The Oasis Condominium located at Gelugor, off Jalan Yeap Choy Ee in a residential neighbourhood with easy accessibility to Bayan Lepas, the mainland and Georgetown.
The development is well-served by numerous retail stores including Tesco and Queensbay, as well as hospitals, clinics, schools and University Sains Malaysia (USM). Nearby neighborhoods include Minden Heights, Taman Gelugor, Taman Brown, Taman Pekaka and University Place.
Property Project : The Oasis Condominium
Location : Gelugor, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Leasehold
No. of Blocks : 3
Built-up Area : approx. 1,041 to 1,183 sq.ft.
Developer : Nusmetro Venture (P) Sdn Bhd
Facilities
24 hours security, CCTV, Wi-Fi, Ready centralized Astro point, Swimming Pool, Gym, Squash Court, Jacuzzi, Yoga Room, Courtyard, Barbeque Pit.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1505 Newer› Newest»Can someone please advise how can we get back 100% of our deposit. I spoke to my lawyer and he said the only way we can get back our deposit, that too only 9% of the total 10% we have paid is if we show the developer that our loan has been rejected.
The lawyer did mention though to cehck with the developer verbally first whether they are willing to refund back 100% of the deposit wihout having the loans rejected
Anyone here has collected back 100%of their deposit? How you did?
will any of you set the meeting place and meet with Mr Lee??
June 12th is the detail hearing whereby both parties have to show evidences on the land transfer. The issue now is developer is saying land has been transfered but the other party is saying the land has not been transferred in accordance to the law of which the "trust" and other legal terms..comes into the picture.
just to share with yours IJM upcoming project Pearl Regency which only sell for Korean
http://www.pearlregency.co.kr/
How come this can happen? Sux max!
in this case i rather be buying IJM spring and looking at a dumpsite rather than being treated like garbage by some liar developer...
Woo Hoo! When I posted my ealier blog on the potential negative effect of squatters on the development schedule, some people here said delay is NORMAL and Nusmetro must be given a chance to prove themselves...
So why are some of you panicking now already?! Give Nusmetro longer la! Worse come to the worse lose 10% only wat...
Wei fren, 10% will take years to safe. Not easy saving $$$ you know ?
Yep I agree with the anonymous above. Really REGRET did not buy THE SPRING.
Sigh...
if you like the spring that much then mah join the spring blog and buy with invester loh... i believe both of you might be 1st time buyer....
I just got my money back.Better take your money back before they go bust !!! Oasis cheating people. Invest somewhere else.
How can you take ur money back so fast?
If we have sign the SPA, we can only get back money if our loan is being rejected.
Hav you sign the SPA?
What are you did to get the money so fast?
can take back 10%? how? they allow?
friend,my advise dun panic & wait till 2nd hearing then only make decision... 2nd hearing on June 12th
yup, don't fret yet..wait till the 2nd hearing before making any decisions..
I'm sure Nusmetro will return the 10% if the project didnt get green light from state government
I really very very sian with nusmetro dealing with us as a purchaser.
No Professionalism at all...
Can u as Nusmetro give us a sense of Responsible?
Received 10% for alomost 6months but no personal explanation to us.
What is happening?
What is this?
Is this the service provided to purchaser?
When called us to Buy talk till like Heaven never knows...
After Buy "CHoi lei to soh"... (dont care)...
I have been to the land and still nothing going on there.
Henry Buther ppl also dont care already...
All push to Mr.Lee to explain..
i believe anyone of us also dun aspect this happen, and i felt that let Mr Lee make explanation is better than others ppl or HB ppl expalin to us,coz he is the most suitable one for this case.
If we felt unconfortable than just make a call to Mr Lee rather than worry here n there end up still back to square 1.
since most of us d wait for many months,y dont we wait feel more weeks c what is happen.
out S&P is legaly protected,if nusmetro failed to cont the project sure we can get back our $$...
The Opening credits for the Oasis - "Whether you're purchasing The Oasis as a home or as an investment, be prepared to indulge your senses in total luxury."
I think now its ..be prepared to indulge your senses in total headache...
sure..nusmetro will send you an invite to come collect yur 10%...
hello guys, you seem inexperience with project hanging.. huh? just a sincere advice. Before you sign SP, you can cancel & take back your 10%. If they don;t pay you, write letter to Kementrian Perumahan in KL (that is the worst you can do). I booked I-regency 2.5yrs back, I cancelled & got back the deposit. I-regency was dragged and many buyers lost confidence. Somehow it is continuing if drive along yap chor ee.
If you have signed off, just ask your bank officer to non-officially help you issue a letter on housing loan rejection. Then you could get back the 10%. My friend just did that for a landed near Jelutong. Be smart.
To some of the anonymouse up there, why giving chances? You buy a house and yet have to worry about how developer progresses from ground 0 ? Isn't it funny ?
why not get some other projects with hassle free? sorry just browse this blog and giving some advice.
By the way, there are some other on-going/ to be completed projects like d'piazza, summer place, Palm palladium, the brezza and i-regency. Aren't they look attractive at all ? Don't they offer an ease of mind compared to your current one?
Woo Hoo! When I posted my ealier blog on the potential negative effect of squatters on the development schedule, some people here said delay is NORMAL and Nusmetro must be given a chance to prove themselves...
So why are some of you panicking now already?! Give Nusmetro longer la! Worse come to the worse lose 10% only wat...
To the anonymous who posted this blog entry, i strongly support your statement..
yes,everyone also can give commend in this blog & have diff opinion... but for those with wrong motive (feel that they are smart and laught at ppl, end up doing nothing) i can say that you are childish... sorry to said that..
but for those who realy share commend & experience, thanks for your advice
Can we actually get back 10% of the deposit money? The lawyer told me only 9%. To those who claim you have refunded the money after you signed the S&P, why dont you please share with the rest how you got back all the 10%?
The developer will not send an invitation letter asking us to come and collect our 10% after all the investment he has done to advertise this project. The squatters folks will not clear the land as obviously the land transfer did not happen legally as how is defined by the current state government.
We all need a back-up plan. Someone needs to talk to Lim Guan Eng to ensure not only the squatters ppl are taken care BUT also we buyers. He has help all of us to make sure we get back all our 10% of deposit. No point we go and see Mr.Lee, we have to go and see Lim Guan Eng.
Otherwise, none of us are going to get back our 10%. As per law, only 9% can be obtained, that too if u get your loan to be rejected.
Are we going to just sit here and wait? Why not we all gather all the buyers and report this to a local paper? We have all the rights to get the proper explanation from Nusmetro btu so far the developer did not even call up a meeting to explain on the delay. So far we have been informed of the different project starting dates.
1) Apr 2008 when we signed up the S&P
2) End of May 2008 when I called up Mr. Lee and spoke to him two weeks ago
3).............. now not very sure
If you all are serious in fighting for our rights as buyers, please provide me your name, unit number and hp#. Please send it to oasispenang@yahoo.com
Also, please post all your comments on the new blog that I set up previously.
http://oasispenang.blogspot.com/2008/05/oasis-penang.html
I have friends working in local newspapers as reporters. What I need is a collective voice to raise this issue.
Regards.
To The Oasis buyer, once u all get the refund maybe can try Palm Palladium located at Minden Heights. Another 2~3 months OC obtain.
Since we know there is second hearing on June 12th, why not we just wait till then and make decision?
If we do it now, I believed the answer will be:
1. There will be 2nd hearing on June 12th
2. Earthwork will start on July 1
3. If we did not deliver, we will compensate based on S&P
4. bla bla bla ....
They can start anytime as long they deliver in 3 years else compensate. Except there is rules that they need to start after 'x' period from S&P date.
If you make it big in newspaper, not sure what benefit to us as buyer.. faster to start? get refund? i just know definately bad impression to this property..
Nusmetro and Oasis is already on many peoples 'no-no' list
I agree that if we complain of any delays now, the answer would be that it has yet been delayed as according to S&P, a property is only deemed to be delayed if the developer fails to deliver after 3 years. The question is are we willing to wait for 3 years before we take any action? I beleive NOT as we rather take back the money and invest in another property. My opinion is, let us all wait till 12th of June, if the trial results not in favour to the developer,lets see the State Assesmblymen to push the developer in giving an option to all the buyers to cancel the S&P and return 100% of the payment.
i had a meet up with CIMB bank manager, he told me CIMB has blacklisted oasis project, meaning the will not process any endfinancing for this project.
Too bad Nusmetro and Oasis
CIMB.. ? ok...can somebody tell me why Maybank , AmBank and RHB Bank can give approval to Oasis case..i m the one to obtain the loan from Maybank. Its CIMB "big brothers" in our bank industrials ?
CIMB still a top 3 bank in Malaysia. If a project has been blacklisted by a major bank, it is matter. Maybank may follow, who knows, of course, for new application. For the loan approved earlier, they have to support as per the loan agreement.
Anyway, if the project failed within 3 years, accordingly to S&P, you can get back your 100% money, with condition the developer still alive.
fyi,since day1 (Oasis Soft launch) CIMB dont have the loan for this project...is not suddently reject.
is normal that some of the bank din provide loan for centain project.. OCBC also the same
anyone pulled out already? no update so far for this issue la..should i pull the plug as well or not?
Erm... I'm also 1 of the purchaser... of the oasis..
I think we should give the last chance for nusmetro until 1st July as promise by Nusmetro.
We already waited so long, just wait for just 1 month.
Let us see on 12th Jun hearing!
Smart move CIMB.. a lot of banks snub nusmetro.. oso citibank.
suddenly Oasis's blog is not as hot as what it used to be last time..
ya..everyone waiting 1st july coming.nothing can do at this moment. Hope you guys get good news soom.
~Q3Q
just had a conversation with friends. With petrol drastic price hike, incomplete or new properties will probably be the casualties of being abandoned! It is time to seriously think over.
yes. i agree with you and this will be a trial for every developer.
on another point of view, the property price will up soon (due to construction material price up and etc) and the analyser estimate that property price serious 1 will up till 50%, so if at this moment we din buy any house then in future this will be a big burden for those who buy a house.
land issues..cement and steel price increase... fuel price increase... whats next? BLR increase?
realy impress by the response on such responsible developer (IJM).
i stay at bayswater and lst week i did complain thru IJM sales website bout ilegal parking fees infront of bayswater, supprise to me is nxt day morning i d received their reply and said they will look into this n right now the case will be followup by their management group. and 2days after complain the samseng which collect ilegal parking infront of bayswater is not there anymore,i respect to such responsible developer & their fast response.
I hope that Nusmetro will learn from IJM as responsible developer as i had send more than 5 complain to Nusmetro and non of them get reply before... i make me felt that the developer is try to ignore buyer commend...
hi guys, i heard that this developer wan to "cabut"... This condo cannot be approved bcoz indian there BIG HEAD already..
The developer cannot pay back all of your money.
where did you get the news fr?
die lah. my money gone.........
going to their office ASAP.....
already so pokai now these unscrupulous developers trying to run........
Hey.. where u hear the news? Any proof kah? Dont make everyone panic
gone?really or not the news??tomoro i will go to thier office to confrim,
hi all. pls stay calm. Someone is trying to panic everyone here. I juts spoke to the banker from MBB and he has advised us to wait for the full trial tommorow. The problem is not beacuse the indian squatter are having BIG HEAD. The problem simply is that the developer with the support from previous government only agreed to pay 80K to each family livnig there. There is good justification that they have the right to demand more from the developer. ONce developers agrees to this demand, they will vacate the land for the development to take off. The developer is being stubborn beacuse they got the land at a cheap price due to a contra of another land in town. But this is not a justification to pay less to the squatters as the compensation should be in par with the real value of the land regardless of how much the developer paid for it.
hi there,
i spoke to on of my friends who s a squatters there. Tomorrows court case, its actually the squatters whom drag the dev. & koperasi to court, not otherwise. They are trying to get an injunction to spot dev. or koperasi to obtain VP of the said land. Their reason are;
1. Land was sold below market price.
2. State govt. does not hv right to sell since its federal land.
3. Sold for somethg like 6mil but state govt. accs show discre. of 3mil.
4.Some documents of land sales was illegally proven been back dated.
Few weeks back the squatters used 3 of the residents to have injuction until tmrow hearing, that done because they will have some more people to do other injuctions if neccesary.
It vv unlikely if developer can win at the end of the day unless someones willing to be the acceptancy.
this will drag on and on and on.....and i will incur lots and lots of interest..........already money shrinking...........regretlah like this....head-ache......so how now???
i heard that Oasis will increase the selling price after this court case due to petrol and steel price hike.Don't worry so much everybody... It wont bankrupt one
ya la..oasis developer wont bankrupt one..the buyers will...
yaya... agree, the developer will not go bankrupt,..
the buyer will go bankrupt.. hahaha....
Ya... worry that they will keep on postpone and postpone....
wat to do.. wait for tmr morning lo....
i bought two units there, r u guys sure Nusmetro won't bankrupt? Keeping my fingers crossed.
i'd rather trust posting from Racing bro cos he has posted alot good reviews since the start of this blog.
Racing bro, pls advise us.. thank u
any update for the secound hearing?
still no update for the court case 2day? wat next?
case deferred to sept 11 for the next hearing..
anyone call Mr Lee?? any update & when will them start ground work? within 2weeks time??
I just called Mr.Lee. He said nothing happened in the hearing today as the judge has to go through some doucments and etc Anyway, Nusmetro is not going to wait till the next hearing according to him. He said within the next 2 weeks, they will start ground work. July 1st, we shoudl see something. They are going by force it seems and already forsee problems of which they are ready to handle be it with the politicians or police.Also, he said the purchase price of the units will go up.
hmmm..nusmetro will go ahead for groundwork despite court order? how de hell are they suppose to clear the squatter ppl? Cialat!
It's now 12th June, anyone know what's the results of the court 2nd hearing?
hopes they will start in next 2 weeks. Say last night chinese newspaper that hearing will postpone to 911 (Sept 11).
seriously speaking, do u really think Nusmetro will be able to start clearing the land with the squatters around?
put yourself in the squatter's position, do u think you'll let someone bulldoze your house/land without any letter of intent, court order or police order?
pls wake up & smell the coffee in case you're still blur after being lied by Mr Lee through his teeth.
let us wait 2more week and will prove whether is true or not.... that no point to argue bout this
ya agreed, there is no point to argued or anxious here... esspecially for purchaser.
So, just wait for 2 more weeks...
If nothing happen then I think all purchaser will no how to do right?
As all purchaser is smart enough to make their decision right...
To all puchaser: nusmetro said that they will send us letter of explanation.
wahhhh still want to wait ah? everytime only wait wait and see see.....1/2 a year ago also wait, 3 months ago also wait. after june 11 hearing also wait, now also wait...happy waiting!
The court has dismiss the application of VP from the dev. & koperasi. Sept 11 is suppose the hearing date of the appeal frm the dev. & Koperasi over the dismissal. Now the judge has set for the appeal by the dev. & the application againts the eviction frm squatters to be heard on the same date. Meaning the Dev. or Koperasi hasnt obtain the Vacant Possesion of the said land. Without VP dev. cld not move into the land.
How do Nusmetro convinced us that they will be moving in by this 2 weeks, they will be doing it againts the high court then. This will mean that they are asking for more trouble. They could only move after Sept 11, having said that after Sept 11 if their appeal is granted and the squatters application is rejected by the judge.Then again the first defendant will be the TimurLaut land office, meaning the hearing are bound to be elobrated and will take some time or rather a long time...winning is another matter? With the new state govt. I could not see this matter can be resolve in nusmetros' favor, dealings that been done during the old govt. has resulted in many lop holes. By the way Pakatan Rakyat are saying they are ready to take over the federal by Sept. Our hearing is also in Sept. Its best to decide right now than wait for decisions thats not within our control.
Making us happy saying that they are going to raise the property price after all is settle sounds more like a scam to me. The building price is definately going up any whre now generally, with fuel prices and bank lending rates that pretty much escalting soon..At the end of the day developers shd know that its the purchasing power of the buyers that plays the outmost role. Once the purchasing power is weaken they will be nothing for then to sell.
any advice what we could as this point as purchaser?
good news,they will clear the land and make fancing in this 2 weeks time.Please dont go they see how they clear the land k. Just go to see after 2 weeks lahh
Dont worry so much lah, see the news better lah.. talk talk so much here..
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2008/06/12/125.html
share some old news here
cheers..
http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2008-04-28&sec=local&art=0428lg04.txt
news also can believe? better wait till we get the court ruling than believing in news..
Can someone translate what the newspaper says since it is all in Chinese?
numestro cant do anything yet until they get permission from the court. they must wait until everything get apprrove only can start work...
I cant understand why Nusmetro keep convincing the buyers over n over again. Why not say there is a problem and they could not decide until the court decides. Rather then pepectually given thin reasoning. This time is that they will move in 2 weeks time. To me its rubbish!!! They definantely cant move in, and I believe they wont be able to move in around this year at all. I bought the unit during launching day, thats in Nov 07....its almost 7 months. And they keep asking their clerk and sales people to tell us they have got the title....wht good if you have a car but doesnt have the keys to it. I ask the sales people whts the meaning of the title of land , they themself doesnt know whts the defination of title and whts vacant possesion or whts injunction.
i also booked at NOv 2007.i so disapointed with the developer.last week i have go to their office and meet the sale ppl ..he tell me that the developer at the moment dun want do any explaination to all the BUYER..cos NO POINT..the main thing NOw is Settle the squatter...(that mean he dun CAre About us..) i dun mind that if they really delay the Project..BUt..at least they must Give all the existing BUYER some IDEAL What going on right...we pay ROUND 30K but???what we get,,..nothing,,,..a simple explain they also dun want to action...ai.....
If we are already sick and tired of all the excuses and not willing to wait any longer, what can we do? What are the options available for us to get back our money and back-off from this project? Can someone please advise?
When i first called up Nusmetro on the day they had Full-Trial to enquire on the result,the operator/Sales Person who answered my call was very rude to me too. I humbly asked her for updates regarding the Full Trial and this lady asked me back exactly this " What? What Full Trial? I dont understand What Full Trial". I got so pissed-off, and asked her back in a stern voice whetehr she is realyl working for Nusmetro and if she is dont tell me you dont know wat is happenign with your own project".Only then she said "oooh..project" and quickly passed the phone to Mr. Lee. Gosh, i cant imagine a developer who is building a luxury condo can employ workes who dont even know how to talk to their customers
reply to teh above,
i think at the moment now,WHAT we also cant do...NOTHING we can do...wait n wait...No longer wait,,,we spent almost 30k in this project,..but..what we get is wait...ok..
To all buyers,
I'm not a buyer but I went through this blog and pity you guys.
I wonder if you all have signed the SPA and bank loan? If nothing is signed, then you are all safe. Can request for refund since there is no binding obligation here. Take Nusmetro to court if they refuse to refund. They have no right to hold on to your money.
However, if SPA and loan has been signed, then a bit difficult. You can try reading through the SPA and see if there is any clause which is in favour of buyer. Eg: In the event of dispute, what are the compensation developer owe buyer? Is there a time frame set against the developer to do anything? That sort of clause. Surely there is as the SPA will spells out the security for both buyers and developer.
Also, bank are not suppose to release money to developer in the event of dispute/project is unsure. Call and make sure the bank doesn't release money to Nusmetro. Else you will be owing bank money for something which you will not be getting.
Good luck to you all! The above is just my opinion.
I also not a buyer. Just a word of advice. To cut short long term pain, ask your bank to hold the payment until further notice.
Do not let the developer withdraw any money from your bank without knowing the progress. This case may/ may not be similar to those happened back 10yrs ago (eg: majestic height, pernas teluk air tawar, and so on)
My friend made a quick call back in 1998 when most of housing projects were facing problem of project being stalled. He ordered the bank to stop even though 40% had been released. He escaped further suffering but other owners lost >70% when that developer declared 'run away'.
Hope this helps.
Do not worry much on bank loan portion. Developer won't request any money from loan as long no progress. As stated in SPA, you can find the progressive % draw depends on the construction status.
I would choose to wait wait wait as already sign the SPA and bank loan. Had checked with lawyer. There are two options avaialble: 1) Wait wait wait 2) Terminate the contract. Still waiting for more information from lawyer what is the impact to my 10% if terminate the contract. Definately the SPA and bank loan agreement fees is gone.
Oasis,
Im in same condition with you, as i know if terminate at this time we will lost our 10%.
Do give me an update if you get any update fr ur lawyer.
Thanks.
oasis,
i also choose to wait.if not what can i do..spent so much d..ai...
yaya... no choice for those that already sign SPA...
I will wait till the latest mid of July... nia...
If still nothing have been start on that site,..
no metter wat.. I will pull out...
I rather loss abit than later nothing out....
Hi guys, i pity you all.
Numestro ppl must talk nicely la, you all NOT paid them small amount wat..BIG money from BIG heart work. Y u didnt ask that gal name? y s0 ruth!! They cant start their work until they get permission from court. They lie to you all that they will start clearing that land within this 2weeks. STOP give us bulshitt promises!!!
Know your rights before doing anything. If we terminate our contract now, we wont lose 10%. Read the S&P, it says termination after 10% has been paid or no Progress of work yet, the damage is only 1% from the parcel price. Get another lawyer to advise, we ll be more clear, definately we wont lose 10% or 30K. If the parcel price is 300k we will lose 3k.
so..we loss 3 k for the termination ..then how about the S n P LAWYER FEE..?i pay 3k also..i stil not yet attach to any bank yet..ai...so kek sim...
Esther, definately the S&P will be underwater. More important now is the 10%. Developer said that 10% will gone if bank already approved. Need to check the S&P again on this.
i got apply maybank ,and it approved few month d..but i not yet sign the loan..actualy i also duno what to do..wil be crazy...if u all can share with me..hope that we can alway keep in toght,,i give my yahoo masager here...hope that u all will add me ..
esther852000@yahoo.com
thanks
esther.. u r better.. probably still have turn around since not yet sign the bank loan agreement. I'm too efficient which come the bank agreement...
Right know i just wait wait wait and looking forward positive area.
dun worry oasis, since me in same condition with you mean u r not alone ...
hi,
Just wana let u all know..actualy the developer got check this blog everyday..they know all the buyer have those so many question and they dun want to take any action to explain to us ..what the hell they doing now..really fxxk...they totally din respect us...can we all go to their office to get the answer?if i go alone they also will simply entertain me..hope that we all can co-orperated and we make a date n time then go their office /???okkkk????
how do you know the developer reads this blog ?
Hi all,
Actually no point you guys go to developers office.We all know that obviously the developer is keen to start the work but what is stopping them is something not within their control.There is high chance the developer will not able to simply vacate the squatter by force as they claim they can do as this country has it's own laws, nobody can take the law in their hands and do such an evil thing as demolishing ppl's home when they are still in their house!. We are from a civilized country,i hope the developer is aware of this before they try to convince the buyers that they can vacate the ppl by force. Having said this, wat we can do is the following:-
1] If you have signed the S&P and the loan = You can only wait or if you quit, whatever you have paid will just fly away. Wait till the court grants them Court Order to vacate the squatters which nobody knowns when will happen. At least we are sure it wont happen before Sept 2008
2] IF you have signed the S&P BUT not yet the loan = You can get back 9% of the 10% you have paid
3] If you have NOT signed the S&P, you can get back whatever money you have paid
jz passing thru & wana comment something as well. if you have paid the lawyer fees on your own, then you should consider it as part of charity money to Oasis project cos there can be no refund for that..
So Panic now?
Btw...how many purchaser already signed the SPA and haven't sign the load agreement and successfully pull out and get back the money?
another question:
how many purchaser alrady pull out and get back the 10%?
Actually i go to the Nusmetro sale gallery last Fri and i found that the units being sold are increased. I wonder how this can be happened and now ~200? Do you all think that this is true or they simply din remove the red pins? Anyone can comment?
I dunno whether the deveoper got look on this blog bo...
But they sure know about this blog...
Anyhow I support to go together to the nusmetro office...
and remember to book appointment with mr.lee...
Please book it during sat or sun...
no work ma...haahah...
join together to question them...
hi,
i can confrim that they have go thru this blog,know y???cos that day i went to thier office,i have 100% c the sale ppl r seaching this wedsite.n what i mention above is what they tell me...nusmetro plssssssssssssssssssssssss....concern about us ok....
If really want to go to their office, i would think we request their Director to provide explaination.. Mr Lee won't have to comment much as he not the boss...
so when we wana go?this saturday 21 june or 28 june?pls confrim date n time,ok...i sure go..
i m the purchaser of The Oasis. The land title is registered under the name of koperasi Pengawai Kerajaan Negeri Pulau Pinang.So..i strongly belive the project will going on..why ? is simple..there are the legally land owner. Can somebody tell me which projects in Penang whereby the land owner and the developer cant develop the project.
Let me tell you one project that cannot go on...Oasis!!
yeah..u are right, the project will go on..maybe just delayed another 3 years while u drown on your bank's interest payments..
yes its true,project cannot go on its OASIS!! open ur eyes n c wat happen now.. they cannot gif us a freedom after buying this condo but make us TENSION!! their staff also very ruth cant explain n entertain us smoothly..
more bad news on today's papers, looks like the squatters will fight on and on. i seriously doubt that this project will make it in time,it will experience serious delays or completely collapse. more head-aches
Is Nusmetro able to still continue?
Please look at the news:
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/6/21/nation/21614614&sec=nation
Good day, guys i'm sad to say that this project is just another LAND SCAM. Please go back to Jun 10th comments by racing. That answers most of yor doubts. Be pratical, if KP/DV has the land transferd 100%, what's the big fuss over getting a VP from the court?
If the DV really offered up to 260k, don't u think the kg people would have grabbed it?
Out of 31 Tol holders 11 have taken up the compensation, to be excat only 6 are original tol holders the bal 5 families are there only as a tenant. So the chances of the 5 original tol holders to put up a case in court over the compensation are very high. That will drag for few weeks or months ....
Guys a lot of grey area on the land issue itself, not the squatters. Get more info......
Hi oasis ,To be frank this piece of land belongs to Federal govt.Thus there's no supporting documents saying that the land have been transfered from Federal govt to State govt. So has the DV/KP has any right to own the piece of land? Y was the appeal to get the VP by DV was dismissed on jun hearing?
Look deeper on this project, it's only going to cause u guys to burn your 10%. Good day.
looks like some hiccups on this one. good luck. again make sure u do your homework. its not easy to earn $.
keep cool man... all will be well.
damn!!! this projects is going to be delay!!!! make me need to pay for more rental!
delay...delay....and delayyyy.....
what nusmetro give all is just empty promise and make we buyer in trouble...
since Nusmetro MD had made the decision & give us empty promise, he should give explanation to we buyer and nor always turn to Mr Lee....
Thomas Chan, be a responsible MD & developer k....
Nusmetro, Thomas Chan, Mr.Lee...
Please be a responsible developer and feedback to us what is going on?
Don't just hide from us (purchaser).
How long we have to wait?
You all are fooling us around...
Giving empty promises...
Just said you all do not have confidence to lay off those squatter.
It is just a dissapointment on the services provided by Nusmetro Developer.
I will withdraw out if nothing happen till mid july as promise by Nusmetro to start the clearing already...
:(
buyers,lets unite and redraw from oasis if Nusmetro still keep quiet & do nothing...date line : mid July
Thomas Chan, director of Nusmetro where are you ? Please come forward to explain the whole issue to us.And also Teoh Poh Huat, director of Henry Buther,Penang..please dont run away from this issue cause your company is a marketing agent for this project somemore order your staff talk about the good thing about the developer during the lauching time in Jan 2008.
Good day guys. So did u people get any explanantions from the developer or the sales agent? If yes please update the rest of us. If no then u people better start pressing the panic button cause it's better to be now rather then later. Loose 3k or 30k !!!
By the way Racing, did u get any latest information from your friend?
I heard that developer going to send out letter for explaination by end of this week. Anyone call up Mr Lee whether any new update on their discussion with government after last Friday incident?
Yes... developer will send out the letter by end of this week as stated by Mr.Lee...
It still have 2 years & 9months to go as sign from the S&P...
There are still alot of times even they delayed it another 3months...
As long as they can finish it within the time frame it is not a problem rite?
The most important is u will get the condo end of the S&P u have signed.
ya man..nusmetro can finish 1 floor in 1 week... :)
Ya lah why worry, they say they start by Chinese New Year this year, still got next Chinese New Year or 2 more years later...slow slow la, the settlers there need to wait for their baby-cows to become adult-cows first
hope that dont because of rush work then developer provide bad quality condo... else later here n there crack...
So what did Mr Lee say? When is the next hearing and what are they doing to make sure they will be able to get the squatters cleared?
hi to all genuine Oasis owners,
did u happen to notice that only few of us actually post our blog here? how about the rest? how many units are actually sold? forget about those who pose silly -ve remarks but i'm worried that the actual sold units are lower than what Nusmetro told us..
Hi all,I dont think we have to worry about how many units have been sold at this point of time. Everyone knows that due to its strategic place and value for money,I am sure OASIS will have more buyers once the development kick-starts.Better for us to keep focusing on how we can get first hand info on when the squatters can be cleared and hence the development can start.It will be helpful if those who have frens who are politicians or the squatters to share their side of story on whether there is hope that the squatters can be cleared anytime soon.Also those who have more info on the upcoming trial, please do share on what is exactly going to happen.As for those who are goign to see Mr.Lee, please share with us what is Mr.Lee doing to ensure this issues is solved soonest possible.
If the actual units that sold is lower than display, sometime might be good for developer since the material cost going to increase. They could raise the unit cost and won't burden them much compare to unable to raise $$$ on those units already sold
That is very true.In due time, once the development starts,they are definately going to increase the price of those units which has yet been sold and with that, it woint affect the quality.Our worry is whether this is going to be delayed endlessly as everyone knows, once the case goes to court,it may drag and drag for years.So whoever has the details on what is goign to happen in the court hearing soon, please share.When is the next hearing?And till then is Mr.Lee doing something?Can someone ask this to Mr.Lee and share with everyone.
They can increase price but who is going to buy as Nusmetro have such a bad reputation already. Their name is so notorious in Penang property and if they were to offer discounts or whatsoever I doubt people will buy them.
I hope you won't sound so pessimestic.What makes you say Nusmetro is notorious?It is not that they have swinddled our money and left or sitting down doing nothing after taking our money.Lets not be emotional and share news with each other.Btw,i too spoke to Mr.Lee.He will be sending all the genuine buyer a letter stating the details of what is happening and in fact they are pursuing for another court order,this time getting relevant documents from the land office to be handed over to the judge.They are awaiting the date for this before sending us the letter.
why Mr Lee ? He just a worker or so call manager of Nusmetro.The director- Thomas Chan should come forward..his is the one to know the whole issued...Thomas Chan..we understand u r also reading this blog. We just need your HELP..NOT everything pass it to Mr Lee...
haha... of coz... pass it to Mr.Lee la... else hire him for wat wo...
better don't hire and evrything do by Thomas Chan....
!!!!
Wat to do jus wait lo...
else all purchaser unite more than the squatter and call the squatter get off and kick start the project lo...:(...
Agreed ! Thomas Chan should tell us more instead of Mr Lee.It same as Henry Butcher's Director Teoh Poh Huat instead of the sales agents. All of them get salary from their big boss.
Anyone had received letter send out by Nusmetro on explaination?
hi guys..
i understand that some msg in this blog reply by numestro staff. thats y got backing for wat u all guy complain.. plz to numestro staff, dun make us (buyer) more head-ache..
Anyone knows the update on the new court order?
i went to the site just now (30 June 2008).i dont see any sign for the construction will start tomorrow (1st July 2008)as Mr Lee and sales staff told me.So...its means i still need to wait and wait, listen to them again ?
Anyone can say that they will move in by 1st July or any other dates, but the truth is Nusmetro cant move in unless they get a Vacant Possesion of the said land and thus' get the court order to remove the squatters. If you dont get the VP there is no way you can get them to move out. Not even in September 08, unless of course the court rules in favour of the dev.
Looking at the summary of the hearing, I doubt nusmetro can move in by this year at least. Telling us that they will move in is just buying time. It depends whtr buyers are still have the means n time to sell to them. Nusmetro must find a way to talk to the squatters n find a way to settle them. The longer they take n the more they instigate the squatters the higher will their demands be.
Can someone call up Nusmetro and tell them to just go ahead and meet the squatters demand ASAP. They can always hike up the OASIS price for those new buyers to have yet to sign S&P to cover the new expenses. By them simply issuing another court order,waiting for next trial and etc, its only going to cause more havoc and making the buyers to loose confidence. PDC,IJM are coming up with new projects soon and if something doesnt happen soon,i dont think ppl will be hesitant to loose a bit of money now then more later.
Hope i can witdraw back my money from the SnP and use the money as down payment for others projects.
No confident with Oasis
Anyone had receive the letter?
Are there any reason why anyone wld expect the letter? What would you think they will write to tell the buyers?
Are they going to tell that we have got the title for the land but cld move in bcause we cant get the VP since there has been an injunction?
Or...again, give a time frame that they will move in indue time, and then do a drama show, with heavy machinery awaiting to move in at the site- having policeman, politicians and residence in the presence...make us think that the squatters are only their hindrance and will be settled in due time.
I am a little concern about the brutal ways the dev. is doing things. cont....
Innitially, I was told by my friend whc is part of the squatters, that the first few times when they had the meeting with the dev. one of the big 2..DIRECTORS had bluntly uttered that the squatters are the most tiny bit of problem they will have to face,he has made reference to their earlier project in Jelutong, which they even manage to settle many more squatters whc compromise many hardheaded gangsters there. This in turn has resulted the squatters here to make a pledge that they wont give in easily to Nusmetro...cont
If at all there is a settlement reached between them, whc wouldnt come cheap at this point, there is another hindrance!!! The VP was not obtained!! You dont received the VP not bcause of the squatters as Nusmestro is trying to show the buyers, VP hasnt been obtained because the transfer of land is done incorrectly. There is a question that the state have no right to sell the land since that land belongs to the federal govt. and there has been a great sum whch is purportely paid by nusmetro but doesnt seems to apprear in the states account.
What I think Nusmetro is trying hard to do now is, get the squatters to move out so that they can occupy the land and try their luck to start work even without obtaining the VP.
Hence, law is as no use if there is no proper enforcement to it, they will go on building. They will start tackling issues along the way, like if bankers query abt VP b4 disbursing buyers endfinancing.
At the end of the day, when everythg is completed, they will have problems obtaining OC, and at that point they will have the buyers voices in pressuring the authorities in getting OCs.On the other hand they will tell buyers that they have completed the building but it is the Govt. or the authorities who s not giving the OC. Well, they have draw down almost 90% from the bank at that time.
racing, are you saying we all shld just forget about waiting any longer and just withdraw from this project immediately?I too am not bothered about the letter per say, all i want is the project to kick-off legally.
racing, when do you plan to withdraw since u have so much frustration with this project?
Each one of us have to make our own decision, basically I am not frustrated, never have! I gave Nusmetro sometime just for the benefit of doubt. The reason I wrote is to tell everyone what is the current situation because I sense that many buyers are not aware and can be taken with endless meaningless reasons. Many has immediately applied and sign the loan agreement and now are stuck...redrawing means loosing 10%. As for me, I did not even apply for loan although Numestro been calling me & giving my contact no. to various bankers....I told them that you have not even taken possession of the land, what's the hurry?? Now, what about other fellow buyers, those whom are not aware, feels that everything has to be done fast, with endless calls from Nusmetro & their fellow bankers....this could be considered a scam too, why haven,t they told buyers that they couldn't have the possession and there is no need to sign for loan yet rather than urging them to take up loan and be stuck with them now. Back to someones earlier "?" why would you want to know whether I have redraw or not, look at whether each one of us can afford it or not..afford to loose 1%, loose 10% now, or take our chances, each one of us are not the same, what I can afford you might not and vice versa. The most important thing now, is someone has to make clear of the real scenario...many buyers are not aware, buying a house and all the implication is not easy to understand...its a jungle out there.
Oh ya!! do you mean to ask when I will redraw from this project or redraw from posting in this blog???
I like, myself to be made perfectly cleared here.
Confuse!! you message have conflict information. one hand your message so confident that project will not success while on the other hand will not withdraw. i would think you are kind of rich which does not care of the 10%
Confused, you definately are confused as your nick names depicts -:) What racing is saying is this. To those who have already taken loan, you CANNOT redeem back a single cent that you have given to the developer, which means u will be loosing 10% if you backoff from the project. To those who have signed the S&P but yet to confirm the loan, if you get the loan rejects, you can deem back 9%. To those who have yet to even sign S&P, you are only goign to loose the booking fee i reckon whcih is 1%. So, conclusion, everyone decision has to be your own based on whether you can afford the lost.BUT, everyone as racing says needs to be aware on what is happening. The project simply cannot get started if the squatters area is not cleared and the squatters ppl will not clear the land unless you give them what they want or if developer gets the VP of the land of which is doubtful because the land ownership is still a questionmark now. I hope whoever is still confused will be clearer now.
Since this problem has no end. Why dont we bring this issue to the local assemblyman? Does anyone knows any politician? This seems to be the best solution.
I agree with what the Politician is saying. The best approach for us as buyers is to go and talk to the Politicians so that they can advise us. They either get the developer to give back all our money in regardless of whetehr we have signed or have not signed the S&P or help the developer to come in consenses with the squatters so that eveyrthing is clear.I am sorry as i do not know any Politicians but i would be glad if someone can pursue this.
I tot Lim Guan Eng has already been pulled into this? Which other politician do you want to call?
hi all,
i just pass by the site..stil nothing happen ..ai......
The politicians are only now concerned over the welfare of the squatters, we need to highlight to the politicians that there are buyers who have already paid 10% and waiting eagerly to get the project kicked-off any this delay is causing unneccessary and unfair anxiety to the buyers.We need to communicate this to the politicians soones possible
Mr Lee told us last week that they will send a letter to the all purchasers but until today (saturday)...NOTHING !i also call up Henry butcher office to seek Mr Teoh Poh Huat (Director) for help cause they are the marketing agent for the Oasis but the secretary told me " please go to the developer office... Mr Teoh is not the person in charged.. we are the marketing agents only" So..call to the developer office..The answer wat i get is " u will receive the letter by next week" All of them are playing football and treat us as the ball to kick....shall we complaint it to the REDHA or CAP ?
Perhaps you guys can be like serina bay buyers where they collectively hire lawyers to go against the developer. Since in this case numestro does not have the VP yet they start selling, the court might order numestro to refund all buyers in full. Name Henry Butcher as defendant as well for misleading the buyers into parting their monies.
good idea. let them kan cheong a bit and show them we buyers mean business! I cant understand how henry butcher can behave like dat oso..
Good!
Lets us meet together; please confirm time, venue, which lawyer to hire, to tie in Lim Guan Eng and media. Get Sinchiew and KwangHwa reporters together to publish the latest negotiation.
Let us push the developer and Henry butcher.
i 100% agree wif u.. Let everybody know wat goin on inside numestro n henry butcher..cheated our money!
come on... wake up...
you think the chief minister of penang lim guan eng is so damn free to tie with you ah...
don't dream la...
still wanna call up politician and media... talk that since long time but still nothing happen...la...
talk talk talk....
now u have two choice:
1. treat that as investment
If u win u get ur ROI increase.
2. withdraw out and buy/invest to other property. with the losing of 1% and some legal fees (for those havent sign loan)
Lim Guan Eng has been pulled into this? Seriously? Then how come no reaction has been taken? Is Jeff Ooi into this too? I think Jeff might be able to help........... we dont want to vote for a party leader who only look for one sided interests........... we as buyers are as anxious as the squatters......... we want a fair deal..............
i am so sorry to heard that The Oasis project..although i am not the purchaser of the said project BUT i want to share with you guys about the so call agent- Henry Buthcer..I bought the Ratu Mutiara project-The Costal Tower,Tanjung Bungah back to 2002, i have been told by HB's staff Angeline Woo that the unit i bought is fully seaview and there will be NOT OTHER NEW PROJECT will come up in front of the Coastal Tower, so i trust her words and bought that unit. Now..in front of the Coastal Tower u will see Waterfront Condo and Surin Condo (HB also marketing this project last year).I called Angeline Woo when the time we obtained OC for Coastal Tower (2005),she told me that she are not aware about other projects.So..the Henry Buther can not be trust.This a mistake for me to trust them !
To the victim of henry butcher...the basic rule is never trusts the sales agent. They will always say 'flowers are always fragrant'. Back in 8yrs ago, i remembered a sales agent described to the extend that she could elaborate the birds flew above the sky and sweet bird sound...! I did not buy that.
To the pathetic guy saying 'talk, talk, talk..' up there, he seems like a developer. He does not care about those have already signed up and paid a big sum of money there. Did you mean we should continue investing knowing that it does not bear fruits in due time ? We talked and gave ideas and if ideas are actinable we will act on it.. including calling up Lim guan eng for help.
What have you done? being pethatic and continue to be pethatic while waiting for your money to be burnt off ?
aiyo... angeline woo not angeline jolie oh... haha...
she is the sr.business developement manager of HB lolz...
so what... this is marketing strategy ma...
is like tat ke la... else u can't c HB so damn rich as most high ranking international asset consultant in malaysia la...
even u go PC fair, shooping mall, insurance... all also talk big so that they get customer ke la...
else they no sales eat wat oh..."makan ape"? ppl also "cari makan shj".. haha...
wat to do... this world is like tat... so trust urself any not agents...
Yes, i agree! To the guy..'talk, talk and talk' up there, it is you who should wake up. Please give constructive ideas and not leading us to the death terrain.
By telling us to continue investing is so irresponsible and inhumane!!
there is point on that also...
have u all ever get any help from politician rather then just confess here?
the ridiculous guy/woman "talk talk talk" up there do not ask u to continue investment...
is option there 1 or 2....
please read careful...
I also hope for a change...
But no one here will b hero to use up their time to ask the politician for help.
if yes u already famous... in the media...
I think u all should try to contact Jeff Ooi on this.......... copying him on this blog address. So that someone with authority will be pulled in. Below is Jeff Ooi's details as I found out from his blog...........
Email Jeff Ooi:
* jeffooi.screenshots@gmail.com
* jelutong @ jeffooi.com
Mobile: +6012-2956356
The Henry Butcher in other country is very professional, the will do the homework before they commit to become the marketing agent for those developer. Last time I and my friends visit Australia, my friend is planning to buy a house in Melbourne, Australia and we get contact to HB australia. We are very impress that the presentation from agent regarding ROI, the population growth in that area developer background, transport services, risk and etc.
Those data proved to be solid untill now since my friend purchase the unit 3 years ago. Compare to HB penang when I'm looking for the units in Penang Oasis and D Piazza, I believe the agents and HB penang is not doing the homework well. The D'Piaza developer, their process is not so organize and not so professional like IJM. For Oasis case, the land title haven't been approve, HB dare to commit become nusmetro sales agent. I believe alot of people purchase Oasis condo, part of the factor is because Henry Butcher as branded name.
As some one mention above, if the developer fail to settle the issues, u all can put HB as defendant and HB should responsible and pay for their mistakes. U think HB can be easily run out from their responsible? Sorry no way. It will depend how you all handle it.
Just get an advise from expert. Hope it will help.
I get the update status letter from Nusmetro.
They said that they planned to have summary judgement on 31 July 2008 (fixed already).
They show the progress as well.
They said want to start construction July/August 2008.
They just need 22 months to complete the project.
So, I think they can make it and we going to earn 30 to 50k due to petrol hike.
Let's wait and see summary judgement on July 31 again...
hi! nusmetro already send letter to all purchaser to explain on the issues...
I already received it...
as I can see at the site...
some of the houses there already demolish...
And there will b a hearing on end on this month...
just to inform....
yeah...agree with bms...
It will happen soon...
as wat the talk talk talk said:
u either wait and gain
or redraw out with other better project.
Ur choice...no one force u...
not even blog from here...
can force u...
make ur own ideas choices...
I still confidence with the oasis
BMS, skipper. U r back. Long time did not find your comment here. :) I still not receive the letter yet.
YES YES YES... finally I received the letter sent to me yesterday.......... Have been waiting for too long such an explanation from Nusmetro. At least know I am convinced that Nusmetro is serious about Oasis.......... and I start to feel good about it. Lets wait and see what happens on July 31!
nice to know that some of you still stay with oasis, realy hope that nusmetro can build a good quality condo in a short lead time.
realy hope that they able to overcome all this and everything will run smooth.
Yoyo...actually I check the blog everyday....I am there everyday...So eager...but not too relieve also...let see how the thing happen. I really like the strategy location and nice condo...
Nusmetro...is your showtime...
yaya... same as me... bms...
me too.. looking at the blog
seeing wat happening all around..
Is nusmetro showtime... now..
haha...
after the settle the squatter it will time for us to talk about the others to improve the oasis.
Just to share.. I when for badminton inside Putra Place that is next to Villa Emas. There is a badminton court there and they charge RM9/= per hours.
I hope that Nusmetro will consider on a badminton court for renting as to earn some money for the oasis maintenance... rather then Squash Court where not much ppl will be interested on that...
of coz.. if have boths will b the best la...
This HB is the big name company, they should check first about this project b4 marketing to ppl. know got prob they juz want take hand off n dun wan to "tanggung".. HB in malaysia not realy professional the agents there juz lier n if got prob they will talk ruth to you back..
lili
Yes, I also received a letter from Nusmetro yesterday. The content of the letter is what they told me when I went to their office last time. I'm not sure they will take their words or not. Yes, they did tell me they only take 22 months to complete their part which is only 700 sqft. The rest 400+ sqft is done by another company. That company will only take around 4 months to extend the unit to become 1000+ sqft. If this is the case, I'm not sure how is the quality of The Oasis. Or, this is the normal duration to complete one condo. But don't forget, there is one Jacuzzi @ 14th floor. This is not an easy work to complete it. Of cause, I hope Oasis can be a quality condo in penang.
The 22months to finish a condominium is usual in penang as they already use to it to build high rise building very fast.
Actually, I don't really care there is a jacuzzi at 14 floors or not. Even if they scrap it I won't feel upset.
i stay at bayswater & everyday i observe platino construction progress, found that the pilling & ground work already take bout 6months, and only they put the cement for a floor they will wait for >3days to let the cement dry then only proceed for nxt stage.
i believe that nusmetro can complete the project on time coz the wall is using pre-cast concrete panel (lego method), but the problem is how are they going to control the quality since they have short lead time.... hope that they will put quality at the 1st place
To the victims of Henry Butcher,i would like to share with u all that in Penang there still have a lots real estate agency,if u having any proplem,u also can rise up and get the advice from them about the projects marketing by HB.Please be aware people like Teoh Poh Huat, Angeline Woo and Helen Tan (real name is Teoh Poh Ean cause she dont want people know that she is sister to Teoh PH) cause they are in this market so many years and also know well how to market the projects.
If I not mistaken, The Oasis is the 1st high rise project for Nusmetro. They only used to build a landed terrace house in mother land. For high rise, 30+th floor, high dense... I think they have no much experience on it. I also not care about the Jacuzzi @ 14th floor. I more prefer gym room, reading room, game room build @ 14th floor instead of Jacuzzi. Just imagine that, you are looking at the sea/penang bridge ... beautiful view when you doing your gym or reading, just like a Celebrity Gym Center in Gurney plaza...so cool! Jacuzzi can be build near or beside swimming pool... wet activities group together in wet area. Just read the updated news, according to the Bank Negara representative said that BLR will be increased in this July. Stress and stress...
yes agree with abc...
wet activities should b group together..at down.
I also prefer gym room or reading room to be in 14th floor...
is really a disaster if 14th floor with jacuzzi... make the condo wet everywhere and mess...
yes. if jacuzzi move to pool side then will solved lift wet issue, coz most of the ppl go swimming + jacuzzi at the same time.
with such plan it will also save cost for jacuzzi pump & pipping cost and in the same time 13floor ppl will not worry bout the water leaking.
any suggesting on the BBQ area??
if the BBQ area move to pool side this will prevent visitor simply walk in high rise building and more privacy for high rise resident.
Ya agreed... the BBQ area should also be move to other place instate of at 14 floor as it will b a havoc that ppl will walking up & down and smokes will all over the place and for the floor near to 14 will deeply affected...
The 14 floor should reserve as gym room, multi purpose hall, or etc.. for relaxation place for residents only....
Those BBQ N' jacuzzi will jus create alot issue where alot of outsider will b in N' out. N' residents will hav no privacy.
any news updated?i go around the site everthing since like same.....not much different..have u all sign the loan d?i stil not yet sign..any recommance???
Dont sign yet, we dont know what will happen after the hearing n future.. juz wait n see. if still no confirmation i think better you take your money back.. i think that is a better way for you..
mayling
dont worry,loan application is very fast 1,for current condition either redraw or wait and do nothing until we realy see the starting of the ground work then only proceed for nxt step.
ya... of coz... not loaning from bank 1st... else u will lose the customer bargaining power. Don't worry,
When developer start the ground work then alot of bank will start calling u for loan from their bank!
And loan normally will approved very fast if u provide all full details that they request and meet their basic requirement.
ya dont worry, dont sign the bank loan...becoz u dont need it at all, this project will never start!!
i think Ah Long it self also have attitude problems,i found that he always drop by diff projects blog & leave -negative comment (with no point to support) eg : ask ppl dun buy this project,this & that is bad,this project wont start...
hi,
ah long,pls behave yourself..hehe..just now i pass by again the site..stil same..once i free i alway go and have a look..hehe..hope that the developer will start soon...
hi ester,
i think developer wont do anything until the court hearing by end of this month,is better that you went there after the hearing else there will be wasting your time.
hi,
cos they sent usthe letter that 22 july will startwork...so i ..heheh
okok...thanks..
This developer just gif blank promises.. lier just nothing will start on 22 july. they think can still hold you money n if the court not success they just take our money n disappear.. We got nothing....
don't worry la... we worry also no point right ?
The damage is already done. Just hope for the best.