The Oasis Condominium located at Gelugor, off Jalan Yeap Choy Ee in a residential neighbourhood with easy accessibility to Bayan Lepas, the mainland and Georgetown.
The development is well-served by numerous retail stores including Tesco and Queensbay, as well as hospitals, clinics, schools and University Sains Malaysia (USM). Nearby neighborhoods include Minden Heights, Taman Gelugor, Taman Brown, Taman Pekaka and University Place.
Property Project : The Oasis Condominium
Location : Gelugor, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
No. of Blocks : 3
Built-up Area : approx. 1,041 to 1,183 sq.ft.
Developer : Nusmetro Venture (P) Sdn Bhd
Facilities
24 hours security, CCTV, Wi-Fi, Ready centralized Astro point, Swimming Pool, Gym, Squash Court, Jacuzzi, Yoga Room, Courtyard, Barbeque Pit.
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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1505 Newer› Newest»Hello mr.Tan, whether u like it or i'm very sad to say that it's actually our grandfather's land infact it's our great granfather's land. Do you know y are there so much problem in this land. Firstly it's a TRUST LAND VESTED UNDER THE CROWN wherby the state govt is only a TRUSTEE for this land.They have no right to sell this land. Both the previous state n current state gove made that blunder for $$$$$$. Secondly have u seen the actual GRANT/ LAND TITTLE for this land ??? HA HA HA... Please check the cronologies and history at www.http//kgbuahpala.blohspot.com (twitter )for details. The state govts have been greedy and selfish and so u are... The real problem its not u or me , it's actually the Political Parties. Blaming each other for their gains.... Hope u get this right. WHY DO THEY HAVE TO OFFER RM.200,000.00 FOR THIS SQUATTERS????? WHY IS OUR CM CAN'T MAKE A DECISSION TO SLOVE THIS PROBLEM??????
Anyway good news is, state govt will stop this development. Villagers can stay back their houses. Then there will be LONG LONG PROLONG type of court cases.
To all buyers,
Don't waste any more time waiting. Get back the deposit from Nusmetro instantly.
I already got mine. Get a bank reject letter to take back the deposit
Good luck
Haha MSM
In fact, you are little bit wrong, I think the buyer should stay. There is very clear that if the project is not carry on, the buyer may get their 10% and additional interest on top of down payment. If the project carry on, definately it will delay, some of the buyer have signed the S&P beginning of last year, it will be 1.5 years delay. We have calculate the completion of the project from now versus the actula date the buyer should get base on S&P, there will 1.5 years interest on top of the housing price. Let say your apartment cost RM240000, base on S&P, developer have to pay 10% interest per anum if they delay the project. 1.5 years delay will cost developer (0.155 * cost of your aprtment) RM37200 for this buyer.
Our advise to buyer not to take what developer offer, i.e. Kitchen, renovation and etc, if the project is running, take the money compensation as per S&P. The money is more than enough to make your own renovation and you might not known when the project can be complete.
Just some word to the buyers, just relax and watching the movie, let the developer, state goverment and the villages settle the stuff. When reach the time, get your own compensation and we don't think the developer can run away since it is UMNO link company and not possible KOPERASI can close shop. Besides, the developer is in good position base on the court rules. Lim GE admistration really in trouble.
Aiya. Already told you all go and get the refund form 3-4 months ago from Nusmetro and get back you 10% asap. Still want to relax and watch the movie? Just treat it as bad investment with zero return, better than you put the money into stocks in last year and losing like hell now. There are many projects just completed, worth shopping around.
If the state still under BN, then should be easier lar. Bulldozer and police will come and remove the houses in days, all kampung pala residents will go to low cost flat. No need negotiation. Quick and easy.
For sure developer won't pay interest and reimburse whatever legal fees incurred to purchaser... Lucky if get back the full 10% if they don’t impose you administration charges or miscellaneous fees...
Hi
The topic become hotter, saw the news, http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/109281, Lim GE say ，“他们终于懂得区分谁是‘土地强盗’, but to what I'm thinking, Lim GE will be the 是‘土地强盗’. Why?
The developer/ koperasi have through the legal procedure to win the land via court case and base on the files declassified, we don't see there will be any wrong on the land transfer (what I mean in term on legal procedure). Koperasi have finish paying the money and they deserve to be the owner of the land. The funny thing is see http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2009/07/25/23.html, or http://www.nanyang.com/index.php?ch=8&pg=17&ac=982559
(以便发展商能在现有豆蔻村的发展计划中保留部份的土地继续让居民居住)? You can judge now who will be the land robber? Let think that you are in the position as developer or koperasi, I have pay all the money for the land, now you told me that I should give some of my land to the villages otherwise I cancel your project. What a super robber!!!!!! The same scenario someone can tell Lim GE, previously I have vote you, now you win the election, please give me your 30% salary every months since you are rich now, if you not to do so, I will make a trouble to you and your state(i.e. everyday I will take the rubbish or shit dump in front of your house). This behaviour not a robber then what will be?
He is CM but cannot behave like Gangster and even though as what he say to developer 他們也不能因此為所欲為, he must think for his own also 他也不能為所欲為 and against the court order ( what I mean is 他行使首長權力，指示檳島市政局不批准豆蔻村發展計劃的發展令). I'm sure what he doing will scare the investor, 出尔反尔.
I plead with all buyers to get their down payments back from the developer. Please, have some compassion & decency, do not buy into other peoples' pain & suffering. It is all bad karma & feng shui to begin with. I think the developer should change the condo name from "The Oasis" to "The Hell".
Here are the cons of buying an Oasis condo:
(1) 99 year lease hold.
(2) Project will be delayed for 5-10 years.
(3) If the developer wins & the project is built, the Penang state will not extend the 99 year lease. Guess what, your 300K condo will be worth only 100K. What a bad investment!
To All Buyers:
(1) You need to get your down payment back prior to the state & developer start suing each other.
(2) So, for the first thing on Monday - Head down to the developer's office and ask for a full refund.
(3) Repeat #2 until you get your money back.
What Lim GE announce yesterday, it is very clear that he is 投石问路, try to threaten the developer so that they can compromise with the deal. Some of the friend has told me, if I'm the developer, I will not response until 3rd August. This will make more worry for Lim GE administration as he don't know what I will do next. Lim GE will definitely open his last poker, once the date more and more approaching. At the same time, I will prepare some arrangement to all buyers that I will pay back 10% down payment + interest or remain as it and offer much better compensation to buyers since there will be further delay for the project. I will promise to buyers that the Condo will be worth for the time they are waiting. Since the project is delay, some plan will change that I will improve much more for the condo so that I can sell with much higher price to new buyer which able to compensate my loses. I'm willing to prepare a war with Lim GE administration and I think I will win the war on the less knowledge government.
For see Lim GE not a leader, he do not have direction, 举棋不定. The issues of Kampung buah pala previously is involve small portion of peoples and the developer, his decision (指示檳島市政局不批准豆蔻村發展計劃的發展令, 發展商絕對可以起訴州政府，不過，請別忘記這將會是一個很漫長的過程 ) then now will involve all penang residents! Why? The developer will sue PG state government once he stop the project, we are very high confidence PG government will lose the court bid. RM150 million will be paid from PG government in worst case, whose money? Our PG peoples money just to rescue the home for 400++ peoples and aware from other blogs that this peoples is quite greedy people where they want a better compensation i.e Banglo, 1 million etc!!!! Actually this money can be use for other purpose, i.e. contribution for non bumi schools, giving the rice for more than 5000++ peoples what he done last time and this only cost RM150K.
So disappoint to him, see http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/109281, (他接着强调，若发展商一意孤行，豆蔻村必将成为一块荒地), what he will bring to development and he willing to make 3 loses. (Developer, government and the Kampung Buah Pala villages). I know the importance of the developments and the capable of the government therefore my vote will definitely not going to DAP for next election although I'm not the super supporter for BN.
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ONCE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS ARE INITIATED BETWEEN THE PENANG STATE GOVERNMENT AND NUSMETRO VENTURE (P) SDN BHD, ALL THE DOWN PAYMENTS WILL BE FROZEN UNTIL THE CASE IS SETTLED.
PLEASE DO YOUR GOOD SELF AND YOUR FAMILY A FAVOR, GET YOUR MONIES BACK ON MONDAY.
OTHERWISE, YOUR MONIES WILL BE STUCKED FOR 5-10 YEARS WHILE THE LITIGATIONS ARE GOING ON.
KC
I agree with you not buy into other people pain and suffering. However, you must come into mind that the buyers also don't know the backgorund story. Getting back the money, will make more happy to the developers, which this can reduce the burden for compensation. They then can sold your unit to other buyers with much higher price once the project start. Yes, you can influence some of the buyers not to buy this project, but since this topic become hot, there will be free advertisement for OASIS, many of people now know this project, some of my clients eventhough some of it is coming from Singapore ask me about the status of project and they willing to purchase several units once the project is running.
By the way, you can tell me now in Penang, which project now not buy into other people pain and suffering. Let take Thean Teik development which happen several years ago, this eventhough involve the bleeding incident. Let take the case 3 years ago in Batu Ferringi and near Tanjung Bunga, the resident is being asking to out with 25K compensation.
鱼与熊掌的选择, development and taking care the weak and poor society. This is to exam the intelligence of the leader which can have 鱼与熊掌均可兼得.
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HERE IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO ON MONDAY MORNING
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(1) GET A LOAN REJECTION LETTER FROM YOUR BANKER. I AM SURE YOU CAN FIND A GOOD REASON TO BE REJECTED.
(2) ASK FOR A FULL REFUND FROM THE DEVELOPER NUSMETRO VENTURE (P) SDN BHD.
(3) DONATE PART OF YOUR REFUNDS TO CHARITIES.
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for me this issue is never take care by anyone.
it is when the tsunami come...then lots of people will scream and scold people.
at the begining it is a land issue... then had become the political issue. see who can help who.
i watch a movie story there is person had stolen one of it kidney and what is you feeling. Angry/Ignore. whatif this happen to you/ close friend.
Try settle this issue in legal ways
During that time year 2006 i was crazy about house this was my dream house it was nice.
I saw the proposal at PISA that time, very nice i definately will buy 1 units. I had other option such like D'plazza, Regancy Height, Palludium and pearl garden Including the project yet not launch by IJM and i made one of the choice that time. I did not see anyone of the buyer that step in and meet with YB. Together when we stand together we will be strong.
the message that i would to delivery.
hi all purchaser.
if this property is going to give u good return in 5 years time, then, don't cancel, stay put and watch the drama unfold. once past the Aug 1 deadline, it is point of no return... think very carefully. the developer may not pay u 10% if excced 36 months from S&P, and the quality finish might be questioned.
based on feng shui analysis, this project is going to be sui for next 10 years...and yet it is lease hold...can NEVER convert to FREE hold anymore due to this drama... i guaranteed, over my dead body this project is not going to get FREE hold Forever...
hi all buyer :
i) state government is not going to approve a single brick being laid until the developer solve the resident issue.. that means, some of the oasis compound or roa will be compromise.
ii) mic try to gain some political points by doing last attempt before 3-aug deadline. but i don't think they have money to pay the developer
i think this is the last project the developer from KL is going to build in Penang (if it can be builded). he developer will be black listed.
Thunder,
Quite a number of blogs have been very emotional, not only Oasis but many others.. people invest by "heart" but not their brain... when something turn personal or political, greed/fear take over... facts weighted less, skills required for tactical investment analysis thrown out of window, your kind opinions agaist mainstream turned worthless...
Let's get focus and find our next microsoft (or Bayswater) to invest. Do what you did best, back to fundamental.. MYOB, bcs long live the greater fool theory...
Hello Thunder
Below my comment is not against you but with our knowledge and my friends who are in legal sector for many years, we wonder why your comment is totally out of our mind (the developer will not pay you 10% if exceed 36 months from S&P).
Honestly, we never know there will be such a rules? As far as I know, once you have pay the down payment and sign S&P, there is not possible anymore for you to get refund from developer unless bank reject your loan approval.
What I see the case that the developer refund 10% down payment to some of buyers is something special arrangement from developer , which I think it is good as the developer don't want to make this buyer worried and he don't plan to run away. Base on legal suite and S&P, he can not to refund your 10%. I think he know that if those buyers continue, the compensation is suffer after 3 years from the date S&P you sign.
My suggestion that you can visit:-
http://www.kpkt.gov.my/artikel/perumahan/index.html and
http://www.kpkt.gov.my/artikel/perumahan/index1.html
Siri 5 : Tanggungjawab dan Peranan Pembeli and
Siri 6 : Cara Membuat Tuntutan
So Thunder, which legal document and what section you are refer to since I have no idea there will be such rule? Please inform me as I'm new to what you mention. I'm not accuse you are wrong but just worry I'm out to date.
By the way you are FengSui master woh, can you predict what will be our Malaysia economy for 2009 and 2010 as I plan to invest property/ share in Malaysia. Base on our analysis, we think there will be second market correction for Malaysia stock, just few months or half a year later. If you can give some tips for the feng sui especially Malaysia economy, then may be we have some idea what should we act.
By the way, this land sold to Koperasi as lease hold, it will never convert to free hold. The buyers when make a decision to purchase the property, he already aware that this is the case. Convert to free hold may be just a bonus to buyers, but in legal point of view, this is not possible, unless the state government or the developer is a rich guy.
Please don't humiliate the buyer and our intelligence without prepare a necessary homework.
Some post in http://blog.thestar.com.my/permalink.asp?id=25136
I agree also only the judiciary can decide how long a trial takes
'When LGE said he will ensure the suit takes a long, long time, it reflects arrogance because he is trying to say he can temper with the judiciary. Only the judiciary can decide how long a trial takes. Is there no more judicial freedom in Penang, the very institution DAP/PR says must be 'totally free'
Shame on you Lim GE.
Sorry, I contradict myself for commenting here..
1. Clause 26.(2), developer obligated to deliver VP with 36 mths or else must pay 10% per annum liquidated damages on daily basis. If they drag long enough (>1 yrs), developer deem to pay purchaser more than what they paid... Warning, typical developer would rather declare bankruptcy or flight than paying these huge amount.
2. Once, I personally viewed a letter from a developer (in Seberang Perai) refund their purchasers every payment made (no refund on legal fees or lawyer fee etc) bcs the developer decided to cancel the project. Purchasers unhappy, but it takes a huge sum to bring the case to court and win, buyers decide to walk away with the $$. Timing is of the essence.
3. Something happened due to long practiced corruption and power abuse in GLC, it doesn't mean these bull shit should be continued. It takes lots of gut to correct the mistakes. Those not blinded by greed over this issue would give two thumbs up for PR/LGE decision. Off course, victim have every right to say otherwise. POLITICIZE THINGS WILL ONLY MUDDLE THE SITUATION.
4. KC may have good advice, but I afraid it is a bit too late for purchasers to get yourself loose at this point of time. As some may have suggested, just watch the whole tragedy unfold.
5. Feng shui... leave it to Thunder...
BN is the law. Nusmetro belonged to BN. Two thumbs up for PR/LGE. The only decision for the buyers to make is to go to Nusmetro on Monday and get the refund ASAP. It must be crazy to think that the Oasis is still a good investment 3 years down the road.
There are so many completed apartments else where, no risk.
Dear all,
Human being never satisfied.
Talk is easy, do is another matter.
Want to do or don;t want to do will get boombard by people.
Pity the politicians that have to help previous one to clear the mess.
Anyway, if the people vote them to become the leader, then should let them do it. If bad then don't vote next round. Life is full of choices. :) Political balance is a must.
Anyway do take back the deposit if possible. I am sure everyone that afford to buy a pigeon hole at few hundred Ks can make more money other than hunger for the interest.
PEACE!
After see this article
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2009/07/28/25.html, I really cannot understand, the villages already lose the court case, at the moment, in terms of law, they are squatters. Court have made a judge that single cents is not neccessary to pay to the villages. I think this is not so good in terms of humanity. If the developer willing to pay 1 apartment with 75K, they should laugh liau. Now, want peoples land plus double storey house pula. What the world!!!!!
That means in the future all squatters in Penang must get a double storey house, otherwise they will go and make noise in front of Lim's office then they will get one, a semi D may be:-) DAP don't have principle, they simple compromise to please the squatters for their votes, and don't care of the bad example they've set for the future.
I did vote for DAP in the last election, regret. I dedifinitely won't vote for them in the next election.
Godwin,
Are you going to vote BN for selling the other lands with cheaper price to the developer again?
I think this is mistake from last gov.. they sell that land so cheap and that money also gone to who pocket.. now the ppl there still want pretend their squarters. dev already agreed to give them rm200k follow what they wish but now they want rm1mil.. I think not worth it to follow this squarters ppl coz that land already not under theirs.. I know what they feel when come up this prob but at least the dev already agreed to give them new place and some money.. They must thans god, not fight until they get nothing.. ppl surrounding also get scared bcoz of this case.. Now all ppl surrounding have no freedom.. Police also always there to check around..
Dear property :
i think u still go by law..good base to start with. if every malaysian abide by law, there wont be court case already you see...
1. 10% compensation for deliver > 36 months. by right, the developer should do that. but most of the time, u need to go thru a lot of hassle to get that. and most of the time the developer will ask for lower compensation and settlement....this u cant study in law book...
u need to go thru by experience.
2. lease hold land can get free hold. yes. did u read penang state government invitation for lease hold property to surrender title to the state, pay the correct premium, he will convert to free hold. if the landed property can be done, i don't think condo like Oasis can get Freehold....again. u need some experience to understand the concept....people can over ride the law...the law is meant to be borken with legal way and win win spirit.
3. yeah, i know some fenshui. property and share malaysia 2009-2010 would be superb. but be weary of H1N1 -vaccines shortage issue. i just sold my genting shares while the share is hot. my advice....go for dividend share.U switch to 2nd gear stock investing strategy while the street man still engage first gear and to get hot...
I SENSED BIG TROUBLE BREWING, BETTER GET YOUR MONEY BACK TODAY!
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Cooperative deems Penang govt action on Buah Pala ‘a threat’
PENANG, July 27 – The Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Negeri Pulau Pinang Bhd, owner of the 2.6ha disputed land in Kampung Buah Pala, Gelugor has regarded the state government’s move to withdraw approval for the development plan for the site as a threat.
Its chairman Abdul Razak Mansor said the cooperative would not succumb to the threat and would find ways to go ahead with its plan to develop the land in the interest of its members.
He said the Federal Court’s decision that the land belonged to the cooperative remained and all quarters should respect that.
When contacted by Bernama here, he added that the cooperative also did not agree with any move by the developer Nusmetro Ventures (P) Sdn Bhd to compromise with the state government and at this point, its (cooperative) stand on the issue remained firm.
“If necessary, we will apply for contempt of court proceeding against any party which tries to stop us from developing the land which we had legally acquired and our action will take into consideration what happens after Aug 2,” he said.
Abdul Razak said it was difficult for the cooperative to give up its plan to develop the land as its more than 3,500 members had waited long to benefit from their investment.
As a cooperative which was established 84 years ago, he said, the development project in Kampung Buah Pala was the cooperative’s long-awaited first project.
“I cannot simply surrender the land to another party without the consent of our members and any decision on this would have to be made at our annual general meeting,” he said.
Abdul Razak also said that the cooperative was not interested in the MIC’s move to take back the land by paying a premium of RM3.2 million to the state government.
He also said he would not meet Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng to discuss ways to solve the land issue even if he was invited to the discussion. – Bernama
Vista, four = the 1st day they exhibit this project at Pisa. Heard of them long ago. Nevertheless, legally the contract between the buyer and the developer starts from the day 1st deposit is paid. Ask your lawyer.....and time is the essence for completion of the project. Whatever reasons given, any delay in delivery will not be given waiver for LAD. Check with the housing ministry pls.... many precedence awarded fair compensation by the court. Some unethical developer even brought up the Highland Tower as an excuse when they are late saying that the stop work affect them. This is also 'BUANG' by the court and developer paid in full. Good luck
The problem is if the judgment will be implemented or not?
The developer could always declared bankrupt. What can the buyer do about it? If the developer still want to do business, situation will be better for the buyers because developer will negotiate compensation with the buyers.
Hi all :
we have many party involved.
i) for non purchaser - we will watch the news 03-Aug.
ii) for purchaser, $$ down the lane for bad investment decision.
iii) for kampung buah pala resident -try to fight for better compensation, to the extend they want to preserve the land by bringing up to unesco heritage status.
iv) for kooperasi -they want the land to be develop fast. don't want to discuss further
v) MIC Samy Vellu - try to pour hot water to trigger some turbulence....
vi) State government -cannot do anything but try to make developer compromise.
too much drama already....
base on feng shui prediction : kampung buah pala will be demolished midnite 00:00 3-Aug. polis and FRU called in to oversee this. Resident have to move to the "flat" the developer provide....the poor and under priviledge will continue to be like that...can't help much...
i suggest lim guan eng should give the affected resident the low cost house purchase priviledge....
The fiasco is only caused by one thing - GREED. All involved are so greedy that they will try anything possible to get as much $$$ as possible. Even to sacrify many others. I definitely do not agree state government to compensate the residents. Let's Nusmetro and the Koperasi to compensate because they already taken some profit by buying the land at cheap price.
hi BK :
malaysia law protect legitimate land owner as well as squatters. during conflict of interest, normally the poor and underpriviledge will lose out because they are not the land owner....
how to protect the poor and underpriviledge.
MIC come into picture providing 3.2Millions aids. I suggest penang state government take this money and allocate some state land near Bukit Jambul to settle them...that i would call win win situation.
of course the state government can compel Nusmetro to build some building as subsidies to this underpriviledge squatters and the developer don't need to compensate them anything else as they already find their new home. the bukit jambul greenary can be good place for the cow farm to continue.
State to meet Kg Buah Pala residents on Saturday
PENANG, July 29 — The state government will meet residents of Kampung Buah Pala on Saturday to find a solution to the land problem.
The meeting at Kompleks Tun Abdul Razak (Komtar) at 2.30pm will be attended by Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng and state Exco members, said Penang Deputy Chief Minister II P. Ramasamy.
“We will find a solution to the problem and hope to discuss it with residents,” he told reporters here today.
The state government would also present a proposal by Kampung Buah Pala project developer Nusmetro Ventures (P) Sdn Bhd.
“We hope to receive the draft proposal today or tomorrow so that we can study it,” he said.
Ramasamy however said that the meeting on Saturday will not involve the project developer.
Controversy erupted when the state government sold the 2.6 hectare land to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd which later appointed Nusmetro Ventures as project developer.
Nusmetro Ventures then obtained a court order demanding Kampung Buah Pala residents to vacate the land by August 3.
Ramasamy said if the proposal was not acceptable to residents, the state government would withdraw its approval for a housing project.
On the statement by MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu that the party was willing to pay RM3.2mil to settle the issue, he said it has to be discussed with the developer and koperasi as the land did not belong to the state government.
“If MIC wants to settle the issue by buying the Kampung Buah Pala land, they can talk to the developer and koperasi but RM3.2mil will not be enough as the price has since increased to about RM150mil,” he said. – Bernama
Anyone care to comment on why the 2.6 hectare lease hold land is worth RM150M per Ramasamy?
2.6 hectare
6.42 acre
279,862 sf
RM 536 per sf for lease hold land in Gelugor???
hi KC :
it is political trap u see....Ramasamy try to setup Samy vellu and the more Samy vellu debate, the more weakness the previous BN government is going to be exposed.
since MIC already make a police report to say that the land cost is selling too cheap to koorperasi...if the MACC step in, then the project will be frozen...but i guess this won't happen.....because i think u already know why.
Looks like LGE and his men will have to hold their assembly meeting at Kg Buah Pala on Aug 3 to prevent any demolition. No development they criticise, with development they also criticise. Let me quote Lao Tzu " A leader is best when people barely know that he exists. Not so good when people obey and accliam him. Worst when they despise him. Fail to honour people; they will fail to honour you. But when a good leader, who talks little, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, hey will all say, 'we did this ourselves'"
KC,
The 150m is not solely the land cost....but is the potential cost to be incurred in order to return the land the the villagers.
Hi all :
would like to make some poems for kampung buah pala...
Kampung buah pala...my village where cow wonders and kids loitering in the greenary with comfort. Aug 03 will be your last day...try to smell the air while you can and memorize the scenary with all your might...because; the bulldozer is going to put you to sleep, forever...rest in peace, rest in peace...Kampung buah pala, you are the mirror to distinguish the rich and the poor, the powerful and the powerless...some squatters can get free land just like that, while you have to give way for the rich to make money...and you cannot fight back because you are poor...
I got this from anilnetto.com
Kg Buah Pala villagers to move to adjacent site?
In a critical meeting today with Lim Guan Eng, Kampung Buah Pala residents have agreed to consider moving their village as an intact heritage community to an adjacent area…
… PENDING a detailed proposal from the developer, Himanshu Bhatt of theSun reports.
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Attention: Last call to condo purchasers
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
FIRST THING ON MONDAY MORNING, GO GET A FULL REFUND FROM THE DEVELOPER NUSMETRO VENTURE (P) SDN BHD. I GOT MINE, YOU SHOULD GET YOURS BEFORE HELL BREAK LOSE IN KAMPUNG BUAH PALAH.
hi all :
this is the land of disupute....bad fengshui
already....no point to buy because the price won't increase as the developer will have bad reputation if it demolish house forecefully if not the developer will not be able to deliver vacant possession in time....cost cutting effort will be aggressive in order to recover the cost of delay and cost of building extra 2-story terrace/community hall and cost of everything......
Hi KC and Thunder,
Not sure are you from same band?One playing guitar one playing drum...^^
How much do you value the Kg Buah Pala land? Penang CM Lim GE (self-made valuer) values it at more than RM100 million. MIC values it at RM3.2 million. But with all these problems, troubles and the state government seemingly helpless to address the vigilantes there, the actual value of the land is actually ZERO. Without prejudice, the former administration is trying to add value to the property and that of the people living there but the fact has been twisted by the so called champions of the poor. Remember the saying of the old Chinese master, Lao Tzu, “The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step”. I hope the people will understand this quote or remain behind forever in their progress.
Hi Albert,
I would like to add value to your property too. Please transfer your property titles to me. Remember the saying of the old Chinese master, Lao Tzu, “The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step”. I hope your will understand this quote or remain behind forever in your progress.
Developers offer terraces houses to Kg Buah Pala villagers
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PENANG, Aug 5 - Villagers in Kampung Buah Pala, facing eviction, have been offered a terrace house each by the developer Nusmetro Ventures (P) Sdn Bhd on the 2.6ha plot of land slated for development.
Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng said the offer was made by the developer during a discussion with the villagers, state government and developer, last night.
"After deliberating, the developer agreed to offer a terrace house each to the affected families. However, the villagers who did not give an immediate answer have asked until Friday to make a decision," he told reporters after the meeting held at his office in Komtar last night.
Lim who did not elaborate on the details of the offer, said he hoped the villagers would accept the offer to resolve the issue.
Meanwhile, Kampung Buah Pala Residents Association assistant secretary C. Tharmaraj said the villagers would hold a meeting before making a decision on the developer's offer.
However, he said the villagers were not happy with the verbal offer as there was nothing concrete, like a plan or design of the offered houses.
"We were informed that the house will be a single storey terrace house with a built up area of 1,400sq ft in the same area. The houses are expected to be completed in two years but in the mean time the villagers will have to rent houses elsewhere on their own expenses," he said.
The houses of 23 families residing at the village, known as Penang's 'High Chaparral' was supposed to have been demolished yesterday but was postponed, pending the outcome of the meeting today. Nusmetro Ventures had set Friday as the new deadline for the villagers to move out of their houses. - Bernama
Terrace houses only???
You are kidding... The squatters demanded 3000sf bungalows with heated swimming pool.
Hello Thunder, I think before the developers demolish Kampung buah Pala, I should demolish your feng shui signboard. You have say base on your feng shui prediction, "kampung buah pala will be demolished midnite 00:00 3-Aug. polis and FRU called in to oversee thi", but until today 5-August, still nothing happen on Kampung Buah Pala. In this case, how I'm going to trust you on your prediction for Malaysia economy.
Back to main topic, initially some of new papers, developers, blogs, friends have say that the Indian peoples is greedy, I'm not so trust because I saw some old ladies which beg the help from state government, tears and etc, after see this news http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2009/08/05/4.html, I fully agree some of the villages in there is very very greedy, and those peoples own the power for negotiation and represent the villages. Whattttttt theee worldddddddd!!!!!!!!! Squatters get the double story house, with 1200sqf for each floor, double story makes 2400sqf + 200sqf, total build up area 2600sqf. Some more this is not enough, they want 3000 sqf + Kg Tersusun with the own land.......WHATTTTTT? What they want is a banglo, the value for this house once complete at least reach 1 million. See so greedy for these peoples!!!!!
If these peoples hold what they always say to all of the world, we defend our land, and fight untill end, I will salute to them. Now shouting so loud, all the world are helping them, and finally what they get is very very very impressive compensation even though they are squatters. Now, I despise them. Look very down to some of these peoples. Greedy will now to be representing for these peoples. Look for other cases, i.e. in Bukit Mertajam, the Chinese villages that need to vacate their house only being pay for 15K. What the world!!!!!!
Lim GE, if you make this case happen, you must promise in future, you must do the same for all peoples as well. If not, you should step down. Useless CM!!!!!!!
I think due to the squatters have strong support for example Hindraf and etc, useless state government and Lim GE administration have to compromise for what they request. I never see so weak this kind of government. For the buyers (most of them is Chinese), I believe in this situation is the most hurting one, not only need to stay with the greedy and violence peoples in future, at the same time for sure they will not get the house in time. I suggest, the buyers especially the Chinese must form CHINDRAF to fight back and protect the right for Chinese. HINDRAF is mainly protect Indians and that is not possible no protection for Chinese. Since Lim GE is perfidy and sold out the right for Chinese for some of his political reason, CHINDRAF will be the good idea to protect the right of Chinese. I'm not joking; still remember, in Perai, Lim GE order to demolish the temple due to our voice is too quiet, if we are louder like HINDRAF, do you think LIM GE able to do so????????
Make yourself clear, next vote what you should select, for me no DAP, no Gerakan, no MIC ( since in Kampung Buah Pala case, I can see how Gerakan youth and MIC behave (two head snake)（两头蛇）, approve the project and prevent demolition for own political futures).
Finally, once again new words for some of the Kampung Buah Pala villages, Greedy!!!! New words for Lim GE and his administration, (东亚病夫+ 欺善怕恶)，MIC and Gerakan youth （两头蛇).
To Oasis buyers,
I know I should not post political drama is this forum, may be one or two words I can share with you all.
My Singapore clients who will be possible the future buyer for OASIS, have decided to pull back if the squatters will live in there as per proposal. His concern is to live besides with this kind of peoples( with politic background, violence and etc), you may not known what will be your fake in future. If you make an offend to them, you may get trouble without any help as you know they are supported by 'HINDRAF', You know typical Chinese is 个扫门前归，一盘散沙, therefore no point to take risk.
The concern for existing buyers, whether you should pull back or not? The answer will be depend on this Friday. If the offer from developers is accept by the villagers, then they will be your neighbour in future. If you think you are not able to stay with these peoples, please pull back, I believe developers is welcome you to do so. If you think you are able to tolerate with these peoples and you plan to drink fresh milk, you can continue with the project and I believe this project will be able to complete with delay at least 1.5 years. Remind and remind, don't take any offer and sign any document from developers after you have sign the S&P. According to S&P and akta perumahan, developer for sure need to pay you with 10% interests, and please refer to your lawyer if there will be new offer or document from developers. As I say before if your condo costs RM240K + Car park RM 20K, interests for RM260K in 1.5 years is (Original price * 0.155)RM40.3K. The calculation is daily basic according to akta perumahan. Some offer from developers may not worth as what you should get in S&P.
If the villages not to accept the offer, my suggestion to buyers is not necessary to pull out from this project. I don't think the squatters can win the court case in federal court to against the decision for appeal court (not to demolish their house), since the land is not belong to them and this even though agree by Lim GE. During that time, the greedy peoples have no choice but may be migrate to other adjacent land or accept the offer for RM75K apartment or getting RM90K cash.
If delay happen, u can claim 10% just another 1.5 years further. Although some one in the blog say Nusmetro can bankrupt but Koperasi not possible bankrupt. Since Koperasi will be one of the party who sign your S&P as well, you can claim your $$$ from Koperasi. If Koperasi bankrupt, government servant will lose all their money in the investment and definitely will protest and against Lim GE i.e. not to follow his order and etc, therefore I don't think Lim GE will allow this to be happen.
hi property :
i think you are little bit agitated lately.
just hope that you can cool down a little bit.
the fengshui prediction is based on forecast...i admit that i am wrong on the date. but NEVER wrong on the event. if Friday they don't demolish the kampung, u can call me what you want.
hi property :
i suggest you exercise cautious in your post and not to humiliate the kampung folks. Some is really poor and have no roof over their head after their house got demolish ok ? they didn't choose to undergo this. if you are one of the resident there, what will u think then ?
be considerate. base on my feng shui prediction your age must be less than < 30 to have this kind of behaviour. if you are > 30 and still behave like this...may god bless you and u can go home everyday in one piece.
I dont know why the developer so stupid....If I was the developer,I should propose to build a 5 -storey flat with 600 sf area/unit.60 units.then can settle for 60 households.
1)12 unit/floor x 600sf = 7200sf ,If take another 10,000 sf to build their private carpark,total area needed still smaller then current proposal.If still not satusfy,another 5000sf community hall also able to provide to them.haha
Versus
2)24 terrace x 1400 sf = 33600 sf (somemore not able to fill with 60 households)
Win-Win situation.
If most of the buyers read this blog, I think most of them will withdraw. I think most of them just read newspaper and wait, and hope the residents will move out willingly. With all this recent fiasco, the best option is to withdraw from Oasis, there are many recently completed properties looking for buyers now.
If you are investor, why take this risk? If you are buying for own stay, why take this risk? The risk for owning Oasis is simply too high. And the price is not cheap at all for this location.
I think 24 terrace houses were the best solution so far. Penang government and developer did their job. Residents deserve no compensations by law even though they have a special historical background. This is a win-win solution. Everything should ended here.
Hello Thunder
I humiliate the villages? Yes you are partially right, I humiliate the greedy villagers one, but I sympathy the older, innocent, kind and those who are exploited by the greedy one. Can you see one of my post I say "I think this is not so good in terms of humanity" if developer demolish their house without paying them any compensation. In my previous post I say "some" of the villages is greedy, "Look ver very down to "some" of these peoples. If you not agree, read the post again.
See the new http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2009/08/05/146.html, 24 families want 41 houses. If they have 41 really families and they able to live in 24 houses previously and some more the house as per what you say some of it is no roof, now the 24 double story houses for sure able to feed the 41 families than before. As what I heard, some of them is really no doubt greedy, they import some of their cousin, relatives from Selangor and elsewhere to stay temporary in villages so that they can claim the compensation from developers.
See the news "要求槟州政府将一块毗邻占地面积2.4依格的政府地转卖给豆蔻村发展商，要求发展商在该地段上为村民建造甘榜屋" and
"豆蔻村的其中21家村民是在周三晚上8时许于村内召开的紧急会议上一致决定拒绝发展商提出的双层排屋献议" and
"我们的要求是槟州政府卖地给发展商，发展商必须在每个地段上建屋给村民，所涉及的平地面积至多应是4千平方尺"
If some these peoples are not greedy than what will it be? If they accept the original offer, I'm still not so look down to them. However, not accept the offer, but want much more better offer. This make me so hot and despise them.
Imagine alot of peoples including the buyers in here have working so hard so that they can own their first apartment. I believe some of the buyers in here also dream for terrace house as well but the fact is not possible. See, some of these villages, I don't think in their live they have spend alot of effort, now they have opportunity to own the gift" like winning TOTO or DA MA CHAI", and they don't know how to appreciate and 感恩. In Penang, there will be so much unlucky and poor one, some of the villages may not have the same fake like the folks in there, get zero or maximum 15K compensation. So how do you rate for this unlucky one? If those greedy villagers don't know how to value their gift, then they deserve 自食其果.
hi property:
now i understand your point. you are despicing the bad apples from the kampung.
I pity the villager for their ignorant. probably there is some MIC figther who give them other plan from 3.2millions pledge by MIC samy vellu. so if they got nothing, the MIC already identified the land may be from seberang perai for them to settle down...they just want to work with MIC to embarrass the pakatan government..... RM3.2 millions are a lot..... if i am lim guan eng, i will let the developer tear it down and identify the land in batu kawan for MIC to use the 3.2millions to settle the resident.....
So now what the status of this case? Now the dev agree to fullfit villagers demand?
hi nelly :
Saturday the buah pala will be demolished.
the new oasis apartment will change a little bit....may be the buah pala folks can use your facility as they stay just a stone throw away...and occasionally you will see cow dung nearby...hee hee just kidding..
Will the developer only build the 24 houses of terrace house or they will also build more and sell to others? I am just thinking who dare to stay and become the neighbour of these families....greedy and 野蛮.
r they going to build the 24 houses inside the compound of Oasis?
That area will be damn jem lor.. I think this villages just want to play around with gov and politic.. They just ignore the cow go around the road, dung every where and bad smell around there.. This indian dont know how to clean their place? If like that just give them a place at balik pulau area better for them..Very scared to passby kampg buah pala coz a few indian guys will sit there their face like want to eat u lor...
dear pang :
i don't think it is a good idea to relocate them to balik pulau. can you please do some simple experiment of putting some red ant in the black end territories,and observe what happens.
then you let us know whether you still want to propose this.
They are too greedy !!
豆蔻村每户索350万 冠英：太过份！
二零零九年八月七日 晚上六时二十五分
（槟城7日讯）槟州首席部长林冠英形容豆蔻村居民要求每一户350万令吉的赔偿为“太过份”及也是“唯恐天下不乱”！
村民若保持强硬 最终将一无所有
他认为，如果村民保持强硬态度，最终他们将是一无所有，失去一切，成为输家。
他说，该村村民必须讲道理，如果他们继续提出过份的要求，他们除了将失去栖身之处外，也将失去很多公众人士的支持。
他指出，很明显的，一些人士利用整个情况来达到目的，但村民应该运用理性的思维，与尝试协助他们的民联政府合作，而不是被某一些人利用，继续与“夺取”他们土地，并把他们视为非法居民者合作。
他促请村民在原则上接受及同意发展商提出的献议，其它的细节过后才进行讨论，这包括他们需要迁移的时间在内，因为豆蔻村事件在拖延多时之后仍未获得解决。
他强调，由于豆蔻村事件的情况特别，即村民在该村居住已超过100年，所以州政府才设法为他们争取到大马历史上最好的赔偿，而如果他们继续被不负责任者利用，州政府已“无计可施”。
“即使村民每天入禀法庭及示威，是否他们就可以获得有法律保障地契的房屋？”
“别有居心者是希望看到豆蔻村被拆毁，以便可以破坏民联政府。”
他说，现在州政府是献议为村民提供一间有法律保障地契的双层排屋，不像前朝国阵政府所给予他们的是“零”，并且还把他们当作是非法居民，根本没有权力可以拿到合法的地契，以及也完全没有任何的保障。
他是于今日在主持2009年大马全国资讯通讯协会区域性研讨会开幕过后，在一项新闻发布会上，受记者询问有关豆蔻村事件时，如此指出。
豆蔻村居民昨日在一项新闻发布会上表示，每一户人家居住的土地价值350万，所以拒绝价值60万双层排屋的献议。
Where our feng shui master?
Hello ShitOng
Who is Feng Shui Master? Do u mean Thunder? He have miss 2 times liau and he give a comment on previous post that " if Friday they don't demolish the kampung, u can call me what you want". However untill today (Saturday), no demolition happen on kampung buah pala.
So I doubt who are you mean for the feng shui master?
Yes, I mean Thunder, he over confident he2.
hi property :
ok. i give up. i retire. you can tear down my signboard already and i will not predict anymore in this blog. perhaps i cannot use fengshui to predict the "indian" culture. should start to learn vasatsu. U win.
hi pang :
hi pang , have you tried out putting the red ant in the black ant hive ? what is the results of your experiment, can you conclude and let us know whether you still want to hold your previous recommendation ?
They are very trouble and greedy 1. I had a tenant before, when I gave notice and asked him to move out, then he gave me a lots of excuses and dragging my time. It's almost half year only moved out. Not only this, he is also greedy. He just paid 1 month deposit but he argue with me said that he gave me 2 months deposit.
So from now on, I won't rent my house to indian anymore!
hi all :
the bull doser is in. 1 house gone as per my friend...pls follow up on malaysia kini.
1058: One woman in her fifties has fainted and is now lying on a table. The older folks in the village look tired and weary. Another woman, Mahadevi, 51, who had just undergone a spinal operation recently, has been shoved.
The developer, lawyers and others are in one of the houses. TNB personnel are also believed to be at the scene.
1046: Some of the villagers say that the bailiff has given them 15 minutes to leave, according to one source. A lot of shouting going on.
Another source reports the same thing, adding that the villagers are chanting, “Hidup Kampung Buah Pala! Samseng keluar!”
1029: A court bailiff sticks a demolition order on one of the houses.
A commotion breaks out as village reps point out any action today would be in contempt of court as the Federal Court is due to hear their application for revision on 18 August.
Hi thunder,
Any prob with u?? If u want to pretend this indian go ahead no body border.. for me this indian over acting and very greedy..!! gov already said this indian greedy and if they still want to ask more they will get nothing! If that land belong to me sure i wont fullfit their crazy wish.. That land not belong to them n not under their name or their great2 grandfather although they stay there 100years.
hi pang :
cannot said like that lah. they are human, and most of them follower. if they are instigated by lawyer/political party who used this opportunity to extort more money ? why not ? it is all negotiation..............but never negotiate with indian, because they are born lawyer. you never win. looks at all criminal lawyers..they are indian. No chinese/malay can compete. they are good in verbal arguing, and negotiation. i admire them because they can twist tongue faster than you. and they are also good in Drama and sandriwara because i believe they have rich culture like chinese...
There is only one way to defeat the villager. "bulldozer". the developer is using the right approach.
But Thunder,
I dont like their way coz if that land under their name or their association its ok if they want to fight until they get what they want but this case the land is under gov name so gov already sold to somebody that mean the owner have power to ask them move out but owner laso give them new house and poket money but this indians still want to fight for their land THAT IS NOT THEIR LAND! I saw in newspaper and tv news, i feel like this indian to much! 1st they fight want each family get rm200k the dev agreed to gave but they change they want rm1million each family... and then they ask a new house, dev agreed to built double storey teres for them price around rm600k but they want bunglow type at least price rm3.5million..and extra land for them to do their activity and place their cows.. They are crazy!! and To much!! I wish they will get nothing if they still want to fight for crazy and over acting things!
Thunder, if you are the owner of that land and the same thing you are facing what you will do?? follow their wish until you get suffer and over your budget?
You all can see from here Indian or Malay, they can cooperate until they get what they want how about Chinese? Debate each other from what we can see in this blog. Hope in future we can cooperate among ourself.
shitong :
chinese don't like to be like that. they are busy busy all day...too busy for kids schooling, earn money.....busy and occupied with our daily life...too tired to participate in this "primitive" gang-up to resist changes thing.
chinese looks for other alternative when there is a crash a head because they don't like to use egg to hit the stone....smarter breed.
Hi shitong :
most of the chinese is not living at the brink of poverty. most of the chinse haven't experienced the taste of hard core poor...once you belongs to this group, where u have nothing to loose...you will be like kampung buah pala resident. this is human nature.
I think this is a good one for Malaysian Chinese to read...................and there's some truth in this....
This is so true about us Malaysian Chinese in general. We were always a lot more concerned with our own 'rice bowl' than anything or anyone
else for that matter. When things get tough, like this writer said,'we migrate, money talks'. Even now, many parents are quietly telling their children to study hard and migrate.
I remembered being a 15-year old girl in a convent school studying about the Malayan Union in a History class and having a Chinese
teacher who told us in between the lines that honestly, if our grandparents etc had supported the British when they wanted to give equal rights to everyone, we wouldn't be in this situation we currently find ourselves now.
But no, our grandparents were too busy 'minding their own business' to care about politics, not realising that politicians are really the
ones who decide where their 'next bowl of rice' were coming from. This is what happens from having a 'tidak apa attitude' most of the times.
In the end, Malayan Union was abolished and UMNO was formed and given the 'rights' to
pretty much form the nation the way it is today with special privileges given to the Malays.
I also have to say I saw these Malays who participated in the Bersih Rally. I was on my way to church that Saturday when the rally was
held. It had been pouring like crazy in KL that afternoon and many of them were in the LRT I was on. Damn! Was I proud of them, for having
the guts to stand up against their own race for a cause they believed in?
Either we participate in the whole political process and decide how we want the future to be for us and the future generation or others will
decide for us and the option to choose will therefore then be taken away from us, and then, we'll have no one to blame but ourselves for
choosing to keep silence.
MY TAKE - RIGHT HERE FROM KUALA LUMPUR , DEC 20TH, 2007
THE CHINESE, THEIR HOUSES HAVE NO WINDOWS
I looked out the window. And I saw.
Thousands and thousands of Malays in the Bersih Rally. They were fighting their own kind for a cause they believed in. And they risk being ostracized by their Muslim brothers. And they risk much.
I looked out the window. And I saw.
Thousands and thousands of Indians holding the picture of Gandhi in the streets. All were teargassed and many beaten with batons. At Batu
Caves, they were locked in, pumped with tear gas and sprayed with chemical water.
80 are awaiting trial. 31 are charged for attempted murder of a policeman who attacked them. All their leaders are under ISA. The one
that got away fled the country.
I looked out the window. And I saw.
Thousands and thousands of Chinese closing their doors. Minding their own business. Watching the soap operas. Playing mahjong. Going to the gym. Planning for holidays. Eating bah kuet teh. Enrolling their children in private schools. Going for line dancing. Changing to a bigger car. Perming their hair brown. Going to the movies. Shopping.
The Chinese. They don't look out the window.
Their houses. Have no windows.
It is because of 3 generations of 'keeping quiet' that we are in a political quagmire of sorts today. My story may not be the same for
others, but it is no doubt a story of 3 generations of political oblivion - a saga of unremitting circumstances that has 'trained' us
to look the other way - to economic wealth, education and religion. Politics became a 'dirty word' in our home; as a Chinese we should
disengage ourselves completely from this 'unproductive' activity.
to be continue......
This is my story.
My grandfather took a ship to join the gold rush in San Francisco around the turn of the last century. Halfway on a Chinese junk, he got
sea-sick, so he jumped ship at Singapore . Traveling up the hinterland, he focused on survival. Hungry from famine in Southern
China , he vowed never to be hungry again. Politics was the last thing on his mind. Keeping his belly filled was his only priority. It was an obsession that dictated everything he
did.
My father worked for the British. One day, forced by the Japanese to do 'national service', he was selected to look after food supplies. The family was starving during the war, so he stole rice under his care and hid them in sweet potatoes when he cooked rice. Our neighbors always thought we were eating sweet potatoes we grew on the fringes of the jungle, when in actual fact, we always had rice. (As a matter of fact, it is more nutritious to eat sweet potatoes than rice). Sweet potatoes, the red variety, has carotenes-vitamin A precursors-other nutrients & fibre. Polished rice has mainly carbohydrate.
My grandmother sews clothes for the women day and night to survive and got paid in Japanese currency. When the war was over, these Japanese
notes - which were unnumbered - became valueless. The family again struggled to bring food on the table. It was a litany of hunger and
fear in our house.
When it came to my generation, my father thought education was the passport to economic freedom for us. He refused for us to be a
contractor like him and forced us to study.. In university, he forbade me to get involved in politics. He went as far as to refuse me to
study law so that I would not get involved in politics. I was forced to study a course I did not like because he wanted me to be a banker.
Needless to say, I made the same mistake when it came to my children. I told them also the 'passport to heaven' was also to study. But I
refused to dictate what they should study but instead asked them to study what they liked. I ensured they got the best education. I also
reminded everyone that they do not talk about politics on the dinner table.
My story is not uncommon; such is the struggle and saga common to thousands of Malaysian homes. We are cajoled by our parents to look at
bread and butter issues. We are told that politics are not for us. We are told that our 'houses have no windows', so mind your own business and close the door. We are told that if this country is not good enough, you must get a good education and emigrate.
The Chinese? We are told this is not our home. We have no home. We are the Jews of the East. When trouble starts, we ought to look the other
way. If it gets worse, we emigrate. Money talks. So long we have money, some country will take us.
100 years of ignorance. Is it blissful? No. It is tragic.
May be you are the following generation after this and so on. Good luck.
ShitOng,
This blog is for Oasis Condo comments NOT your great2 grandfather story blog.. Please open your eyes! This blog not suitable for you to defence chinese and said bad about indians or malays.. In Malaysia all hav their own way so no one is perfect, if you read history you sure know if malays prime minister not allow your great2 grandfather to come in to Tanah Melayu sure know your generation also just in China only...So bcafull with your WORDS!
Hi thunder,
How the case in kampg buah pala? That day i saw alot of indians, polis and fru at kampg buah pala..
If you are from this specific DNA or blood than you'll understand it unless you are not in this group. Different DNA different thinking.
Dont Judge from wat u hear from people outside buah pala, i m sitting right in the middle of the village and write on www.cryingvoices.webs.com
BUYERS! WATCHOUT! all your money will go to drain, this land is not suitable for High Rise Building!! and the developer will cut cost to the MAX to cover the cost of Undertable and other formalities! Almost few millions has been spend in now! and more to go, coz Nusmetro will loose 12 million in a year for the delayed cost! House will be bocor everywhere and might be like Highland Towers in Kl!! Remember that building that collapse? Good Luck!
hi nelly :
i just visited the buah pala this afternoon.everything seems quiet, 5-6 guys are sitting in their camp site to guard the village..there are some banner critizing limguan eng still hanging along the road. i think Sept-01, there will be another round of stand off. i think NUSmetro Should strike the palce at 6:00am in the morning and barricade all entrance to prevent other kepo indian from ipoh/batu caves from entering
hi Shitong :
the chinese will only voice out aggressively using the vote in their hand. see how the penang BN topple. this is the most effective way of saying - " we object your policy". do u think street demo is effective ? there is a proverb "Pen is powerful than gun". please go back and think about it before you publish your "chinese awareness again"....
lightning,
U are good, u can think openly.. learn with the experiance..
Personal thinking, since the day buah pala resident turn down the terrace house offer, LGE already free from this political trap... Before this, all people pointing at DAP for not fulfilling their promise n pity those residents... now, public is accusing the greed of the residents and look up the sincerity of the state gov. and developer flexibility. If we refer to the NTV7 survey result once offer made, 98% thought the offers was more than enough la....
Hello,
My wife and I were some of the those early buyers. We received the brochure by the exclusive agent for the special viewing. We got the early birds discount.
We visited the site and we knew the people staying there. The developer and the agent convinced us that they were moving very soon.
After some time, we found out in the newspaper about all these Kampung Buah Pala. Pictures of old ladies, child holding cards, etc.
We discussed and thought that our home should not be built at the expense of other people's misery. We do not want to know who is wrong or who is right. Who is greedy and who is unreasonable. We do not want to get involved in all these. We cancelled our booking.
We did not regret. Our home is very important to the happiness of our family. It should be connected with something good and positive. It should not be directly or indirectly contributing to others' misery.
Wah.. Now the indians want to treaten dev and gov.. They are crazy lor.. If they want to burn their self carry on, after burn so their family juz take the ash clear the land.. S0 stupid this indians, they think if they said wan to burn their body so gov and dev will fullfit their wish.. Crazy thing, for gov and dev juz let they do wat they wan, mayb for merdeka they want to burn they their body.. hahaha.. This indians to much and greedy over greedy.. Hope they get nothing and sent they all back to india.. freedom! 1st i heard their place want to demolish i feel pity them and hope they can get new place but after today i feel like they should get nothing bcoz of their greedy to much!!
Lightning,
How the indian in kampg buah pala? if not mistaken yesterday 1st sept the dev want to crumplethat area.. Any new news coz yesterday i outstation..
i think this project only can be solve next year lor.. i feel fed up with this indian, they t00 much and over greedy.. actually wat they want?? i think all gov, najib or yg dipertuan agung also surender to help them coz they will ask more n more again.. this indian juz play a fool with ppl around, dev and gov.. this morning i really angry went use kampg buah pala road, the cows stand at the road in middle.. this indian very stupid dont know how to take care their cows and make their area kampg buah pala cleanm, went u pass by u can smell cows shit every where..
Dear Pang & lighning,
Please exercise some constraints on your posting. In your excitement of sarcascm and ridicule, you may inadvertently accumulate bad karma.
The least we can do is pray that no untoward incident happens and no children or old people are hurt. Let's hope that this episode can be settled amicably. After all, who are we to pass judgement?
hi wei cheong:
advice noted. sorry everybody. Actually we should not do this. let me recall my statement
hi wei cheong:
i have recalled my comments. actually it is for dicussion and talks only without ill intention. Anyway, thanks for your advice. it is good to have blog where people exchange ideas and talk their piece. but when the viewer thinks that it is sensitive, then we delete it. Bad kharma by having bad-mouth..this is buddha teaching...."speak good words from your mouth, walk the right path, use your hand to do good deeds"
weicheong,
sory for our comments that u not agree but u hapy that indian protest like this? they really greedy actually that also not under their name so y want to fight like crazy, the gov n dev already agreed to built double storey house that cost around rm600k but they still want more than that.. So wat u want to say OVER GREEDY?? i every day passby that area, that indian to much laa..They juz want to make havoc and ask their frens in ipoh to come down and involve for this case.. for wat?? Wat is their importance in that area?
hi pang:
now all is over...the indian come from batu cave go back to batu cave, come from ipoh, go back to ipoh, from MIC, go back to MIC, from Makka sakthi, from hindraf ....all por la....
and the stubborn resident finally do their final twist. saying they want to take the offer already and finally realsie that State government is their savour and not MIC, not UMNO, not DPM, not makka sakthi...
lightning,
I dont understand wat the final discussion? They accept the dev offer? Or stil maintain with their wish? I tot they want to see PM Najib for help... this all under Samy vellu la, he want all indian went down to support the protest..
hi pang :
dont try to understand ok. kampung buah pala association chairman/secretary is good at kepala pusing and confusing self contradicting statement. please try to channle your energy to whether we can buy cheap landed property from Nusmetro or not...they have secured some land from governmet to build 24 houses for the indian, and may sell some to potential buyer.
lightning,
U think got ppl want to buy houses near to indians kampg buah pala? sumore their cows also will be there, if u buy house next to them your kepala also will pusing coz their cows will enter to your house and eat all your plants.. hahahaha... everyday u can see cows visit your house and left their dung every where... i cant imagine how that area will b coz they still want their cows around there..
hi pang:
True also...but if the house is cheap why not. i can complain to MPPP daily to ask limguaneng to remove the cow if they dare to rear cow at residential area.The 2 story terrace for the resident, but for buyers, it will be Semi-D.
That area is quite cooling...Semi D for sales...Rm600K for 70X40 will be sold in 2 hours.
cheap not cheap la, around rm600k above also.. penang property now very expensive coz we hav not enough land.. That area cooling meh? but after dev startground work all the trees there no more ready.. Now all the indians there where they stay for temporary?
hi pang:
relax. The indy will go away very soon...one by one. the developer is using the progressive demolish tactic. the 1 st house to be demolished is very important. the developer have achieved this milestones.
i will walk in Nustmetro office next week to see any landed property for sales, even gated also ok.
Hi lightning,
This morning i saw police and traffic at kampg buah pala. alots of ppl there, i think today they want to settle the place.
hi pang..
it is all over, no more tamil movie to watch already. ya, like what i say, got 1 attempted self torch. and police do the right thing buy cordone off the road to prevent alien-indy from other place to come in.. now MIC general assembly over already...you wont see any MIC man there as expected...hindraf lah makka sakthi lah all elea pochi.
Hehehehe;p hope they can think positive way, they already get new house n better live.. Now i heard malay from tg tokong also want to do a same thing like kampg buah pala dun.. Alamak, another movie plak.. hehehe.. Tg tokong area is under UDA Land, the same thing all this malay stay there over 100years.. But now got a few familys already move to rumah panjang for temporary stay.But i know ppl there, they also like gangster but they are nothing.. Y ppl cant understand if they stay at ppl land, they must be prepared 1 day owner of that land sure will take back their land for develop rite..
Hi,
Any recent updates for this project - are there still many good units left for sale, and what are the current prices?
I was quoted in the region of 260k - 360k during the recent Property Fair, has there been any change since then?
Hi Jeremy,
i heard the price go up and parking also must buy rm18k.. that area also got apartment low medium cost mayb apartment gelugor if not mistaken la.. they will open for registration. i think that area will be pack and jem..
Hi jeremy,
The price start at 255K with 1069 sf,swimming pool view.
because of developer refund full 10% to some previous purchaser who ask for refund,so now still have some good units
I am interested in the project, but a local claim there're are all together 13 active wells beneath the ground of the construction. I wonder technically is the project safe?
Any updates on the oasis project since the case is close?
I went to their office 2 weeks ago, they started to sell their units again. According to the sale rep. , they will have official launching again in Nov after the Kampung Buah Pala case. They still have a lot of good units..Still considering to buy or not. But, if you want to buy should buy before official launching as they will increase after that…
I went to Numestro office twice, met different sale reps at different timing, but both deliver the same message: next monday onward, no more promotion price.... But weeks after, the price stay the same.... don't fall into the cheap sale tricks. Just take a look at the sale performance, what is the cost of raising the price with +-20% unit sold?
Honestly, this is not a bad project after all, even post the buah pala case. Too bad, all my capital tightened with shoplots.
may i know what is the promotion offered currently?
Last 2-3 weeks when I went there, the sale rep. told me they discount 40K for intermediate units and 10k for corner units. However, they will reduce the amount of the discount from time to time. By now they should provide 35K discount for intermediate units and 5k for corner units. Because he said they will increase price for 5k a week after that. Can anyone verify this??? Just to test the trustworthiness of the sales reps.
Hi guys, is it worth investing in oasis? My budget is less than 300k. Any better apartments/condo that i can get within this budget for investment.
Anyone booking oasis?
Hi all oasis condo buyers, ve u heard that the 24 terrace houses for compensation will be built using the land area stipulated for the condo,any comments tks.
Lee,
I heard the terrace house will be built on the opposite land area behind the upcoming low-medium cost apartment. are you one of the buyers?
Hi,I am interest to buy one unit for investment. Can anyone please comment on the return of interest of condo in Penang?
Catherine, how sure are you on the 13 well beneath the land?
My colleage husband told me. He is one of the police officer there during the kampung buah pala hu-ha (i saw some well in the newspaper photo too, but din mentioned 13). But, to be fair, IR engineer frez commented if developer done a decent job in piling and pump out the underground water (then refill with soil), should have no issue bcs underground water is very common (but 13 wells is a bit too much).
Visited the Oasis show room 2nd time today, was about to buy one until I found out the common area are all cement render, and the swimming pool area just concrete imprint. Maybe you might disagree with me that cement kinda thing is really apartment standard. And, if you pay enough attention to the 2x2 polished tiles, there're lots of spot marks... try a drop of coffee on the tile n leave it there for 20 mins, bet you never able to remove it for ur whole life (imagine your foot is wet n dirty). No joking. But, glad the developer staff is honest and relatively professional.
FYI: PDC senior officer told me, Nusmetro tend to deliver what they have promised. At least, one good point.
Thank you so much Catherine! Will drop by the sales gallery tomorrow.
Btw, how many of you have sign up either for investment o own living?
Oasis, none due to the cement render concern.
I bought elsewhere. Take care.
Hi Catherine,
Which apartment did u buy?Just to know whether there's any new and good apartments around for living as well as investment.
Tang,
I have booked one unit.
Latest investment (just paid booking last week), Quay Side - investment purpose.
Anonymous, Catherine, thanks for your sharing. Appreciated!
FYI, i am not staying penang, so, not so familiar with the investment thingy. How good is the rate of investment in terms of resale o rent out?
another question is how does penang ppl think about leasehold/freehold property? Still have many leasehold land undeveloped?
Anyone heard that this will become freehold? I heard something related with this .. and the showhouse is closed already if no mistaken.
Hi Chin, I was told that the showhouse was closed for interior design change before the official launch which is targeted on 2nd or 3rd week of Nov.
I was told as well that there is a possibility it will convert to FH.
Hi Chin/Ooi
Is that true there is a possibility to convert to FH? What is the price range now? Is there a lot of units left for sale?
They stopped the selling since last Sat until official lauch. Those at high floor and facing birdge were almost taken. Units left were mostly facing pool.
The agent honestly told me that during early soft lauch, they gave 40k discount but changed to 35k later, except corner unit. Not sure how much is the official lauching price. U can contact the sale person for more info.
The lastest news on last Friday was that it can be converted to FH with a premium. No idea how is the execution.
Anyone has more info about that?
I was been told as been mentioned by Ooi .. seem that the sales rep deliver same msg to customers. I bought one is discount 35k, with 30k (2 carpark).
There is possibility to convert as freehold, but they need time to recalculate the price for lauching (2nd/3rd week of nov), maybe that time is freehold already, and they need to settle with us (those leasehold buyer) regarding how much premium we need top up for FH..
SO far, there are still nice unit lefts, but mostly is pool view ..
Any idea y this condo don't have tennis one? haha ..
hi..
Now they r working at nite also, 8pm until 9.30pm..
Called this morning. sales person told me they will have official launching this weekend. selling price 290K without car park, got 20K discount. One car park cost 18K.
They also claimed "impossible" to get freehold.
If want to
hi fred,
you mean starting price for lower unit is 290k or most of the units? so with discount 20k, it will be 270k? is that correct? thanks.
The new design of The OASIS outlook in nusmetro website (www.nusmetro.com) look impressive especially on the facilities page. I believe in order to attrack more buyers, nusmetro have to improve the design of OASIS. As overall the design is more towards to premium condo rather than medium class condo.
I have visit my friend condo- Gold Coast Resort Condominium before, although the facilities is alot but the management is not put so much effort to maintain or redecorate their facilties. Since there is not much effort and focus on facilities maintainence, it look not so attractive. Currently the cheaper prices what you can get for the condo is about RM378K for 1184sq.ft.
http://www.fullhouse.com.my/public/pub_building_profile.asp?id=302
For me, I think The OASIS location is more strategic and the facilities seem better decorate. My opinion, if The OASIS can complete as per what they design in the Website, the price for the condo must be at least RM300K over.
By the way, I don't see any reason that the project will stop, with the price increase for the Condo plus the compensation(at least 30K++) from developer (for those early bird due to delay of project), the early birds who are not redraw in between seem to earn better investment.
what is the current package offered by nusmetro? Any discount or free car park?
Kinda expensive for a non-reputable developer's 99 L/H highrise, but demand is crazy due to good location. As of 5pm today, all bridge view units left only a handful at 300k n above, 20k disc for intermediate, 10k for corners. CP optional at another 18k ea, 30k b2b type. Other than developer absorbing bank interest during construction (prepaid in selling price), loan pkg not inclusive of legal fee for SPA & loan, etc. The Laucnhing offer is not attractive but a gimmick.
Hi,
Just went and booked one unit yesterday. I like the 15th floor because I can just use the stairs to the Sky Lounge at the 14th floor. Unfortunately, all the bridge view units were already booked so I bought the pool view corner unit instead..
Thought of keeping this for investment since I'm working in KL for the time being. Might sell or rent it after completion. But since I'm from Penang, I may stay there instead after completion if I work there one day.
The price is around 300K+ with one car park at 18K. Discount for corner unit is 10K. I'm taking AmBank.
Would like to hear more comments on this. Anything, you can email me as well at redzuana@gmail.com
May i know except Am bank, which bank you all chosed to take house loan?
Only ambank and bank islam are the bank panels for oasis project. Ambank offer better package (lower interest rates) compare to bank islam.
By the way, how was the sale for oasis project? anyone have any idea how many percent left or sold?
those 2 banks were there during their launching last weekend and ambank was better compare to bank islam. i've reserved a unit in block A, mayban also have the loan for oasis, but not attractive
Hi Lvin, I also booked Block A, which floor u booked?
Well .. this will be leasehold already, as previous buyer don't want to top up premium to become freehold, so last weekend launching, it is officially announced as leasehold, and have new facilities included.
Just now went to the sales office, almost 70% of the units are booked.
hi..can any one inform where is the sales office?
For apartment and condo very hard to change it from leasehold to freehold if compare to landed property just add rm30k - rm40k.
Fong,
Sales Office besides Mutiara Heights, along Jelutong Expressway. Believe you'll never miss the big banner hang at the building and also big NUSMETRO name on top of the building.
It's exactly in front of the flyover.
Dear All,
For those interested to know more and for viewing, please do give me a call @ 012-3829585 for a prior appointment.
Regards,
Keegan
Hello
What will be the package offer by AMBANK Malaysia for this time? Previously they have several offer i.e. BLR -1.95%, or BLR- 1.85% for this project.
By the way, leasehold or freehold to condo/apartment is doesn't matter. Normally leasehold or freehold condo price will follow the bell curve (offcourse leasehold will be more sharp and narrow), the price value is pick between 5-15 years, after that the price will gradually decrease. Averagelly, consider bank interest and etc, best rate of ROI will be 2-4 years after project is complete. Offcourse,
there will be different calculation for freehold landed property in the same hot location as the rate of price rising is much higher than the rate of bank interest.
As what we understand, the condo no matter lease hold or freehold after 99 years will become instabil building (危楼), do you dare to live anymore or do you think there will be a buyers for this condo at this time? As a buyer, what is your plan? To buy a brand new leasehold condo or 50 years freehold condo?
For Oasis, I think it is nice for living as the location is quite strategic. For investment still need to think of 5% tax.
Hi Property,
This time Ambank offer BLR-2.2% but the tied up period is 7 years. Besides, during vacant possession, the interest would be borne by developer. However the S&P fees is not covered.
Regarding the property sales tax, for first year is 30%. After 5 years, it would reduce to 5%
Agreed with you that regardless it is leasehold or freehold, after 99 years the building would not stable. Anyhow for landed property, it is encouraged to buy freehold type as the land is not sharing with others.
There is still unit available. I bought a unit there (first house) and i see good units are almost been taken up. Therefore for those who is still looking around for property,you may go to see them now.
Intermediate unit 20K discount and 10K for corner unit
Please correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks
May I know what is property sales tax?
Due to I am first time to buy house ..
Is that you all take lawyer from Nusmetro or use own one??
For the stamp duty, how is the stamp duty calculation?
Hi Chin,
Property sales tax only apply when you want to sell your house to third party
Probably i would do comparison on the legal fee charge between Nusmetro lawyer and outside
The stamp duty normally is based on your purchase price. The higher you purchase,the more you need to pay. Heard that got discount from government for the stamp duty. My friend told me that she paid 2K stamp duty for RM200K loan.
Checking with Ambank advisor during pre-launch time, we need to prepare 6-7K for S&P and legal fee.
Thanks passionate ..
I consult with a lawyer, he offer me the price is RM1800 (without stamp duty),RM3600 for loan.. he said stamp duty will pay after completion, is it correct??
Hmm .. Nusmetro lawyer offer me a price that higher than this lawyer .. but I don't sure is it include stamp duty??
May I know u all (buyers), ru using own lawyer or Nusmetro lawyer? Which one nicer??
I need advice .. Thanks in advance first ..
Dear all,
For those who interesting in viewing the show unit and know more about this project, kindly please contact me at 0124933174. You are welcome to email me too,thank you.
Email address: kechuah79@gmail.com
contact number: 0124933174(CHUAH)
thks and rgds,
Chuah
(NUMESTRO SALES PERSON)
nusmetro lawyer offer abt 2.5k for S&P incl. stamp duty & abt 3.9k (based on loam amount) for bank loan legal.
Not sure whether this is consider ok or expensive.any idea?
Hi Chuah,
is there many units left ?
Thanks
Hi s-Boy,
There are just around 50% left. Please come and view our show room at our sales office. Please call me before you come.
Thks & regards,
Chuah
0124933174
i m decided to cancel my booking from unprofessional agent from henry butcher due to misleading and providing wrong information. I have checked with my lawyer that its impossible for leasehold land convert to freehold after project completed. Maybe..the agent want to close deal and told me that is a free legal fee on SPA but when i checked with developer there are no such thing ! So..to my dear potential buyers..please do some homework before make any decision.
Hi Loo..
u said ur agent told u that is free legal fee on SPA?? That's impossible, my agent did told me and showed me example quotation, my agent told me last time it is have decide change to freehold with previous buyer to top up premium, but they refused so Nusmetro top up additional facilities for this project..
Anyway, as I knew, when sign SPA, need pay 10%-booking fees, SPA and loan lawyer fees(about 7k) .. is it this is the message passed by your agent?
chin,
i so suprise that wat u say,i m the 1st badge buyer,..i sign snp since the 1st launch.u say ur agent told your that because of the previous buyer dun want pay extra money to get freehold...OMG,they never contach us...ever a call or a letter..i rather to pay 30-40k to get freehold land..but..they never infrom us..who are your agent..and pls check b4 wat you say.it not fair to us..
Loo,are you sure Henry Butcher commented that it will change frm Leasehold to freehold, all this while they have been doing this project & they are aware about the leasehold.I was there during last sat,i met one of the HB agent, they told me is leasehold and i asked the same question,they said NO. They are the best real estate company that can provide information about any new or exsisting projects. We have been using them since day one for almost 5 years.Which unit you brought since you said, you want to cancel.
for ur information, henry butcher alway hav problem.. The surin dev bolton set them because they lier to surin buyer, alots of complaint i heard about them..
Hi epower,
I also surprised too when the agent told me, I also tell him I'm willing to top up 30k-40k for get freehold land, then he just told me as what I mentioned just now, actually I also don't know whether the information is correct or not.. as I and my sister in law also bought unit at there, I am buyer before the official launching date also, and they didn't call me, I wonder this is their own arrangement.
However, I still like Oasis design .. so I told my agent "never mind, since first I place my booking, I knew this is leasehold.."
I hope that the message that delivered by me just now won't make you mad yea, as I also one of the buyer.. ^___^ .. anyway, we call to nusmetro office to confirm whether freehold is possible or not.
Nobody can determine whether the land could be converted to freehold. It is subjected to Goverment approval if the developer wish to submit the application. I did raise this question to them and they mentioned if all the buyers are willing to pay for the premium then they can try to apply. Total premium is about RM14 million.
If all of us agreed to pay, then we can arrange a day to talk to them before the building completed
I cant deny that HB agents provide misleading information.But i think only certain people is doing that way to get the deal close. One of the HB agents did tell my friend that the S&P is FOC.
Agreed with Loo that, we may need to do homework before make any decision. We cant trust 100% on agents words but we can use their information as an input. The most important is we need to study in details(pros and cons)and see if the pucrhase worth the value required.
Per Chin comment, the developer emphazise more on the facilities. Yes, i got this confirmation from them also.
my agent told me it is impossible to convert to free hold.
After the project is launched, not very possible that leasehold could converted to freehold because you cannot get all buyers to top up premium, and definitely developer won't pay premium himself.
It is still ok for me with leasehold title. Not sure if my future grandchild still want to stay my house after 100 years old later if i purchase freehold house. Cant deny that the resale value for freehold title is higher but it is also depends on many factors.
The most important for me is the location and easy access. Besides, there are units sell at below 300K. After done the survey, it is hard to get such price for >1000sqf at that location with new brand building. I like their facilities as well
As i know, previously Bayswater- IJM project- (near E-gate)the title for Block A is leasehold. During the construction, government approved their application to freehold. Therefore Block B units are more expensive than Block A. However Block A buyer still pay at old price. In other words, it benefits the developer and also Block A buyers. Does anyone know the process on how IJM get the freehold title?
Hi Chin, i'm at Level 11, how about u?
So, whtat do i do now after i've made the booking? apply for loan? how long will the loan be approved normally? When will the developer be calling me and whaat will i need to do?
First time buyer.
Hi Lvin,
I and my sister-in-law booked level 6..
After u place the booking fees, you need apply for loan, the panel are AM bank and Bank Islam, do u need theor contact no?
If your document (EPF, payslip, EA form) and salary is sufficient, it will take 3days for processing, sometime it will need supporting document.
You will receive a letter from developer to inform you when can go sign SPA, and developer also will call u to confirm a date for sign SPA.
I asked Nusmetro already, I don't understand why they insist want me use their lawyer, I don't sure is that any buyer hire outside lawyer?
Due to my lawyer can give me RM1.8k (SPA) and RM3.6k(Loan), but Nusmetro give me RM2.5k(SPA) and RM3.9k(Loan). After confirmed with lawyer, the stamp duty for strata title will need pay (may be 5-6years later) and costs 5-6k as well..
Heard that OASIS S&P specfies the build up area as 700sf, but extension to 1000++sf, Im curious how this project able to obtain OC as it is not matching, how our government going to approve it? Will that pose any problems to those buyer?
I just booked a unit pool view during recent sales launch at Nusmetro.
Has anybody been to the Oasis project site lately ? Don't know when are they going to start pilling?
I think the investment in this property will be profitable if the dev can complete this condo according to its proposal.
Dear all,
For those who interesting in viewing the show unit and know more about this project, kindly please contact me at 0124933174. You are welcome to email me too,thank you.
Email address: kechuah79@gmail.com
contact number: 0124933174(CHUAH)
thks and rgds,
Chuah
(NUMESTRO SALES PERSON)
i'm still shopping for bank loan and so far it seems that ambank is offering the best deal. hong leong bank also not bad...
i guess the reason they wan u to use their lawyer is for their convenience becoz if u appoint ur own lawyer, then youll need to get all those info for ur lawyer to proceed. i guess we can still bargain with their lawyer on the high price?
so how long will the developer gonna take to call us for S&P signing?
chin, how about ur carpark, i bought back to back, save 13k, haha..
well yeoh, i've been to the site from time to time, they r working on it everyday, i dun see ne pilling, only lotsa lorry digging and transporting the sand from the site to the opposite.
there are still lotsa goats and cows relaxing along the road, i guess those are the gifts by the developer
Hi Lvin
I heard news from a fren that the dev use different type of pilling method unlike the olden day's one which creates loud noise and vibration to that area. People staying there might complain.
Do you guys know that they will build terrace houses and a low cost flat in that same area?
Hopefully they can keep their goats and cows properly.
I have confident that Nusmetro & Koperasi can complete this project successfully as I do not forsee any obstacle for them anymore
My sis in law also booked a unit at block B with 2 carparks BACK TO BACK with addtional RM 30k.
The back to back is a bad design for Oasis's future occupant. I heard frm her that the front car has to go out b4 the other one can move. They said this can save space but how are they going to build the whole car park lots....I mean
how many single & back to back car park lots VS.
actual car park lots bought by owners ?
Im just curious. I heard a few of the condos in Pen also practice this design.
A- Some developers in Penang Island who launched the condominium project has used the illegal method. That is to have 2 agreements for S&P. One is for the actual unit size and the other is using the common area or so called accessory of parcel to convert and consider as the housing size in a later stage after OC obtained. Means that the extension work is carried out upon OC obtained. Example for an unit of 1400sf. 1 S&P will only cover for 900sq and the other will cover for another 500sf. Most of the purchaser are not awared the motive of such arrangement because the developer will tell them that it is for the sake of helping the purchaser to reduce the Assessment Rate by MPPP. As we know some banker will not accept to loan if there is two S&P involved. However the purchaser must get the loan from the developer panel banker. I believe it is not right.
How can MPPP close one eye on this or did not take action on this issue?
B- So what’s description of the property in both S&Ps??? If same description why need 2 agreements??? Surely it cannot be not same : 900sq cannot be described as property “A” and balance of for another 500sf for the same apartment unit of 1400sf cited in your example cannot be described as property “B”….
I don’t understand what you said about 2 sale and purchase agreements (” S&Ps”) for one unit of apartment divided into 2 parts, ie 900sq and the other will cover for another 500sf.
Are you sure it is not one S&P for the whole unit of 1400sf with description of the property and other Deed of Mutual Covenants for use of common property with other common users – as is usual the case involving condominium apartments???
So which is correct?
I heard Oasis has assigned 5 contractors for house renovation. If you would like to use your own contractor for house renovation, you have to buy the raw materials from them.
Any details of these 5 contractors? Are they gangster contractors?
Lvin,
I also bought back to back ..
Are your loan approved already and when you will going to sign S&P? Nusmetro called me twice times already..
If carpark back2back will create problem.. Oasis got 300++ unit, can u imagine how pack it is?? They just hav around 100++ carpark only that y they do parking back2back. Not enough parking space.. balance if got 1unit 2 or 3 cars? balance who not buy carpark.. AAAhhhh...!!! That area limited only the space, somemore still got apartment LMC & terace house, really jem with car parking at road side..
hi, i still haven't get my loan yet and still shopping for it. they called you to sign d. i still haven't get any phone calls from them yet.
maybe becoz they know i haven't get loan yet that's why din ask me to sign.
chin/ yeoh, which bank did you loan from?
Hi Lvin,
My loan also processed about 2-3weeks already, haven't any news yet, heard is too lot application already.
I in trying AMBANK..
Lvin/Yeoh,
how is your loan application?
Hi Lvin & Chin,
I applied AMbank bcos it offers better rate n flexi package. I just got the approval today .
Lvin, you can try the offer frm AMbank?
My loan application ( Ambank ) took approx. 1week to get approved. So glad that it was approved.
i wonder how many units aldy sold......not book ?
Earlier i heard was 50%. Well I will def go to the contruction site to see as and when Im free.
Lvin & Chin,
hope you guys can get your loan approve. Its nice to have you two as my future neighbour.
max,can u contach me..i m esther 0124059327 i m 1 of the purchaser.thanks
I'm on Ambank too.. still not gotten any update from them. Nusmetro smsed me and said the progressive interest will be cancelled if I don't get everything ready by 20 Dec :(
hi redswenzz
mine got the respond in a weeks time. U can try to call the Ambank. I just checked wif my Nusmetro's sales person, some got 90% n a few got 80% loan approval frm Ambg.
I just get updated from Nusmetro office, Public Bank and Eon Bank already are their panel, we may try apply for this.
And car park price is increase to 25k.. woo, suddenly price up.
Anyone know the EON bank sales person contact no.?
wow,
U mean the first carpark price is now 25k? How about 2nd carpark?
Hi Chin, May I know how is the offer from PBB and EON?
Hi melv, the agent told me that the 25k is applied to those who want to purchase 2nd CP which is side by side. The 1st should be still at 18k. Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks.
Hi Snowpy,
EON is 0% for first year, -2.2 for following tenure years.
PBB one I don't sure, as I haven't get the contact.
Hi Chin,
Can i have EON bank sales contact no.?
Hi GSK,
you can contact Oh, 0164358086.
Which block you booked ah? Nice to meet you
Hello Chin,
Thanks... Nice to meet you too.
I booked at block C floor 18.
Just received info that the car park is re-layout, developer just switch my car park only, it been switch to a not so nice place already.
I in consider whether should buy side by side car park, but the price is no more original price (18k), current price is 25k.