Setia Vista

Setia Vista, the latest edition of SP Setia's list of project in Penang located on a 8.4ha site in Relau. Setia Vista comprises 206 double storey terrace homes and 12 semi-detached houses, built-up area starting from 1,697 sq.ft.

Setia Vista - Vista Carinata, Vista Grandis, Vista Acacia, Vista Calophy, Vista Tecoma

Property Project : Setia Vista
Location : Relau, Penang
Property Type : Terrace, Semi-Detached
Built-up Area : 1,697 - 1,748 sq.ft
Land Area : 20' x 70'
Total Units : 218
Developer : Setia Promenade Sdn Bhd

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October 24, 2009 at 9:21 PMUnknown: I'm going to cancel and return my booking on Vista Acacia (intermedite) to the developer next week.

Anyone interested to take up?
Send me an email (jason09.penang@gmail.com) before 28 Oct.
October 27, 2009 at 10:20 PMUnknown: hi there, is your receipt of the booking fee directly from SP Setia? It so, your contract with S.P Setia is effective from the date of the 1st receipt irrespective of whether your SPA date is June or Sept 2009. Post this question to the acting lawyer and ask him ' Does the receipt served as a binding contract between the buyer and the developer and so is the date of the receipt? i.e. your contract is effective with the developer from date of the said receipt!
October 29, 2009 at 8:26 AMSetiaVista Purchaser: Hi all,

Has anyone received a letter for upgrade package? I would like to know your view on the price vs package, is the package worth more than RM 9K ?

Thanks.
October 29, 2009 at 9:08 AMVista: SetiaVista,
What is the package that they offer? I still did not receive the letter.
October 29, 2009 at 10:05 AMSetiaVista Purchaser: 3 additional aircon points + piping etc.
6 additional 13A sockets
1 Ceiling fan point
2 telephone points
October 29, 2009 at 10:30 AMVista: Wow.. I think 9K is quite expensive... Let assume:

3 additional aircon points = 3 x RM200 = RM600
3 additional aircon piping + installation = 3 x RM300 = RM900
6 additional 13A sockets = 6 x RM150 = RM900
1 ceiling fan point = RM200
2 telephone points = 2 x RM200 = RM400
Assume change the switch box = RM1000

Total around RM4000

Maybe I might wrong as outdated on the labour and material cost.
October 29, 2009 at 10:46 AMSetiaVista Purchaser: I also think it is way too expensive, that is why I would like to ask for opinion from you all.
Even if I add in the cost to repaint the house due to hacking, I still don't think the price is reasonable.
Any contractor here to comment?

Actually, I wanted to query and ask them to break down the cost, but I doubt they will entertain me.
Anyone already asked them?
October 29, 2009 at 10:52 AMsinofi: Perhaps they took into account the inconvenience n hassle of hacking the walls n
ceiling that we owners will have to do? Most times when we hack n patch the finished result is not perfect.
October 29, 2009 at 8:44 PMnat: Yeah, i also think it too expensive. they shouldnt took into account the hassle of hacking cost we should encounter.

we buying house from them, they already profit. they getting more and more unscrupulous !

Dear vista and setiavista,

Are you snp any problem like what ‘nelly’ mention ? Stamp according to 5pct date ?
Any delay ?
October 29, 2009 at 10:28 PMVista: Nat,
I believed all purchaser for Phase 1 and 2 will have stamp date on Sept. Those purchaser paid earlier like in May sure will have this issue like "nelly" mentioned.
October 30, 2009 at 7:51 AMVista: Just received the upgrade letter yesterday. So disappointed with their offer. The cost for upgrade should be lower compare to what we will need to do in future as they does not require to hack the wall, patch and re-paint.

Probably this is their golden opportunity to earn more from purchaser.
October 30, 2009 at 1:22 PMUnknown: this is not their core business. they sure will earn more from purchaser. per house few thousand of profit is a small amount for them. i don't think they will only mark up few hundred of profit. they have whole bunch of professional to feed.
if feel comfortable with hack the wall, then ask normal electrician to do the addition points after house completion.
November 9, 2009 at 9:48 AMVista: Hi All,

Just want to find out whether your bank had release the 10% for Phase 2a completion (Foundation work)? Mine still not yet.
December 4, 2009 at 12:56 AMUnknown: Dear all,
Does anyone know what is progress of the SV site construction ?
Heard that the 1 residence project by Ideal property is selling like hot cakes. Not sure is Setia Vista phase 3 and 4 is affected or not.
December 4, 2009 at 8:34 AMVista: SP posted update in their website.

http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_vista/pfs_carinata_progress.htm
http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_vista/pfs_grandis_progress.htm
December 4, 2009 at 8:44 PMAnonymous: Anyone received the tiles upgrading package? Do you think RM6300 to upgrade to 600x600 polished porcelain tiles in both floors plus 300x600 porcelain tiles with bull nose grinded edges valued for money?
December 5, 2009 at 7:20 AMScott: Hi tze,

What i heard that phase 3 already fully sold and the price for phase 1,2, and 3 was increased to RM638K (Phase 1,2) and RM658K for phase 3 respectively.
December 5, 2009 at 7:28 AMScott: Dear all,

Anyone here had signed the upgrading package to increase the electrical point.

ling88,

Ya! i also received the tiles upgradeing package. So, anyone can advice us the package is worst more than RM6500.00? Thanks.
December 5, 2009 at 7:54 AMScott: Dear all,

Below is a some article talk about the porcelain tiles for your reference.

The main reasons to choose porcelain are set out below:

Larger tiles can now be produced up to 2mx2m to provide an elegant uncluttered finish with simple lines and a contemporary and spacious feeling.
Wet rooms and showers are perfect for porcelain because it is impervious to water penetration.
It is highly resistant to chipping and scratching and lasts for many many years. The tile is a homogenous mix so damage just blends in.
It is frost resistant so may be used outdoors. In colder countries it is the external material of choice.
Once installed it is very low maintenance, easy to clean, resistant to mold grown, stains and bleaching and does not need sealing.
It is even stronger than granite. Granite is considered the benchmark when comparing very hard stone. Porcelain is 25% stronger than granite.
December 7, 2009 at 12:31 AMUnknown: Hi Scott,
May i know the price increase is by Setia or its subsale price ?
My personal opinion the upgrade of the eectricalpoint is not worth the moneY.
December 7, 2009 at 12:52 AMUnknown: Hi all,
Anyone know why ppl still opt for Setia Vista 2 sty (phase 3 & 4) compare to SPI 3 sty , eventhough the SPI subsale price is only 50-60K different ?
Could it be its 5/95 package is easier for the new purchaser,without S&P & lawyer fee, stamp duty ?
December 7, 2009 at 10:26 AMVista: Hi All,
Any idea how much does it cost per piece for polish porcelain tiles for lowest and medium range grade?
December 7, 2009 at 10:38 AMScott: Hi tze,

It is by Setia. The price had increased for phase 1,2,and 3.
December 11, 2009 at 11:01 AMSetiaVista Purchaser: Hi all owners, may I know your opinion on the floor tiles upgrade package? Is it worth the money?
December 12, 2009 at 5:03 PMUnknown: Hi Scott,
My personal opinion its not worth for me. And i dont mind to have existing 500X500 floor tiles. What i concern most is the balcony, the SP really poor at this area, as the balcony is not fully cover.Do your know whether for the balcony, can we come out from the master room and is there any tiles cover the balcony floor ?
Existing show house shown we can access to the balcony from the master room and also there is a tiles on the balcony floor.
December 12, 2009 at 6:37 PMScott: Hi Tze,

As what i know there is no tiles cover the balcony floor and can't come out from the master room. If we want, so we need to do by ourself. But, good new is that we can convert to Balcony (this is what i know).
December 13, 2009 at 12:56 AMUnknown: Hi Scott,
Means we can convert to Balcony by our own ?
U buy the Carinata or Grandis ?
December 14, 2009 at 3:32 PMScott: Hi Tze,

Yes! This is what i heard.
December 16, 2009 at 3:10 PMbryan: Hi all,
recently, i was wondering why setia vista are hot and till all being sold out. the road access is bad, and so expensive up to RM660k for 2-storey lousy design (outside look like a low cost terrace)
Meanwhile if you are topping up with RM50k you can get a 3-storey beautiful design (example, sp setia island, bayan residences).
Now i know why, that is because the 5/95 package that give you the convinent not to pay for installlment till completion. i guess a lot young ppl buying this for speculation and want to re-sale after completion.
i can foresee this property will have a sharp fall in price probably sell at RM600k after completion.
in fact , you can do a vote here, how many ppl are buying for stay? i guess out of ~200 units , only 20units are for own stay.
December 16, 2009 at 4:43 PMsinofi: I don't think that's entirely true. Before the bank approves your loan,they do a background check on you to see if u can tanggung the mortgage payments. So if u are not 'financially strong' u won't be able to buy the house as the bank would not approve the loan.
December 16, 2009 at 4:48 PMbryan: haha, nowaday banker is desperate for business, as long as you want to borrow, very high chance you can get it even you just earn like $4k a month
December 16, 2009 at 4:54 PMVista: Anyone take the tiles upgrade package? I think it will be quite expensive if want to upgrade later during renovation.
December 16, 2009 at 10:15 PMJerry: I had taken the upgrade package. 6.5k is reasonable for me since it includes both floors + staircase. The diff for staircase is the bull nose vs strip. Saw the sample quite nice.
December 17, 2009 at 6:03 AMUnknown: Bryan,
Can u provide me info which bank can borrow u up to 500-600K based on earning RM4K/mth ?
U must be singing inside here.
Where u can get a new dbl sty terrace with below 600K right now in Island (except T.Kumbar/B.Pulau) ?
GI Joe
What makes u so envy with the good sale of Setia Vista ?
If u r not a poor investor,then u you must be poor house owner which u mean doesnt afford to buy any. Else u will not condemm other ppl buying choice. Money belong to the buyer, they decide what they want and not the red eye ppl (u know the meaning in Hokkien ? )
December 17, 2009 at 10:58 AMbryan: i asked public bank before.

to me, the house design is very urgly & out date if compare to one residence which modern and spacious.
if you use built up area to calculate, setia vista is way too expensive compare to one residence:-
OneResidence Phase2: 2530sqft. RM670k ~ RM730k
Setia Vista Phase2/3: 1750sqft. RM580k ~ RM600k (if minus out ~40k of 2 years banks interest that sp setia pay on behave 1st but in fact is already charged to your house price)
December 17, 2009 at 8:23 PMkkong: Dear vista,

i think is not worth it, porcelin is better than ceramic, but still not as good as homogenous.

And, it a polished porcelin,meaning it very very slippery.
December 27, 2009 at 12:56 AMdavid: Hi all,
May I know who are buying for stay? In fact, i bought for own stay and I wish to gather all future residents (those buy for invest also welcome) in order to discuss whether we would like to form a guarded environment like sunway bukit gambir. Please
let me know, at least we can start search for how to form the guarded env.
December 27, 2009 at 10:11 PMUnknown: HI David,
Are u the same David that bought the Zan Pvillion ?
December 31, 2009 at 1:14 PMdavid: Hi Tze,
yes, i am the one bought zan condo as well.

any idea why no one interested on forming guarded community?
December 31, 2009 at 2:48 PMScott: Hi Tze and David,

What i know from SP Setia, they will be provided 1 year free for security fee for us than we need to form a committee by our owner like condo and apartment.
December 31, 2009 at 4:18 PMdavid: HI Scott,
but i heard from Joanan (assitant sale manager) said, no more guarded provided for this project. can anyone double confirm?
December 31, 2009 at 4:53 PMVista: This is not professional at all. When we buy the house, they told will be provide guarded service for a year. They website also mentioned

"Guarded Community

A special consideration is placed on the security & safety of residents. Setia Vista homes’ is well-guarded within a guarded community with 24-hours security services and CCTV."

This kind of mis-lead purchasers.
January 3, 2010 at 10:31 AMUnknown: setia vista unable to design for guarded/gated community because above of carinata the land is belong to other developer. once the other developer starts the construction, the road need to be shared with setia vista already. For my information from setia staff, they are provide 1 year patrolling security guard service.
January 3, 2010 at 10:57 AMUnknown: Vista,

which sales staff told you have cctv and 24 hours security? my advise is you better clarify with the sales staff again.

The sales staff also told me the same as kt. they will provide patrolling security guard but they can't confirm whether they will provide guard house and cctv. i just treated without guarded/gated when i bought it (anyway it is individual title). if in future setia provide it then is an extra thing i earn.
January 6, 2010 at 5:36 AMUnknown: Hi KT,
Do u know the land above the carinata belong to which developer and what is the plan for that land ?
From the photo above, there is not much land already right ?
January 6, 2010 at 11:06 AMUnknown: tze,

i know the land is belong to setia vista's previous land owner but till today don't know which developer is going to buy the land. My friend he is in construction line and he told me that the land owner aggresively promoting to sell the land with layout plan.
January 6, 2010 at 1:53 PMJerry: Thanks John for providing these photos. Now I know the progress.
January 7, 2010 at 1:15 AMUnknown: David,

Do you mind advise me your email or personal contact. Would like to check with u about the Zan Pavilion project. Thanks.

You can email me at sschang1001@gmail.com

Best regards,
Catherine
January 9, 2010 at 3:40 PMdavid: Hi All,
Just wondering how is the road access for this project ? any new road to connect to SummerVilla Hill there?
and also, can anyone share with us once the beside carinate being taken up be any developer.
January 12, 2010 at 6:13 AMUnknown: Hi kt,
Pls inform us if u have any new update on the land beside the carinata since your fren is in contrator line. i believe the land owner must be selling it very high until SP didnt take it up.
January 13, 2010 at 12:31 AMUnknown: Did anyone notice,from above photo, seem like the built carinata is only 3 rows compare to the above masterlayout plan which have 4 rows ?
January 13, 2010 at 9:40 AMdavid: Anyone can share what is Bank loan package you have took like interest rate, lock time in term of how many years , amount of penalty ?
January 16, 2010 at 12:36 AMUnknown: Hi David,
I got from Public, the package is BLR-2.0% throughout tenure, zero interest till VP,lock in is 5years, penalty 3%.
Which bank package u took ?
I bought for my own stay. So the lock in period n penalty is not my concern.
U also bought Zan Pavillion right, so you took 2 loans ?
January 16, 2010 at 8:39 AMVista: Hi Tze,
You might want to contact your bank to revise the package. Should able to get BLR-2.2%. I assumed you got your loan approval last year around May/June time frame.
January 16, 2010 at 3:05 PMUnknown: Hi Vista,
I m phase 1 buyer.During that time al the bank given BLR-2.0%.Do you mean after u appeal,the bank revise for you to BLR-2.2% ?
Which bank u took and when you reviseit ?
I appeal previously but Public bank said unsuccessful.
January 16, 2010 at 9:41 PMVista: Hi Tze,

I'm from Phase 1 and same bank as you. I got mine revised to BLR-2.2%. I got to known from other bank that they revise the BLR-2.2% which trigger me to request that.
January 17, 2010 at 5:35 PMUnknown: Hi Vista,
Tks for the info. I will contact with the PB sales exec. tomorrow.
Can i know when u get it revise (which month) ?
January 18, 2010 at 10:00 AMdavid: Thanks Tze,
1st one i am taking from public bank, i am still searching for best package from setia vista. May i know any phase3 or phase4 unit owner can share the package they take?
January 18, 2010 at 8:03 PMVista: Hi Tze,
I got mine revised sometime in June.
January 19, 2010 at 10:45 AMAnonymous: I am new here, I got my housing loan from Ambank with BLR-2.3% last month
January 20, 2010 at 12:25 AMUnknown: Hi Vista,
I believe the Public can revise for you as during that time the bank still not release the $ to developer. The Public dont want to revise my current rate anymore, reason is only certain ppl who achieve their scoring able to revise to -2.2%. Cant proceed to others bank anymore as already bind to the locking period and penalty.

Hi Tham,
Which unit (phase 3 or phase 4)u bought ?

Hi David,
U mean already took the Public bank loan and still looking for others?What rate u got from Public ?
January 20, 2010 at 8:31 AMVista: Hi Tze,
Your bank already released $$$ to developer?
January 20, 2010 at 9:16 AMAnonymous: I bought phase 3, just received the stamped S&P. Date of completion 2011.
January 20, 2010 at 9:31 AMdavid: Hi Tham,
i bought phase 3 as well. Since there is no 24hours security service and is not guarded, i am a bit worry on that. should we request SP Setia to provide Alarm System as well (at least in upgrade package)?
the other solution i think of, is to request SP Setia to setup a temporary guard house (move-able) at the entrance of phase1/2/3, and provide 1 or 2 guard there at least for nite time.
January 20, 2010 at 11:15 AMVista: Hi David,
I taught SP will provide 24 hours security service for the first year?
January 20, 2010 at 6:18 PMdavid: Not 24 hours , probably just a few round of security car 'ronda' on specific time per day.
January 20, 2010 at 6:41 PMUnknown: Hi Vista,
The SP will request $ from bank base on the % of completed. I believe u also received the cc letter from SP requesting $ from bank right ?
January 20, 2010 at 9:54 PMVista: Hi Tze,
I did received the letter but so far bank haven't release the $$$ yet as the loan agreement had not stamp yet.
January 22, 2010 at 8:52 AMJerry: Hi Vista, Tze,
When did you receive the letter? I not yet receive. Mine is phase 2. Not sure if developer get $ from bank based on progress of unit or whole phase.
January 22, 2010 at 9:13 AMVista: Hi Jerry,
Received the letter few months back. I believed bank haven't release the $$ yet as loan agreement still not stamp yet. Normally you should receive notification (cc) from lawyer to bank for $$ release.
January 22, 2010 at 10:52 AMAnonymous: Good News, Phase 3 and Phase 4 will come with 2x2 Homogenous tile for living and dining, others remained 1.5x1.5 ceramic tile. Estimate project completed before mid of 2011, less than 1yr for house construction and 0.5yr for landscape and road.
January 22, 2010 at 11:00 AMUnknown: tham,

other area they provide 400mm ceramic tile. i don't think is 1.5 x 1.5..
January 22, 2010 at 4:12 PMJerry: Just saw the pictures of progress update at the website. The corner unit for phase 1 & 2 are being painted. Really fast. Why paint so early?
January 23, 2010 at 6:33 AMUnknown: Vista,
I confirmed with bank, they havent release $ yet to developer as they still waiting the letter from lawyer. But i already received few cc letter from SP requesting the $.

Hi SV buyer,
Pls propose to Setia to provide upgrade for alarm system.I believe if there is request from many buyers, SP will provide the package.

i wonder it is still on time to install the alarm system as the construction is really fast.

Hi Tham,
U got blr-2.3%, may i know is your unit under 5/95 package where all the fess is waive ?
January 24, 2010 at 6:09 AMUnknown: Hikt,
Do u have any info of the land beside the setia vista,which developer have taken up and what is the plan ?
January 24, 2010 at 11:05 AMUnknown: tze,

no news yet.
January 31, 2010 at 4:20 PMUnknown: Today pass by the Setia Vista area,notice there is another advertisement board nearby from Oasis for 3 sty semiD and terrace.Anyone know what is the price ?
February 5, 2010 at 12:53 PMUnknown: Hi Tze, I am new to this forum. Understand the Oasis has 28 units of Terrace (abt RM800K) and SemiD (abt RM1100K. Design seems good.
February 5, 2010 at 1:54 PMVista: Shouldn't that land suppose for low cost apartment? Or the low cost apartment will in between Setia Vista and Oasis?
February 5, 2010 at 8:59 PMUnknown: I believe you may be right about the low cost apartment location. The Oasis is located around the signboard post.
February 5, 2010 at 11:31 PMUnknown: Hi Strength,
Tks for the info.Do u know any of their websitecan view this Oasis new project ?
Hi Vista,
I believe the Setia low cost should be in between the Oasis and Setia vista phase 4.
February 9, 2010 at 1:48 PMUnknown: Apparently there is no website. Called up and understand the sales is very good. Limited units left, 3 storey Terrace (BU 3222 sq ft) at RM821K and 3 Storey Semi-D (3635 sq ft) at RM1188K. There is a roadshow at Queensbay Mall on 18/2/10
March 3, 2010 at 11:59 PMdavid: Hi All
Just figure out that the warranty period for setia vista is only 24mths , not 36 mths. Very disappointed. SOme more it is not come with guarded security service...bad project by sp setia.. SP SETIA no long a good brand.
March 4, 2010 at 6:05 AMUnknown: hi david,
u bought it for own stay or for investment ?
i have saw this 24 months before signing the S&P. SP Setia said the additional 12 months we additional given by them, but it was not govern in the S&P.
So far any ppl do subsale for this project ?
March 6, 2010 at 12:23 AMdavid: Tok,
Regardless for own stay or investment, nowaday, the key is security & safety. Don't you think so? In fact, i know a lot of young ppl bought for investment including tze ( i know he is not admitting it). I bought for my own stay since hardly can find a new 2 storey terrace in Bayan Lepas area nowaday.

Noted for those young ppl, be prepared for your invested setia vista, most likely you will get yourself burned. i can tell you the estimated price upon OC is around RM640k and will not have many people want on this location. take care!
March 6, 2010 at 1:12 PMSetiaVista Purchaser: I am really interested to know the reasons people decide to move from apartment/condo to landed properties.

I have heard many people saying "to upgrade lifestyle". For me, it is not so much of upgrading lifestyle but mainly because I want to get rid of the management and maintenance fee of the apartment. Furthermore, I want to own a piece of land that belongs to myself (individual title and not strata title). And also with a bigger family and kids, it is not so convenient to stay in apartment/condo anymore.

Seems like many people are looking for the concept of "gated and guarded (G&G)" even for landed properties nowadays.

If you are asking/looking for G&G, be prepared to pay a possibly much higher management and maintenance fee. G&G concept looks attractive when you purchase because they come with all types of facilities in a guarded community. But as years go on, you will feel the pain with the management and maintenance fee. You may not feel the pinch when the economy is good ... but when the economic downturn comes and some of us lose our jobs, we will be dreading. We need to pay for the loan and also the management and maintenance fee. Just imagine you are already paying such a high price for your landed property but yet still need to pay additional fee for so-called management to maintain your property. Furthermore, when your next generation occupies your property, they have to keep paying the fee. Also bare in mind that G&G comes with strata title.

What about having only guard service? It is a norm nowadays for landed-property developers to provide at least 1 year of guard service, but it is part of goodwill. Thereafter, the community itself will have to take charge.

Disclaimer: I am not saying that G&G concept is not good, but I am commenting based on my own perspective and preference. It really depends on individual preference.

I should say that SP has earlier promised to provide "24-hours security services and CCTV". I can show proof because I have printed out a copy of the Setia Vista features shown in the website dated 4 Jan 2010. If you go to SP website again now, you will not see this sentence anymore because they have removed this sentence. Even the hardcopy brochure mentioned about this. This is again very unprofessional act of a developer. I hope future residents here will work together to fight for our rights as promised to us when we bought the property.

On another topic, if you noticed the trend now, there are a lot of new landed property projects from Sungai Ara linking to Relau side and along Jalan Paya Terubong.
March 6, 2010 at 4:41 PMdavid: Agreed with SetiaVista, sp setia is not professional enugh, they should compensate us as what they describe is not match with what they actually sell to us.
for all the sv owner, echo what SetiaVista said "let together fight for the right we have as promised to us when we bought the property".

SetiaVista, can you lead this? i am joining u. what should we do next?
March 7, 2010 at 4:24 AMUnknown: hi david,
actually i bought for my own stay as well. frankly, i dont prefer to have the G&G as it need additional monthly maintenance fees.Important for landed is freehold title.
May be we should ask Setia for the explaination of their earlier promised "24 hrs security service and CCTV".
Compensation is unlikely,unless it was capture in S&P. Infact there are not much choice of dbl sty terrace (freehold) in bayan lepas area.
March 7, 2010 at 8:29 AMdavid: Hi Tok,
I dun prefer G&G as well, but i would like to have at least some level of security like setia pearl island. This give me safe feeling stay in my house especially when my family member is alone at home or especially at nite/midnite. You know house in greenlane always get breaked-in and i dun hope it repeated in SV.
March 7, 2010 at 8:21 PMVista: By the time move in after renovation, the one year free service my end. Maybe we could start look into process of setting up our RA.
March 8, 2010 at 4:20 PMUnknown: Hi David,

You definite have the points to be worried about the security of your family. Relau is an area with high population of foreigner workers. I have been dealing a lot with these workers, they had paid a lot to come to M’sia to work and most of them are cheated by the agents. The threats are always there that there would be a few of them that would look for opportunity to maximize their earning during their stay here. Without any transport, their first choice will always be residents who are near to them. Touch wood and hope that SV will not be their targets.

Irrespective whether you are buying SV for investment or own stay, the guarded community concept introduced by SP earlier would somehow bring up the value or security level of the property. It is only sad to say here that SP is quite unethical in this case. I don’t know about others but for my case, they promised and ensured that SV would be provided with the basic guarded facilities and system same as SPI. All the houses (phase 1-3) would be built on an elevated ground with on entry point whereby a guard house +CCTV will be stationed there. They even showed us with their marketing video clip about their building concept. Can they just manipulate their buyers like that? Promise something that they cannot deliver. Last time, I was prepared to pay more for SV because I was attracted by their additional features that are different from other developer nearby. I think my decision would have been wrong.

This guarded community concept has been marketed by them through their website and their marketing video. They cannot just deny it like that. They can’t just treat the buyer like computer software. Just “Undo” or “delete” the statement from the website and assume that everything is back to OK. I think it was only fair that they shall compensate us something back either monetary or in kind such as improving the security in each house by providing a proper CCTV/Security grills or some other security system. I think all buyers should defense their rights and voice out their opinion. These require pressures from the residents themselves to make a positive change. Otherwise, this thing will keep on happen to M’sian only.

Lastly to David/SetiaVista or anyone else, I’ll support your calls for the improvement of the security level in SV. Just include me in.
March 8, 2010 at 6:31 PMSetiaVista Purchaser: Hi David, J and all owners,

Good to have people in the same frequency. If you don't mind, you can email me at setiavista@gmail.com.

Let's discuss in private as I believe some SP personnel are monitoring this website.

Thanks.
March 8, 2010 at 11:53 PMdavid: It is good to let SP Setia know this , else they will think this is not an issue and simply solve it by providing 1/2 time of patroling service only.

Anymore to join in? Better re-act quickly before "beras jadi nasi" (before they finish the construction).

my email address is blackdarkvirus@gmail.com. We will start gather email/contact(just send to setiavista@gmail.com and start discussion today.

PLEASE!PLEASE! VOICE OUT!!!
March 9, 2010 at 6:04 AMUnknown: Hi all,
Anyone have the email contact of their GM(Rajoo) or CEO (TanSri Liew) ? so that we can voice it to them directly that we have been cheated by the 'Penang sales division' on the video clip or the earlier Setia website on the CCTV and guarded service ? I only have the CEO secreatary email only.
my email is santagurney@gmail.com. Can we gather and make complaint together to their top guy.

Hello Setia personel,
Pls bring this to your management prior our complaint, as we might trigger your CEO first.
March 9, 2010 at 7:27 PMdavid: i have 2 friends bought SV, also joining us. Now we have 7 ppl, let gather till 20ppl, we will go to their office. Meanwhile, we can try to send complain through any channel to their main office in KL.

List:-
setiavista@gmail.com
blackdarkvirus@gmail.com
santagurney@gmail.com
Vista (can you provide us your email?)
J (can you provide us your email?)
ian_tan@yahoo.com
mike1975@hotmail.com

LET FIGHT TOWARD OUR SWEET HOME!!
March 10, 2010 at 1:27 AMVista: Mine is svista8888@gmail.com
March 10, 2010 at 5:15 AMUnknown: Hello Setia Penang (Yeoh Chee Beng),
Hope there is someone from Setia is viewing this issue here.
Pls review on this promise with your top guy in KL or Penang before we make complaint to them. Give us an solid explanation on this. When upgrade things, Setia send us letter timely to inform the cost incurred and when downgrade (remove the Guarded service and CCTV),Setia do it "QUIETLY" without informing the buyers. What kind of branded developer you are ? Dont your all feel shame on this and how many cost you can save from this downgrade ?

I believe Tan Sri Liew would like to know also why their Penang management doing such a shame things.

Hi all buyers,
I left the Setia KL email contact in office, i will try to send this blog website and complaint to Tan Sri Liew secreatary tonight or tomorrow morning. Hope can trigger Tan Sri on this (doing business on empty promise).
March 10, 2010 at 5:42 AMUnknown: Mine is joechrist888@gmail.com
March 10, 2010 at 12:06 PMNTN: Indeed, one of the selling points of this project was its concept of a guarded (not gated) community. SV's current website (under features) says "A special consideration is placed on the security & safety of residents". This confirms that SV is non-committal on their part as to what form or shape the security aspect will be implemented, if any.

I am interested to join for any action against this unethical move. My email is num2num@gmail.com
March 10, 2010 at 12:07 PMUnknown: really big issue here. u all sure that setia promised to provide CCTV for SV project? my sales person only promised me will provide a one year guarded sevice but never told me that got CCTV. this week i will go to setia office to view the video presentation again see whether got CCTV or not. will keep you all posted.
March 10, 2010 at 11:11 PMdavid: Good, welcome more people to join in. We will go to their office when gather 20ppl. Meanwhile, we can try to send complain through any channel to their KL main office.

Issue: SPSetia Penang is cheating SV buyers by removing 24hours guarded service & CCTV quietly while marketise SV as 24hours guarded service with CCTV.

List:-
setiavista@gmail.com
blackdarkvirus@gmail.com
santagurney@gmail.com
svista8888@gmail.com
joechrist888@gmail.com
ian_tan@yahoo.com
mike1975@hotmail.com
num2num@gmail.com
March 10, 2010 at 11:58 PMUnknown: Hi all,

I would like to make few things here simple & clear and hope that we are at the same wave length:-

1. Setia Vista will only provide 24 hours security service for the 1st year. It will be up to the future residents to decide what they are going to do for the rest of the years.
2. We are requesting SP to provide us the guarded community facility – one entry point & CCTV as promised in their websites.
3. We are asking for guarded community not gated community. Gated community is for property with strata title. That is different story. In order to enable guarded community in the future, the set up must be right from the beginning. It won’t work if it has too many entry/exit points. Furthermore, it is legally wrong to block any car from entering the premise of a guarded community without the strata title. The guard house and CCTV just to monitor the movement of vehicle/people – better than none.
4. Our complaint must be based on facts. We are not going to create something out of nothing. (To SetiaVista & those who have printed out a hardcopy of the previous contents in the website. Please be remembered to keep it. That is a very important written document. I don’t have it at this moment as it was never in my mind before that a well established company like SP will use this type of backdoor tactic. Just silently deleted it after mentioned by SetiaVista on 31/12/09 thru this blog)
5. If SP is adopting the ISO9001 system, than there is sure a platform for the buyer to provide feedback. They need to entertain all complaints from buyers before they can close the file. But remember to cc. to their higher management. Anyone who know any info on this, kindly please assist. tze – if you can get their CEO one, then things will move very fast. That for sure.

So far, we only see comments from owners. We hope that SP staff could come in to clear the doubts or facts if there are somewhere wrong in the facts given by us. You deserve the right to defense the dignity of your company. We have nothing against SP and we have no hidden agenda behind. For some of us, we just want to do something for the safety & security of our loved ones and there are some of us who do it for the RM in our pocket. No matter what, we just want to claim for our entitlement. Please take our feedback positively for the continuous improvement of your company.

But, I don’t think we could be wrong by so much. When SP mentioned about guarded community for SPI project, SP could provide the single entry point +guard house. But for the case of Setia Vista, the guarded community suddenly becomes a patrolling security service. We can’t accept it if you can’t do it just because there is going to be a new road open up for other developer’s project. You should have thought about this earlier before you wanted to claim it. Please don’t treat us like a second class customer just because our house is one floor lower than SPI. Secondly, removing the 24hrs security service & CCTV from your website is something very obvious and fishy. I don’t know why you want to do that for at the first place? If you have other predicaments, we welcome you to initiate a dialogue with all the owners here. Write to us fast…… before things turn into ugly. It is not going to be good for us and it is not going to be good for you when this kind of things receive too much of publicity and attention. You are expanding your land bank in Penang. Don’t let the SP reputation spoilt in your hands. We are not trying to find fault here. We deserve a fair treatment. Please react wisely and please treat us with respect before you want to win our respect.

By the way, if it is true that the guarded community needs to be scrapped due to your mistake. Please be professional. Admit it & correct it. If you need to come up with extra money or acquire land to build an alternative road for other developer, Just Do It. A promise is a promise. You can’t just UNDO it.
March 11, 2010 at 12:02 AMUnknown: On the other hand, good to see that there are a lot of responses from the owners. Thanks for that. But to me, it is still not enough. If there are only few of us complaining, outside people may think that these few monkeys are trying to be funny. When more and more people stand out, then we might have a stronger case. We would like to urge the rest of owners to join us by providing us your email. Share your story will be the best. Please open up a new email address if you don’t want to disclose your identify since our property is yet to be completed by them. We don’t want ourselves to be victimized and targeted. Please be reminded that SP also capable of using backdoor tactic. Please protect yourself. We just need it for corresponding if needed in future. We know all of us are busy people, but your little CLICK can make a big different for the safety of your loved ones or for the RM in your pocket. Please turn the words from your hand into POWER. Penangites had used it once during the 308 election. Please do it again. For the BN supporters, please practice the spirit of one Setia Vista first before you want to talk about one Malaysia. ..Hehehehe……cheers….Please do away the attitude of ‘there sure got other people who will this…no need so troublesome’. Frankly speaking, we will be very very weak without you. ..…Just do it so that there won’t be any sorry or regret for ourselves later on…. After all, you have nothing to lose…..Don’t be hesitate anymore…..
March 11, 2010 at 4:59 AMUnknown: Hi J,
Tks for the length info sharing.U r potential to be politician...hehehe.
Anyway below is the contact i have.Feel free to bombard them. I hope the email is still valid.lets gather till 20pl first, then only we make a arrangement to visit Setia office. But before that i really hope Setia Penang will do something.

Head Office
Setia Corporate Tower 5A,
Jalan Setia Nusantara U13/17,
Seksyen U13 Setia Alam,
40170 Shah Alam,
Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.
Tel : 03-33448800
Fax : 03-33443232
Email : corp@spsetia.com.my
URL : http://www.spsetia.com.my OR http://www.setiahomes.com

Lingyee@spsetia.com.my (TanSri Liew secretary)
March 11, 2010 at 5:28 AMUnknown: Hi Wint,
Pls let us know what these bunch of Setia rot apples tell you about their guarded facility with CCTV promise.

Hi all,
Pls feel free to send email to above email on our grievances.I just sent one email to them. I hope the email add. is still valid and really can convey the message to their headoffice.
March 11, 2010 at 9:13 AMUnknown: tze,

my sales person told me SV will provide 1 year guarded service but never tell me they will provide CCTV.
March 11, 2010 at 11:12 PMdavid: Hi guys,
I just sent a complaint to the email mentioned by tze. Hope the rest start doing so. Meanwhile, i will ask my friends try to send as well.

Wint,
are you joining us or not?

To SP Setia Penang,
encho what 'J' said, please be positive handling this case. We request SP setia to take their promise and at least build a guard post with CCTV in SV.
March 12, 2010 at 10:04 AMUnknown: David,

my email is wintkoay@gmail.com. If requesting to have CCTV then I will join but if fight for SP Setia to take their promise then I won't join because they never promised me. I must be fair.
March 12, 2010 at 10:45 AMUnknown: wint,

wow! u are good person. we just fight with setia and no need to care whether they are promised you or not. u don't know what is putting your word into ppl mouth meh?

u can see that ppl here just want to fight with setia but never mention who is the sales person promised them,right? join the group to get what they want, anyhow u also benefit what,right?
March 12, 2010 at 8:12 PMUnknown: Chong,

i double check with my few friends those bought SV, they said setia sales person never promised them will provide CCTV there. How can we simply blame them they never keep their promise?
March 12, 2010 at 10:02 PMAnonymous: I am one of the sv owner. I hv concerned on SP Setia taking away the CCTV and guarded facility too. When I bought the Setia Vista unit, one of the reason was the CCTV and the guarded service. I was convinced that SP Setia will provide CCTV and guarded service through their website. Beside the website, the guarded community feature was also stated many times in their media articles. In short I was truly convinced that sure Setia Vista is a guarded community (mentioned in the Setiahomes Setia Vista website, news article and even in their Feb2010 news letter pg 12 which you can also download from Setiahomes website) and with CCTV provided at the guard house (it was mentioned in the Setiahomes Setia Vista website until lately it was removed from the website like what Setiavista mentioned before). I bought the Setia Vista unit even without the Setia sales person approaching me 1st as I hv already convinced by the brand and also information provided in their website and also other source such as their news letter, news article etc. How should I know that a renowned and reputable developer like SP Setia can claim and promise a feature through their website and other medias then remove it after buyers have sign S&P and putting their hard earn money in their product? In short, be it through sales person, through their website or other source, a promise is a promise. The developer might say that well it is not in the S&P, so it is not legally wrong to remove it. But please, don't spoil your reputation and be fair to your buyers that trust you as a reputable and responsible developer. We deserve to get what you have advertised through whatever source.
March 12, 2010 at 10:44 PMUnknown: Dear all,

We are worrying for nothing. I have just went to see the sales personnel and it is confirmed that they will still provide guarded development and CCTV for 1st year. So we are worrying for nothing here. Cheers.
March 12, 2010 at 10:55 PMUnknown: Aiyoh...who is the fella who started this panic??!!! I was so worried about this matter. Now I can sleep well. This is irresponsible as I was planning to make a trip to Penang to clarify with Setia on this matter this weekend. Went to Setia Pearl Island last month and the environment is very good...lotsa flowers blooming and good landscaping. My friend live there and was told it is a very windy area. Let's hope Vista will have the same environment too. Confident Setia will deliver good investment for me. I am considering to stay when is completed...
March 12, 2010 at 11:31 PMnat: Chris,

Don’t believe even a cent what they promised you verbally. Even the manager (yeoh) words are unworthy, furthermore just the sales person. I also been conned before.

If they intentionly scraped the info from the website, meaning they’re erasing the facts from the buyer memory gradually.

So, I felt we should still persist that they give us written confirmation. It’s for everybody benefits that (David and the rest) are heading this, so we should support.

My email add- darrenz_85@yahoo.com
March 13, 2010 at 1:20 AMdavid: Hi guys,
1st of all, it is confirmed SP setia will only provide 1 year PATROLING SERIVCE, no CCTV and guard house. If anyone doesn't believe, please give a call to office and talk to sale manager. Our objective is simple just want to have a safe environment in our neighbourhood.

Issue: SPSetia Penang is dropping 24hours guarded service & CCTV quietly while advertise & marketise SV as 24hours guarded service with CCTV.

Proposal: Request SP Setia to provide at least guard house and CCTV at the entrance.

List:-
setiavista@gmail.com
blackdarkvirus@gmail.com
santagurney@gmail.com
svista8888@gmail.com
joechrist888@gmail.com
ian_tan@yahoo.com
mike1975@hotmail.com
num2num@gmail.com
wintkoay@gmail.com (will remove if u wish)darrenz_85@yahoo.com
Ling88 (what is your email address)
Chris (want to join?)
Tan (want to join?)

Echo, we will go to their office when gather 20ppl, we are now reaching half. We are just trying to find a win-win solution, not trying to fight for any impossible.

---------------
To Chong,
wondering whether you are a SV buyer?

To Kt,
Again, just curious, are a SV buyer? why u need to ask a few friends? we already got 7 to 8 ppl to proof to you on CCTV case, even in their website/brochure. They advertise on web/brochure when they want to sell but different story after sales.

TO Chris,
Chris, they will only provide 1 year patrolling service only, not CCTV or guard house. Please double check again with sales manager. Let me know if u interest to join?

To Tan,
only 1 year patrolling service nia, please aware on that. Let me know once you figure it out and wish to join us.
March 13, 2010 at 6:44 AMUnknown: Dear all,
i received email reply from Setia Penang after complaint to KL office,they assured that Setia will provide guarded facility and CCTV for 1st year,then help resident's committee to take over after that. May be your all can visit the Setia office and ask the manager (Mr.Rajoo/Mr.Yeoh) again.

Dear Setia Penang,
Pls kindly keep your promise. We hope this assurance is valid. As some of our buyer lost trust in you.
Pls regain your brandedreputation, we think you can do it.
March 13, 2010 at 1:00 PMUnknown: Dear David / Tze,

Thanks for the info. I personally know both Yeoh and Rajoo due to my purchase of a property in Setia Pearl Island. I have spoken to them and both of them are consistent with what they have committed i.e to provide security guardpost and CCTV cameras.I am a repeat purchaser and so far I liked what they have done in Setia Pearl Island anyway. They have given me their assurance and were puzzled by this issue. So next time you guys need any clarifications on the development, just go direct to any one of them, your concerns will be addressed.

Cheers.
March 13, 2010 at 1:41 PMUnknown: david,

i m a sv buyer. i checked with few friends because i wonder why my sales person never promised me the CCTV but why in this blog ppl are saying setia promised to provide cctv. now i realise something here is if you making noise here then the sv management will provide the thing we requested.
March 13, 2010 at 1:44 PMUnknown: Just signed up last corner unit last week. Vista Grandis looks good. Yes the sales person told me 1 year guarded with cctv and guardhouse. You guys are worry unnecessarily. Agree with Chris, not sure just call up their top guys in Penang. Straight to the point. We should focus our energy on other productive issue such as how we want to renovate our house, who is the good renovation contractor, where to buy what, best price for stuff, kitchen cabinet-which one is better, kitchen top tiles, etc as we all in the same boat once the houses are completed. Good to have concern but once it is confirmed,what doubts can there be now?

We can use this blog to get the best benefit for all and I am keen on how to renovate my new house now. The rate they are going, it may be completed under a year. Not much time, budget issue needs to be addressed ya. I am not Bank Negara Malaysia and thus cannot print money to do all those stuff at one go.

I am thinking of buying stuff like downlight casings to keep as I have roughly an idea on how many downlights I need. Anyone care to share where to buy? My friend told me a shop opposite stadium at Dato Keramat is reasonably cheap and lotsa id guy will buy and charge us double the price.

Pls help out here....
March 13, 2010 at 3:12 PMUnknown: david,

i m sv and spi buyer. u no need to add my name to fight with setia for cctv already. setia now will provide cctv for sv. we get wat we one again, same as wat we did for spi.

is good to deal with setia than other developer in penang. other developer in penang u fight till die they also not bother u.
March 13, 2010 at 3:31 PMUnknown: Could not be more agreeable and yet we are taking advantage of this good developer. Let's be reasonable and mature in dealing with this situation. I believe there are many unreasonable home buyers in Penang. I will only fight for real cheat but not unreasonable demand. No need to add my name too.

I am a sub con for the other big developer, you guys can check with me on anything on the house.

Now can we talk about renovation now???!!!!
Any good deals pls email me at ijmcontractor@gmail.com

Aniljit Singh
March 13, 2010 at 3:33 PMdavid: Good. Hope this is the final decision sp setia made for SV security issue. I believe sp setia went through couple round of discussion on this. Why i said that because, i am heard different plan since day 1, from 24 guarded comunity w/ cctv, to patrolling service only, now back to the day 1. This can be proven by the saying from kt, chris, anil. all different story

We will continue to gather the list, just in case anything change in the middle by sp setia.
March 14, 2010 at 9:15 AMVoice: Hey,

I've been following this blog for the last 2 weeks on the Guarded and CCTV issues.

It's interesting to see the ups and downs on the evolution.

Bottomline is that the DEVELOPER still have the upper hand. I do believe that there is some thought about changing something, and different signals have been sent out to test the water. When you start to gather a group and matters are heated up (email to HQ), then thangs are re-instate (of course Developer will not use the word "re-instate", but say everything is still remain unchanged), then it makes the LEADERS feel "stupid".

In this case, I've seen the Leaders being very objective, because I've seen other blogs where purchasers are asking for the sky (regardless of whether it was promised or not, just because that's what they like for their "dream home"). In this case, the Leaders only focus on Guarded and CCTV.

Aiya... it's hard to be a leader, but, David, you've done a good job, and I think credit should be given to his leadership... though I'm not a purchaser for SP Setia's projects.
March 14, 2010 at 9:56 AMUnknown: Anil,

I also just signed the last corner unit of grandis. Grandis has 2 last corner units left?

At last Setia will provide cctv, sound good. My sales person told me will provide guarded with security service only, never mention cctv. Your sales person has more information than mine. Your sales person is the Manager?
March 14, 2010 at 5:05 PMUnknown: previously we heard a lot of negative story about guarded ad CCTV commitmentfrom Setia. now the story seem like all already turn to positive. Previously we never heard single comment that Setia is committing on the CCTV. Do your all would like to know what Setia further reply me on this CCTV committment ?
Why it the CCTV statement was dissappear from the website ?
March 15, 2010 at 12:28 AMAnonymous: Hi Tze,
Sure am interesting to know about the Setia reply. Mind to share here? Thanks.
March 15, 2010 at 7:05 AMUnknown: Hi Ling88,
I updated the latest reply from Setia only to all the emails in David's list. Is your email in above David's list ?
As from above, some even said this pursue is not productive and we are taking advantage on Setia. Are we consider taking advantage if we pursue something was committed by them (in website brochure) when we bought the house ? This comment is first time i heard from buyer and its really sound Stupid.
March 15, 2010 at 9:45 AMUnknown: Frankly speaking when I bought a unit of SV that time was under prelauch stage and it wasn't has any brochure or posted in setia website. The brochure and website is only shown after Aug 2009 and I bought on June 2009. They never committed got CCTV when I bought but now they will provide CCTV for SV then is an additional feature for me.
March 16, 2010 at 10:03 AMVista: Hi All,
Just want to find out anyone loan still not yet release for Phase 1 and 2? I wonder is that just mine or others is same...
March 16, 2010 at 10:36 PMdavid: Hi all,
I guess some of you don't understand. We are not forcing or demanding from SP Setia Penang. We just want to they should responsible for whatever features they marketise, and ensure it get realized. Being a listed and well-known developer, they cannot simply launch a project with whatever fancy/attractive features to attract customer/buyers and then drop it.

List:-
setiavista@gmail.com
blackdarkvirus@gmail.com
santagurney@gmail.com
svista8888@gmail.com
joechrist888@gmail.com
ian_tan@yahoo.com
mike1975@hotmail.com
num2num@gmail.com
wintkoay@gmail.com (will remove if u wish)
darrenz_85@yahoo.com
ling88 (what is your email address)
Chris (want to join?)
Tan (want to join?)
Kt (want to be in the contact list?)
Lee (want to be in the contact list?)
Chong (want to be in the contact list?)

Will continue to keep this list and gather longer while I will continue monitoring the security plan they go for SV.

Anil,
Understand that you are sub-con, which in-directly developer is your friend (pay your money) and house buyer is your enemy (as they give more problems for you to solve). This make your sentences siding more on developer side.
March 17, 2010 at 1:56 AMVista: Hi Guys,
I think no harm to growth the email list. We could use to talk how to form our own residence committee. By the time we move in after renovation, I would think it almost 1/2 year from OC. Which mean we only enjoy 1/2 year guarded service from SP Setia.

Probably will be good for us to start discuss future guarded that we looking forward for our residence area.
March 17, 2010 at 4:12 PMScott: Hi David,

Please included my e-mail address as well.

scott_vista67@yahoo.com
March 17, 2010 at 4:35 PMUnknown: Ok. Include mine in.

chrislimau@gmail.com
March 17, 2010 at 10:31 PMUnknown: David,

Pls include me in the list. Thanks.

setialee8@gmail.com.
March 17, 2010 at 11:28 PMRon: David,
include me in.
setiavistatan28@gmail.com
March 18, 2010 at 6:42 PMUnknown: Great news. They have reinstate the CCTVs and guarded development back in the website. We must be thankful for Setia being a gentleman and listen to us. At least they walk the talk unlike other developers in Penang. I am thankful to buy from them.
March 19, 2010 at 8:13 AMVista: That is good. At least now they make it clear that only for 1 year from O.C.

Next focus will be renovation follow by own residence committee (RC). Anyone had experience in RC?
March 19, 2010 at 9:29 AMScott: That is great to hear that Setia have reinstate back the CCTVc and guarded development in the website.

Vista,

You are right, we need to focus on the renovation follow by RC.
March 19, 2010 at 5:24 PMUnknown: Agreed with Scott and Vista.
Since those stuff has been put to rest, let's focus on reno then RC. Quick we don't have time!

Topic 1:
Things to buy if you are going to have plaster ceiling. Anyone got a good contractor doing plaster ceilings. The one I had for my condo is not good as the joints are not straight, There are many designs available and since our design is almost the same, why not we find a good contractor and nego on the price. We need to plan the down lights first before this can be done. Pls give feedback before we move on to topic 2: kitchen cabinet and drawers next week.
March 19, 2010 at 5:45 PMScott: Hi Anil,

Just an opinion, we look for the Interior Designer as a main-con to coordinate all the stuff for us.
March 20, 2010 at 1:11 AMdavid: Hi all,
Here is the latest list.

Objective : Ensure SP Setia Penang deliver as per said, Guarded community with guard post, 24 hours guard service & CCTV.

List:-
setiavista@gmail.com
blackdarkvirus@gmail.com
santagurney@gmail.com
svista8888@gmail.com
joechrist888@gmail.com
ian_tan@yahoo.com
mike1975@hotmail.com
num2num@gmail.com
wintkoay@gmail.com (will remove if u wish)
darrenz_85@yahoo.com
ling88 (what is your email address)
chrislimau@gmail.com
Tan (want to join?)
Kt (want to be in the contact list?)
Lee (want to be in the contact list?)
Chong (want to be in the contact list?)
scott_vista67@yahoo.com
setialee8@gmail.com (questionable, who are you, never see you in the blog b4)
setiavistatan28@gmail.com (questionable, are you sp setia employee?)

Anil,
I doubt you bought last SV corner unit. The corner unit cost more than 1 million. But you so urge to look for cheaper reno, best deal for any reno items. This attitude does not sound like a person with 1 million house. I dunno what is your purpose at here. I guess you are the renovation man that want to look for business here. Let me know if I think wrongly about you.
March 21, 2010 at 12:54 AMdavid: Hi guys,
I created a forum website for setia vista buyers, in case you guys interested, please join in. we can discuss anything like reno or best deal bargain kind of stuff there.

setiavista.forummotion.com
March 21, 2010 at 10:59 AMUnknown: Hi All,
I would like to stand out for "Guarded community with CCTV" concern!!!

For my case, I was told that SP will provide patrolling service free for 1st year when considering purchase Acacia.....well, at the same time, I had also browse through their website which stated "Guarded community with CCTV". Thus, I had further clarify with Sales person on this issue and got feedback as told before. (That time, I thought it might be their website haven't being updated! )

After reading this forum, now I will stand out to fight what I supposed to have!!! Add me in, David. ( stephenchew78@gmail.com )
March 21, 2010 at 3:38 PMnat: Dear David,

I want to be a part too.
Pls add my email nellylim_al@yahoo.com

Thanks
March 21, 2010 at 9:51 PMhssf: hi all,
I visited PISA property fair today and am particularly interested in SV 2-storey terrace but unfortunately only a few units left (mostly corner units). There's 1 particular corner unit priced at $740k++ which i am interested but after much considerations, there are 3 questions that pops up in my mind:

1. Current completed 2 1/2 SP Island are priced at ~$700k++ with much bigger built up area (2.4k++sf vs. 1.7k++sf. Which one is more worth buying?
2. Future low cost flats by the side of Calophy which will be priced at $42k++. Any concern?
3. Is it worth waiting for Tree Residences (by Ideal prop) which shld also be priced at ~720k++ onwards in June/July 2010? This has a clubhouse + much more facilities.

Thanks in advance for the advices.

hssf
March 22, 2010 at 6:13 AMUnknown: went to pisa property fair and saw there is one developer got a plan to built a condo + shoplot (called Golden Triangle project) near the relau traffic light. and sure there is a plan from council to further widen the current road there,just matter of time only.according to the developer, the current mosque and govt clinic nearby the relau traffic light will have to be relocate for future road widening.
Hope the road widening will take place soonest.
March 24, 2010 at 9:51 AMVista: Any idea where is Oasis residence located? Based on their layout, look like beside Vista Calophy unit. If true, does that mean the low cost apt will be even far away from SV?
March 25, 2010 at 9:47 PMUnknown: The low cost will be in between Calophy and Oasis.
March 26, 2010 at 12:00 AMhssf: low cost flat... ~$42k/unit will be just exactly beside Calophy ... too bad, or else Calophy would be great..
March 26, 2010 at 1:31 PMdavid: Updated on 3/26/2010

Objective : Ensure SP Setia Penang deliver as per said, Guarded community with guard post, 24 hours guard service & CCTV.

List:-
setiavista@gmail.com
blackdarkvirus@gmail.com
santagurney@gmail.com
svista8888@gmail.com
joechrist888@gmail.com
ian_tan@yahoo.com
mike1975@hotmail.com
num2num@gmail.com
wintkoay@gmail.com (will remove if u wish)
darrenz_85@yahoo.com
ling88 (what is your email address)
chrislimau@gmail.com
Tan (want to join?)
Kt (want to be in the contact list?)
Lee (want to be in the contact list?)
Chong (want to be in the contact list?)
scott_vista67@yahoo.com
setialee8@gmail.com (questionable, who are you, never see you in the blog b4)
setiavistatan28@gmail.com (questionable, are you sp setia employee?)
stephenchew78@gmail.com
nellylim_al@yahoo.com
March 27, 2010 at 3:42 PMUnknown: Count me in.

vic2781@gmail.com
March 27, 2010 at 3:53 PMScott: Hi David,

Any new photo for the progressing of SV.
March 30, 2010 at 12:37 PMdavid: no photo, but i can tell the progress:-

phase 1 almost completed, all houses covered with roof.

phase 2 50% houses build

phase 3 &4 , just started.
March 30, 2010 at 1:04 PMsinofi: Hi David pl add me to your mailing
list. Tks
sinofi@gmail.com
March 31, 2010 at 5:17 PMYN [永年]: Is there anyone here planning to redo the frontal design of the house? Current design is a disappointment for a house with this price.
April 1, 2010 at 5:28 AMUnknown: david,
do u know the roof is metal or wood ?
April 4, 2010 at 7:31 AMUnknown: David,
pls include me. yfyam93@gmail.com
April 11, 2010 at 11:03 PMVista: Tze,
I think the roof is using wood. You should able to find from the picture that I sent out.
April 11, 2010 at 11:54 PMdavid: Hi all,
Here is the up to date list dated 11/04/10.

Objective : Ensure SP Setia Penang deliver as per said, Guarded community with guard post, 24 hours guard service & CCTV.

List:-
setiavista@gmail.com
blackdarkvirus@gmail.com
santagurney@gmail.com
svista8888@gmail.com
joechrist888@gmail.com
ian_tan@yahoo.com
mike1975@hotmail.com
num2num@gmail.com
wintkoay@gmail.com (will remove if u wish)
darrenz_85@yahoo.com
ling88 (what is your email address)
chrislimau@gmail.com
Tan (want to join?)
Kt (want to be in the contact list?)
Chong (want to be in the contact list?)
scott_vista67@yahoo.com
setialee8@gmail.com (questionable, who are you, never see you in the blog b4)
setiavistatan28@gmail.com (questionable, are you sp setia employee?)
stephenchew78@gmail.com
nellylim_al@yahoo.com
vic2781@gmail.com
sinofi@gmail.com
yfyam93@gmail.com

website: setiavista.forummotion.com
April 11, 2010 at 11:58 PMdavid: Updated with list till 11/04/10. Please refer to above posting.
April 13, 2010 at 9:14 PMSetiaVista Purchaser: According to the S&P, the roof framing is Timber / Metal Roof Truss System, which can be seen from the picture (if I am not wrong).
April 14, 2010 at 11:12 AMUnknown: Considering to get a unit at Phase 4.
Is it worth it?
April 14, 2010 at 1:51 PMUnknown: Vista,
May i know when u sent the photo and where i can view the photo of the wood roofing ?
Any idea why Setia still using wood roof framing ? Now all landed project isusing the metal roof framing right.
April 14, 2010 at 2:59 PMVista: Tze,
Just send u email and highlighted in RED. Maybe I might be wrong, then will be good news.
April 14, 2010 at 5:20 PMUnknown: Hi David,

Please join me in the communication loop. My email : eric5108@gmail.com

Eric
April 14, 2010 at 5:32 PMUnknown: Last I was informed from SP that the CCTV will only be installed after the OC obtained. Also SP is giving out the upgrade package for Phase 1 and 2 for their electrical and flooring, but I heard it costs a lot, someone can provide more detail on this?
April 19, 2010 at 6:02 AMUnknown: dear all,
anyone know when exected can get the VP or OC ?
And the VP will be by phase 1 and 2 first or all the phases together ?
April 20, 2010 at 7:22 PMdavid: Hi All,
got news from my friend work in SP setia. He said guarded service only provided to phase1 & phase2 units only for 1 years. Not applicable to phase3 and 4. And also there will not be any fencing built up on it.
April 21, 2010 at 6:25 AMUnknown: Hi David,
Means there will be wall fencing for phase 1 and 2 ? Any reason why the guarded is not apply for phase 3 and 4?
April 23, 2010 at 8:32 AMVista: Hi Tze,
Not sure will there be any fencing due to our residence is not gated community.
April 23, 2010 at 9:03 PMdavid: I heard that because there is another small piece of land beside phase 1 & garden not belong to sp setia. So, they cannot fence the whole phase1-3 area with single entry.

the promise should be only 1 guard post with 24hrs guard, not single entry.

Hope what my friend said is not 100% true. Will contact the GM to understand in details.
April 24, 2010 at 3:32 PMUnknown: Check with the sales department, Phase 3 & 4 are also guarded for 1 year.
April 26, 2010 at 2:06 PMSetiaVista Purchaser: Called up the office, looks like OC for Phase I & II are going to be earlier than Phase III & IV.

Phase I & II tentatively targeted to complete by end of the year, OC in Q2 2011.

I am just wondering how SP is going to split the 1 year guarded service for Phase I & II vs Phase III & IV.
April 27, 2010 at 6:07 AMUnknown: Setiavista,
Do u know for previous SPI project, what is the gap between VP and OC ? We will start pay loan once got VP right ?
April 27, 2010 at 7:22 AMVista: Hi Tze,
If not mistaken, we will start to serve the interest once VP obtain.
April 27, 2010 at 12:10 PMYN [永年]: Hi David. Include me, thanks. blackvios@hotmail.com
May 4, 2010 at 6:04 PMUnknown: Hi,

We will start paying the installment once VP is issued. Installment means principle + interest.
May 4, 2010 at 11:56 PMUnknown: Anyone know when expected to get the VP ?
May 7, 2010 at 5:36 PMdavid: Hi all,
Here is the up to date list dated 07/05/10.

Objective : Ensure SP Setia Penang deliver as per said, Guarded community with guard post, 24 hours guard service & CCTV.

List:-
setiavista@gmail.com
blackdarkvirus@gmail.com
santagurney@gmail.com
svista8888@gmail.com
joechrist888@gmail.com
ian_tan@yahoo.com
mike1975@hotmail.com
num2num@gmail.com
wintkoay@gmail.com (will remove if u wish)
darrenz_85@yahoo.com
ling88 (what is your email address)
chrislimau@gmail.com
Tan (want to join?)
Kt (want to be in the contact list?)
Chong (want to be in the contact list?)
scott_vista67@yahoo.com
setialee8@gmail.com (questionable, who are you, never see you in the blog b4)
setiavistatan28@gmail.com (questionable, are you sp setia employee?)
stephenchew78@gmail.com
nellylim_al@yahoo.com
vic2781@gmail.com
sinofi@gmail.com
yfyam93@gmail.com
eric5108@gmail.com
blackvios@hotmail.com

website: setiavista.forummotion.com
May 7, 2010 at 10:23 PMUnknown: Guys, i am a purchaser of both Pearl island and Setia vista.I dont understand why you are all unduly worried.Setia has never failed as a resposible developer and will never fail in future. They have very good reputation and i dont think they would want to screw itup.The best person to talk to is the developer themself and not irresponsible gossipers and people who are so so kan chong. Why dont you guys make an appointment to meet or speak to the GM himself. I was just like you guys at one time until i heard it from the horses mouth. A lot of things you read here are not true.Go and speak to the right people and have a peaceful sleep. I tell you how to reach then GM. Call the office line and ask for his secretary Ms winnie. If he is not there pls leave a message and he will definately call you back. Trust me , the operate very professionally.Pls dont panic, take it easy. Cheers
May 11, 2010 at 9:21 AMbryan: Dear ah,
I have been observing this project quite some time. As an observer, this tell that SP setia is losing penang customer trust and the confident/quality level is going downtrend. Btw, you can see this project is sitting on the lower end side. Initial the project is like SPI, 3 storey, guarded, beautiful landscape & privacy home. Now, guess what, is 2 storey old design, no guarded, simple garden. that is it. Too many changes made by sp setia just to get the project sell off with minimum cost (max gain). Good luck SV.
May 11, 2010 at 6:13 PMUnknown: bryan,

Old or new design is very subjective. i like setia vista carinata house design because i feel that it is modern and yet practical. The project is guarded and the garden also impressive. The garden planning is much later than SPI and is more modern than the rest of the garden by other developer.
May 12, 2010 at 5:34 AMUnknown: bryan,
Based on your comment, you be very briliant observer.You didnt buy also observe so long.
So what is your dream project in penang island ?
Or which project you bought ?
May 12, 2010 at 12:48 PMbryan: One Residence
May 12, 2010 at 11:50 PMUnknown: bryan,
ic, look like you are very proud with the strata title project by the cunning developer with gangster contractor.
Good luck to you also when you want to do renovation with gangster contractor.
Just like happen at Dpiazza condo right now where their renovation quotation cost with the developer contractor estimated 4-5times higher than outside contractor.
May 13, 2010 at 1:51 AMbryan: gansgter contractor? not a big deal wat...i have time to wait. i will plan my reno after 6mths or when they leave. What so bother on that.
May 13, 2010 at 8:44 AMSetiaVista Purchaser: Hahaha ... when I read the reply from Bryan to Tze, I laughed and rolled on the floor.

Really funny ... in SPI column, Bryan mentioned that "Sg Ara is a remote area and the access is even teruk". And yet, Bryan (claiming to be so smart) still bought his property at One Residence, which is just opposite SPI. Unless, the two Bryan's are different. But I doubt so because Bryan was the one who kept harassing SP Setia owners in the SPI column.

http://www.apartment-penang.com/2007/10/setia-pearl-island-island-of-dreams.html?showComment=1273204020254#c4921522404363047358

Bryan, tell us what is so good about One Residence.
Strata title? 3 years time to complete? Do you know that strata title project incurs lesser cost to developers as they do not need to apply to the authorities to cut the land into individual title?
Need to pay management fee for life? Think about it, how much will you use the facility?
Is it worth paying extra management fee for life when your house is already so expensive? Isn't G&G concept just a high class town house?
Built on lower ground compared to SPI?
Easily prone to flood?

Well, I am not claiming that SPI or SV is better than others, I believe each project has its own advantages and disadvantages. This is all subjected to individual preference and affordability.
May 14, 2010 at 10:27 AMCharice: This Bryan is not even a home buyer in SPI and Setia Vista, why is he doing here? A few issues I want to highlight on One Residence...
1) Looks like they may run out of money...their earthworks seemed to take forever to complete...start and stop work for the last few months
2) Did you know that the land is lower than the road level..up to 2 metres. No issue on flood now as the drain will be deep enough to cater for the rain water but 5 years down the road, one may never know.
3) Paying maintenance for life? Not for me. A study shows that those retirees, those with kids will more likely to use the facilities. For most, you just want to live and rarely go the the so called clubhouse.
4) Nothing bad about the location but orientation is not so good compared to the others within the surrounding area.
5) Good luck to you!
6) Ha ha ha - wrong choice
May 16, 2010 at 9:59 AMVista: Hi all,

I had created a google group. I had send invitation to most people whole listed their email in this forum. Any update, we could use this group as sharing.
May 16, 2010 at 10:04 AMVista: Email for this group is setia-vista@googlegroups.com
June 3, 2010 at 11:07 PMUnknown: I have seen the future development layout, a TNB substation will be built by other developer somewhere near to Lot 1 and Lot 4. Too bad.

Also, another block of low cost building will be proposed on a land opposite Lot 38 & 39. How sad.

So, I have decided not to consider Lot 1 to 3 anymore, even though the original fengshui before the future development is attractive to me.

Unfortunately, those vacant land nearby does not belong to Setia. They do not have any idea what will happen next.

If u guys want to see the layout, can email : engineerleepenang@gmail.com
June 3, 2010 at 11:25 PMScott: Hi Engineer,

Are you sure they have another low cost building proposed on a land opposite Lot 38 & 39? I talk only low cost flat build by Sp Setia that opposite SV phase 4.
June 4, 2010 at 8:58 AMUnknown: Not only that. Have u guys thought of the surau? Where will Setia construct the surau which is to be surrenderred to MAIPP (Majlis Agama Islam Pulau Pinang)?

Somemore future development opposite Lot 38 & 39 also most likely will require such surau.

Too much unknown. It is too risky to invest here.

Last week I nearly goín to pay the booking fee already, but pull hand brake just because of this.
June 4, 2010 at 10:34 AMScott: In malaysia, the surau is a MUST for all the new property project so i didn't see any problem unless you want stay at other country like Singapore or Hong Kong. And, Surau will not going to impact our daily life regardless chinese or India because Surau with us since we was born in this country.
By the way, I'm not muslim but i said all are the fact.
June 4, 2010 at 10:57 AMdavid: engineer,
what you mention is a good trigger here. i would rather think where will the pusat kesihatan and surau near relau t-junction will relocate to. Anyway, whatever you talk is just an empty talk till you have a firm plan from government or other developer on your surau, low cost & substation talk.
Please provide us the prove. appreciate that
June 4, 2010 at 12:40 PMSetiaVista Purchaser: I called up SP office just now. The staff mentioned that there is no plan for any surau in the Setia Vista site.

However, I am quite surprised that another developer bought the land nearby the hill (next to Lot 1 and 4), if it is really true. I have talked the engineer of SP before last year, he said the hill land there is very solid and hard, and difficult to develop. And also not easy to get approval from the local authority for such land.
June 6, 2010 at 1:16 AMUnknown: engineer,
tks for shring the layout.
if we need to worry so much things, then u better wait till all the surrounding development completed then only buy subsale house.

regarding the new pusat kesihatan, info i got is the new pusat kesihatan highly going to be built on the land beside the relau Malay school that currently use for planting veggies.
govt already send few letter on intention take take back the land to the veggie seller who rent that land .
June 6, 2010 at 11:20 AMUnknown: I am agreeable with Tze. If worry too much then better buy after the completion of the whole development inclusive of neighboring project. I believe the neigbouring land / hill is 250m above sea level and thus no development can be down at these area. It has something to do with hill land committee requirments.
June 7, 2010 at 1:25 AMUnknown: at least SV project is done by SP Setia which so far doesnt have a bad record in penang projects and we can rest assure the SV project can be complete within timeline.
Not like the developer on the project opposite the SPI,latest news there is controversy among the developers and likely to affect the project timeline completion. i believe those who invested there must be shaking now.
June 11, 2010 at 5:13 PMUnknown: Hi, I am carinata buyer, pls add me in the mailing list too. My email account is lingvista88@gmail.com. Thx!

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