Setia Vista

Setia Vista, the latest edition of SP Setia's list of project in Penang located on a 8.4ha site in Relau. Setia Vista comprises 206 double storey terrace homes and 12 semi-detached houses, built-up area starting from 1,697 sq.ft.

Setia Vista - Vista Carinata, Vista Grandis, Vista Acacia, Vista Calophy, Vista Tecoma

Property Project : Setia Vista
Location : Relau, Penang
Property Type : Terrace, Semi-Detached
Built-up Area : 1,697 - 1,748 sq.ft
Land Area : 20' x 70'
Total Units : 218
Developer : Setia Promenade Sdn Bhd

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July 1, 2009 at 4:23 PMHard facts: Is everyone ok with this Saturday 3 pm?
July 3, 2009 at 10:30 AMHard facts: Hi Tok/Vista/Ling88/Christine,

Would you want to visit SP Setia office this Saturday (4 July 2009) at 3 pm? If yes, I will make appointment with Mr Yeoh. If no, pls let me know the time. Thanks.
July 3, 2009 at 11:22 AMAnonymous: Hi Darren,
Ok, pls go ahead. Thx for arranging this appointment.
July 3, 2009 at 6:27 PMHard facts: Hi all Setia Vista owners,

I have made an appointment with Mr Yeoh tomorrow (Saturday 4 July 2009) at 3 pm. I hope more owners will join in to address any dissatisfaction to the management. Pls pass around the message to other owners. Thanks.
July 7, 2009 at 8:38 AMGeno: Hi Darren,
Did you managed to meet up Mr Yeoh and any sharing on the discussion?
July 7, 2009 at 9:32 AMUnknown: Hi Vista,
Do u know when is the effect date for SnP, after Purchaser sign or after the Developer sign off ?
As currently the SP still havent sign the SnP yet, as still pending the approval for the land title change.
I just got to know that some of the purchaser even havent pay for the 5% yet.
July 7, 2009 at 9:47 AMGeno: The effect date for SnP will based on the stamping date which mean after developer sign off, they will just send in for stamping.
July 7, 2009 at 10:03 AMGeno: I think legally the SnP date should should based on the 5% payment (original receipt) that we had done. Anyone have any idea what if the SnP date is different from original receipt date? Should the 24 months should based on original receipt date?
July 7, 2009 at 10:20 AMGeno: For those familiar with regulation, they will smart not to pay 5% until today. Please find below for the information.

http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt_en/main.php?Content=sections&SectionID=1

5. First Payment
The first payment of 10 per cent must be made upon signing of the Sales and Purchase Agreement. Please ensure the date of signing of the SPA and the date of first payment are the same.

Be aware that the housing developer is not allowed to collect any form of payment without a Sales and Purchase Agreement being signed.
July 9, 2009 at 9:19 AMUnknown: Hi Vista,
Just my opinion, SP will not review the low cost apartment location until the phase 3&4 sold out.
July 10, 2009 at 11:50 AM梹城男孩宝宝: i was there yesterday to check on phase 3&4. they open for sales tomorrow, sat. they sales person did tell me the propose location for low cost. just in front of existing low cost only.
July 13, 2009 at 12:42 AMHomeDec Zone: Hi all,

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July 14, 2009 at 9:51 PMUnknown: THe second phhase is like 628k and 638K. Look like a bit expensive. What is the appreciation rate any one know. Look like the areas surrounded by a lot low cost house
July 15, 2009 at 8:30 AMGeno: Phase 1 is selling 598K for Carinata. For Grandis, I think is 608K?
July 15, 2009 at 9:37 AM梹城男孩宝宝: 598k for Carinata and 608k for Grandis was for early birds. now has been increased to 608k for carinata and 618k for grandis.
now the sell at 628k and 638k are fair price because the houses look much more nicer.
July 15, 2009 at 9:55 AMGeno: Not bad. Increase 30K liao for those early birds.
July 15, 2009 at 12:40 PMsinofi: The new phase units are smaller
I think it's 20x65 and 20x60, compared with grandis/carinata which were 20x70.
July 15, 2009 at 1:15 PM梹城男孩宝宝: 20x65 for calophy and 20x70 for acacia.
my brother will buy acacia this saturday.
July 16, 2009 at 2:16 PMUnknown: According to SP, after 19July 09 there will be no more 5/95 and others benefit on fees waive.
Did anyone know how is the sales response for phase 3&4 ?
July 18, 2009 at 9:21 PMnat: Dear Tok,

Did you all meet up with MR yeoh (4 july),
did he show the master plan where the 16 floor low cost going to be ?
July 20, 2009 at 8:24 AMUnknown: Hi Nat,
I didnt meet up Yeoh.
But i meet the their Sales Exec, they show me that the apartment is built just infront of the Alor Vista apartment which should be near the phase 4. You can go to the site there and see, there is land clearing in front of the Alor Vista apartment. That should be the land for apartment.
July 20, 2009 at 8:53 PMnat: Dear Tok,

Thanks for sharing. Will go take a look, one of these
days.
July 21, 2009 at 11:36 AMUnknown: SP Setia Owner,
Refer to below link of the developer to build the low cost of 190units
http://www.rid.com.my/content/rib_ongoing.html
July 21, 2009 at 11:37 AMUnknown: Hi, do refer to to below link of http://www.rid.com.my/content/rib_ongoing.html
the RID is building 190units of low cost for SP Setia
July 21, 2009 at 11:42 AMGeno: Any idea when we will get the signed SnP?
July 21, 2009 at 11:45 AMGeno: That one should be the low cost apartment at Setia Pearl Island.
July 21, 2009 at 4:26 PMScott: Hi Vista,

Lawer office personal already called me to sign the SnP. So, could you pls call the Setia Vista appointed lawer office to make an appointment to sign yr SnP?
July 21, 2009 at 4:44 PMGeno: Hi Scott,
Sorry for not clear. What I mean had anyone collected your signed SnP? If no, any idea when will we receive our signed SnP with stamping.
July 22, 2009 at 8:58 AMUnknown: Vista,
Our 5% money interest in hanging as SP cannot confirm when they able to Stamp the SnP pending the land title approval.
As some of the buyer who bought it early havent pay the 5%. So basically i think its not fair to us who paid it early.
For phase 3 and 4 buyer,
Pls take note on this.
July 22, 2009 at 10:17 AMGeno: Hi Tok,
That is bad. Still pending the land title approval. So far when I inquire them, did not even apologise on the delay. Just keep saying we are pending approval at expense of purchaser time. By the time we pay 5%, that should be the SnP date. Any advice on next action we could do?
July 22, 2009 at 10:19 AMScott: Hi Vista and Tok,

Thanks for your info.
July 22, 2009 at 3:47 PMUnknown: Hi Scott,
Areu Setia Vista purchaser ?
Which phase ?
July 22, 2009 at 5:43 PMScott: Hi Tok,

Still awaiting loan approval by bank for phase 1 intermediate corner without extended land.
July 22, 2009 at 6:16 PMGeno: Hi Scott,
What is your unit type? eg. Carinata or Grandis
July 23, 2009 at 8:39 AMUnknown: Hi Scott,
Is the price same as intermediate or different ? The price is after or before SP raised RM10K ?
July 23, 2009 at 9:13 AMScott: Hi Vista and Tok,

It is Grandis. The price is higher of RM12K with compared to intermediate.
July 23, 2009 at 8:05 PMnat: Dear Scott,

It is the end unit, with extra windows.
July 24, 2009 at 11:27 AMScott: Hi Nat,

Yes! You are rite.
August 2, 2009 at 9:31 PMUnknown: Hi Setia owner, do refer below link on the show units.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcseang/3779798290/
August 2, 2009 at 9:34 PMUnknown: Hi Vista owner do refer below link on the show house
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcseang/3779798290/
August 2, 2009 at 11:18 PMAnonymous: Hi Christine,
Thanks for sharing the link. Though the show house renovation haven't completed yet, both Carinata and Grandis show houses look great and comparable to the 3 storeys Setia Pearl Island show houses. Looking forward to visit the show houses when its' completed. According to setia staff, tentatively it will ready for viewing by end of AUG 09.
August 7, 2009 at 10:03 AMUnknown: Hi all,
Does anyone know when SP going to sign and stamp the S&P ?
Already 3mths+ after signed the S&P.
August 7, 2009 at 2:32 PMGeno: Hi Tok,
What I heard is by this month and no purchaser make noise to them on SnP stamping. Now they could take sweet time to do the job.
August 10, 2009 at 2:53 PMGeno: Hi Tok,
Did you find out from Setia when we will get back our SnP?
August 11, 2009 at 10:10 AMScott: I heard the Setia Vista show house will open for viewing on this Saturday.
August 11, 2009 at 8:43 PMnat: Dear Vista,

Setia havent send our agreement for stamping yet,
so we wont be getting a copy of the SAP.
August 11, 2009 at 10:39 PMGeno: Too bad. Still not send our agreement for stamping. Already more than 3 months since signing the SnP. :(
August 16, 2009 at 8:59 PMScott: Are some one when to the show village to viewing the Setia Vista show house?
August 17, 2009 at 9:43 AMGeno: The show house is open for viewing. Found all the room is quite small. Will this be standard for all houses in Penang island double story?
August 17, 2009 at 10:09 AMUnknown: Vista,
For dbl sty terrace (20x70), this is what u got normally. Unless u extend the behind 10feet to lengthen the upstair room 2 and 3.
Just dissapointed the original balcony are without stainless steel bar and glass. Not sure what is the purpose of balcony if it was not cover as shown in show house.
August 17, 2009 at 11:03 AMUnknown: I found out that Taman Relau Mutiara is better than setia vista because of the practical layout
and high ceiling although it looks not so modern
look.
August 17, 2009 at 12:41 PMUnknown: Hi Lim,
Agreed tmn relau mutiara is bigger in built up area. Wonder does it have the 5/95 and waive other fees ? But the area is very near the sewerage plant and all the 4 sides road are fully park by the surrounding flat owner car.
August 17, 2009 at 12:50 PMPalymra: Beside the big indah water pond is a big no no. You will be suffering from smell come from the pond.
August 17, 2009 at 12:51 PMScott: Hi Tok,

I agree with you, SP Setia have the 5/95 package for Setia Vista project so as a buyer we can save a lot of money such as legal fee, stamp duty fee and etc. So, add-up around RM35K ~ RM40K that we can save.
August 17, 2009 at 1:25 PMScott: With compare to both project, i really prefer to Setia Vista.

1. The environment.
2. The design more modern.
3. The 5/95 package.
4. Branded developer.
5. 36 months warranty.
6. etc
August 17, 2009 at 2:33 PMGeno: Any idea does Setia give option for upgrade? If yes, at least we could save a bit. The upgrade that I'm looking forward:

1. Floor tiles (particular ground floor)
2. Balcony steel bar -> stainless steel (mentioned by Tok)
3. More ceiling fan hook and electric point
August 21, 2009 at 9:33 AMAnonymous: Visited to the showhouse. i was surprised both units built up quality way much better than SPI 3 storey.
Does anyone know currently selling at RM 628K or less ???
August 21, 2009 at 1:18 PMScott: I heard from SP Setia sale person, they will assign the KL contractor to build for Setia Vista project with high quality and less complaint like Setia Pearl Island phase 1 and phase 2 project.
August 24, 2009 at 4:11 PMUnknown: Heard there are a lot of house at SPI are out for subsale. Many ppl buy for investment instead of own stay. Cheapest 3 storey can reach to 680K-699K. If compare to Setia Vista phase 3 price 638K, actually only different ~50-60K. But still the Setia vista phase 3 fully booked. Look like ppl still opt for dbl sty.
Besides, does anyone know is SP still waive the lawyer fees and interest for Setia Vista Phase 3 and 4 ?
August 26, 2009 at 9:24 PMlee: after looking both :relau mutiara vs setia.
would like to share my insight

relau mutiara
pro:
1.high ceiling, the layout bigger.
2.better flooring 2x2 tiles
3.all door-solid wood,
4.built up-1750+ does not include the big balcony
5. snp,transfer and ... also waived like setia.
6.cheaper-580k -1st phase
7.decorative sliding door for all bathroom
8.toilet and basin-johnson suisse
9.main door-bigger than the normal
con:
no parking,near sewerage plant

setia
pro:
1. reputable company
2. warranty 3 year
con:
1.extended balcony-not included (just for show room purpose)
2.agree with vista, the flooring doesnt look classy
3.door-plywood
4.expensive:1st phase-598k and smaller
5.bathroom-pvc door
6.toilet and basin-kim ware
August 26, 2009 at 9:30 PMnat: yeah, why the door-just pvc door and ply wood.
if other developer can give better doors when their house price is yet so cheaper.
i notice too-toilet using kim ware ?
it is good, it thou should be of the johnnson
suisse.

how about our snp when are going to sign, already 3 month, but in bank(also should have interest right)....sigh
August 28, 2009 at 11:13 AMScott: Hi Lee,

I do partially agree with you on the CON such as,

Setia Vista - no extended balcony, use the cheaper floor tiles (18" ceramic tiles only), door-plywood and bathroom use PVC door only.
August 28, 2009 at 11:17 AMScott: Hi Lee,

If SP Setia can improve on these few CON so i think the project look it better.
August 28, 2009 at 7:52 PMkkong: definitely taman relau mutiara is cheaper than setia vista, the DST of setia vista is not worth the money paid !
August 28, 2009 at 8:01 PMnat: Hi scott and lee,

i agree also, if setia will consider take on the con by changing the door, balcony and toilet-it doesnt cost much to them since they can get cheaper deal.

Then it will make this project much valued,then ONLY can say they also their project is always of the high quality.
August 31, 2009 at 11:04 AMlcseang: Hi Guy,
Just create a communities group for the SP setia owner in penang. feel free to visit at
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1221611@N23/....thanks for joining~!
September 1, 2009 at 11:31 AMUnknown: If the Tmn Relau Mutiara have the same 5/95,and others fees waive package offer like Setia, with the condition are not near the sewerage plant, of course we will not go for Setia. Its more like give and take situation, if you opt for Tmn Relau Mutiara, means you might have to adapt the smell from the sewerage plant everyday which we cant change.
But for the door and others thinkg, we can take the control to change it. For me i still choose the location. Basically developer is not stupid also.
September 1, 2009 at 5:28 PMScott: The Setia Vista environment is more better than Tmn Relau Mutiara. This is because i prefer to choose the Setia Vista. But, if SP Setia able to improve and consider take on the CON than it will make this project much much BETTER.
September 2, 2009 at 1:04 AMThinker: Hi, guys. Just to share my personal experience and opinion.
When the developer of Taman Relau Mutiara was asked on the issue on the sewerage plant,they said they have obtained permission from City Council to relocate to elsewhere.
Does anyone hear from the surrounding apartment/condo residents that ever complain that they can smell the bad smell from the plant? I don't think so. Just pay a visit to area and you will know.
September 2, 2009 at 9:59 AMScott: Hi Lee,
Are you TRM owner?
Friendly speaking, both project also have Pro and Con. So, it's depend on individual expectation, some people like the environment, some people like the layout and etc. For me, i will prefer the environment 1st especially the surrounding of my house. So, Setia Vista will provide the good environment such as Guarded, Scenic Landscape & Grand Entry Statement, and etc.
September 2, 2009 at 11:26 AMGeno: Anyone have any idea what is the progress of construction?
September 2, 2009 at 3:21 PMPalymra: I think Relau is more suitable for low and medium range housing. Not really understand why developer of Setia Vista, Sentral Green and Taman Relau Mutiara would chose this location. Strange combination of high end housing and low end flat/apartment locating near to each other.
September 2, 2009 at 5:39 PMGeno: Not really true now... You can find new project from AirMas which selling semi-D 3-storey for 998K and bangalow for 1.5M in Relau. Look like property is ramping in Relau area too.
September 2, 2009 at 6:39 PMUnknown: Hello Vista,

The Airmas Relau semi-D project on 998k are sold out. They left with 10 units of semi-D out of 24 units. The remaining are above 1M.

I also understand that the discount (during soft launch) and free interest (during Merdeka promo) are also over.

Like it or not, the project is also selling good, as I can see that the project is further away from the low cost apartment, with nice green hill at the back.

I think you're right, the perception on Relau is now changing, just like Batu Maung with the upcoming South Bay.

We can't assume Batu Maung means swampy area with the airport noice. Likewise we cannot assume Relau means low cost apartments.

Readers may want to check out the Summerhill Villas blog in the internet as well.
September 3, 2009 at 11:10 AMScott: Hi Jeremy and Vista,

I agree with both of you. Now a day, a lot of developer has choose to develop in Relau and Batu Maung like what you mention in this blog. Also, i heard that Airmas will widen the main entrance from the main road (PISA).
September 3, 2009 at 11:32 AMUnknown: In Pg, developer will develop anywhere there is a land. As long as landed, it sure will be sold out. As Penangites know, the landed property choice is limited is island, if dont get it fast, the longer we wait, the higher the price. Another choice of landed property is the big land just infront/opposite of Setia Pearl Island which will be develop by Ideal Property, overthere heard that they will built a lot of landed /high rise/commercial /hotel/ mall and etc. So for those looking for landed, this should be the best location as at now. But the price dont know yet as they plan to launch it on Oct09.
For Relau area, if developers can widen the road, then it will be a really good point for Relau landed property.
Heard from Setia, there is actually still a lots of land surrounding the Vista project. So i believe Relau area will be further develop for landed. Heard the Vista phase 3 already fully book and only left the phase 4.
September 3, 2009 at 2:07 PMUnknown: Tok, I do agree with you on landed property in Penang, but developer is also very important. There are bloggers talking about premium developers which some may not agree.

I've also seen comment in the blog about Ideal's family companies cutting corner and cheating purchasers, and if those are true, then Ideal is far away from a premium developer.

Mr Voice has commented in the blog on Ideal's upcoming project opposite SP Setia (http://www.apartment-penang.com/2009/08/ideal-property-to-launch-rm11bil.html?showComment=1250579954368#c1811730176009028149), making comparison on the density of the 2 projects.

I also saw someone suggesting to drive around thier family's project in Teluk Kumbar country home.

Is it really that bad?
May be I should really take a personal look this weekend.
September 3, 2009 at 2:35 PMGeno: It would be great if true that AirMas widen the main entrance from the main road (PISA). Not sure it is true that there will be potential road be open from Setia Vista to Sungai Ara. If that true, it will be good for Relau resident.

Batu Maung will continue to develop by Mah Sing. Sungai Ara i think the land is limited now except opposite SPI which Tok mentioned under Ideal property.

Relau still have room for development. Teluk Kumbar development is continue and will boom once Batu Maung and Relau is done.

Another 10 years, Balik Pulau will start to boom for landed. When the development go further to Balik Pulau, property value for Relau will be good.
September 3, 2009 at 2:43 PMPalymra: I went to Krystal Country Home at Teluk Kumbar road previously. Very interesting sight. The car porch cannot hold entire car, so you would see cars protrude out to road. Road there is narrow.
September 3, 2009 at 5:17 PMUnknown: Hi Jeremy,
I heard the Ideal boss is very young (<40yrs) and already Datuk. For this project, Ideal is actually Turnkey developer for one malay developer in Sg. Ara. Means before develop, the project is actually being subcon.

Can share which developer consider premium developer, is Setia included ?

Hi Vista,
Do u receive SMS from Setia to fill up the Customer satisfaction survey form on their website ? May be can fill up the slow in S&P sign n stamping.
September 3, 2009 at 5:33 PMScott: Hi Tok,

I also received the SMS from Setia as well. On top of the slow in SnP, do you think if we fill up the CON that we discussed in this blog?
September 3, 2009 at 8:33 PMGeno: Yes. I did received the SMS. Just responded the survey.
September 3, 2009 at 9:27 PMUnknown: Ok. Mr. Business has visited the Krytal Country Home, which means want was mentioned in the other blog by Mr Voice on the Ideal project is correct... hmmm

Tok, I heard that Ideal JV with Koperasi Tunas Muda in Sg. Ara. I don't know who is the Ideal boss, but in the blog "Ideal property to launch 1.1 bil project", one of the blogger (Voice??) mentioned that Ideal and Krystal (and even Rich Focus ??) are from the family, I think it's father and son.

Do you think you dare to push your luck buying their property?

I need advice.
September 7, 2009 at 12:13 PMUnknown: Hi Jeremy,
My opinion, if you really aim for the landed dbl sty trc, if the price and location is suitable, can consider. Cant afford to wait as the landed housing price is always shooting up.Unless we are really affordable and willing to pay higher price.If the house built by Ideal, i believe still ok. But if the house is built by that malay developer, i will advice you not to take the risk.The dbl sty at Sg. Tiram is their project, the workmanship is poor and almost all the house have some crack line near the beam, heard it was due to the poor design.

Hi Vista/Scott,
Do u put in the poor or Con item into the customer satisfaction survey ?
September 7, 2009 at 5:15 PMGeno: Hi Tok,
So far I just include cons feedback.
September 7, 2009 at 9:42 PMpenangkia: Vista, Tok,
I have problem when try to complete the customer feedback survey.

when i select Setia Pearl Island project>>Vista Carinata>>Lot number after i key in appear to be "Invalid Lot Number".

Do u guy face this problem?
September 8, 2009 at 7:00 AMGeno: Hi Peangkia,
Try using 4 digit. eg. 0028
September 8, 2009 at 9:51 AMUnknown: Hi penangkia,
you can try like Lotxx whether it work or not.
September 8, 2009 at 2:36 PMScott: Hi Tok,

I just included CON only.
September 9, 2009 at 7:37 AMGeno: I heard SnP had stamped. Will need to find out from lawyer.
September 9, 2009 at 11:22 AMGeno: Hi Tok, Scott,
Any idea does SP provide upgrade options for our unit? eg. Changing the floor tiles.
September 9, 2009 at 12:50 PMUnknown: Vista,
Previously i heard from SP sales we can add on the electrical point. Regarding the tiles not so sure.I think your can call up your sales exec to check.
So far is other developer doing this ?
September 9, 2009 at 12:55 PMScott: Hi Vista,

Ya! I also heard that SP sent the SnP for stamping and according to them the project will be completed in Sep'11. And also,heard that they management agreed to change the floor tiles colour but the marketing folk's still fight to change the floor tiles like Setia Pearl Island floor tiles with 2x2.
September 9, 2009 at 1:26 PMGeno: Hi Tok,
Like South Bay, the have upgrade option for their customer on solar water heater.

Hi Scott,
If that is true that they going to change the floor tiles, I believed most customer will welcome this direction.
September 9, 2009 at 1:40 PMUnknown: Penangkia,

what is your lot?
September 9, 2009 at 2:25 PMpenangkia: Wint,

What make u so keen to know what my lot is?
Owners have the right to protect privacy. Unless you have good intention.
September 9, 2009 at 4:10 PMGeno: Lot number is 8888
September 9, 2009 at 5:40 PMUnknown: In order to push the Setia on the changes on floor tiles and other cons things, we should list in the customer survey satisfaction submission form. I hope this survey will be review by their management and improvement can be taken.
Actually compare to Tmn Relau Mutiara, interm of price and material quality, Setia is far behind. One e.g is they using the red clay brick instead of the cement sand brick used by Setia. Actually Setia can do better to maintain their reputation as premium developer. Sometimes dont understand why Premium developer use the cheaper material.
September 9, 2009 at 9:36 PMnat: Dear Tok,

Agree with u. I go and compare the specification the SPI 3st and ours now.
3st vs 2st
clay brick vs cement sand brick
homogeneous tiles vs ceramic tiles
all sliding shower partition vs 1 in master room

Points
---------
32 electric vs 22
25 13A socket vs 17
7 Aircon vs 2
4 water heater vs 2
9 fan point vs 6
4 internal telephone cabling vs 2

We bought at 608k+ and they selling at 688k+,
just by 80k different,500sq bigger AND lesser by a room(a master floor) but the specification are so much less.
September 10, 2009 at 8:45 AMUnknown: Hi Nat,
So pls put all these comment into your survey form and put a poor rating form them. Let them feel our grievances. All these trivial things actually not so much cost to them and yet they want to save it. To me they are not really a premium developer for the Penang project at the moment, i choosed Vista instead of Tmn relau mutiara because the location is far from the relau apartment and the sewerage plant near by.

I hope Setia really can do something to improve it, as i they can maintain their reputation.

If there is any Setia personnel here, pls convey the messages to your management.

Seek all the Setia Vista buyer, to put a solid comment in the Customer satisfaction survey form.
September 10, 2009 at 9:40 AMUnknown: i checked with them already. they unable to upgrade from cement sand brick to clay brick. the spec will the same with the spi 3st hse.

I did place booking for tmn relau mutiara before but i pulled out before i sign sale & purchase agreement because in the agreement the spec is shown cement sand brick and not clay brick as told by sales person in tmn relau mutiara.

Tok,
r u sure they provide u clay brick for the 3st hse in spi? because i know that in spi the superlink and semi-d are clay brick and the completed 3st hse are all cement sand brick.
September 10, 2009 at 9:45 AMUnknown: so sorry. correction.. setia vista and spi completed 3st hse the spec will the same except tiles.
September 10, 2009 at 5:47 PMUnknown: Wint,
So u bought Setia Vista ?
But Tmn Relau Mutiara indeed is using red clay brick as you can see at the construction area.
September 11, 2009 at 10:34 AMUnknown: yes, bought one Setia Vista.

i feel uncomfortable the spec tmn relau mutiara sales person promised to give and not stated in the agreement.Or maybe i feel uncomfortable with unknown developer.. so sorry to say that.
September 11, 2009 at 11:46 AMKY: Cost for 1pc of Clay Brick = 3pcs of Cement Sand Brick. If all the specification change that mean the whole house plan has to resubmit for approval and this will take longer time, I don't think Setia will up-grade, so good luck to all buyer.
September 14, 2009 at 10:03 AMUnknown: Did anyone went to property fair and visited Setia booth, have the Setia Vista phase 4 sold out ?
September 14, 2009 at 9:22 PMnat: wint,
The different is not the tiles only but also the wall- spi complete is clay, vista is sand . i confirm already.

I had a shocked in my life today, i went with my
friend who had to buy tiles for renovation.
And what i discover:
Ceramic tiles-10" x 13" =Rm 1.38/pcs
Homogeneos Tiles -24" x 24" -Rm 15.40 /pcs

1Homogenour tiles =12 ceramic tiles. This is not what the sales person promise, this is real purchase where receipt issued.

My friend bought at Hooi Chuan Enterprise Sdn Bhd, Lorong Perak,Jelutong PG.

Imagine how i felt con at that time, if a walk in customer can get this price, what more a developer which buy in bulk.
September 14, 2009 at 9:26 PMUnknown: I wonder does anyone know what is the name of the engineering firm consulting for Relau Mutiara? Let me explain that it's designed by a firm called Arup (http://www.arup.com.my). I used to have a housemate who worked for Arup when I was studying my PhD in the UK. You may compare the skills of SP Setia/IJM to Arup's as if you are comparing Proton and Toyota. The parent company of Arup Sdn. Bhd. designed Sydney Opera House, National Aquatics Center, Second Avenue Subway etc. I am not sure does SP Setia have the technologies to design and build any one of these world renowned buildings...
September 14, 2009 at 9:32 PMkkong: What! So much different.

1clay=3sand
1homogenous=12ceramic tiles.

OMG, they really into earning money and not their reputation . I think our DST should have the same quality, if not better than the SPI.

The Setia DST they sell in Johor and KL are just 200-300k, now in pg it double the price -all because of their excuse of expensive land in Penang.And, sunday property section in star stated that the prices of land in pg drop compare to last quater.But, the price of house is increasing, and qualitity poorer.
September 14, 2009 at 9:44 PMScott: Woh! So much different.

I think we should put very bad comment in the survey that recently SP sent to us and also in the SP Setia website. It is really into earning money and not their reputation especially in Penang Island.
September 14, 2009 at 9:57 PMnelly: Too late, i complete the survey already without knowing all this... :(

what can be done ...
September 14, 2009 at 10:03 PMScott: Hi Sally,

Is not late!

Are you receive the hard copy survey form from SP Setia? If yes, you still have opportunity to put in. Also, you can try to go to SP Setia Website to perform another round.
September 14, 2009 at 10:18 PMScott: Hi Kok Soon,

Are you sure, the engineering firm consulting for TRM is Arup?
September 14, 2009 at 11:19 PMKY: I'd asked one of Setia sales personal during the launch of SP Setia, my 1st question to them "Are you be able to follow same as the show house for actual house?" They says "YES" except the furnitures and my 2nd question to them "Even the colour also same" I point to the tiles, They can't answer me, that mean tiles colour might be changes during construction and possibility of quality might be changes also. So be careful with this kind of developer.
September 15, 2009 at 8:43 AMUnknown: Dear all,
Pls put "dissatisfied" in the hardcopy survey form that they send to your all.
Let them feel the shame...what a branded developer use "embarassing" cheap material. Any idea how we can express our comment to their MD (Tan Sri Liew..) ? I believe media will not help on this.
September 15, 2009 at 9:43 AMUnknown: i bought spi as well. the wall is confirmed sand brick is not clay brick. Unless you are talking about superlink or semi-d in spi then is clay brick. but the house prices are a big different.

1pcs of 2'x2' homogenous=RM15, 1pcs of ceramic=RM4. not 1 homogenous=12 ceramic
September 15, 2009 at 9:53 AMUnknown: Yes, i bought spi as well. 2 1/2 storey is spi is sand brick because 3 years ago the selling price is about RM600k and superlink those provide clay brick the selling price is RM878k.

the colour of tiles unable to be 100% same as showhouse because different batch of production will unable to produce 100% same colour. sirim requirement still have about few % tolerance. tiles company not own by setia, i don't think they can assure you the colour shading.
September 15, 2009 at 10:02 AMPalymra: If you have bought property before, you should know only those stated in SnP are included/reliable. Do not believe/rely on those promises made by those sales personnel.
September 15, 2009 at 10:12 AMUnknown: before i purchase a house i will check what is the spec they provide and then only made payment. after that before i sign sale & purchase agreement i will read the spec they stated in the agreement before i commit.
then it is willing selling and willing buying.

after that i won't disagreed with what they provide those i knew earlier and make a bad comment and complaint.

i don't think developer can force anyone to buy their house. same as trm, they promise to give clay brick but in agreement is state sand brick. i feel not comfortable so i withdrawn. now lucky is construction with clay brick but if real thing won't come with clay brick then why you should do if the agreement is stated sand brick?

does setia force you to buy their house and the things in sale & purchase agreement are different than what they provide? if yes, then can file a case to tribunal court with only few ringgit to buy the form.
September 15, 2009 at 11:52 AMKY: Yes! Sirim has a few % tolerance, what about Tiles from China, does Sirim able to control them?? do you think SP used 100% tiles make in Malaysia?
September 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM梹城男孩宝宝: SP is using white horse, kimgress and gocera tiles. the tiles are local made but if they curi curi make in china, i think they won't tell SP gua..
September 15, 2009 at 6:00 PMUnknown: If I not mistaken, SP is going to supply the 500x500mm floor tiles instead of the 600x600mm or 2ftx2ft. Both are homogeneous tiles.

But what is the rational for them to use the 500x500 tiles? For a 20ft x40ft (74.42 sq mtr) built up area, they need to use at least 298pcs of 500x500 floor tiles as against 207pcs of 600x600 floor tiles. From the layman point of view, it isn’t that more tiles will require more man hours to finish the works of the same area? Pricing wise, I think both will be almost the same for the same area of floor. Any civil engineer who can clarify further on this?

Apparently, there are a lot of buyers expressing their preference over the 2’x2’ floor tiles most likely due to its trend in the Market now. Why SP would want to take the risk of jeopardizing their image for something small that can be done without much effort? It isn’t Excellent Quality is achieved through meeting the customer satisfaction? May be some other buyers will complain again if the tiles are changed to 600x600mm. May be we should consider their predicaments.
September 15, 2009 at 6:48 PMUnknown: Hi Scott,

Yes, I am sure. This was one of the reasons why I purchased a unit of Taman Relau Mutiara. Please give Arup a call if you want to be sure. Tel: 604-2278908 or http://www.arup.com.my/offices.htm.
September 15, 2009 at 8:42 PMThinker: Hi, Kok Soon,

How much The ARUP make a difference for the Taman Relau Mutiara?
Do you have a Setia unit as well?
September 15, 2009 at 9:37 PMPositionT: wy,

The labor charge for tiling 300x300, 400x400, 450x450mm (all ceramic tile) are the same. Not sure for the size of 500x500mm, but are you sure 500x500mm tile is homogeneous quality? Developer typically do these for only two possible reasons: cost saving, or less maintainence issue (less complain from purchase during Defect Liability period).
September 16, 2009 at 12:44 PMScott: Hi WY,

Is great if SP Setia going to supply 500mm x 500mm homogeneous tiles instead of ceramic tiles. At least, the homogeneous tile is better quality with compare to ceramic tile.
September 16, 2009 at 1:34 PMSimon Tan: Hi WY,

I'm a renovation contractor, currently renovating one house in Setia Pearl Island, just for your information, all floor tiles used by the developer are from local mkt, The following configuration on floor tiles, living room & dinning - 600 x 600 tiles, wet and dry kitchen - 400 x 400.
There a wide range of floor tiles in our local mkt, just be very careful when come to purchase of tiles, cos it came in with different grades as well, it can be same colors but if the tiles is in low grade, the quality is different as well.
Color degradation is another big headache for us, so good luck guys.
September 16, 2009 at 8:25 PMkkong: can anybody pls help me to understand what the different between homogenous tiles and ceramic tiles ?

i thought 2 by 2 sq is call homogenous and smaller is called ceramic, am i wrong ...
September 16, 2009 at 8:41 PMSimon Tan: kkong,

Homogenous tiles is make up of natural resources such as clay, sand & cement, the process is by molding in pieces depending on the require sizes & the finishing is putting gloss paint for coating and the last process is by putting into oven, for oven bake.
Ceramic tile - is make up of 70% ceramic as basic ingredient with the rest of the part are cement base.
September 17, 2009 at 7:51 AMUnknown: the Brezza,

The 500x500 tiles will be of homogeneous quality if the 600x600s tile in SPI are of homogeneneous quality. Otherwise, I must have been misled by the sale person because according to them, the only difference between the tiles at the ground floor of these two Projects are their sizes only.
September 17, 2009 at 10:41 AMScott: Hi WY,

If you refer back to the Setia Vista specification ---
Floor Finishes
* Car Porch :- Concrete Imprint
* Living/ Dining / Dry Kitchen/ Wet Kitchen / Bathrooms/ Staircase /All Bedrooms
:- Ceramic Tiles instead of homogeneous tiles
* Other Areas :- Cement Render
September 17, 2009 at 12:45 PMVista: Update from SP sales that Phase 1 & 2 will use 500x500 tiles. They will change the colour. For Phase 3 & 4 will use 2x2 tiles. There is no plan currently for Phase 1 and 2 for upgrade option. Reason for not changing for Phase 1 & 2 due purchase price is cheaper.
September 17, 2009 at 2:00 PMUnknown: Hi,
I know one project Bayan Residences at Jalan Relau only selling about price RM690K for 3-storey terrace house..The location just around Public Bank Relau,the exterior design is modern and floorplan are good.
September 17, 2009 at 3:01 PMThinker: It may not be too late to consider other projects nearby like Taman Relau Mutiara Phase 3 as well. No headache on the tiles. Just a suggestion. Cheers...
September 22, 2009 at 6:22 PMScott: Hi all,

I heard that the project will plan to complete in Sep 2011. So, are some one call by SP Setia to pay for the first 5%?
September 23, 2009 at 9:37 PMnat: Dear Scott,

U mean 5 pct that buyer required to pay?

I already pay 3 month ago. U mean you havent pay the inital 5 pct till now ?
September 24, 2009 at 6:21 PMUnknown: I haven't paid also.

By the way,does anyone have any idea what kind of project that is going to be carried out on the big piece of land next to Setia Vista - the land next to the drain/stream if you refer to the masterplan on top of this page.
September 24, 2009 at 9:30 PMScott: Hi WY,

I heard that this piece of land is belong to penang Goverment to build the school or institute.
September 27, 2009 at 9:56 PMScott: Any one know what is the site progress now?
September 28, 2009 at 9:02 AMUnknown: went there last week. they already cover the site area. only can see they built some sort of wall beam on the inner side.but i cant figure out how is the phase 1 actual built area. Whether it is inside or outside the wall beam. Anyone know what is this wall beam for ?
September 28, 2009 at 9:33 AMVista: If not mistaken, Phase 1 - 3 will be build inside (after wall beam). The phase 4 will outside the wall beam. Anyone have receive your stamp SnP?
September 28, 2009 at 9:36 AMVista: New master plan is available on Setia Vista website.

http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_vista/master_plan_large_new.htm
September 28, 2009 at 10:18 AMScott: Hi Vista,

Not yet. Still awaiting for SP Setia to inform.
October 2, 2009 at 2:03 PMSetiaVista Purchaser: I provided very lengthy feedback to SP regarding all the issue that we discussed in this forum. Although lengthy, my ultimate goal was a request to change the tiles from 500mmx500mm to 2x2 tiles on the ground floor. And use the original 500mmx500mm tiles on the 1st floor. In my view as a purchaser, this is fair deal as a form of compensation for the low-cost apartment which was hidden from the knowledge of purchasers at the time we booked and signed the S&P.

But guess what was the reaction from SP Penang? --- "I think you are not very happy, so would you want to withdraw?" Is this the kind of professionalism that we expect from a top developer in the country? If I want to withdraw now, I will definitely fight for my rights to claim the "opportunity costs" incurred from the time we booked the the unit, including the 5% that we have paid.

I am also seriously considering to lodge a complaint to the CAP now.
October 2, 2009 at 2:45 PMVista: SetiaVista,
This is default answer from SP. They will help you to withdraw if not happy. Secondly, only small portion of buyer unhappy coz no one complain beside those in this forum. I think they will consider this as noise.
October 2, 2009 at 5:46 PMUnknown: Hi Setia Vista,
I believe there is no use to make noise to their sales office in Pg. Some of their sales exec actually also assessing this blog and in fact know all the things we complaint. They normally said the same thing , i.e ask us to withdraw. If can pls mail to their KL HQ, CEO.If their CEO comment the same thing, then we have nothing to say, as legally they are not wrong. Just they lose their reputation only.
Earlier i copy their CEO TanSri secreatary email add : Lingyee@spsetia.com.my (TanSri Liew secretary). No harm to try it first before you go to CAP. Remember to state the name in big letter the SP person ask you to withdraw. I believe their CEO wont have so low mentallity to ask you withdraw as well.
October 4, 2009 at 11:46 AMUnknown: if not happy why don't want to withdraw? we only buy something that we think is suit us.

Before my S&P go for stamping, the sales person did call me to inform that the low cost now is there. she is asking me if i ok with it then only proceed for stamping. i feel they did make their initiative to inform buyer on this. When i placed the booking that time the planning permission of the layout hasn't approved and it is normal that the final plan included low cost was not finalized. That is normal to buy a house before plan is approve, the plan should has some changes after approval.

anyway i don't mind low cost flat is there, i was from poor family.
October 4, 2009 at 12:00 PMVista: Setia,
Look like you have good sales person. My sales person did not even inform me about the low cost there. If not mistaken, the low cost apartment plan is there since last year which approved on 10/7/08. They just make a request recently on 4/6/09 to change the plan from 1 block 10 floors to 1 block 16 floors. Refer to following URL http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Proj1_Info.cfm?Name=97114&S=S.
October 4, 2009 at 12:04 PMUnknown: Hi Setia, I agree with you.

if not happy then don't buy la..no one put gun on your head force you to buy setia vista house what. i don't understand ppl here.. not happy still want to buy and after buying make a lot of complaint.

sp setia ceo is a fair person. he won't force you to buy house from him if you are not happy with the house they sell. bear in mind la.. you have choice to choose buy or not buy before you sign s&p la.
October 4, 2009 at 12:19 PMUnknown: Vista,

i think the info from the webstie one is not accurate.low cost plan unable to approve before setia vista plan approved because low cost plan only can finalized once the setia vista layout plan is approved with the amount of units there.

last time when opened for sales we place our booking to lawyer and the form we signed was stated clearly that the plans are not approved yet and subject to change.
October 4, 2009 at 12:49 PMVista: Setia,
It will be individual discretion if don't think government website provide accurate information. I'm not sure what is the dependency on low cost plan to setia vista plan. Probably you also aware that previously the Setia Vista was target for 3-storey plan which already approved. They also just make request to change the plan from 3-storey to 2-storey.

When we placed booking, the plan might tentative. When we sign SnP, will the plan still tentative?
October 4, 2009 at 3:49 PMsvbjpg: Visited Setia Vista at SP show village. The corner unit is nice. Just that living area and master room abit small to me. But the balcony is quite unique - like the glassy look.
October 4, 2009 at 4:50 PMUnknown: Vista,

When S&P is go for stamping then the plan is no longer tentative. Anything make you think that the plan is still tentative if your s&p already go for stamping?

the s&p will attach with the floor plans and we need to initial every page.
October 4, 2009 at 6:38 PMSetiaVista Purchaser: My argument is simple:

1. Did SP Penang make it clear about the low-cost proposal when we signed the S&P? If not for some purchasers who discovered the low-cost, posted in this forum to inform people and lodge a complaint to SP Penang, will SP Penang ever inform the purchasers? This remains a big question mark.

There is no need to deny, everything is stated clearly in the government portal. SP Penang is just giving excuses now.

2. Purchasers went to complaint about the original 10-storeys low-cost when they discovered about it. But not only did SP ignored the complaint, but instead chose to increase the low-cost to 16-storeys now.

3. Purchasers signed S&P early May. Whether S&P has already been stamped as of today remains a big question mark. For purchasers who have paid 5%, how are they going to compensated if they withdraw now? Are the "opportunity costs" going to be compensated to the purchasers?

"Opportunity costs":

(a) Purchasers have deposited 5% for more than 5 months now. This 5% could have been used to purchase other properties. Because SP has accepted and held on to the 5% for more than 5 months, purchasers have lost opportunity to buy other properties.

(b) Purchasers could have profited from the bond market or the equity market or other investment opportunity with the 5% that SP has accepted and held on to the 5% for more than 5 months.

(c) Purchasers have lost even the most minimal interest from FD (2 % pa) with the 5% that SP has accepted and held on to the 5% for more than 5 months .

Do you think withdrawing now is fair to purchasers?
October 5, 2009 at 8:50 AMUnknown: Hi Setia,
I believe you are the SP personnel
Actually we know that SP can do nothing to further improve the things,just we dont understand why SP would like to save a trivial cost (like the tiles size, brick type etc). If SP dont want to absorb the cost, you can actually provide the upgrade package to the purchasers right ?
With the rude reply asking purchasers to withdraw directly show you ARE not professional in dealing with customer. There are many ways you can reject the purchasers requests in a polite ways right ? Pls be more polite, and never use the sarcastics words 'putting the gun on your head'. What is the purpose to get the customer satisfaction survey if you never consider the customer voice ?
October 5, 2009 at 9:31 AMVista: Hi Tok, SetiaVista,
I don't think anything we could do anymore. Just take the facts. In my personal view, Setia is no longer premium brand which value for money in Penang. Just hope nothing is more worst from what we know now. :)
October 5, 2009 at 10:05 AMUnknown: Tok,

Do you think that only SP personnel is the only talk like this? nope, you are wrong. I am a fair person. Before I place my booking to purchase Setia Vista house I have read the content of booking form and I know what is developer right and what is my right. After you signed then no regret about the content already. All prelaunch booking is not entitled of any interest compensation and all withdrawal the booking fee also not entitled of earnest interest as well.

If you already bought from them, you should have their booking form with you. If not just check with them.
October 5, 2009 at 10:22 AMSetiaVista Purchaser: Setia,

If you want to play by the books, then I would also like to mention that the low-cost was not part of the master plan AT THE TIME WE SIGNED THE S&P in early May 2009, at least not to the knowledge of the purchasers. Mind you, it is not at the time of prelaunch booking.
October 5, 2009 at 10:27 AMUnknown: Arrange a time to meet face to face .
I am sure the one from developer will escape very fast, disappear . This was happen sometime ago when I ask someone to come out meet face to facen , but that is under SP Setia.
I am sure the guy from developer still here.

By the way , just withdraw , look at SP Setia now , so many many units for sale , price still around the same , how to make money ?

With launching price at 600K for DST , I guess it will end up the same like SP Setia , so why not withdraw now?
October 5, 2009 at 11:47 AMUnknown: Setia Vista,

If your sales personnel never inform you then you can refer to them that whether is their responsible to inform you about low cost. If it is their responsible to inform you the future development plan surrounding the unit you purchased by regulation from Housing Act then you can file the complaint to tribunal court.
October 5, 2009 at 2:07 PMUnknown: i also wonder is that a developer responsibility or law to bind developer to tell what is the planning development surronding the existing project they are selling now..

i bought bukit gambier terrace house from sunway, they never inform me that the entrance of the road will have low cost. i also bought one condo from ivory at tanjung tokong, prelaunch that time told me that will have shopping complex and never tell me that will have low cost beside my condo. now no shopping complex but have a colourful low cost there..
when i complaint to them, they looked at me like a alien.. they told me that they are responsible with the house they sold me not more than that.
October 5, 2009 at 9:03 PMnat: Dear tok, Setiavista,
No need to argue with them regarding the low cost. We know the truth, when we know about the low cost house initially, we fan off like flies. We (everybody), call up the sp setia office, and we been told “not related, not tentative, not sure, not confirm…”.

They can deny all they want, and they have a recorded phone right, if the want to know the truth, they can. So, debating with u here, they just covering and trying to swindle their way out.

Dear Setia,
We not sure that SP penang by law have to tell us or not. But, just out of mutual respect, they have to let the potential buyer know right, moreover we are the buyer. They always claim they have good customer service, the words and action do not parallel.

I think you are not a buyer, if you are, you would know that we were not given anything when we sign the void snp. Floorplan of your unit-u dream. Never even have the decency of telling us that we signing an unstamp snp, and the sales person, W at that time told me that the effective date of the 2 years tenor would be from the 5pct date. But, in early Aug, when I know about the unstamp snp, the sales person, J told me that the effective date will be from the stamping date (which is end August).
October 5, 2009 at 9:26 PMVista: Hi Nat,
Thanks for bring up the SnP related. SP Penang does have business ethic problem. They should not take our 5pct when we sign SnP when they are not ready. If someone want to take about Housing Act, I'm not sure did SP did right thing to collect 5pct from buyer?

Refer to section 5 of http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt_en/main.php?Content=sections&SectionID=1

"The first payment of 10 per cent must be made upon signing of the Sales and Purchase Agreement. Please ensure the date of signing of the SPA and the date of first payment are the same.

Be aware that the housing developer is not allowed to collect any form of payment without a Sales and Purchase Agreement being signed."

Until today, I still not receive the stamp SnP. Disappointed with SP.
October 6, 2009 at 8:51 AMUnknown: Setiavista,
Your comment about sales exec reply you to withdraw if you are not happy.
I believe we should teach this sales person a lesson. Do u mind to send me his/her name to me ? I plan to send complaint to their HQ on their poor service in Pen. Their HQ side at least will do something on it internally.
As a buyer cannot tolerate this kind cust service attitude.....cust deserve a better service, else we should complaint.
October 6, 2009 at 10:29 AMUnknown: Nat,

I don't know about yours but when they informed me to pre sign the snp i know that it will not be stamped before their so call license has been approved. When I paid booking the gave me a form to sign and all term & condition there. From the form you can see that we are agreed to give them 6 mths to stamp the agreement. If we withdraw, they will full refund the deposit with free from interest.

I quite familiar with this process because few developers did the same method. When they say pre sign mean the snp will not stamp till they got their license. Other developers collect 10% and non refundable.
October 6, 2009 at 10:35 AMVista: Hi Setia,
Pre-sign SnP is new to me. Could I know when did you pre-sign SnP?
October 6, 2009 at 12:31 PMUnknown: I understand that in Taiwan, there was a case that when a property seller withheld information that a person has committed suicide in the house that he sold, the buyer managed to get compensation or revoked the purchase with full refund. In Taiwan, it is mandatory law to disclose all the information.

If this happened in our country, instead of defending your right, probably they will scold you as stupid. Why don't you ask the neighbor first? Why don't you stay there for 1 night to feel whether got that thing or not? Ai yah, i already told you, where got house that cheap one.

I was referring this case because any property transaction must be fully transparent and fair. The buyers must have access to all information with regards to the property. They do not have to ask, they have the right to be informed. If in other countries, they can enforce rules that protect house buyers, why it is different story in our country?

Ask the initial The Oasis house buyers, do you know who is the exclusive marketing agent of the project? It is an international well-known property agent. The agency and developer again and again assured that the issue of Kampung Buah Pala has been settled during the soft launch in early 2008. You know better after reading the newspaper.

Why the house buyers have to be subjected to all these anxiety, uncertainty & the feeling of being cheated? It it the goverment's duty to protect the citizens right. The excuse that property buyers must verify the profile of developer, check the site, do not be greedy, etc is rubbish. We are only lay people. We are not lawyers, architects or professionals.
October 6, 2009 at 1:23 PMUnknown: Setia,
I am a buyer of SV phase 1.
I believe some of the SP sales exec might not even know all these pre sign SnP. So far you are the only buyer in this blog know so well about SP procedure.
Since you already know that they will not stamp the SnP until the licence approve, so can we know when u pay the 5% ? If the licence havent approve, why they ask us to sign first and pay the 5% first ?
Even the SP and lawyer didnt tell me this is so call a pre sign SnP.You are so lucky they got tell you this is pre sign SnP.
October 6, 2009 at 2:26 PMPalymra: "Although lengthy, my ultimate goal was a request to change the tiles from 500mmx500mm to 2x2 tiles on the ground floor. And use the original 500mmx500mm tiles on the 1st floor. In my view as a purchaser, this is fair deal as a form of compensation for the low-cost apartment which was hidden from the knowledge of purchasers at the time we booked and signed the S&P."

If you do not like low-cost apartment to be near your house, you should fight to change its location. Asking something else as your compensation sound not right to me.

Go ahead to request or even complaint to CAP, better publish in The Star, I am very interested to know the outcome :)
October 6, 2009 at 6:06 PMUnknown: Vista,

I bought a unit on Apr and signed on May 09.

tze,
I didn't pay 5% when I pre sign the snp.
October 6, 2009 at 6:42 PMVista: Hi Setia,
When I signed during that time frame was not informed pre sign. When you signed another form, what is that? 5/95 offer package information?
October 7, 2009 at 9:45 AMUnknown: Vista,

Not a 5/95 offer package information form. Is stakeholder form. When you paid RM3k downpayment did you sign any form?
October 7, 2009 at 10:00 AMVista: Setia,
If you are refer to booking form, i don't think it mentioned anything on 6 months SnP stamping. I believed it does mentioned they would probably need 6 months for REQUIREMENT (eg. House developer license or advestising permit). Once we signed SnP, they should have all those license ready.
October 7, 2009 at 1:13 PMUnknown: Yes, is that booking form. When I did the signing on May, the lawyer told me is only pre sign and still waiting for license approval. i awared about this, so I only made my 5% payment when agreement is ready for stamping.
October 7, 2009 at 7:40 PMkkong: Dear setia,

There is your different with us, we had paid our
5 pct.
.
Your the first that i heard that havent pay 5pct for those that book before the priced increment.
.
u mean till now u just have paid 3k?
October 8, 2009 at 9:02 AMUnknown: KKong,
Not only Setia, i have confirmed there are some buyer still havent pay the 5% till now. Could be SP didnt flw up with the buyer.

Btw, do your all know have SP actually really signed the S&P, as till now they never call up to pick the S&P.
October 8, 2009 at 10:53 AMVista: Few weeks ago had being informed by SP and lawyer that SnP had stamp. Unfortunately till today, still have not recieve the signed SnP.
October 9, 2009 at 8:39 PMnat: Dear guys,

proven that sp setia really con us.

i received my stamp snp. and discover, the date indicated on 1/9,and stamp 2/9. when i already pay 5pct on june.
October 9, 2009 at 8:46 PMkkong: nat,

the letter of offer
5a)to executive spa on 21 days of letter of offer
b)the different (which is 5pct) 45 days from letter of offer.

so, u pay the 5 pct later (or like some who never pay)after signing snp?
October 9, 2009 at 8:55 PMnat: wat! i pay on the same day as signing snp.

SP setia and para-legal, F say i have to pay after signing the snp, so they can have it stamp on the following mon. accordingly to law, they right.

but, why, now is the stamp date on sept.

so, how about u guys also get con....
October 9, 2009 at 10:03 PMKK: nat, did you receive any official receipt on the 5% payment you made in june? if yes and the receipt's dated june, then you have a case with SP. you can report to ministry of housing as according to SnP, first payment needs to be paid UPON signing of SnP.
October 9, 2009 at 10:58 PMVista: nat, you may log complain at http://ehome.kpkt.gov.my/aduan-online/entry/aduanperumahan.cfm
October 11, 2009 at 1:17 PMUnknown: good. logde the complaint and make the project get stop work order. the housing ministry will tarik balik the license and cancel the project.
October 11, 2009 at 7:38 PMVista: If thing so simple, how good with it be. If so straight forward, do you think developer will dare to do it? Just my 2cent.
October 11, 2009 at 9:47 PMUnknown: Dear All, I,m new to this blog. Ih ave book a unit recently. Anyone interested to use their name for the referal...share 50/50. please reply to my email davidsetiavista@gmail.com

I have capture some site photos..today... anyone interested. ..so how to upload to this blog? pls help.
October 11, 2009 at 10:12 PMUnknown: I have make some survey on my plot - type Acacia today. Saw some marker already fixed on the plot. I guess i'm standing at the correct plot i hope.

I have confirmed with sp the low cost is below the retain wall and at the side of phase 4. so phase 1,2,3 has a higher ground by at least 30 feet. From the site view is a distance from the project except phase 4. If you go to the main project enterance the low cost is somewhere between the project enterance and west of the small river. The river is just in front of the enterance.

I managed to get to my plot and the location seems ok to me..like a valley surrounded by hill. Saw some work on phase 1 & 2 started already...I'm not sure if any retain wall up to phase 1 if yes then the area is quite secure..if not wall hopefully some gate of fence.

Pls contact me urgently for the referral name. thanks.
October 12, 2009 at 8:49 AMUnknown: Hi Nat,
May i know how u receive the stamp SnP, Laywer pass to you or SP sent to you ?

Rgds
October 12, 2009 at 8:50 AMVista: Hi David,
Congratulation on your purchase. Probably you can create account in Flickr and upload the photo there.
October 12, 2009 at 8:52 AMUnknown: Dear all,
Do your all receive a letter from SP, asking whether we have secure the housing loan and also ask us to extend a copy of housing loan letter offer to SP ?
I doubt why SP asking the letter from the buyer instead of the bank.
By tight now, they should have all the required info already.
October 12, 2009 at 8:58 AMUnknown: Hi DavidSetiaVista,
May i know how much you buy for Acacia ?
October 12, 2009 at 9:39 AMkenD: hi davidsetiavista,

you can email the site photos to the blog admin (apartmentpenang@gmail.com) to uplod your photos here.
October 12, 2009 at 11:24 AMUnknown: Hi. Tze

Booked it for 650K additional 15K for end lot and less 28sf (3k) deduction from backlane cutoff. They say additional cost for the wall and additional side windows. Will find out later what kind of additional things for the 15K.
October 12, 2009 at 12:22 PMVista: Wow. So expensive now. 650K for end lot. Beauty of end lot is that your house will be brigther. The cons will be that you need more windows grill and alarm sensor point.
October 12, 2009 at 12:51 PMUnknown: Hi DavidSetiavista,
Since the corner lot already 650K, did u consider the SPI subsale 3 sty terrace which can get around 699k ?
October 12, 2009 at 5:56 PMUnknown: Hi. Tze

I have been looking around SPI last week. Have call up some owners and agent..currently around 700 to 730K except those infront of the pond/garden reserved by SPI staff selling 850k. If you have any pls email me at davidsetiavista@gmail.com
October 14, 2009 at 6:41 PMUnknown: Already has a referral thanks all.
October 16, 2009 at 8:00 AMUnknown: Dear all,
Have your all receive stamp SnP from SP ?
October 16, 2009 at 9:31 AMScott: Hi Tze,

you need to call lawyer office to get it from them.
October 19, 2009 at 12:01 PMVista: Hi All,

Had you received letter from SP Setia to remit the payment for Stage 2a (10%) for Foundation work? The due date for payment is somewhere early next month. Suprise on this letter as I have not receive my stamp SnP yet and how does my bank going to proceed the loan.
October 19, 2009 at 5:33 PMnat: Dear vista,

u can ask your lawyer, they should have a copy by now. when i collect from my lawyer, a lot people are collecting.

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