go for Summer Place, a lot of criticisms, this and that. But it will be sold out during soft launch as well. Dont listen to what people say, they try to make you avoid that condo and they themself hope they have higher chance to buy
May 20, 2008 at 7:38 PMAnonymous: Hi ciplak,

Remember you ask what is the empty ground opposite The Spring & beside Nautilus (near to the river mouth)?

well, I finally got you the answer. IJM will use the plot of land for Recreational Facilities and Amenities.

Look at the map. http://bp0.blogger.com/_jnitJsnrRX4/SCkPBMuVv8I/AAAAAAAACdc/XX5LuRkrQ_A/s1600-h/Nautilus+Bay+(Location).jpg

~Chin Eng~
May 21, 2008 at 1:46 AMAnonymous: Good if you want to stay there, but i think is not good for investment since there are so many bulk buyers, for sure will have a lot of units for sale or rent when OC obtained in future.
May 21, 2008 at 11:34 AMAnonymous: remember to also avoid this contractor from "IDEAL PULSE". their handwork is questionable and the boss is ex-gangster.
May 21, 2008 at 11:52 AMAnonymous: from the catalog that i get fr IJM last year show that the vacant land beside the Spring is to build a school...
May 21, 2008 at 3:00 PMAnonymous: hi Ching Eng

IJM will use the plot of land for Recreational Facilities and Amenities.

Is this refer to the land beside the temple?

i wish we can obtain the OC asap. :)
Thanks.

--B.B --
May 21, 2008 at 3:24 PMAnonymous: i do not think that it's good to stay there. Why ?

1.Sewage
2.Dump site
3.Black river(mosquite breeding)
4.Near the highway and also flyover
5.Leasehold
6.Traffic jams (new school coming up just beside the Spring).
7.Noisy environment due to too near the school
8.Parking problem even though you hv 2 carpark.
May 21, 2008 at 4:25 PMAnonymous: Hi B.B,

It is the plot of land opposite The Spring & beside Nautilus.

Not the one near the temple.

~Chin Eng~
May 21, 2008 at 6:17 PMAnonymous: Is the school going to be built directly beside the spring near to the entrance?

-s j- @ C14
May 21, 2008 at 8:46 PMAnonymous: thanks Chin Eng.

can i ask few more questions on the interior look if u have heard of? :)

do u know is the flooring is 1 X 1 sqrft white tiles?
What is the height of our condo? i guess standard 8 ft? i woner does it come with plaster ceiling...

Really can;t wait to see.. yay..

Thanks.

--B.B ---
May 21, 2008 at 9:37 PMAnonymous: Below is the official URL for SPRING.

http://thespring.one.com.my/

~Chin Eng~
May 22, 2008 at 8:02 AMAnonymous: hi Chin Eng,
thanks for the info on the plot of land (its near the river mouth beside Nautilus). did u google for it from the net? the layout pics at The Spring website is really nice & contemporary..think im gonna follow the layout d..

anyway, i guess we all can be neighbours soon..yippee.. btw, i went pass there at midnite lastnite & d light they use at promenade is sooooooo nice.. wish i could post the pics here :-D

i received email from IJM ppl asking us to sign the S&P latest by end of this month..i'm gonna do it this Sat.. how bout u guys/girls? done it? how does it feel to buy your first house & signing the S&P?

-ciplak @ C14-
May 22, 2008 at 9:48 AMAnonymous: For anonymous who posted this :
http://bp0.blogger.com/_jnitJsnrRX4/SCkPBMuVv8I/AAAAAAAACdc/XX5LuRkrQ_A/s1600-h/Nautilus+Bay+(Location).jpg

If you interprete the map correctly, the recreation park is before the drain right opposite The Spring. The land beside temple (which IJM is working on some construction) is after the drain. Wonder who knows what is going to be built in that particular area?
(where supposed is the Summer Place location?)

CKC
May 22, 2008 at 10:25 AMAnonymous: Thanks CHin Eng for the web.

ciplak, i have the same excitement as u too !!! i will sign S&P this weekend too.. i also like the design in the web, i also though of follow the design. :) i guess that is thousand sqft show room cos the living room can fit a coffee table.

--B.B---
May 22, 2008 at 11:01 AMAnonymous: summer place is at the back of the shoplot which opposite Ocean View.
School is on the vacant land net to the Spring and near to traffic light and main road.
Near the traffic light have another land which IJM build the 'temporary house' for the squater, in future will change to commercial area.
The land at the back Shell & shoplot will be Goverment institution.
May 22, 2008 at 1:47 PMAnonymous: Hi Anonymous on the top,
thanks alot for your info..do u work in property based company? else how u managed to dig so much info regarding the surrounding area?

Hi BB,
have u tried going there at night? nowadays IJM will turn on the light poles at promenade & its really nice..
also if i'm not mistaken, the layout is done on Type B condo and not more than 1000sq ft unit (if i'm not wrong la).. cos last time the IJM personnel told me that they will construct a show unit based on Type B..

now its time to save up & start hunting for furniture.. i wonder when we can move into our new house.. :D

-ciplak @ C14-
May 22, 2008 at 2:14 PMAnonymous: the info i get is from the catalog i get during 2007 property fair.
the catalog have IJM northern region project update on BK Jamul Indah Developement, & PG Waterfront Developement (All the project listed from PG bridge --> along JL highway).
The catalog show 4phase of developement :
Phase1 : Waterfront (residential)
Phase2 : Waterfront (mixed developement, Waterfront --> front of E-gate)
Phase3 : Sea Front Park
Phase 4 Future Developement (JL express --> Desa Pinang2)

FYI. There is 3 school in IJM plan,
(1) beside the Spring
(2) In between of Desa Pinang & Desa Pinang 2
(3) Beside the 'rubbish hill'(in between the hill and malay ikan bakar)

whole developement plan stated clearly on the catalog...
May 22, 2008 at 2:31 PMAnonymous: There will be a mosque beside Summer Place condo. There is a small model of the jelutong area in IJM office. Just behind the Platino model.

By the way, I just sign S&P today. SPRING is no condo. The S&P states that SPRING is a medium cost apartment. Feel slightly cheated by IJM.

Anyhow, still feel happy cost first time buy house to stay. Do not care much whether if it can appreciate or not in price.

ah beng.
May 22, 2008 at 5:13 PMAnonymous: Hi guys,

Can we view the showroom yet?
Where is it?
Thanks.
May 22, 2008 at 6:07 PMAnonymous: Ah Beng

It doesnt matter if its medium cost apartment, its correct. You can sell the apartment to foreigner(>250k) and everyone who wants to buy, thats the meaning. Checked with few non-IJM panel lawyers and they say it its correct and normal. So relax, its just a term, IJM didnt cheat you :)
May 22, 2008 at 7:36 PMAnonymous: Thank you for the explaination. Now I can sleep well tonite.

I heard that the showroom will be ready end of MAY (next week). The showroom is Type B. It is located at IJM Penang office. (Upstairs)

Ah Beng.
May 23, 2008 at 1:49 PMAnonymous: Dear all,
I'm gonna sign S&P tomorrow. since i'm a first time buyer, is there anything which we should take note before signing the S&P?
any fine prints or specific details which i should consider?
any pointers will be highly appreciated..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 23, 2008 at 2:22 PMAnonymous: yeah me too, at 10am... my lawyer is khaw cheaw poh at level 12, menara penang garden. Ciplak if u are there same time, lets meet up. great to c who the ciplak is :)
May 23, 2008 at 4:42 PMAnonymous: I was told that my lawyer is Winston, Ng & Teoh. Anybody is assigned to the same lawyer? Is this lawfirm good?

I thought we can choose our own lawyer among 6 panels.

Anybody contact with you to let you know what to do for signing S&P?
May 23, 2008 at 4:42 PMAnonymous: Hey, I see some of you post in this blog like expert, and can't believe that it is just your first time.

Normally the S&P is standard one. The lawyer should explain every clause to you. Pls request so if the lawyer don't explain in details. It is worth to spend some time to understand what you are buying and those dos and don'ts. Also, this is the time what ever question we have. However, it is normal that you will not able to understand everything in the S&P.

Finally, check your name, IC #, units # , parcel #, and the price. And ensure all the facilities, accessories and utilities promised by developer, is attached to the S&P.

You need to initial at every page. Also, there will be more than 1 document to be signed.

Hope this help.
May 23, 2008 at 6:35 PMAnonymous: I also signed with Winston, Ng & Teoh.

Should be ok. I hope. :-)

~Chin Eng~
May 23, 2008 at 7:20 PMAnonymous: I really don't know what to do as this is my first house -_-"

I'm still comparing offers from different banks. Am I too slow? Anyway, must sign bank offer letter and S&P next week.

I have some questions:

1. Do I need to sign S&P or bank offer letter first?

2. What about loan agreement? Is it ok to sign S&P before loan agreement? I am really blur now.

3. What document we need to bring when signing S&P?

4. What is parcel number? Is it unique for each unit?

Sorry to have many questions (and might sounds stupid). First time buyer, still have many things to learn.

Thank you.
May 23, 2008 at 10:03 PMAnonymous: if u are confident of securing a loan, then u can go ahead to sign SPA first regardless of whether your loan has been approved yet. Otherwise, wait for the loan if not IJM will forfeit yur deposit if u dun come up with money in 2 months time....

I heard from a friend the clock starts ticking 2 months after u place deposit, i.e. within 2 months yur bank must pay IJM liao if not they start charging interests. Can someone confirm this?

Also, our remaining leasehold is 97instead of 99 years as assumed...
May 23, 2008 at 10:56 PMAnonymous: hi all,
i'm back :-) btw, i tried selecting Khaw Cheow Poh as well but alas, IJM said my panel lawyer is Winston, Ng & Teoh (same as Chin Eng)..i hope he's good as well.. :-P
i will be going to the lawyer office at Northam Tower tomorrow for S&P signing at 11am :-)
well,at least now we know that we're all a bunch of first time house buyers :-D
i'm jz a normal guy with 2 ears and 2 nose hole..hahahah (okok..its a bad joke :-P ; too excited)..yippee..!!

to anonymous on the top,
thanks for the pointers on lawyer issue..will definately spend time with them to go through the specific details related to the house purchase

oh,final point..i think its correct that our condo's tenure has 97yrs left cos they used up 2yrs to build it..quite good a record for one construction project.

-ciplak @ C14-
May 23, 2008 at 11:47 PMAnonymous: Ciplak, who is your IJM sales person ? Maybe which lawyer you are given depends on who is your IJM sales person.

Mine is Jacky Chan.

By the way, your bank loan agreement lawyer will also be whoever is your S&P lawyer.

~Chin Eng~
May 24, 2008 at 1:04 AMAnonymous: On which lawyer, its yur choice actually.... By law,you can choose who you want your loan lawyer to be, not necessarily the SPA lawyer. IJM ppl will surely intimidate you by saying that if you take a different lawyer, the process will be slower as the SPA lawyer may deliberately delay in liaising with yur loan lawyer in releasing the loan.

However, from a logic point of view, would you rather have your OWN lawyer to protect yur interests rather than getting the developer's panel lawyer (which of course would serve the best interest of the developer) to represent you as well?

For those taking non-zero cost loans, i have checked that some panel lawyers are charging more than independent lawyers.

But at the end of the day its yur choice really...
May 24, 2008 at 4:59 PMAnonymous: Hi Guys,

My friend was just back from the SPA signing today He bought his unit on 26th April by paying 10% deposit. It seems that IJM's panel lawyer is insisting that his SPA signed today has to be dated 26th April instead of the date of signing which is today. Reason is, if u pay up 10% deposit, yur SPA - 2 month grace period for loans starts running eventhough u havent signed the SPA!!! In this case, my freind only has one month to find and draw down the loan,

And the irony - if you have not paid 10% during registration and only will pay up difference upon signing the SPA, you wont be affected by this clause.

So for those who have not signed SPA and already paid 10%, u will have only about a month left to complete yur loan and stuff!
May 24, 2008 at 5:02 PMAnonymous: Hi Chin Eng,
My IJM sales rep is Alex Lim..i guess they have their own way to distribute the lawyer to represent us..

anyway, i signed the SPA tis morning :-D signed both bank documents and house docs at the same time..so many docs to sign..end up my initial doesnt look the same by the end of the session..hahaha..

oh, remember to request the lawyer to make a copy for your EPF withdrawal else they might not do it..

drove to The Spring & Promenade area after that.. somehow i had that feeling of upmost satisfaction that i've made the right choice.. if you guys/girls didnt know yet, The Oasis project is really messy now.. :-| luckily i chose The Spring.. :-)

btw, the lawyer told me that few years (2yrs to 8yrs) after we obtained the OC, we will have to fork out roughly around RM4~6k for the transfer from Master Title to Strata Title.. i don't know what is that..perhaps somebody can help in this matter?

for those who havent signed the SPA..happy signing :-)

-ciplak @ C14-
May 24, 2008 at 5:37 PMAnonymous: Ooh my god! You don't even know what master title and strata title is?

Now i understand how can someone bought The Spring and those demand came from. Hope you really found a good home to stay...
May 24, 2008 at 7:36 PMAnonymous: "Ooh my god! You don't even know what master title and strata title is?

Now i understand how can someone bought The Spring and those demand came from. Hope you really found a good home to stay..."

To the above, if u cant give good advice, go back to your oasis forum and think of a good way to salvage your 10% deposit from nusmetro...

the whole plot of land spring is built on comes under one master title, which will subsequently be divided into strata titles upon subdivision, 1-3 years down the road. strata titles go to the individual owners of the apartments. In any property transaction, buyers with titles will have to pay a stamp duty to govt according to a scale i.e. 1% for first RM100,000 and 2% for subsequent RM200,000 etc...When IJM sells the unit to you,the above duty does not apply yet cos there is no strata title. so they just charge you nominal fee of RM10. When the strata title comes into play, u will have to pay a stamp duty as per schedule, which i reckon would be the rm4000-6000 u are talking abt...
May 25, 2008 at 12:34 AMAnonymous: thanks for the explanation cereal killa..really appreciate it..

to the anonymous on the top,i don't know who's yr God but i respect Him the same.. so if u can't give good advise, don't say Oh My God!! its a bad reference to start with..i guess being pretentious is yr way of impressing other ppl..i pity you..

the main reason i asked is because i'm not an expert so i don't pretend to be one..its always better get second opinion..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 25, 2008 at 10:03 PMAnonymous: No more updates or news for the Spring project?
May 26, 2008 at 12:07 AMAnonymous: did you guy sign S&P @ lawyer firm with attendance of your sale person as well? To whom you paid your remaining balance of 10% to?
Did you guys check through the important information written in S&P? Is the car park entitled 'strata' as well?

-CKC-
May 26, 2008 at 1:17 AMAnonymous: u guys heard of the new pg govt's stance to allow application to convert leasehold properties to freehold? Can IJM do the same for spring? I dun mind paying a conversion premium.
May 26, 2008 at 8:12 AMAnonymous: why is that we have to refer to only the panel legal firm from the developer? are they giving any nice rate?

I thought we as the consumer, who has the ultimate right for the selection.

Yet the commencement date should start on the day we signed the S&P.
May 26, 2008 at 8:32 AMAnonymous: hi CKC,
the IJM sales person is not with me when i signed the SPA..it doesnt matter anyway cos the terms & conditions are quite standard..
jz refer to few blogs on top on things to check before u sign the docs..

Car park lot is mentioned as part of the SPA. 2 designated lots per unit..they have exploded views from area, location up till yr condo block but, the actual layout of your INDIVIDUAL unit is not available (i requested for my unit layout with measurement details for furniture planning :-)). the lawyer said tat i shud approch IJM to get tat info/layout.. i will call IJM later & will update u guys/girls later

btw, i will also ask IJM about the freehold conversion status cos Pg State government mentioned that they will allow this on case to case basis..but if u ask me, i think IJM will put Nautilus on priority first..just my opinion anyway..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 26, 2008 at 10:34 AMAnonymous: Hi C14,

Is the 2 carparks lot number stated in the S&P? The 2 carparks are beside each other or located on diff floor?

Besides, the remaining 10% is paid during S&P signing or go to IJM sales office?
May 26, 2008 at 11:20 AMAnonymous: No conversion possible, look at Nautilus Bay, even house also can't convert, how u expect apartment to be converted?

About parking, don't get the higher ground, try to get lower ground and pay more $$ also nvm
May 26, 2008 at 11:34 AMAnonymous: Anybody has any idea on Fire Insurance? Do we need to buy now from bank? Or developer will buy together for us and then we pay to developer?
May 26, 2008 at 12:41 PMAnonymous: Car Park allocation is stated in the S&P. They hilighted it with highlighter. Unfortunately, the parking allocated for me is abit far from my unit. My Myabank sales person told me, the bank will take up the fireinsurance on my behalf and charge into the housing loan account. Do you guys think we can exchange the car park so that we can get nearer car park to our unit?

cywee
May 26, 2008 at 1:31 PMAnonymous: get as low ground as possible. go up too many levels waste gas
May 26, 2008 at 1:48 PMAnonymous: No conversion possible, look at Nautilus Bay, even house also can't convert, how u expect apartment to be converted? <--- To the person who say this, u are so powerful that you can overwrite Lim Guan Eng? :)
May 26, 2008 at 4:07 PMAnonymous: This is one of the potential problem. A separated multi-story car park, look nice by not practical. Like N-park, people prefer to park at road side rather than park at higher level of the car park. Waste gas and also your time to walk from your car to your unit. It is worst if you just come back from shopping.
IJM should design the car park at lower level in he same block, so once get out from your car, you can use the nearest life and go up straight to your level.
May 26, 2008 at 4:19 PMAnonymous: if the car park is far from your unit, you should be happy what. you get to exercise everyday by walking to your car. Healthier ma.

ah soon
May 26, 2008 at 4:42 PMAnonymous: hi all,
i got the layout of my unit with measurement from IJM Alex. u should call yr respective IJM contact person to get yr unit layout with measurement.

Parking spot is side by side & indicated with highlighter in the SPA.

also IJM will not proceed with freehold conversion for The Spring because they've committed to bank on leasehold status. Different story for Nautilus though cos they're pursuing freehold status for Nautilus. Perhaps that's the reason no one moved in even after OC approved.

-ciplak @ C14-
May 26, 2008 at 5:20 PMAnonymous: Is the measurements in detail (Architect’s floor plan)?. eg :- Exact measurements of toilet, bedroom, balcony, living hall.

Thanks.
~Chin Eng~
May 26, 2008 at 5:30 PMAnonymous: The show unit is available at the IJM office. Please contact your sales agent to make appointment with him/her before you go to view the show unit. I have make the appointment to go on this Saturday at 10 am. By the way, the sales agent said that IJM show unit is available from 10 am - 5 pm this Saturday. Don't forget to get your house measurement layout from your sales agent. Without the house measurement layout, you will not be able to let your house designer to provide free quotation for you. Do get it earlier, so that you can start doing survey.
May 26, 2008 at 5:30 PMAnonymous: does anyone know how much does the bank loan agreement cost ?.

ah soon
May 26, 2008 at 5:40 PMAnonymous: started a lot of negative comments on this project.
May 26, 2008 at 5:42 PMAnonymous: I have sign my S&P last week at Stella Soo Geok Choo & Co. I was assigned to Ibrahim & Khim but I am not happy with the service and I heard from some bankers that Ibrahim & Khim legal fees are more expensive out of the 6 panel lawyer. Thus, I insist that I would like to change my panel lawyer to Stell Soo. I choose Stella Soo coz they are effective and efficient.

I have signed with Maybank for the loan package. I took the NZMC where the BLR-2.5%. As long as you auto-debit your account, you don't need to worry that you will be penalty for late payment and the BLR rate will auto change to BLR-2%. For those of you who pay for you own loan legal fee, please check out the legal fee before you decide which legal firm you want to take up. The reason is you aren't paying only the loan legal fee, you will only need to pay them when you are asked by IJM to transfer the Master Grant Title from IJM to your name. You will not get the master Grand Title although after transfer as the bank will keep that until you have completed your loan payment. Upon completion, you need to pay a sum of money to transfer the master grant title to you. If the legal firm charge you high now...then don't expect they will be able to give discount to you later.
May 26, 2008 at 5:59 PMAnonymous: Loan agreement legal cost depends on the loan amount you borrow from bank.

Legal fees for loan documentation:
1st RM100,000 - 1% of loan amount (min RM200)
Next 4.9 millionn - 0.5% of loan sum.

Guidelines on other charges:-
Deed of assignment : RM200.00
Power of Attorney : RM200.00
Statutory Declaration (2 sets): RM100.00
Filing fee on power of attorney: RM65.00
Purchase of documents: RM200
Processing fee for consent to charge: RM100
Property search : RM90.00
Bankruptcy search : RM24.00
Misc : RM50.00
Please bear in mind that this is just serve as a guidelines as different legal firms charge differently
May 26, 2008 at 6:06 PMAnonymous: I visited Brano Kitchen and Verra Kitchen. I noticed that the price quoted by Verra Kitchen is so much more expensive than Brano Kitchen. Both kitchen concept qualities are almost the same. Anyone know any other companies that can design a nice and quality kitchen besides the above two companies?
May 26, 2008 at 9:02 PMAnonymous: OH MY God the spring fence is so terrible... how come condo does so bad fence.. you guys got to take a look on that ya... Terrible Le......
May 26, 2008 at 10:04 PMAnonymous: anonymous above, how much the loan legal fee the lawyer firm charged? Anyone got idea how effecient is Winston Ng & Teoh Lawyer firm? I was assigned to this lawyer firm but yet to sign up S&P. Any recommendation on which lawyer firm is efficient and best in service among the other panels?

-CKC-
May 27, 2008 at 1:40 AMAnonymous: Eh kawan, its a temporary fence la... why dun u complain the ground is uneven and muddy also... becos Spring is still in CONSTRUCTION stage mah...
May 27, 2008 at 1:41 AMAnonymous: guys, i have checked out several outside lawyers and they are definitely much cheaper than the panel lawyers... seriously... just do yur homework.
May 27, 2008 at 8:04 AMAnonymous: For kitchen, I think "My Kitchen" located in butterwoth is the most cheapest one. If you don't mind, please leave ur contact & name here. So I can ask that guy to contact u.
May 27, 2008 at 9:14 AMAnonymous: The fence is the actual fence not a temporary one. Don't you think that it is kind if artistic? It's the first of its kind. Other developers will follow suit.

Shall we combine to set up the maintenance committee ?

~Chin Eng~
May 27, 2008 at 11:13 AMAnonymous: i don't think that the fence is actual one, maybe u can call to ur representative sale man and confirm about it.

i am sure IJM quality will not come with this kind of design.
May 27, 2008 at 12:15 PMAnonymous: Hopefully la or else I will banned IJM projects in future.
May 27, 2008 at 4:57 PMAnonymous: Current Spring sub-sale price is 40k-50k from original price. Source is few lawyer firms who handle the subsale for the buyer/seller.

Just to update you guys on the current situation
May 27, 2008 at 5:06 PMAnonymous: Serious? Which lawyer firm? Who told you that?

Or are you one of the bulk buyers or IJM staff?
May 27, 2008 at 5:09 PMAnonymous: That is right the fence look very urgly. No standard. Are you sure this frence for temporary? Any one call IJM to get the detail information.
May 27, 2008 at 6:58 PMAnonymous: "Current Spring sub-sale price is 40k-50k from original price. Source is few lawyer firms who handle the subsale for the buyer/seller.

Just to update you guys on the current situation"

Its up to u guys to believe or not lo... Free market ma... People who dun believe mostly have no units to sell. For those who have, you may not wanna underprice yur sale lo...
May 27, 2008 at 8:12 PMAnonymous: I think that fence is permamently. Impossible IJM do double job.
May 27, 2008 at 9:55 PMAnonymous: wah if yur 6th floor a block can sell 330, my ferry facing A018-08 can sell 400?
May 27, 2008 at 10:06 PMAnonymous: Hey tell your client to keep the unit to him/herself. Wan to sell at 330K?must be crazy.this is not the way to make money.type a 6th floor initial price was like 266K (if bought at soft launch. If bought earlier would be cheper by 10K).so greedy!wan to make so much money.i hope he/she can't sell the unit and has to keep it till the end of the lease period of 99 years.Opportunist...
May 27, 2008 at 10:26 PMAnonymous: rm330K for 6th floor and 921sqft leased hold? ridiculous! I will go for Surin, though rm370K, can last me for yrs when i hv kids, with 1307sf free hold and good nice neighbourhood + infinity swimming pool.. hmm, mayb i should get it!
May 27, 2008 at 10:30 PMAnonymous: add this; RM330K + legal fees + SPA = wah lau ehh
May 27, 2008 at 10:53 PMAnonymous: anonymous above, how much the loan legal fee the lawyer firm charged? Anyone got idea how effecient is Winston Ng & Teoh Lawyer firm? I was assigned to this lawyer firm but yet to sign up S&P. Any recommendation on which lawyer firm is efficient and best in service among the other panels?

-CKC-

Hi, CKC! My legal fee for loan is RM3.2K from Stella Soo. My suggestion is you called up your IJM sales agent and tell them that you want to sign your S & P agreement and provide the date you want to sign to the sales agent so that he/she can inform the lawyer. I choose Stella Soo coz they are very efficiency. I have a few colleagues also compliment for their service too. Another efficient lawyer firm is Khoo, Oscar & Loh. You may try to ask them to do for you.
May 27, 2008 at 10:55 PMAnonymous: I have asked the IJM sales agent regarding the fence several weeks ago. The sales agent asked me not to worry as that is the temporary fence. He said IJM will not give an ugly fence as this will drop their standard in quality as well as their reputation.
May 27, 2008 at 10:57 PMAnonymous: If sell 330k-266k = 64k difference. Alila people profiting 110k. Putra Place 250k-160k=90k. Oceanview 190k-120k=70k Times Square 360k-260k=100k

I do not own spring, i am just a broker and sharing what is really going on in penang market. I have few people who bought subsale from lowest 40k-60k onwards, not from me but my other agent friends who sold it told me about it

It looks reasonable or still not way beyond the other condos. And for the person who type Surin for 370k, the cheapest unit you can get in Surin is 430k low floor and you need to wait 3 years till the condo is built and also think of the interest that you service to the bank
May 27, 2008 at 11:03 PMCereal Killa 2011: while i am curious how a 6th floor can fetch RM330K, I am equally amused how u can compared a RM370K condo which hasn't even been built yet against a 90% built project by a far much established developer?

Just hope your surin dun end up like oasis ya?
May 27, 2008 at 11:06 PMAnonymous: To the person who list out the profit difference between all the condos, I have to agree with you. You seen to know the market price well :P
May 27, 2008 at 11:10 PMAnonymous: To the broker above,

dun bother to comment la...sure got sore losers who cant bear to c ppl make a quick buck. If they are so efficient, chances are they would be selling too...
May 27, 2008 at 11:20 PMAnonymous: To the broker who said that earning RM66K for springs is normal, how can you compared springs profit earnings with that of Alila, Ocean View and TImes Square.These condos are of different category as Springs. Springs is just a normal condo whereas Alila etc are higher end condos.Compare the launch price and you will get what i mean. So for high end condos, people are willing to pay the premium for better facilities perhaps. But what does Springs has to offer? A swimming pool which Springs doesn't have?
May 27, 2008 at 11:20 PMAnonymous: the spring.. ahh.. fresh air.. and aroma.. haha
May 27, 2008 at 11:22 PMAnonymous: Hot Hot Hot ~~~!!!

Going to 600 posts ~~~!!!
May 27, 2008 at 11:24 PMAnonymous: Congratulation to all spring owner since you can earn so much from selling... good work broker and hope your buyer don't run away.
May 27, 2008 at 11:26 PMAnonymous: just my thought.. i think brezza will be better than spring.. at least v can expect better return and value for money even if v stay then sell it after yrs down d road.. well both oso leased hold though brezza might hv a chance of converting. i would like spring if i can get bumi unit, but >rm320K, must think hard.. nowadays, our pockets are stretch to d limit!
May 27, 2008 at 11:26 PMAnonymous: To KW, for your info, Bolton (developer for Surin) is listed on the main board of KLSE. It's nothing lesser than IJM.

FYI, I'm not the person who commented on Surin. Just happen to pass by this blog spot and saw your comment was doing Bolton a great unfairness.
May 27, 2008 at 11:34 PMAnonymous: Haha... At the rate Springs is priced at, I think all potential buyers will run away to other more worth projects. Good work to all the current owners. You are really doing a good job at chasing away potential buyers.
May 27, 2008 at 11:35 PMAnonymous: To the broker who said that earning RM66K for springs is normal, how can you compared springs profit earnings with that of Alila, Ocean View and TImes Square.These condos are of different category as Springs. Springs is just a normal condo whereas Alila etc are higher end condos.Compare the launch price and you will get what i mean<<--- To the person who say this, you dont even know condo and apartment names and you dare to comment. The price I give is their launching price Alila 340k, Oceanview is only 120k and Times square is 260k. Yet ALL the above is getting much more return already. Please do your calculation if you cant understand and some people dont mind not having swimming pool because some 'intruders' (teenagers) always tend to sneak inside for a swim so it will disrupt the neighborhood inside
May 27, 2008 at 11:35 PMAnonymous: I have went online to do gather some information on the supplier list for kitchen designer. Below are some of the information that I would like to share with those who are interested:-
Name: Ching Kwang Furniture
Address: 1179, Main Road, Bukit Tengah, 14000 Bukit Mertajam, Penang.
Contact: 04-5074610
Fax: 04-5071799
H/P: 019-4457899 (Madam Goh)
Email:sales@chingkwangfurniture.com Alice@chingkwangfurniture.com

Company Name : Skillful Interior Design & Decoration
Address : Blk 98-1-20, Prima Tanjung Business Centre
Jalan Fettes 10470 Tanjung Tokong, Penang
Tel:04-899 8950
H/P: 012-4227103
Website: www.skillfulpenangid.com

Company name: Sendimax Sdn Bhd
Address: 20-G, Jalan Kampung Gajah Seksyen 2, Taman Bagan Jermal, 12200 Butterworth.
Contact: 04-3101017/04-3101018
Fax: 04-3101016
Email: sales@mykitchen.com.my

Company Name: Amglo Consult Sdn Bhd
Address: 3-G-12, Desa Mutiara, Lorong Delima 20, Penang
Contact: 04-6587110
Email: info@pwsmalaysia.com

Company Name: Brano (M) Sdn Bhd
Address: 98-A, Jalan Air Itam, Penang
Contact: 04-2299298

Company Name: Mekio Kitchen & Design
Address: B24C, Relau, Bayan Lepas, Penang
Contact: 04-6461379
Address: 19C, Lebuhraya Batu Lanchang, Penang
Contact: 04-6562882
May 27, 2008 at 11:41 PMAnonymous: wow.. tis place is like real time chat room.. for me, i opt baystar :) Wonder whether spring can bounce to baystar's price range.. so hot out of control.. then bayswater will be in d bracket of sri pangkor??

ted
May 27, 2008 at 11:42 PMAnonymous: Wow thanks for the sharing, deeply appreciated

Anyway, if anyone who wants to sell off their units please drop me an email at thespring81@yahoo.com and please leave your handphone number so i can contact you

I have few interested customers especially Type E. But any Type is welcome. Thanks !
May 27, 2008 at 11:52 PMAnonymous: Baystar price increase so much already.....only left lowest floor when i ask in Queensbay property fair on Sunday. Salesperson told me 600k + is the selling price for it

1 unit almost 200k profit if u bought in 2007
May 27, 2008 at 11:54 PMAnonymous: excuse me.. guess wat, i got my surin for rm370K+.. so i deemed good buy considering tat a lot of ppl saying its way above rm400K. Now my headache is renovation/furnishing cost for 1307sf.. at least i don hv to worry bout flooring cz its 2x2 tiles :)

limpeh
May 28, 2008 at 12:01 AMAnonymous: Wa lau, this blog spot is certainly hot. Now other condos (Surin, Brezza, Times Square) coming in. Haha.. the broker who mentioned Surin cheapest was RM430, I think you have to eat your words and do some homework. Lim Peh above got it for way much cheaper.
May 28, 2008 at 12:04 AMAnonymous: 370k?

Bolton Surin cheapest price is RM388,988 and for that price is facing hill. Please dont simply type things but judging from the way you sign off (limpeh), guess you can type what you want

Am i the 600th post? haha
May 28, 2008 at 12:06 AMAnonymous: The broker is correct, he means seaview. For non seaview you can get at 388,988 lowest floor hill facing.

Check Surin blog if you dont believe
May 28, 2008 at 12:09 AMAnonymous: actually spring is not bad lor bcos of location.. i went to soft launch but.. aiyo, too late. now better focus other apartments bcos investors wan2 make profit from my blood & sweat money.. money no enuff ahhh.. sri pinang not bad mahh, so much cheaper & share same location too wat.. can buy 2 units to combine.. hehe
May 28, 2008 at 12:22 AMAnonymous: sri pinang is low-medium cost la, need to be eligible to buy
May 28, 2008 at 12:24 AMAnonymous: helloo.. i ord signed spa at rm375,988 to be exact, Very HIGH foor (>26 floors including the 5 level carparks n community hall) facing infinity pool.. there r still few more units left for seaview at rm383K+ the least, if u r quick enuff and instead of relying to false info here and watever site u read. And if u telan bulat bulat everytg u read, then i guess u will c a lot of -ve comments bout spring though its so undoubtedly very popular. beware, there r a lot of false comments too. quick, office at prima tanjung.

limpeh
May 28, 2008 at 12:28 AMAnonymous: i can used my famili 2 apply for sri pinang mah.. anyway under counter got a lot of activities.. kepala pusing, hehe..
May 28, 2008 at 12:39 AMAnonymous: what happen to this blog? surin, brezza, sri pinang? interesting. Yalor.. if i believed all the negative stuff and misleading information, i would not have gone early to get my unit in spring.. yahoo! since there is a self acclaimed expert supporting the view 330K is not expensive, interestingly, i think i better think twice about staying, can make quick bucks! anymore experts to back him up? 350K for my A unit above 11 floors?
May 28, 2008 at 1:12 AMAnonymous: This Spring blog is the greatest! Greatest concentration of losers in the planet in one blog - those who criticize block buyers on April 26 are the probably the same ones who criticise the soft launch coz they failed to get a unit again and definitely are the same few who become super jealous now when spring subsales start to go sky high...

sigh, life's like dat...there can only be winners if there are losers
May 28, 2008 at 1:14 AMAnonymous: wow..600plus blog entries in few hours time..i checked it once in the afternoon & now at 1am & i got shocked!!
anyway,to update the regular bloggers here..

1) Show unit is available at IJM office. its open even on Sat but have to make appointment first..also, contact ur IJM representative to get yr unit layout with dimension for quotation or planning purpose

2) fencing is temporary..either that or i think they might spruce it up with vegetation (saw this concept at Sogo Yokohama)..im sure IJM will make The Spring live up to its theme of THE SPRING SEASON

3) lawyer stuff (no comment cos i signed my SPA with Winston Ng & Teoh under Zero Entry package)

4) I have confirmed with my colleague who's staying at Bayswater that they don't have to setup committee to take care of the facilities cos IJM will nominate external facility maintenance company. but in reference to CHIN ENG's blog entry, i would be glad to join the committee if there's one in The Spring

5) Thanks a bunch to the anonymous who posted the contact details for kitchen design

6) THIS IS ONE HOT BLOG SPOT..!!

-ciplak @ C14-
May 28, 2008 at 3:51 AMAnonymous: Actually I love spring cause it is strategically placed. Moreover it's maintenance fees is not high. Some other condo's maintenance is rm220++ inclusive of (sinking fund) which is expensive.

What's the use of swiming pool if you don't use it ?. If 4 persons from all units use it, then there will be no water but only people. Think about it.

ah soon
May 28, 2008 at 4:02 AMAnonymous: I feel SPRING have it's demand and attraction. If it is not in demand, why is this blog section comments reaching 600++ comments ?

Hurraahh... I am glad i own a unit and it is not for sale but for personal use. Will not even sell it for RM400K. Would not want to stay anywhere else.
May 28, 2008 at 4:20 AMAnonymous: Low cost apartments have got it's own problems la. Such as not safe (thieves & robberies), owners never pay maintenance, noise, building not upkeep properly, rubbish thrown from high floors, no car park, no facilites, no view, car or motorbike not safe, etc

Frm:-
just passing thru.
May 28, 2008 at 10:15 AMAnonymous: The Spring blog is the hottest by far.. :-)

anyway, i'm curious about the whole lawyer issue..FYI, i've signed the SPA with IJM appointed lawyers.. what are the implications if we signed with IJM appointed vs own appointed lawyers?

some ppl said that own lawyers will fight for our right & rate is cheaper but what is the real deal behind all these? anyone care to advise me on this so that i don't make similar "mistake" in future?

thanks a bunch

-ciplak @ C14-
May 28, 2008 at 10:44 AMAnonymous: Regarding the "horrible" fence, i called IJM and confirm that the fence is fix which what u have seen now..

The sale man know about this fence issue and they are trying to raise the problem to their boss. So, without our buyers comment, they cant show their boss the customer feedback. So, please send email regarding this issue to ur representative sale man so that they can raise the problem to their boss. Hopefully, they can make something on the fence, because it is really horrible.
May 28, 2008 at 1:58 PMAnonymous: I also feel that the fence doesn't look nice :( As I know, it's not temporaty one. However, we can write email to complain.

What do you think we should write in the email?
May 28, 2008 at 2:13 PMAnonymous: try to call your sales representative to issue this problem to acknowledge them on the dissatisfaction of ugly fence.
May 28, 2008 at 3:38 PMAnonymous: hi guys & girls,
its true..that's the permanent fencing..i've confirmed this matter over the phone about 5min ago..anyway,i've written a strong email to my IJM contact person & i suggest all of you to do the same.. attached is the email content:

Hi XXXXXXXXXX,
I went pass The Spring project on daily basis and I noticed that the fencing is a real ugly sight.
The design of the condo and the magnificent guard house does not go well with the fencing at all. In fact, it makes the whole place looks cheap if this kind of fencing is used.
I strongly hope that IJM will look into this issue because there is a lot of dissatisfaction over this matter and it is definitely going to affect IJM’s good reputation if nothing is done over this issue.
For further info, I suggest you visit the following blogspot to see for yourself the reaction of buyers over that kind of fencing.

http://apartment-penang.blogspot.com/2007/12/spring-condominium-penang.html

so guys & girls,
pls call and then write to yr representative pronto..!! else it'll be too late to do the necessary modification once they've fixed the surrounding area..

-ciplak @ C14-
May 28, 2008 at 4:53 PMAnonymous: All The Spring buyers, please call to IJM and complaint regarding the fence issue and send email to IJM as well. Please gather all our power and make the thing change.
May 28, 2008 at 4:53 PMAnonymous: please visit this site:
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2008/05/27/91.html
May 28, 2008 at 7:15 PMAnonymous: All, please buy the SPRING. Buy it eventhough it reaches RM350k for smallest, lowest floor, funniest floorplan and worst unit.

You may potentially know me later if you own a unit.

By the way, anyone wants penang properties transaction data? Each and every single sales and purchase record is there, from government.
May 28, 2008 at 9:18 PMAnonymous: Hi,

"By the way, anyone wants penang properties transaction data? Each and every single sales and purchase record is there, from government."

From which government unit do v get that and the location of d office?

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