The Oasis

The Oasis Condominium located at Gelugor, off Jalan Yeap Choy Ee in a residential neighbourhood with easy accessibility to Bayan Lepas, the mainland and Georgetown.

The development is well-served by numerous retail stores including Tesco and Queensbay, as well as hospitals, clinics, schools and University Sains Malaysia (USM). Nearby neighborhoods include Minden Heights, Taman Gelugor, Taman Brown, Taman Pekaka and University Place.

Property Project : The Oasis Condominium
Location : Gelugor, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
No. of Blocks : 3
Built-up Area : approx. 1,041 to 1,183 sq.ft.
Developer : Nusmetro Venture (P) Sdn Bhd

Facilities
24 hours security, CCTV, Wi-Fi, Ready centralized Astro point, Swimming Pool, Gym, Squash Court, Jacuzzi, Yoga Room, Courtyard, Barbeque Pit.

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July 23, 2008 at 1:44 PMUnknown: any lastest news??
22 july ...
July 24, 2008 at 9:49 AMAnonymous: No news, no changes, no... everything no... on 22nd July...
Need to wait again till 31 July hearing...;(
July 28, 2008 at 1:11 PMAnonymous: You guys are so gullible ! Do you think it's so simple to get summary judgement when there are so many points of law in dispute? I've been on so many law cases taking this shortcut means taking a more longer time to settle this case. Wake up !!! The developer is trying to pull your legs.
July 28, 2008 at 3:44 PMAnonymous: We only could hope for the best. What to do, most of us have already signed the S&P and bank loans approved.We have to be possitive over this. Furthermore, we do have faith with the current government that they will intervene and ensure there are no further abandoned projects.
July 28, 2008 at 4:21 PMAnonymous: ya... we can't do anything now.
We already signed the S&P and the building material already increase so high where most of the project, current condo or apartment rising like rocket high. We have no choice and there is no other better than the oasis.
It is consider the condo that still havent raise their price.
And there is alot of abondoned projects outside. I still have confidence on this project and we hav to...
July 28, 2008 at 5:05 PMAnonymous: To those who are keeping fingers crossed, read the article below i found on Penangwatch.com. The state government is making an effort to solve this issue.
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Sept 11 hearing for ‘High Chaparral’ case

GEORGE TOWN: The High Court here has fixed Sept 11 to hear the application by seven resi-dents of the cow-grazing village in Lorong Buah Pala, dubbed Penang’s ‘High Chaparral,’ to stop a cooperative, a developer and a land office from evicting them and demolishing their homes.

The matter was called up in the court yesterday but Justice John Louis O’Hara decided to hear the case on Sept 11 which was also the date to hear the cooperative and developer’s appeal against the court’s dismissal of their application for vacant possession of the land.

Counsel B. Jeyasingam for Ko-perasi Pegawai Kerajaan Negeri Pulau Pinang Bhd (KPKN) and Nusmetro Ventures (P) Sdn Bhd told the court: “My clients’ stand is that the outcome of this appeal will have bearing on all other matters.”

He also said Nusmetro was running short of time and the project was 30% behind sche- dule.

The plaintiffs’ counsel Cecil Rajendra said they would try to reach an amicable settlement on the matter.

He also said the state govern-ment was making serious efforts to mediate a settlement of the matter.

Cecil and V. Amareson ap-peared for the plaintiffs on behalf of the Penang Legal Aid Centre while assistant state legal adviser Mohd Ghazali Mohd Taib repre-sented thefirst defendant, the North-East District Land Office.
July 31, 2008 at 11:10 AMAnonymous: Today is 31st July. Nusmetro is going for 2nd court order today.Whoever calls Mr.Lee/Nusmetro to get updates on the court order, please share it with everyone in this blog. I guess they shoudl be back only after lunch from the court.Thats what happens the previous time
August 1, 2008 at 10:40 AMAnonymous: hi positive,
Are you the purchaser of the oasis?
Why dont you call up mr.lee and share with us?
August 1, 2008 at 2:03 PMAnonymous: There will be another hearing by Aug 28... Now Nusmetro are stop selling the property and in progress working on new price...
August 1, 2008 at 11:54 PMAnonymous: hhmm...nothing else but 'hearing, hearing and more hearings' keep on relying on the 'hearings'...a good developer will have everything in order even before launchng a project..well..i guess not this one..profit oriented but not customer oriented..
no doubt this property will start...but concern is when..and also is it worth the worries that we r having now on this project?
-level 5-
August 2, 2008 at 2:02 AMAnonymous: ya it might not worth.. to worry... sometimes..
But, is there any better choice and location now with the price that we already book?
this will the the question!!
All the property already rise like a shooting rocket high above the sky...
Can we get a better one and this will be the most important!
No choice for us.. so we have to wait...
although is a sad things..
but what can we do?
Just wait again le...
At last we will definitely earn back geh if the project start piling....
August 5, 2008 at 9:40 AMAnonymous: Just have to wait..wait.. and wait... but still nothing we get.. If we still wait n give face to Numestro until the end this case loose.. Numestro 'angkat bungkus'... how?? That time we get nothing n just headache only...

Rose@}---
August 5, 2008 at 1:15 PMAnonymous: I think it might be wise if we group up and ask nusmetro wht are the options. Some of us had paid the money since the launching whc is in Nov 2007. And i bet till end of this year this issue would not be solve. If for instance, they could not start the project by this year then they should give us the option of refunding our money in full and bear all the losses. Why not nusmetro give us an undertaking letter over this then giving us letter of explaination which has proven useless.
August 6, 2008 at 10:29 AMAnonymous: Hi think it is wise to stay on...
Nusmetro already stop their sales and going to raise the price and sell it on coming property fair on september.
So they must actually solve the problem on the latest 28Aug hearing...
Do not worry too much... as congrat for those already sign S&P... u already earn as the property already increase 40-60k...
August 6, 2008 at 11:28 AMAnonymous: I am agreeable with skipper. Lets just stay on.We can all go together and see Nusmetro to claim/dmand back our deposit if nothing happens by end of the year.Till then, keep fingers crossed and lets hope the project will sail smoothly after all the unexpected hurdles. The state government has also given a word that they will help out to ensure the issue will be solved soonest possible as Nusmetro has already highlighted to them regarding the project behind schedule.
August 6, 2008 at 11:37 AMAnonymous: Don't be too happy and congrat ppl too fast with the earning on paper.
August 6, 2008 at 1:00 PMAnonymous: 1st of all the project is stalled, it is stalled because there is no progress. In fact, it is not even initiated since the day of launch the dev. hasn't taken possession of the site. We could say that our investment has increase in value, which has been the result of the dev. increasing the selling price. Under normal circumstances, property increase in value once the project kick starts..towards completion will be the peak of any increment, if the factors are right. One of the factors are the demand towards the property - when there is a strong buying demand then dev. shall BALANCE along with pecking the property at a higher price. This will make early birds like us see an increase in our investments.In this case now, where does the demand comes from?
August 6, 2008 at 1:16 PMAnonymous: Increasing the selling price without any demand, nusmetro is only doing us a "peacock dance".
One sales staff noted that she/he alone had handled over 10 cases of cancellation in one month. Arguably, there are at least 30 canxx staff wide for the same period. Well, is that a positive demand. If you check the market, no one will want to make a deposit for oasis for the time being, it is not that dev. stop selling...its rather there is no demand..nobody s buying oasis.Buyers whom have committed themselves have no choice but to stay on and hope for the best. But on the other hand these buyers must start to think of our options not just watch the "Peacock dancer". As them for an undertaking to refund, not just ready to hear sweet talks.
August 6, 2008 at 1:43 PMAnonymous: First of all, I am not a buyer but just stop by this blog to read the later progress on this issue.

I feel it really ridiculous in this case for developer to raise the selling price without having the project physically started.

Who will dare & confident enough to invest $$$ with this project as a matter of fact that this project hasn't started since day 1 it launched ...

This could be a strategy from the developer to try to calm down the existing buyers I guess ...
August 6, 2008 at 3:32 PMAnonymous: Thats exactly right!! So far I can see developer are trying to cover the whole issue, pretending they could easily overcome the problem. Infact, from their letter, they even make comparison with over 500 squatters in Jelutong. Its high time they approach the buyers with actual situation, rather then making buyers "syok sendiri".
500 squatters in Jelutong has to move because there is no issue about land deal, 20 in b. gelugor could not be move because land doesn't belong to whom dev. is saying it belongs to. A few of the houses demolished shown in the letter - only one was situated in the actual Oasis project side, the rest were situated across the road whre they plan to build Low Cost units. Common Nusmetro, get real here!!! When they wanted to sent us the letter, I told them specifically - dont bother sending me any, because I know the actual situation, and I pretty much know they trying to sweet talk. Tell us the actual situation.Buyers were not born yesterday.
August 6, 2008 at 3:41 PMAnonymous: 28th Aug is not the date, the actuall more important hearing date is 11ht Sept. Those summary judgement dates are made of no use, I cant understand why Nusmetro file for summary judgement rather then buying time from buyers. If the land deal was done rightfully, squatters hasn't much thing to raise rather then accept the compensation and leave.Developer could easily get a court order to remove squatters if land deal is justified. 11th Sept will be the hearing date for squatters application to completely stop nusmetro from getting the land. Nusmetro has obtain the title for the land but not the VP. They are trying to stop them frm obtaining VP stating that land was sold by state govt. whre the land actually belongs to federal govt.Some of the former YBs involve in this scam are not answering calls too...So we buyers must not be so happy...for right now we are in trouble...please demand nusmetro to get real!!!
August 7, 2008 at 12:20 PMAnonymous: i think it's normal for selling price to increase althrough the development have not start. put yourself as developer where the material price increase while u not increase the selling price. then u will say whether this is accetapble.
August 7, 2008 at 2:42 PMAnonymous: wind

any unit left? what the price now a day?
August 8, 2008 at 10:50 AMAnonymous: Anyone who would like to cancel their booking, can do so and bring S&P agreement to Nusmetro Office.Reimburse based on old price. Ask to see MR LEE.
August 8, 2008 at 10:53 AMAnonymous: People like "racing" and other critical buyers can cancel their booking. Please do not create panicking situation and unsettle other buyers.
This project is genuine and will be carried out professionally and delivered as per S & P agreement.
August 8, 2008 at 4:35 PMAnonymous: You know what, i agree. Everyone knows what are their options. If you really are not keen to keep your fingers crossed and hope this project will sail smoothly and have nomore patience, i am sure you can just proceed and cancel your booking.JUst go and talk to Nusmetro and see how you can get back your money is getting back money is your issue. FOr the rest who genuinely wants this project to kick-off and complete, lets juts wait as that is the only thing we can do.HIghlight to the state government if we still see nothing happens by Sept so that the state govermment is aware that the buyers are anxious too.I am sure Nusmetro juts like all the buyers are keen to get started with the project.I am sure the investment that they have made is more than what we have made so far.Fyi, i am not from NUsmetro, i am a genuine buyer who is just hoping to get my dream apartment in 3 years time.
August 8, 2008 at 6:21 PMAnonymous: positive,

yur dream apartment? more like your dream-on apartment.. :)

Racing,

I echo your sentiments and concerns totally dude... really pity those who still cant wake up and still waiting dreamily without any efforts to ring the panic bell but rather follow the court judgement dates from one to another...
August 9, 2008 at 12:29 PMAnonymous: Just let them wait..wait... n wait... Happily waiting...
Until everything gone only they will wake up n that time nothing can help them...loose money 10% but get nothing...
Pity you all guys..
August 9, 2008 at 9:37 PMAnonymous: For those who keep giving very negative comment or comment that says "cancel booking, this developer will go bankrupt, project wont start, developer trying to scam my 10%", if you dont like it or dont feel like buying it anymore, just go and cancel your booking with Nusmetro, nobody is forcing you to buy or cancel. Is there any good reasons that the developer will not return your 10%? Their image and opportunity to do business in future is more important than your 10%. Everyone deserve a chance and support.
August 9, 2008 at 10:18 PMAnonymous: sorry, I really dunno what to do. Any suggestion ? Pls help. I am desperate...
August 10, 2008 at 3:21 PMAnonymous: I am not an owner of Oasis, but just to share my 2cents:

Part 1:
Since the blog has claimed the developer allows refund (unconditional, full, when, how) of your pre-payment, I suggested you get a firm confirmation direct from developer about the refund (get details details details). If answers are positive, wait until Sept property fair, search for better offers/options in the market. Don't be despaired, Penang is not short of good projects out there (I bought two condos in July'08, but not Oasis). Once u found one, u can comfortably and happily commit to it as you know what to expect from Nusmetro about your $$.

Time is money, both for buyers and developers. If wait long enough, developer may find it not financially sound to continue the project. It not the first time in our history that developers refund their buyers pre-payment and cancel the SPA (without your consent) bcs they find it more profitable to sell the project to others or build it under new company name. By that time, your 10% may not get u a similar property elsewhere.

I assured you time has cost the developer lots of $, (hearing, bank interests, potential LAD for delayed delivery, and materials cost increment). Even they continue the project, Oasis is unlikely to be what it should be. Do anyone aware Nusmetro has any other land bank in Penang? If not, they really have no much to lose. Reputation? Think twice.

What if you find the refund is not fair or basically cannot be done?
August 10, 2008 at 9:39 PMAnonymous: As I said, can anyone suggest a better condos with the previous price that we already paid to nusmetro...
I have been surveying too..
If I get I will surely get refund and dump my 10% to other property...
Talk is easy now.. But tell us...
wat is the other development in penang that we can get...
Please advice...
August 10, 2008 at 11:54 PMAnonymous: skipper,

u are talking like u surely can get a refund. Seems yur only worry is which other project to invest in once u exit from oasis?

surin, spring, summer, vista gambier, i regency, brezza..take yur pick...
August 11, 2008 at 12:19 AMAnonymous: Brezza seems a good pick, good locations, 1250sqf or more, not high density, sea/gurney view, and I heard it's going to be freehold soon.
August 11, 2008 at 10:23 AMAnonymous: but all the other condo's prices have gone up. the price is around RM300K now for the smallest unit :-(
August 11, 2008 at 11:33 AMAnonymous: I not sure I can get the refund or not...
But I think nusmetro will be happy if some of us cancel their S & P.
As if they can settle the squatter they can sell higher price in future to other puchasers.
That is the point now where most of the condo/apartment already rise very high...
cannot get back the price with strategic location,sqf like oasis during launching time liao.
So what can we do?
Wait lo!
August 12, 2008 at 11:58 AMAnonymous: Skippers,

you can wait...wait.. n wait.. enjoy your vacation on waiting.. hahaha... We give you advice, dont want you to suffer bcoz of Numestro problem now.. But you look like pretending them again..If any thing happen (touch wood) Numestro will not pretending you la.... They just think their side only..
Please think for the future..
August 12, 2008 at 1:41 PMAnonymous: for those already sign bank agreement, what can we do? Just wait only... Cancel now lost 10% and if Nusmetro go bankrupt also lost 10%.. why not wait?
August 12, 2008 at 4:07 PMAnonymous: i dunno what racing and others is trying to ask us to do.For those who have already gotten the bank loan approved, we cannto do anything.If we dont wait, tell me what can we do. Are you goign to give back my 10% if i simply say i want to cancel my S&P? Do you think if we go storming at Nusmetro's office door, they are going to "layan" us? Lets all be practical here
August 12, 2008 at 5:49 PMAnonymous: Part II

All of us here have good intention to solve problem, just approach are different. Certainly, a little less emotion but more analytical works would be helpful here.

Waiting is not necessary wrong, but for any buyers, I am suggesting you to assess the current status 360 degree before making the call. Not only to assess the developer current financial & operation & legal status, but also the 3rd party policy (banker & authority, architect) and the market offers. As some of you claimed, developer is refunding (how much? full 10%, when?). Why they adopt this strategy? Will be helpful if someone verify that assumption plz (talk direct with mgmt, bypass the sale reps). As skipper suggest, they may plan to “buy back” more units and sell higher (sound like stock), possible?

For bank loan, have the bank released any $? If not yet (very important), what’s the chances to terminate the loan agreement under the circumstance the developer is not performing, or the developer allow cancellation of sale? Exit cost how much, and some bank allow you to transfer the loan to other project without incur exit fee if you reapply loan from them ((typically with higher loan margin, I done that). If bank have released money, then very complicated looo… Get your lawyer and banker advice on related policy, but sure something can be done.

Be practical is to find out all the possible solutions, although the situation may sound very despaired, dun give up. A proper authority or legal letter is much more powerful than we physically there to storm the developer office, isn’t it?

Arrr… Did someone mentioned the Brezza? I personally committed one. Location is not an absolute factor, but rather subjective... For instance, for those work in Bayan Lepas, the Brezza just sucked! Pricing, area growth and developer stability wise, two thumbs up.
August 13, 2008 at 9:47 AMAnonymous: Its ok with us.. we juz remind you all..

Positive,

You can still wait n think positive.. hahaha... Nobody force you to take your money if you dun want.. Its ok, you can invest in Numestro..or make charity to them..

Enjoy your investment...
August 13, 2008 at 11:44 AMAnonymous: i was among the visitor who visit oasis show room when they started to launch and luckily i didnt bought the property..
anyway i wish u guys best of luck in getting back your money.

-tt
August 14, 2008 at 12:03 PMAnonymous: I just want to share with you all guys..
My frenz told me that Oasis cant effort for this condo..
They said, if got buyer already paid for 10% n already sign S&P n also the loan already approved will not get back their money..
They surrender to continued coz no luck that land..
Pity you all guys.. Numestro lier to you all also you guy still want to trust them..
Im sory to tell you guy about this..

Penangspy
August 14, 2008 at 5:08 PMAnonymous: wow.. penangspy... izzit.. wat u said is true?
who is ur friend?
the penang CM?
I so certain that you are 1 of the squatter that try to do havoc here...
we will see soon... what will happen...
August 15, 2008 at 1:33 PMAnonymous: Just now i signed my loan (other project) with HSBC. I kepo and ask their view about Nusmestro.

HSBC policy is even if you sign the loan agreement, u can cancel the loan if developer is not performing. No penalty fees, but if you took zero entry package, the borrower have to refund HSBC the legal fees. That's all.
August 18, 2008 at 11:24 AMAnonymous: Neha,
How you S0 sure im from squatters?
Dun no how to diferentiate who is squatters ppl?
If you think this condo can be success juz pray for it n wait for the time..I juz inform wat i know from my frenz..
That CM is my relative,not my frenz.. So what??

PenangSpy
August 20, 2008 at 10:23 PMAnonymous: Hmm,look like so many expert here~
to all buyer if really love Oasis dont bother those blow water if really run just 10% ,take this as lesson and for invester no comment on it
August 21, 2008 at 11:12 AMAnonymous: Hi...PenangSpy.! Not just CM relative but PM relative....award you as a MalaysiaSpy.
August 25, 2008 at 2:26 PMAnonymous: Any news about Oasis? Numestro?
August 26, 2008 at 3:03 PMAnonymous: hi Oasis owners!! how is the status of the project? abandon or delay ??
August 26, 2008 at 5:30 PMAnonymous: On time!
August 26, 2008 at 5:44 PMAnonymous: There will be another hearing on 28 Aug 2008, coming thursday...
Let see what Nusmetro's lawyer can do with it...
August 26, 2008 at 11:07 PMAnonymous: I need to check a few things;
1) Price for 1041 sg feet(apprx 10th.flr)
2) Price for 1183 sq. feet(Apprx. 10th. flr.)
3) Completion date.

Thank you.
August 27, 2008 at 1:13 AMAnonymous: The price for the oasis now is around 270k-300k for apprx. 10 floors..and that also depend on facing which side..
The completion date as stated in S&P will be April 2011.
You can do survey during the Property fair that will be coming soon at PISA during early september.
August 27, 2008 at 10:04 AMAnonymous: how many car park ?
August 27, 2008 at 10:53 AMAnonymous: Will it still under leasehold? Cant they apply for freehold b4 they starting their work?
August 27, 2008 at 4:06 PMAnonymous: I am not sure on the amount actually include car park or not.
Previously their package starting 240k is not include car park.
they have 2 option on car park: 1st is only 1 car park for 1 unit 2nd if u want 2 car park then they only have back-to-back car park.
1 car park price is almost 10k-16k. Depend on their promotion.
The oasis is definitely Leasehold.
They will actually appeal to convert to freehold but is not the developer that have the power... is the state government and that we need to seek for CM Lim Guan Eng hahaha... You can contact nusmetro.com directly or wait for the Property Fair for more accurate information
August 27, 2008 at 9:23 PMAnonymous: What....they should convert to freehold?&%$#@&
They should first make sure the land is theirs, right now they are already having problem getting VP over the said land, and you think they shd think of convertion. What a joke !!!!
What can their lawyers do, nothing!!! They are actually trying to ask Nayer to negotiate with the squatters...ooops shall I make one thing perfectly clear. They are toll holders, only Nusmetro is referring them as squatters. 28th hearing would draw down to the same old thing, developer is just making excuses calling for pre judgement. Only can wait for the real hearing. I pity those buyers, have been taken for a ride....but buyers who know the real true picture but paint a different story....susah la, don't you guys want to wake up to realism
August 28, 2008 at 9:38 AMAnonymous: Today they got hearing rite? How, any result?
August 28, 2008 at 2:29 PMAnonymous: Any update??
August 28, 2008 at 2:54 PMAnonymous: no way....no reason for pre judgement to remove squatters since land ownership is still an issue. Squatters matters will be handed to the party that really owns the land, that wouldnt be known untill the real hearing. Problems, problems, problems....how come developer still thinks that the land is theirs, making us feel that squatters is a small issue for them, when court still doesnt decide whom the land belongs to.
August 28, 2008 at 3:21 PMAnonymous: why oh why didnt buyers check/clarify with developer before committing themselves?
August 28, 2008 at 4:37 PMAnonymous: anyone know what is the price difference in freehold and leasehold property?..
August 28, 2008 at 6:01 PMAnonymous: This calculation is for a reference, may not be accurate/outdated (DBKL procedure):

When a high rise converted to freehold, according to market standard sub-sale price speculated (according to gov. appointed license valuator) to appreciate by 25-30%. i.e. an rm100k high-rise condo rise to 125k, the local council (DBKL) will charge a premium of 20%(vary with cities) of the appreciation value (rm25k x 20%= 5k).

Therefore, the more price speculated to rise (i.e. the Spring), the more owner got to pay for conversion.
August 29, 2008 at 8:34 AMAnonymous: Anyone have the yesterday hearing update?
August 29, 2008 at 2:03 PMAnonymous: No hearing took place yesterday. Seems the hearing was suppose to have taken place on the 26th and it got postponed due to the public holiday. Anyway, i heard that the squatters lawyer has sent a letter to Nusmetro saying they want a bigger compensation and Nusmetro is waiting for the big boss to return to office next week to negotiate with the lawyer....Tats the update folks
September 2, 2008 at 9:46 PMServicing you To Achieve Financial Freedom - STAFF: Hi purchaser,

Plz check the below link from star metro dated 2 september 2008:-
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2008/9/2/north/1930985&sec=North

Nusmetro wil join The Star Property & Home Fair 2008 from 5 sept 2008 to 7 september.

What do you all think?
September 4, 2008 at 8:45 AMUnknown: Hi Owner,
Anybody would like to sell their unit?
My budget is below < RM300k...
September 5, 2008 at 2:54 PMPE: Hello,
Today in Property Fair :
A standard unit 1041sq feet at Block A selling at 326K with 1 car park.
Last time, early bird buyers only has to pay about RM280K with 2 car parks.
What a difference!
September 5, 2008 at 3:12 PMUnknown: Well, for those who did not sympathise with our anxiety last time, it is fine actually, we do not deserve sympathy any way. We should be more cautious and learned our lesson.

But, they are those who purposely spread fire of rumours to unsettle the buyers. Some are so cruel that they created false news in the blog like company run away, 10% deposit burnt, etc. Many buyers are emotionally affected and have sleepless nights. You can read through the blog to see all these cruel people. They can derive pleasure by creating other people’s agony.
To these cruel people, Please read this
• 1st -If you buy now, you have to pay extra RM30K at least and with limited choice of strategic & good unit. The good one, of course, we the first batch of buyers already bought. You have to pay more. So sorry to tell you that some of us still pay less compared to you even though we opted for 2 car parks (some more-side by side),due to early birds discount during launching.
Now, may be you regret not buying earlier like us.So, you are a loser!
• 2nd- Ok, as expected, you definitely will say I do not want to buy because you are not happy for having to pay more compared to us. Let’s say you purposely do not want to buy because you are offended.
• 3rd- Fine, alright, Let me tell you what will happen. A few more months, all the units will be taken up. At that moment, You will not find such a project in such a strategic location any more. Some more, do not say I did not remind you that this project is built on solid land and not on reclaimed land like many other new projects. Please Remember, if you have a choice to choose, by all means, avoid high rise built on reclaimed land. Let me tell you why: the piling technology or civil engineering standard of today does not cater for future possible more frequent earth movements due to earth quake. Our earth is getting sick.
• 4th- And suddenly you realised other projects even more expensive, cramped traffic access road, etc. You truly regret again, amid regret for the second time.So, you are a bigger loser!
• I do not intend to be sarcastic but just could not bear knowing they were people who posted nonsense here last time to laugh at people’s problems.
September 5, 2008 at 5:03 PMGeno: Glad to hear the price had increase. Right now just can't wait for the construction to start.
September 5, 2008 at 10:35 PMCereal Killa 2011: Hey Mr Yes, u talk as if oasis has managed to get itself out of the land issue! Has the courts ruled in favor of the developer? If not, its quite embarassing to even compare with other projects. And dont even talk about price increase when you dont even have legal rights to commence the project?! Sigh...
September 6, 2008 at 6:32 PMServicing you To Achieve Financial Freedom - STAFF: I just went to the Star Property fair.

According to the housing agent, 40% units have been sold.

Expected to build the condo around Oct 2008 or worst case end of the year 2008.

Land issue has been solved by both developer and squatter lawyers.

Unit from RM240k has been increased to RM280k
with 1 car park.

How true are these?

Btw...anyone know why they still can sell their units in Star property fair?
September 15, 2008 at 3:53 PMlydia: Any update from court? Still cont hearing?
September 16, 2008 at 11:22 AMlydia: Why suddenly Oasis blog quiet?? No news..
September 22, 2008 at 7:36 PMPalymra: Today went to Nusmetro office and the site for a survey. I think it is not worth the price Nusmetro is selling. Narrow road, land issue overhang....The agent said thet the settlers there will moved out end of this year. But when I told I am going to the site, he tell me not to listen to settlers (he said the settlers will tell me that they are not moving out). Sound conflicting, isn't it?
October 9, 2008 at 12:25 PMUnknown: Today STAR, 'High Chaparral' D-day Nov 19 decision for appeal over vacant possession..
October 10, 2008 at 12:33 AMServicing you To Achieve Financial Freedom - STAFF: Hi Wani,

Can you specify which page or in fact copy the link here, so that we can know the exact story?

Fyi...last week I went to the Oasis site and I see nothing different there. The coconut trees and the squatter houses are still there...oh my goodness...what the heck?

Nov 19 got another appeal for VP? My goodness? My 10%...
October 10, 2008 at 2:25 PMUnknown: The Star Thursday 9th Oct page N23..

must wait n wait again....
October 23, 2008 at 11:48 AMUnknown: What the status now? Why suddenly all buyer no comment? or they all already cancel n take their money back?
November 11, 2008 at 1:54 PMUnknown: Good day Guys, Yesterday was the court hearing and what was the outcome? Y this blog is so Quite????
November 11, 2008 at 2:56 PMUnknown: yesterday got hearing? i know on 19 nov got hearing.. How you got the information about the hearing yesterday? Can you update me..
November 11, 2008 at 8:17 PMUnknown: Oasis unable to built already, they lost in court case!
November 12, 2008 at 10:54 AMUnknown: :o its true?? where you get the information? That i know the hearing date is on 19 Nov 2008..
November 12, 2008 at 11:37 AMUnknown: yesterday newspaper kwongwah and kwongming.
November 12, 2008 at 11:52 AMgwsc: 发展商上诉遭驳回　豆蔻村暂不必搬空
二零零八年十一月十一日凌晨十二时五分

（槟城10日讯）槟城高庭今日驳回发展商申请搬空豆蔻村庭令的上诉，换言之，豆蔻村内约80户人家可暂时不必被迫搬空！

槟州政府官员合作社（Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Negeri Pulau Pinang）及发展商Nusmetro Ventures私人有限公司，曾于今年3月联合入禀高庭，申请搬空豆蔻村庭令，惟，这项申请已于5月22日被槟城高庭驳回；诉方较后向法庭提出上诉。

负责承审这起上诉案的法官约翰鲁易斯，周一基于两项主要理由，宣布驳回有关上诉，并谕令诉方承担所有堂费。

约翰鲁易斯宣读判词时称，目前仍没有任何证据能够证明，槟州政府（国阵执政时期）曾向联邦政府购买该片占地6.5英亩的地段。“更何况，现有的证据似乎表明，有关土地仍然属于联邦土地委员。”

此外，针对槟州政府官员合作社及发展商，形容当地居民是“占用别人土地的人”（squatters），约翰鲁易斯说，这个村落已拥有悠久的历史，许多村民的祖先在上个世纪前已在当地居住。

“倘若法庭在确定居民是否真的非法居住前，即批准搬空令的话，必定造成严重的影响。”

王康良律师（译音）今日代表槟州政府官员合作社及发展商出庭，豆蔻村居民方面，则由法律援助局的3名律师雷耶、西赛尔及阿玛惹申代表。
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2008/11/11/9.html
November 12, 2008 at 12:24 PMTik Liang: My god.....Oasis gone la...
November 12, 2008 at 8:07 PMUnknown: please refer to our lawyer for further details
November 12, 2008 at 8:09 PMUnknown: can we go to the office and ask for refund?
November 14, 2008 at 11:55 AMUnknown: How you all know about this? The next hearing is on 19 Nov..
November 15, 2008 at 7:14 AMUnknown: Did you all go to ask nusmetro what happen for the next? I'm concern whether they are able to settle the issues.

Between I think in future I will not trust Henry Butcher anymore! Because of the brand name henry butcher as marketing agent for Oasis, I bought oasis. I think they are not professional enough to make a study about the land title and those releated issues. I have review through the website eventhough in 2007 http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2007/09/09/114.html, before Oasis official launch, they already have some news about it. Why Henry Butcher still become the agent for nusmetro? Either they are not doing homework well or they have intention to cheat the buyer?
November 15, 2008 at 12:49 PMUnknown: got a few issue about this henry butcher agent.. They a lier coz in Surin also they cheated ppl after that Bolton stop their contract..alots of complaint abou them.. But i also curious, why Numestro can get Permit No. for their project? They didnt check about land title.. Who allow all this permission?
November 15, 2008 at 12:58 PMUnknown: buyer,i agree with u.i will band hengry bucther and nusmetro ever forever.they make me so disapointed.go their office,but i get the stupic answer..no is no answer.i totally loss confident with them..
November 15, 2008 at 1:00 PMGreg: Henry Butcher is an appointed marketing agent of the project, of course will try to glamourize the project as perfect as possible. Sometimes in marketing sense, business is putting on top of anything else, including reputation. Similarly like they've tried to promote Times Square together with a "not even built" LRT. The salesperson even 100% guarantee me LRT station will be built, as if they're the one who built it. But now LRT project not taking off at all. They were always take advantage of slight glimpse of hope. This is called "sales talk".
November 15, 2008 at 1:27 PMPositionT: When I enquired about Numestro project at one of the past property fair, thru HB agency, i purpose test their professionalism (bad of me, hihi)by asking the land issue update. Surprisingly, they told me already settled, simple and clear. Lazy to probe further since knowing their intention is merely to make sale and get commission regardless the outcome of the hard earn money of the buyers.

Since they get commission, typically 2-3% from developer for every sale they make, wondering if developer will refund the buyer in full once sale cancelled...
November 15, 2008 at 5:47 PMUnknown: If sale is cancel, I already ask my lawyer I think for those who sign the agreement will be protected. We offcourse can get 100% refund. By the way I don't think it look good, I have ask them what will be the next, they told me temporary will stop everything untill they settle the squatters.

I ask them since nusmetro lose court case, how oasis can be build? They just cannot give me an answer. For me, I told them within 2 momths untill end of December they are not able to settle the issues, I will ask my lawyer to issue Lawyer letter and we have a right to get refund, since they are running out of schedule. They told me they need 22 months to complete the project but end of december, they only left 24 months by how they can complete?

By the way, they keep on loosing the money for court, politician "kopi", squatter issues and those material still stuck in their gudang, I doubt with sales currently they have (40%), how they afford to keep on loosing the money???

Between empower what will be the answer from them?
November 15, 2008 at 6:04 PMUnknown: For my info, intially Koperasi and nusmetero is not yet getting the land title, and because they think they will get the land since BN will not lose in election. BN will help them to get the land, mana tahu DAP win in penang. Karpal sign (which now onwards I hate this guy and I promise if he don't settle our buyer right, I will not vote for him next time onwards) protect their Indians and make those project stuck.

Last time, I have colleague who stay there and ask what happen, although nusmetro want to settle the issues by paying them a 75K or 90k cash,Karpal sign actually inform them they can ask for more i.e. Banglo and etc. This guy mengapi api them and say they will win the court case. Now see la what happen to our house. Karpal say there will be fare for all races but now? Indians only?

By the way I hope DAP still mature in politic enough which can consider to let the project run successfull and the place can be develop well. It must looking for win win situation where the squatters get the correct compensation (not banglo and those impossible compensation) as at the same time the place can be develop. I'm wondering the house and living standard currently in that place is quite low, why not to let developer develop those area. In this case both are in win win situation where the peoples in that place also can enjoy more higher living standard.

I wish OASIS still can be continue.
November 16, 2008 at 1:38 AMGreg: Buyer,
I think your comment is not rational and quite bias. Instead of try to find the right fact, you bark at the wrong tree. Blame everything on Karpal Singh? State govt? and even Indian? In the first place, it's Numestro and previous BN govt who screw up the whole things. Not follow proper procedure on land acqusition. Think everything can bulldoze thru the back door with their so called "good connection" with BN govt as usual practice. That's the reason the court rules against them.

Don't be so narrow minded and racist. Becos of things not going yr way, you try to find others to blame.
No one like to witness an abandone or delay project. But think first, why Oasis was launched even before land issue get resolved. Why Numestro sell the apt to you and those involved? Is it becos of Karpal Singh? State govt? Indian? Take a deep thought before vent yr angers on others.
November 16, 2008 at 6:52 PMUnknown: mutiara
I just blame Karpal not the others, please read carefully. Since I say the developer want to settle with those resident, why Karpal go to mengapi - api those people? Let settle in win - win situation. As I know Nusmetro and Koperasi willing to pay those resident and not destroy their house without compensation. Those request for banglo and so on is not totally not rational as their house is "atap" house not banglo.

Offcouse nusmetro and HB is the main culprit for this issues. For this I already highlighted previously.

Besides, my last coment just want to highlight that only those no vision goverment/ politician don't want the development in their area. If those politician think twice, the living standard in that place is very low, eventhough my colleague house, he need to place some bottle in his house during raining. He previously have say that if he get a new house, he will be very happy but since majority peoples refuse he have to follow as well.
For this case, think in future, those area is use for highway, road, power station and etc. The resident will definately need move up with very low compensation (according to akta pengambilan tanah). Why not take this opportunity to get corrected compensation and improve their living standard?

Since this issues already happen, besides blamming the developer (offcourse they should be blame), but most important is to find a solution. My concern for this are if you are manage to get back your 10%, do you able to find the same standard apartment as per previous price? I think it will be 20%++ increase.
November 16, 2008 at 10:56 PMUnknown: UDA also have similar project in Warisan Tanjung, it's a 1-to-1 replacement for low cost flat. In return, UDA get a piece land at Tanjung West for development high end property. 75k-90k from Numestro to each squatters? Financially, it doesn't make sense at all. A low cost flat only cost 42k, why Numestro management paid double? Definitely something fishy behind, that's why the court ruled against them. As Mutiara named it "lorong belakang" , should not encourage this practice, what’s wrong have to be corrected. I really don't wanna see our new people oriented government trading in our next generation assets just for very few benefits, include those squatters, buyer, developers etc (it's a win-lose indeed). Just bite the bullet. After all, back to basic: risk and return.

And to "Buyer", you sound like present when Karpal Sign mengapi-apikan his Indian fellows... What else he said other than the ridiculous bungalow stuff? You must have known Indian language very well har... Or you are relative to Numestro’s CEO, know the figures so well… Good of you
November 17, 2008 at 1:03 AMUnknown: True_Voice_Die_Hard
I already tell the story before, my colleague who is living there and if you don't believe you actually can visit those area and ask for opinion. See how many is request for banglo. From normal conversation with colleague, knowing that some of them is wish for banglo or more compensation.

By the way I'm wondering how long you stay in tempurung already? Recently there will be no such 42K low cost flat in Penang, what I means for the new project. The most cheaper appointed by government also cost around 50K which is pass 1 year before.

If the house build by private, at least it would be 75K onwards and several medium low cost flat i.e. in BL Avenue develop by Reka Indah cost aroung 90K onwards. That is what I mean for those compensation. This mean it is medium low cost flat which will be compensate by developer.

See the fact in http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2007/09/09/114.html
据了解，发展商所开出的条件是赔偿居民一间价值7万5000令吉的中价屋，或9万令吉赔偿。然而，这却不获村民所接受。
November 17, 2008 at 10:49 AMUnknown: Buyer,

Check your fact before pen down your comment.
Nothing much to comment on your view about The Oasis or whoever as you have the right to voice out your comment, be it positive or negative.

However, please note that there is still RM42k low cost flat in Penang.. at present time.

Thus, your frustration to "mutiara" & "true_voice_die_hard" does not justify.
November 17, 2008 at 11:30 AMUnknown: Big tips for you, check with PDC , latest low cost project, Halaman Kenanga by PDC, to be opened for registration, 42k, buy one if you're qualified with your Oasis refund $! MOH so far not passing any new housing law to allow developer raise low cost in Penang beyond 42k . In some other states like the one I developing, only 35k for LC landed property ok?!

Industry practice is to replace squatters with Low Cost flat, wondering what's in the mind of Numestro management to offer low-medium cost flat instead at the first place, do you know? Guess you don't. First things come to my mind, how big is the land and what is the volume of the squatters, and how much they're actually paying for the troubled land during BN goverment? Can you answer these? I know a fellow developer using name of state EXCO to get a land at RM1 psf, and then compensate squatters, making windfall profit just by the land itself. So, you call this a win-win? Don't be so shallow, speak too much with knowing less is dangerous.
November 17, 2008 at 3:26 PMUnknown: True_Voice_Die_Hard

I wondering you are able to read chinese properly? The info you want is already in paper before where i post on previous blog.

1.First things come to my mind, how big is the land
豆蔻村占地6.5英亩
2. what is the volume of the squatter
共住有33户木屋居民。除了6户为马来人外，其余皆为印裔人士。在是次的拆屋行动中，受影响者多达440人
村內共有29間屋子，約80個家庭
3. How much they're actually paying for the troubled land during BN goverment
Nusmetro and Koperasi pay 3.2 million to BN, and 3.2 million to compensate those resident as per previous agreement.
http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/31567?tid=4
由於涉及發展計劃，有關640萬令吉售價一半的320萬令吉，其實是作為荳蔻村33戶人家的補償費

3.2 million / 33 = (90K ++) This come to the figure for those compensation to squatters.

For me I know, you are not knowing the fact by just simply say 42k low cost compesation? Please make homework before showing your tempurung knowledge.

I agree your last sentence where it is quite situable for you, haha, "Don't be so shallow, speak too much with knowing less is dangerous". That y it come to Katak tempurung.
November 17, 2008 at 5:50 PMUnknown: Good day eveyone especially to mr.BUYER...

Buyer i think u're mentality is as good as a cow. U don't even know the facts well.. That land where Oasis's going to come up is a federal land.Infact the entire area of Jln Bunga raya is a federal land. This was only discovered after the 10th of Nov 2008 ( after the court hearing, Lot698). The previous state govt. has taken the land illegally and listed it out for 99 yrs. same thing goes to Buah Pala. The previous state govt. made it to TOL for the Kg. people. Mind u they are not Squatters, they were paying tol according to per sq feet like the list hold owners. As for u, if some one take your land illegally would u keep quite? Morever this has nothing to do with the current state govt. and this people are clearing the SHIT which was left by the previous state govt, and what's your problem with Indians anyway? Why in the world u're so sellfish. Don't bark at the wrong tree. U need to go after HButcher and the 5 dollars company NMetro and not YB Karpal Singh!!! Go and ask them questions see what kind of answers u will get....
November 17, 2008 at 6:02 PMUnknown: RM320k for 6.5 acres (1 acre = 43560 sq.ft)

320k/(6.5x43560)= RM1.13 psf.

Wondering you know how much Numestro pay for the land? Typically get way under the market value. If that is the case, this project only benefits the squatters, very few of greedy buyer like "Buyer", developer and ex-politicians. Who lose? Million of Penang people.

I don't put my pride on this argument and I have nothing to lose. Name calling is only for loser.

Another thing I can assure you, typically the refund won't be 100% once sale cancelled. And certainly no refund of legal fee paid.

Good luck.
November 18, 2008 at 10:18 AMTik Liang: Ya. That is true.

Don't put the blames on current state gov or YB Karpal.

It is all the previous state gov and the Numestro faults. You should have scolded at them instead.

The previous gov has caused a massive problems to penangites. They should gone for good and stop 'barking' in the BN controlled newspaper.
November 18, 2008 at 11:41 AMJry: To Buyer

Personally I feel that 90k compensation per household is acceptable but if you change abother view to look at the number of people per household then the cmpesantion is totally unaccepatble (440 people/33 household = 13.3). Just ask yourself, how many people can fit into a low-cost flat?

To True_Voice_Die_Hard

Is your calculation correct? I think it should be 3.2 million/(6.5x43560) right, so should it be 11.3psf?
November 18, 2008 at 12:14 PMUnknown: Jry,

You are right, wrong calculation there, my mistake, sorry for that. RM11.3 psf + land purchase price psf = >RM60 psf?

Agreed with your calculation, what can the squatter family get with 75-90k? New LC at 42k or sub-sale LC at 90k++. They have to top up for medium-low cost flat bcs MLC apartment already above 120k for old one, while new one easily start from 150k.

LC area normally ~700sq.ft or smaller, 2-3 bedrooms, how to accomodate 13 people?
November 19, 2008 at 3:52 AMUnknown: To JRY

Your calculation seems reasonable.

However if you looking for current situation, how currently 440 people can feed in 33 household in that place?
November 24, 2008 at 10:34 AMUnknown: So now its true the Nusmetro cancel their project??
November 26, 2008 at 10:44 AMUnknown: 3weeks ago i did send mail to YB R.S.N Rayer (A.D.U.N Seri Delima)(DAP lawyer who helping the resident of Kampung Kastam on Oasis case) to ask for his help and advice for the buyers to get back the deposit, after 1week do you know what the reply i get??

His assistant reply me as below :
"We are still actively pursuing this matter in court.
This matter may drag for some time due to purchasers' negligence of not checking the land ownership before paying the deposit.
We will try our best to get justice for rakyat .

Thank you,

S.N.Mahendran
- On behalf of YB R.S.N. Rayer"

Aftet this i did send mail to follow up but until now thats no reply at all. Seems that they are trying to kick the ball back to us....
Any of you have any experice or idea to share for the situation you in now?

You can get his email thru his blog : http://rsnrayer.blogspot.com/
November 26, 2008 at 1:50 PMUnknown: Hi,I too sent an email to RSN Rayer and received the SAME reply[word by word, exactly the same].Called up YB Mr. Wong Hon Wai who is in charge of Town and County Planning
Housing but couldnt get in touch with him.Here are his details. Lets all brainstorm together on what actions we can take now. We need to know whether this project is really going to take off as soon as possible so that we can work towards getting back our deposit.
Let me know if you want to go and meet up with one of these excos so that we can go together.

(P) 04-2610763 / 04-6505138

Fax: 04-2618704
wonghonwai@penang.gov.my
November 26, 2008 at 11:45 PMAnonymous: Hi

Actually I did try send an email to our YAB Lim Guan Eng in order to find the right person to talk to, and I got a reply from his political secretary, Ng wei Aik. Please find he reply as below.

He wrote:
For your info, the project is pending court proceeding and it may be dragged for quite some time. Thank you.

Ng Wei Aik
November 27, 2008 at 7:01 AMGeno: Understand from developer that YAB Lim Guan Eng was there during the court hearing. Not sure how true is the information from developer.

Sound like the respond from our YAB and YB is just to pushed the responsibility to court hearing. I don't believed they does not have expected outcome in mind.

I don't mind their outcome is to support those staying over there, but also help out those buyers which also a victim.

The first respond from YB is kind of no win-win situation in mind. What do you expect purchaser to do before buy? Development permit approved, land title transfer done and etc.

Either the land transfer being done by previous/current state government, to me it's still Penang government. Whatever issue in thier current/previous administration issue, should not transfer to us. Just my 2cent input.
November 27, 2008 at 8:37 AMUnknown: Has anyone found out how we can refund back the money? When i asked the developer directly,they told me they wont refund back the money yet unless they officially cancel the project. My lawyer too mentioned that as per the agreement, they are only deemed to provide the completed property to us after 3 years [counted from the date we signed our SMP].
Can those who managed to refund the deposit share with all on how it was done?
November 27, 2008 at 11:11 AMgwsc: to Oasis and Manish,
even if they have expected outcome in mind, you really can't do anything before the official court decision.
November 27, 2008 at 2:13 PMGreg: Oasis buyers,
Under such circumstances, usually it's more effective to form a group and collectively agree on common ground/action to tackle the issue, rather than act individually. Imagine, if 100 or even 50 buyers each send a letter to the authority, and each of the buyers have different grounds in terms of compensation, resolution, expectation and etc. How do you expect the authorities help you.

gwsc maybe right, not even PM or CM can intervene since the case has already referred to court for arbitaration.

Another option is to write to HBA(House Buyers Association) for advice (refer their website for contacts: www.hba.org.my). I've met and spoken to HBA's Sec. Gen. Mr Chang last few years when he visited Penang, seek his advice on certain housing issue, he is a very helpful and knowledgable person on housing issue, should be able to provide some advice on the case. But again would suggest at least all of you make an effort to form a group first, before refer to HBA for advice.

Hope the above helps.
November 30, 2008 at 5:53 PMP: the project already on hold and stop???
December 15, 2008 at 2:26 PMAnonymous: Good day guys, hmmm what's the latest issue on OASIS???? Any updates????
December 15, 2008 at 2:46 PMP: No New mean bad New...still in court case...
December 19, 2008 at 5:01 PMAnonymous: Is the project been on halt?or canceled already?
December 21, 2008 at 11:46 PMAnonymous: This problem will resolve if the development willing to give 1 units of condos for each family.
December 22, 2008 at 10:28 AMAnonymous: How to get our deposit for refund? Very disappointing of this developer.....
December 23, 2008 at 5:13 PMAnonymous: Good day guys, I still don't understand what u guy's are talking? It's already proven that the entire Lot 698 Bukit Glugor is a Federal Land, What compensation are u people talking about??? This land has been trasfered illegally, how in the world is the Developer going to Develop Oasis???? Go and see the NM and HB for the REFUND...... Preasure them, form a independant team to chase them.
December 24, 2008 at 11:28 AMAnonymous: Also it seems, Mrs Brown who gave the land to the government previously has clearly written in the documents that she wants the land to be occupied by the Indian residents and nobody can pressure them to move out unwillingly. Well, we all have to digest that there is noway Nusmetro can develop OASIS in that piece of land unless the land is volenterily vacated by the current resident. On top of this, we have the issue of land transfer as mentioned by prebvios commenter above. The non-owner of the land had transfered the land to Nusmetro!
December 25, 2008 at 11:22 PMAnonymous: To both anonymous above,
May I know where to get those source that you have just post? I really want to be sure of that before i ask for my refund back.
December 26, 2008 at 2:21 PMAnonymous: Developer side:
Still discuss with state...Not sure...maybe next year around March...

Panel Banker side:
If you want to cancel, yes I can help you. But, we have approved you previously. We just help you cancel but not reject you. The 10% downpayment you have to check with your developer/lawyer...

Panel Lawyer side:
Unless you have loan reject letter, I can't help you to ask Developer to refund you 9% according to S&P.

Outside laywer side:
Pretty sure case...36 months as stated in S&P.

I dunno how to refund now...no justification...Can somebody share out the method to refund?
December 28, 2008 at 1:04 AMAnonymous: I got some idea .Wanna get refund you can try to go to low claim court at argaa road.They will help get back your money .

_real_info_
December 29, 2008 at 4:54 PMAnonymous: Hi _real_info_,

Are you able to refund by the way?
December 30, 2008 at 8:54 PMAnonymous: Oasis buyers...

Let us form a group together to solve the issue. I am trying to write an email to our PM, but i need all of you to support. Please post up your email so that i can keep you in the loop for the email. Comon let us gather up!
December 30, 2008 at 9:30 PMAnonymous: Finaly, somebody start to take advice. A good start for 2009.
January 2, 2009 at 1:00 PMAnonymous: No point to send in letter to PM, it will not solve this problem.

Better group together and try to get refund for developer.
January 2, 2009 at 3:16 PMAnonymous: Dunno whether the project will kick off or not eventually but state goverment should seriously look into relocating this so called High Chaparral thing or do something instead of washing hands clean while at the same time politicking behind the scene to garner future votes. The whole scene has created nothing but bullshits, one after another, from many parties involved. Literally bullshits (as in cow dung) are all over surrounding areas (Island Glades, Kpg Kastam, Jln. Yeap Chor Ee & Jln. Bkt Gambir) now as we speak, thanks to the cattles left roaming about aimlessly daily. Mark my words, with the cattles on the road daily, it's just a matter of time before the situation generates into a fatal accident, either at the cost of a human or cattle's life. I have had few close calls with them bumping into my car while on the road. Recently I got trapped at Hamid Khan School & I told the cowherd off for being inconsiderate, jamming up whole road with his cattles. Instead of apologizing or quickly herding them to the side to clear a lane, he has the cheek to finger me while my daughter was in the car with me at that time. God knows how many times I have to endure this since residing in this area. Yesterday was at Jln. Bkt. Gambir, causing a long jam which lasted few long precious minutes. Cowherd was nowhere to be seen. State govt should offer them a place with suitable grazing ground somewhere in Balik Pulau which is more suitable for raising cattles instead. Another good reason to relocate the cattle ranch is how the so called High Chaparral ranchers are polluting the stream located just next to the "ranch". I have witnessed how they hosed every drop of shit into the stream (which runs directly behind the newly constructed Kpg Kastam apartments) when cleaning the cattle pen. Once a Singaporean friend who witnessed all this found it disgusting yet amusing that such scenes can still be found in a well & long developed residential area. I agree with her whole heartedly. Relocation far far away from this area should be a win-win situation for all parties concerned. This so called High Chaparral ranchers act like the world owes them big time & it's their right to do what they like on public roads not to mention trespassing into private properties for their cattles to graze. Enough is enough.....
January 2, 2009 at 4:18 PMUnknown: hi,
my i am esther 1 of the purchaser..so when u all get a group pls infrom me my email esther_thor@hotmail.com i sure attent..i really dispointed with the developer and henry buthcer..i wont belive both of them...pls let me know ok...thanks
January 3, 2009 at 7:25 PMAnonymous: You may choose to continue to grumbling here but would still advise all Oasis buyers quickly form a group to discuss action to be taken and start negotiate with the developer. This is your property and hard earn money, no point continue to blame this and that, at the end no practical action taken. In fact, should blame yrselves for not taking any action until now, no one will help you all, if yrselves also din make an effort to help yrselves.
January 4, 2009 at 9:16 PMAnonymous: I heard that got someone requests for the refund by discussing with developer...The purchaser has to redraft new cancellation agreement and developer will sign it...Does anyone using this method to refund or any other method to refund?

-Puzzling purchaser-
January 5, 2009 at 5:14 PMPositionT: Never heard of it, but could be good if developer has the good will to refund. Suggest to engage one lawyer to represent you all to draft and execute the agreement and make sure it is legitimate. Don't use developer panel lawyer, conflict of interest. Won't cost you more than few hundreds per head... especially when this is in bulk. Safe guard yourself first under whatever circumstance, legal procedure tends to be very tricky.
January 6, 2009 at 8:44 AMAnonymous: I think some of the people's just simply say refund, how easily you can get refund once you have sign the SPA. I have get a consultation of my lawyer (not the panel lawyer), base on SPA, you are not able to get your 10% refund within this 3 years, after 36 months base on SPA, if the project delay the developer will pay you an interest but according to lawyer, it is possible to get refund (at least he say that he manage to do it before) if developer fails to hand over vacant possession. The only loss from us will be the lawyer fees for bank and developer which cost nearly 6K.
For some instance, the lawyer have explain to me some Akta i.e. Akta perlindungan pembeli rumah, Akta Pemaju Perumahan and etc. I don't think you all have interested to Akta 599, Akta 118 and so on.For more detail explaination, you can go to http://www.kpkt.gov.my/artikel/perumahan/index.html to have more clearer picture regarding this.
As short summary whatever we can do since we are the one who already sign the SPA as below (as advise from lawyer)
1. Ask your lawyer to give a letter to your finance institution (your bank), in order to stop any progress payment before those issues is settled and the certification from the developer’s of progress of construction is the must before release another payment. This is to ensure that the claim is genuine. It will be easier if you assign a lawyer to expedite the progress of transferring mortgage ownership from time to time to ensure the loan payment are made according to the progress. The above steps is to ensure you will avoid you to loss more.
2. For those who have sign SPA, please visit the site http://www.kpkt.gov.my/artikel/perumahan/index1.html
Siri 5 : Tanggungjawab dan Peranan Pembeli and
Siri 6 : Cara Membuat Tuntutan
3. Keep pressure to developer by frequently to visit them and ask for status. If someone have write a complain to housing enforcement division show them a detail, this will make them eagerly hunt for solution. I have show them regarding my lawyer letter on frozen progressive payment and complain letter, they seem little nervous and if bunch of buyers doing the same they will be more nervous.
I have saw someone send the email to Rayers and get the reply with (the purchaser's negligence of not checking the ownership before paying the deposit). This for me is "tahi jantan lembu", I have checking all the status of the developer, including the valid housing developers license, permits for advertisement and sale permit from the Ministry of Housing. In the same time, I have check with Land office regarding the ownership of the Land, the previous record show it is belong to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang where it is approve and sold from old state government. The funny for the reply, eventhough there are not sure for the land ownership and try to prove it is illegal land transfer from old government to Koperasi with several court hearing. For us as buyer, those information obtain from land office is enough and solid to make up our mind, do you think we are able to know it is illegal transfer from government? This will be the similar case where Perak current government change the land title to free hold and in future if DAP/PKR/PAS lose in the election, the new government (eventhough Najib now) announce it is illegal methods from old government. How will be the suffer for us as buyer, for their politic fighting.
Last but not least, the advice for those who sign the SPA, we must be patient and do what we can do as mention above for 36 months. It will be nice, if Oasis can build with original proposal + schedule, otherwise just claim your deposit back after 36 months. Please don’t so stupid to cancel your SPA and loss your down payment, the most important is to frozen your progressive payment and let your trusted and appointed lawyer to handle it for you. Finally if we are able to get back what we should get, and prevent further loses, we should thanks to god and it will be nice if we can donate some food/ shirt and etc to those who actually need help (example http://www.guangming.com.my/taxonomy/term/10 ).
January 6, 2009 at 12:46 PMAnonymous: Thanks property investor, you good sharing.
Now i know what to do.
January 6, 2009 at 4:00 PMAnonymous: Long story short, the conclusion is: WAIT. The longer you wait, the less lost you suffer. Imagine a 10% cool hard cash deposit, sitting in developer HDA, zero interest. If 36 months later, developer failed to build, I get part of my deposit after paying legal, bank etc etc...

Any better suggestion?
January 7, 2009 at 9:11 AMAnonymous: FYI. If developer able to get the vacant procession they plan to use full semen 'lego type' for this project, they said this will shorten 3months construction time, and this process is more expensive compare use brick, but we unable to conceal the wiring.
January 7, 2009 at 3:04 PMAnonymous: Let say I have bought a car after I have the loan approval letter. Somemore my partner doesn't have jobs and we are unable to pay back. Then, is it possible that we call the bank to issue loan decline letter to us and what is the impact, will we get blacklisted?
March 4, 2009 at 10:55 PMUnknown: dear all, where is tis project, i cant find any billboard.and i heard rumous said that developer still can't get DLAP.are u all get the S&P already? 10% downpayment pay to lawyer or developer? after change of local goverment, i dont think this project will sail smoothly. pls note, am not fm oths developer, but just concern u guys cause is hard earn money. pls check fm the developer.TQ
March 13, 2009 at 5:21 PMGeno: Heard we could do refund. Anyone aware of this?
April 4, 2009 at 6:09 AMWH: how about this project? no more people care about it?
April 10, 2009 at 9:17 PMBK: No more Oasis for Penang. I went there during the launch day, so many people went up and down to see the showroom. And many orange stickers already put up to indicate units booked. Not many units left when I went there at noon. Since Nusmetro keep mentioning project is still ON again and again, and failed again and again. I really hope the buyers can unite and claim back their downpayment. Good luck.
April 11, 2009 at 12:11 AMUnknown: so quiet here.... has people given up on both the condo & the refund??
April 11, 2009 at 10:51 PMUnknown: I got a friend who manage to get his refund of 10% downpayment back but lost the lawyer fee
April 14, 2009 at 11:10 AMPeter: Really can get back 10%?
Nusmetro didnt say anything?

Please advise on the procedure on how to get back the refund.

Sorry for asking a stupid question.
April 14, 2009 at 11:28 AMGeno: I'm happy with Nusmetro. I got refund for what I had paid except all the legal fees. Just go to the office and request form for refund. It will take around 2 weeks for the processing. You will need to handle them your original receipt and S&P.

Not sure how true is this. If you continue to wait and if Nusmetro decide to cancel, they will refund the legal fees for you. Please double confirm.
April 15, 2009 at 10:30 PMBK: They might want to prepare for more withdrawal forms. Later say no more form bla bla bla...
April 26, 2009 at 4:54 PMUnknown: I managed to get my 10% refunded back as well.

Just went to their office and ask for cancellation and refund. They will ask u to fill up a form and wait for 2 weeks.
April 29, 2009 at 12:39 PMSLG: This project is pending for court case or has been cancelled?
April 29, 2009 at 10:06 PMGeno: Never heard about cancellation. There will be hearing in May 09.
May 11, 2009 at 8:46 AMSmile: I saw the big banner which hanging on the Nusmetro building was gone when I passed by the coastal highway. Any news?
May 11, 2009 at 1:11 PMUnknown: i just call to thier office to ask ..stil din have any news yet,and ask for the banner,they say thier banner lesen have been expired,so need to take off.ask to to call back on wenday..duno is true or not...
May 11, 2009 at 1:14 PMUnknown: now i totaly loss confident for this project.just hope to get back the deposit and the lawyer fee,,,just all...
May 11, 2009 at 3:42 PMUnknown: just receive a news.that developer win the course case.but futhure detail duno?it might be delay or apear again?any one have detail pls ..infrom...
May 15, 2009 at 10:47 AMpenangproperty: Received my 10% refund last week. Lawyer fees were forfeited. Very disappointed with Nusmetro and Henry Butcher. They should not launch this project in the first place before obtaining the land title. I totally lost confidence to both of these companies. This would be the first and last property I would buy from Nusmetro. Also I will be more cautious in dealing with Henry Butcher in future because I don't think it is very professional in promoting properties for is clients.
May 15, 2009 at 6:24 PMUnknown: i agree with u.i disapointed with both of them.but the moment now..what can we do...actualy i hope that the project failed.i din withdraw because i though to wait the court case finish then i will get back the 10% and lawyer fee n interest..but now they won..how..?continue waiting the project?signnnnnnnnnnnnn
May 15, 2009 at 10:03 PMGeno: Taught now they won the court case should be good news for those not decide to refund? Maybe could called up Mr Lee for further details..
May 20, 2009 at 10:12 AMpenangproperty: Won the court case in what sense??? I learned a very good lesson from Nusmetro. They did not provide u detailed information. So when they declared they wont the court case, what did they mean? They can build the project any time soon? It is totally clear the land title belongs to Nusmetro now? Any documents to prove that? Bcos u do not want them to build the condo now.......... and when it is waiting for OC, another court case comes out? Then u will be in deep shit. My two cents advice is......get everything in black and white.......... ask for a copy of documents to proove that what they claim is real..........lawyer fees is nothing. As long as u can get the 10% deposit back........ it's good enuf. If the 10% deposit is 30K, u could have invested it somewhere else 1 1/2 yr ago and get a good return by now. So don't wait just bcos of the lawyer fees........ might as well use the deposit and look for other properties. Like I said before, I don't trust what Nusmetro and Henry Butcher claim now, unless the provide me detailed documents.............
June 7, 2009 at 8:53 AMWH: Previous update for this apartment history.

[北马新闻] 发展商上诉遭驳回　豆蔻村暂不必搬空 2008-11-11 00:05:29
（槟城10日讯）槟城高庭今日驳回发展商申请搬空豆蔻村庭令的上诉，换言之，豆蔻村内约80户人家可暂时不必被迫搬空！
[北马新闻] 豆蔻村居民被逼迁案　诉讼与上诉案911同日审 2008-06-12 23:57:22
（槟城12日讯）豆蔻村居民申请庭令禁止发展商拆屋一案今日过堂，法官将此案展延至9月11日，与发展商的上诉案同日审讯。
[北马新闻] 豆蔻村6.5依格的地段疑非法转入槟公务员合作社 2008-04-27 23:35:28
(槟城27日讯)槟州土地舞弊案又一宗？武吉牛汝莪国会议员加巴星周日在雷尔律师及拉文律师陪同下揭露在其选区一块土地在不合法的情况下从房屋信托
[北马新闻] 豆蔻村木屋面对拆除　卡巴星坐轮椅巡视·将向首相反映 2007-09-09 23:49:47
（槟城9日讯）牛汝莪国会议员卡巴星车祸后，首次坐着轮椅巡视选区，着手处理豆蔻村33间木屋面对拆除的问题。
June 7, 2009 at 8:55 AMWH: Previous update for this project until today.
I saw news paper again the developer had won the case again...

[北马新闻] 发展商上诉遭驳回　豆蔻村暂不必搬空 2008-11-11 00:05:29
（槟城10日讯）槟城高庭今日驳回发展商申请搬空豆蔻村庭令的上诉，换言之，豆蔻村内约80户人家可暂时不必被迫搬空！
[北马新闻] 豆蔻村居民被逼迁案　诉讼与上诉案911同日审 2008-06-12 23:57:22
（槟城12日讯）豆蔻村居民申请庭令禁止发展商拆屋一案今日过堂，法官将此案展延至9月11日，与发展商的上诉案同日审讯。
[北马新闻] 豆蔻村6.5依格的地段疑非法转入槟公务员合作社 2008-04-27 23:35:28
(槟城27日讯)槟州土地舞弊案又一宗？武吉牛汝莪国会议员加巴星周日在雷尔律师及拉文律师陪同下揭露在其选区一块土地在不合法的情况下从房屋信托
[北马新闻] 豆蔻村木屋面对拆除　卡巴星坐轮椅巡视·将向首相反映 2007-09-09 23:49:47
（槟城9日讯）牛汝莪国会议员卡巴星车祸后，首次坐着轮椅巡视选区，着手处理豆蔻村33间木屋面对拆除的问题。
June 7, 2009 at 8:59 AMWH: when i saw the news... i feel very sad.
poor people always push around.
you should think twice what side you to choice... a dream house or a history land to keep for our future.
June 11, 2009 at 1:53 PMYeoh: Latest news from The Star.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/6/11/nation/4092469&sec=nation
June 11, 2009 at 1:54 PMYeoh: Thursday June 11, 2009

Solve High Chaparral dispute, developers told
By ANDREA FILMER

GEORGE TOWN: The state government has warned the developers of a 2.6ha land in Kampung Buah Pala here not to come with bulldozers today – the deadline given by the Court of Appeal for the residents to vacate the land.

Instead, Deputy Chief Minister II Dr P. Ramasamy has asked Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd and Nusmetro Ventures (P) Sdn Bhd to come up with an amiable solution to the dispute.

“The developers should understand that we are not a lame duck government which will wait and see things that are not proper happening before our eyes.

“They should understand that while the state is not able to interfere with the due process, there are lots of things that we can do,” Dr Ramasamy told a press conference at Komtar yesterday.

On May 11, the Court of Appeal ruled in favour of the cooperative and developer seeking vacant possession of the land occupied by 23 cattle-rearing families in Lorong Buah Pala.

The latest development follows a longstanding dispute over the land, known as “High Chaparral”, between the developers and the villagers who claim that Indian immigrants working in estates under British colonial rule established the village more than 100 years ago.

The village, opposite Recsam in Gelugor, derives its name from a 60s television cowboy series.

There had been tense situations in April and June last year when the developers tried to transport building materials into the village and threatened to demolish the houses.

Dr Ramasamy said the state had made efforts to reach out to the developer through state executive councillor Abdul Malik Abul Kassim and hoped that a win-win situation could be accomplished.

“I believe the developer will come to his senses so that court order or no court order, this matter can be settled amicably. If he is right-thinking and wants to do business in Penang, stop all this bullying and bulldozing.

“Don’t forget, assuming that you bulldoze and clear the residents, what are you going to put up there? Who gives the approval?” Dr Ramasamy warned.

When pointed out by the press that the developer had already obtained approval from the local government for the 740-unit low-medium and medium-cost housing project, Dr Ramasamy said: “That is on paper. We (the state) will come in.”

On the villagers’ lodging a report with the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission, claiming that there was foul play in the transfer of the land from the state to the cooperative in March 2008, Dr Ramasamy said a five-man committee headed by Deputy Chief Minister I Mansor Othman had been set up to investigate the case.
June 18, 2009 at 5:17 PMUnknown: any update on this project?
June 19, 2009 at 2:52 PMSomeone: HELP needed...

I have signed S&P and purchased a unit in 2007 and now, I am totally fed up with the status and the irresponsible developer. I want to cancel the purchase and I am wondering if I have to clear all the S&P fees? Anybody has any advice on this? What will happen if I refuse to do that?
June 19, 2009 at 10:52 PMUnknown: when will it be done?
what is the price range for the 1041 sqft type?
how much is the maintenance fee?
June 23, 2009 at 1:02 AMUnknown: i just call lee this morning.but stil no news..how come...ai......so upset
June 23, 2009 at 10:45 AMUnknown: They said this monday can get the answer y no news??
June 26, 2009 at 12:13 PMUnknown: The Sun 25/6/09..

'High Chaparral' residents LOSE bid to stop land grab...
June 29, 2009 at 9:41 PMLepat: GEORGE TOWN: Penang Deputy Chief Minister I Mansor Othman will meet the developers of a proposed apartment project in Kampung Buah Pala to tell them not to demolish the houses in the village, popularly known as Penang’s High Chaparral.

He said that he would ask the developers to hold on to the vacant possession directive served on the villagers while the state investigates allegations of misuse of power and corruption in the transfer of the land.

“I am confident that the developers will cooperate with the state,” he told a press conference here on Monday.

The residents filed an application Monday to set aside an ex-parte order dated June 16 obtained by the North-East land administrator, Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd and Nusmetro Venture, to issue a writ of possession, which is to be enforced at 11am on July 2.

The application was filed on behalf of the residents at the High Court registry at 3:15pm by counsel Darshan Singh Khaira.

In their application, the residents also applied for the bailiff’s notice, execution and enforcement of the writ to be set aside.

In his affidavit, labourer K. Shanmugham said to date he and the other village residents had yet to be served with the Court of Appeal’s order dated May 11.

He said the writ of possession was defective as the Koperasi and Nusmetro Venture have failed to obtain any permission from the authorities and the Penang Municipal Council to demolish the houses in the village.

The application will be heard on a date yet to be fixed.

At a separate press conference, a visibly upset Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng told Kampung Lorong Buah Pala villagers that they should know who their friends and enemies were.

“If we are not pursuing the matter now, do you think the residents would still be there today?” he said.

On the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) threat to withdraw support for the Pakatan Rakyat alliance in Penang if the state government failed to settle the matter, Lim said the movement should not blame the state.

“Hindraf should instead pressure the Federal Government to acquire the land in accordance with the National Land Code. We cannot afford to do that because the amount will be substantial. It’s a figure I don’t even dare imagine,” he said.

Meanwhile, Penang Gerakan chairman Datuk Dr Teng Hock Nan said that the on-going dispute in Kampung Buah Pala was a clear indication that the villagers were promised “something” by certain quarters.

Dr Teng said politicians, including those from within Gerakan, should not go around making empty promises as this would later upset those who believed such talk.

Some 300 squatters there are facing the prospect of eviction after a Federal Court ruled in favour of the landowner and developer last week
June 30, 2009 at 12:24 PMUnknown: that mean how?now how about the status.i call LEE he say they will start the project d..wat shb we do..pls...
July 1, 2009 at 3:14 PMUnknown: i saw a news yesterday..walau..this project really facing so many problem..lim guan eng also jump out ...wat can we all do...neomestro..pls lahhhhh..if cant continue the project,..can you pls,,,cancel it..n gv back our 10% and legal fee,,,,,,,u r loss in ur imej..
July 1, 2009 at 6:36 PMKris Khaira: If you would like to publicly voice your support for the villagers, please contact me:

Email: kris.khaira@gmail.com
Tel: 016-3337678

Kris Khaira
Coordinator
Jaringan Rakyat Tertindas (JERIT) Pulau Pinang
July 2, 2009 at 10:06 AMUnknown: then who help our purchase voice out...pls..actualy we our purchaser also gv 10% to the developer for 2 year d.then who help us to vcoice out..pls lah
July 2, 2009 at 2:18 PMUnknown: This project already face big prob, Nusmetro plz cancel this project and search for new land... Nusmetro name already in black list bcoz of this issue.. Plz cancel the project and pay back purchasers money wif legal fee,if this project still going i scare the indian there will do something.. This case will giv trouble to us (purchasers)..We need to wait and wait again...tired in waiting (4years)
July 3, 2009 at 8:07 PMUnknown: I don't think Nusmetro will cancel their project because already invest in many things, waste time and money around rm6millin 1year, they'll fight to the end. Lastly they (developer) won't returned their money to purchaser.
July 3, 2009 at 8:40 PMFennie: For win win situation, the developer should compensate to the villagers in order to continue the project. If not, Nusmetro will really hard to stand in Penang anymore.
July 4, 2009 at 4:26 PMUnknown: i hate the feel for waiting d..i not a rich guy..so y..the developer..pls take action for us ok..
July 4, 2009 at 6:51 PMFennie: Actually how many percentage of the selling price has you been paid? In fact, this protestion of the villagers involve politic issue and somebody intend to make it as big issue , so i feel it hard to disolve now.
July 7, 2009 at 10:21 AMUnknown: Ya fennie, now the case will create alots of prob.. The indian there still want to fight, i think they must think 100yrs they stay there nothing to pay for that land.. Also that land not belong to their name so if gov sold that land to somebody they cannot do anything, that dev already said that they will pay some amount and house after their project complete for Low Medium Cost unit.. Thats good offer but now still got 23family still want to fight want more than that..They should thanks god bcoz they can hav new house and hav better life..Now for this 23family dev said they wont get anything bcoz the dev cannot fullfit their request.. To much lor.. 1 family want Rm200k if 23 family Rm4.5million...
July 7, 2009 at 3:23 PMUnknown: Penang prepared to cancel developer’s project
By K. KASTURI DEWI

GEORGE TOWN: The Penang government is prepared to cancel Nusmetro Ventures (P) Sdn Bhd’s project in Kampung Buah Pala if the developer fails to compensate the residents.

Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng said yesterday that the state was willing to face financial losses if it cancelled the project and the developer took action against the state.

“I just want to warn the developer not to test the state government’s patience because we will not back out just like that,” he told a press conference after opening a photography exhibition entitled “View Through the Lens of Photojournalist” by the Penang Chinese Newspapers Journalists and Photographers’ Association at the main entrance of Komtar yesterday.

Lim also warned the developer not to issue threats that they would move in to take possession of the houses.

It was reported on Thursday that Nusmetro Ventures executive director Thomas Chan said the company has a writ of possession and that it would go in.

Lim also warned the developer not to act in a high-handed way thinking that it could escape paying compensation just because it had obtained a court order.

He also said that he had no problem meeting the residents but added that this would give an impression that both his deputies Dr P. Ramasamy and Mansor Othman, who were assigned to handle the matter, were not capable of doing their job.

“The former state government and Barisan Nasional created this mess and (former chief minister) Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon should address the matter in the Cabinet on Wednesday as the present state government is not financially capable,” he said.

Lim also said that the state could not buy back the land at the RM3.2mil price paid by the Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd to the previous state government as the land was now valued 20 times more.

On the threat by residents to send a letter to Unesco to revoke George Town’s World Heritage Site listing, Lim said they had the right to do so if they wanted to, but pointed out that the village was not in the heritage zone.

Deputy Chief Minister II Dr Ramasamy, who was also present, said the state had waited 15 months to investigate the matter as in the beginning, the residents had won two cases involving the land in the Penang High Court.

He said the state would also check if the documents from the Land Office were in order and find out why the land was sold by the previous state government at the low price of RM3.2mil.

Kampung Buah Pala Association assistant secretary C. Tharmaraj, when contacted, questioned the position of the state to talk about compensation issues when it had yet to meet the residents or complete investigations.

“We don’t want the money. We want the state to reveal how the land transaction happened. The transfer was made on March 26 last year and the council building permission was given in November 2007,” said Tharmaraj.
July 9, 2009 at 8:16 PMBK: So many problem and politics in this Kampung and Nusmetro, don't put too much hope that we can get our dream home. Really sick... Better pull out.
July 13, 2009 at 11:45 AMUnknown: I heard 2nd of August the developer will start to roboh all the houses there..
July 13, 2009 at 1:36 PMPositionT: The worst scenario is developer progress to build against local government will. End up, once progress claim billed and bank issue $$, purchaser have to serve interest, while VP & OC never see the light. Plenty of abandon and severely delayed project due to failed "last step" in Malaysia. Hope purchaser not to fall victim into this double jeopardy.
July 18, 2009 at 7:52 PMUnknown: Hello mr. Tan, u know what u talking or not ? U think the kg people stayed there for free meh? Who do u think paid the tol, your Gfather kah? U think this people indonesian kah? Everyone knows it's a land scam . Previous govt as well as the current PR are involved in this scam la. Please follow up or read paper everyday la. Don't give halfpast six comments. Don't be selfish... if people come n break your house u keep quite meh???
July 19, 2009 at 9:11 PMFennie: For my opinion, i think purchaser should pull out from this project, it is too " Ma Fan" and complicated. In future, when buy house purchaser must make sure the strata/individual title is ready to transfer to purchaser when sign S&P or at least the land is clear from any old house. This is really a bad experience.
July 19, 2009 at 10:35 PMel: my advice is to check the background of the developer each time before you buy their property. or buy after it complete if you don't want to take the risk as malaysia law does not really cover buyer. thats y until now still projects that cannot be complete even they hv rule the country for 50 yrs.
July 21, 2009 at 3:57 PMUnknown: Mr Parameswaran,
I think u should think carefully.. At least i hav my own land to build my house.. Dont use grandfather, if i say indian in kpg buah pala make ppl land like their great2 grandfather..! Make ppl headache and problem, in Perak also got same prob but they are more...more good coz they hav brain and know that they stay at ppl land.. So they just ask new place for them so they get new place and pocket money.. Not like kpg buah pala ask rm1million each family, wah stay at ppl land at how many generation now make that land like under their name.. If u the owner of that land and want all ppl stay there to moving out but the same problem u face, wat is ur decision?????
July 23, 2009 at 5:39 PMUnknown: my view is that i will pull out from the purchase and search else where. Already 4 years and no house taking shape. Penang properties' always appreciate and dont miss out the opportunity to other better product around with less headache. For Chinese, it is not good to own the house also cos so much problem already at the beginning. I believe the end-financing bank are now cautious in providing the EF facilities. Anyone facing problem?
July 23, 2009 at 8:13 PMGeno: CL,
Do we still allow to withdraw at this stage? By the way, what do u mean by 4 years? Taught just one year ++ since signing SnP.
July 24, 2009 at 8:49 AMUnknown: hi all,
i think at this moment we not need to withdraw d,since we wait so long(1 year ++.duno y cl say 4 year).i have follow up this project (news) everyday..today newspaper have big issue again(pls go n read kwong hwa paper)the developer had win this court order,so the defanaly wana built OASIS ,y dun we wait until ogos 3 ,i think the developer sure wont run away cos now it become big issue ,i think at the end if we cant get Oasis ,we also can get our money+what they ofer to us.so dun be so stupic that withdraw it now.patient
July 24, 2009 at 9:23 AMUnknown: hi all oasis buyer :

i only have 1 comments. "sui" or bad luck for all of u to sign up this problematic dev. when i visited the show house 1 year ago, i already sense that because the developer can't explain the squatter things.

good luck. the developer will try to build the thing fast to avoid compensation to u. finishing will be compromise i thought....and cut cost measure will be very aggressive. so don't expect what u see what u get...
July 25, 2009 at 1:29 AMUnknown: oh,my god,,our bad luck hapen..lim guan eXX so selfish..he just care bout the squater ,.then have he care bout all the purchaser..y like that...our money can get back?wat can we do now..can cancel...?i wana cancel...now can?
July 25, 2009 at 7:06 AMUnknown: haha, I think you are saw the news in http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2009/07/25/23.html. I'm the outsider who looking so long for this property and follow up the news very closely. I have small chat with my lawyer friends. They say Lim GE do not have vision, not capable and not a leader.
We all know that the developer win the court case even though in high court. That is not possible for someone even though Lim GE as Chief Minister not to follow the court rule. My friends have laugh to Lim GE as showing super hero again to public without caring their administration and PKR must be pay back. My friends say that, when this case put into court, the State government is not in a good position and we expected that state government will lose in the court case with very short period if Lim GE plan to cancel the project. The payback from state government is huge, no point to take this risk. Besides, Lim GE try to use his position and power to against the court order, this is very childish attitude, he create an example and this create another opportunity for BN getting a chance to attack PKR. Najib can invade 4 states where belong to PKR or even though jail Lim GE/Anwar because Najib will be using the same reason as Lim GE done for Kampung Buah Pala, I'm a PM, I'm using my power .
Another point of view, do you think Lim GE can use his power as CM to simply invade people land/ property or jail peoples if he don't like this peoples. It must be make sense, all people must obey the court result unless he is living in Compochia/ North Korea where the leader have absolute power. Lim GE really disappoint us as he should not act as Robin Hood, he must aware his decision can make very bad example, bad impact to the party and cause badly to the development of the state.
We believe that the police and city council may aware what Lim GE is misusing his power, they can not to follow the order from him.
My Friends and us come to conclusion that the announcement from Lim GE today is try to threaten the developer so that the developer can compromise the deal. Besides, we think Lim GE already out of the idea on solving this issues, during 3 August, the developer definitely will come together with police to clear out the land and scenario we don't want to see will be happen. If the developer manage to destroy the houses and clear out the land, LIM GE will make a big noise that I already order city council to cancel the permit, now you can see how arrogant the UMNO link company. The purpose for this is to kick back the ball to BN and he don't know if he play this kind of politic, many unhappy incidents and many people’s will scarify on this issues.
So upset to the way Lim GE handle.
If I am a developer, in order to avoid the trick from Lim GE, I will put the case to the court, there is very high chance to get the money from Lim GE administration without carry on the project. This money what I get from Lim GE can pay back double or triple to the buyers.
My friends want to be volunteer as one of the lawyer for the developer, if can get 10% of the RM150million once win the court case and we think this very high chance to win.
July 25, 2009 at 9:10 AMsyntax: wahlau property, your info quite "good" and your vocab very "excellent" but your story not very eye openning. People over here care about the constuction of this property not the drama political issue or how much yr lawyer friends can made.

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