The Surin Condominium is ideally located on a 3.4 acres of development land in Tanjung Bungah Penang, a location of prestige that attracts not only locals but expatriates alike. Surin brings affluent living in Penang to a whole new level with its range of luxuries: an infinity swimming pool, a rooftop garden, ample car parking bays and 24-hours security.
The Surin consists of 2 luxury condominium blocks of 28-storey each and a total 390 units of freehold sea-view condos. Each unit offers a built-up area from 1,307 sq.ft. up to 2,827 sq.ft.
Property Project : Surin Condominium
Location : Tanjung Bungah, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Freehold
No. of Blocks : 2
No. of Storeys : 28
Total Units : 390
Built-up Area : approx. 1,307 - 2,827 sq.ft.
Developer : Bolton Berhad
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1018 Newer› Newest»For those who are considering to take up their offer, i suggest to you DONT. You are abetting Bolton to run foul of the building plan when you agree/instruct them to knock down an existing wall and build a new one, against the approved building plan. There are legal implications in doing this. There will also be complications when applying for strata title if you do this.
The best move is to wait for the building to be completed, delivered to you with vacant possession and OC (Occupancy Certificate - or CF/CFO - Certificate of Fitness for Occupation). After that, it will be fairly easy to claim late delivery damages from Bolton. You need to know how to send your claims properly to get it done quickly.
Right now, in response of receiving the letter from Bolton, you should reply by registered post asking them to confirm that this is in accordance to the approved building plan and that it will not affect the application/issuance of the strata title later. Also ask them who the land surveyor is/will be. Shoot the same questions to the surveyor. cc one copy to MPPP and the land office.
What is the correct procedure to claim for late delivery?
Please share with us, I'm a first property buyer.
Dear Alex,
4.5K is for hacking and rebuild.
Thanks Hairy and MMM,look like i have to change my plan after hearing so many advices from those experts.Maybe i will keep the original wall and build the outside wall/grill after OC obtained.look weird?i used to buy landed properties and first time for me to buy a condominium,really dont know what to do with this Foyer.If you guys have better suggestions just let me know,thanks in advance.
From the Bolton's letter, my understanding is that said upgrading will only be made after vacant possession is made and local authority's approval for upgrading is formally obtained. For these 2 conditions to be met, the demolition of original wall is required before a new wall can be built.
Hidden Gems beside Surin!GREAT PLACE! GREAT LOCATION!!
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2011/06/14/166.html
Noticed that tower B is already being painted, it is different as compared to the complete-grey from the model and picture. The building is now white with light blue strips added, quite similiar to the Brezza except the later is using dark grey colour. I kinda like it, definitely looks more lively as compared to the dull grey. Observed that The Light Linear also being painted currently, but i must say that the complete-white is really disappointing, together with the standard squarish design, the whole buiuding looks like a work in 70-80s...
When the repair of the road is finishing.. its annoying................
Went to have a look yesterday . Taking good shape and works being done for the pool. Tower B looks set to be ready in a few months.
The land beside Surin open for sales
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylisting/687410/Tanjung_Bungah_Residential_Land_ForSale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3VimQ43QcA
entrance must go along coaster tower, straight regency... sure slow moving or jam in future on that road....
Surin will have new entrance, same as the lorry entrance now....
oO not bad..
If balcony railing are fit with glasses instate of iron gill, it would be marvelous. What a waste!!. Developer should not tried to save some money on this important image since this is their first project in Penang
TIMAS,
Is the lorry entrance at Persiaran Tanjong Bungah or Persiaran Tanjong Bungah 2? You may wonder why I ask this question instead of doing site visit to see it for myself. I am a buyer residing overseas and I have not been to the construction site for over 18 months.
The entrance will be in front of The waterfront condo. between surin tower b and coaster tower.
Thanks TIMAS.
Has anyone send out legal letter to developer to claim late delivery interest? How do we claim late delivery interest from developer? I think we should get one lawyer to represent all affected buyers. I've contacted Rajen & Lim (office in Northam Tower tel : 604 2101311) and the lawyer (Franky Lim) ask me to draft own letter and .cc copy them. I begin to wonder this lawyer represent buyer or developer although I get free legal fees when I purchase the property. Can someone shed some light about the process? Thanks in advance.
Hi
when is your S&P stamped?
Hi Timas,
My S&P dated 05.Sep.2008. Just consult another lawyer (BHTan) for second opinion. According to lawyer, there is nothing we (buyer) can do except wait until VP. Once VP, all affected buyer can start claim the late delivery interest through lawyer. Best to get all affected buyer to go through one lawyer. Obviously buyer cant appoint panel lawyers to represent affected buyers due to conflict of interest. They were appointed by developer and they will not be in the position to negotiate the best compensation for affected buyer.
Hi,
I want my $$$ back. This is taking too long!!!!
Bolton u SUX!!!! Seriously waiting this long!!!!
Irritating!!!!
Does anyone agree with me????
As stated in the S&P (page 10)
1) "Vacant Possession of the said Parcel shall be delivered to the Purchaser in the manner stipulated in clause 26 herein within 36 calendar months from the date of this Agreement."
2. "If the Vendor fails to deliver vacant possession of the said Parcel in the manner stipulated in clause 26 herein within the time stipulated in subclause (1), the Vendor shall be liable to pay to the Purchaser liquidated damages calculated from day to day at the rate of ten per centum (10%) per annum of the purchase price from the expiry date of the delivery of vacant possession in subclause (1) until the date the Purchaser takes vacant possession of the said Parcel. Such liquidated damages shall be paid by the Vendor to the Purchaser immediately upon the date the Purchaser takes vacant possession of the said Parcel."
According to lawyer (BHTan), in most cases developer will compensate through renovation which means no "cash compensation" or they will only compensate 1/2 the actual amount due to buyers. No doubt there is flaw in our legal system where buyer were not protected by scrupulous developers. Unless buyer agree to haul the developer to court if they refuse to compensate.
Hi Unknown,
Very informative & attention to detail. Buyers should read their fine print before accepting any offers from BOLTON. They SUX and are trying to go through the back way of compensating us all.
Unknown, please provide me details and we shall keep in touch. I have reliable contacts and we should present our cases together.
God bless.
wow, surin is bolton 1st project?
Hi unknown,
signed or stamped 05.Sep.2008? S&P will only effective after stamped. ok, lets consider due 5 sept 2011, they should deliver by end of the year. so is late for 3 months. consider you bought your unit at 450k, that means you should have abt 10k from them. You have 10k for your new hse renovation from bolton :) Anyone here early than 05 sept 2008?
looks like they gonna delay the tower A as well. The construction has basically halted since half a year back. S&P stamp date is end-2009, expected completion end 2012. With the current progress i doubt that they can complete on time.
called bolton today, been told by sales agent tower A first stamped was MAY 2010 not end of 2009.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4708788126_2ce54b8f44_b.jpg
Drove past Surin the other day, Tower B already pretty much completed, and it looks great. When would be the O.C? I heard from a banker friend that the O.C. will only be given after the whole project is completed, in this case including the central block with car parks and facilities, and also Tower A. Can the O.C. be issued out separately for Tower B in this case? Anybody can confirm?
Also would appreciate if anybody managed to get inside the Tower B and snap a photo or two to share, really curious to find out how the seaview looks like. I am interested in seaview <10th floor unit, think price should be more reasonable. Already noticed people putting up for subsales currenty.
Dear Bolton,
I happen to drove by and saw that the air con duct from the outside master bedroom up to the balcony was not conceal. That's obvious and it looks so ugly. If that is true, I think it's a mistake made by you. Don't try to save this sort of money. It's still not too late to get it conceal back by now. Don't forget that this is your first project in Penang.
Timas,
My friend has an unit at Tower A, the s&p stamp date was Dec'09. This is proven genuine as he has showed me the copy of the document, no challenge. Just went there to check on the progress yesterday, looks like they are now doing the final touch up for Tower B, and already resuming the works in Tower A which have been stalled for months. Bolton only has slightly more than a year to deliver to owners of Tower A in this case, good luck.
Hi,
I just noticed on a map of the project of future dual lane road Teluk Bahang - Tg Bunga that it will pass right in front of Surin.
As it is a 2x2 lanes, it may be a bit noisy... what do you think ?
hi fox,
you mean the road in between Surin and Waterfront?just too bad if it is true.
Fox,
This had plan since 10 years ago as you can see now partially of the road was 2X2.
I think it will not be a great impact to Surin as it was alternate road only. People will still prefer drive through original main road and is more convenient rather than you drive big round to infront of Surin. Furthermore federal gov did not allocate any budget/ fund to this project.
Yes correct Chong.
If it is done, I do not think it will be an alternate road but a main 2 x 2. I saw that on an UOB Penang map dated oct, 2011 but I cannot find it on internet to show you. Basically this new road start/continue Jl Lengkuas directly between Surin & Beverly hills/waterfront, then it continues to Shamrock beach houses, then behind Miami green. to BF and then to Teluk Bahang.
If they built in Teluk Bahang this new Forest eco theme park (+ Butterfly farm + Penang national park), that give a good reason to go head with the project as the original small road (seafront) is much too small and narrow for this kind of traffic...
To me, it makes sense but it is a question of budget of course and time...
Dear TIMAS,
If you want fast development, you cannot rely on federal because federal needs to take care of everything in this country and they don't have enough resources to do it (in spite of having a high ratio of gov servant to population in the region). Key office holders are too busy with buying luxury condos using THE PEOPLE's money, therefore no time to plan for development activities.
So at the end of the day, Penang gov needs to be proactive, rather than keep saying "we can't get money from federal", it will have to think of innovative ways to come up with own resources to build these roads.
Hi Fox,
In case you can read Chinese words
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2011/05/08/16.html
for me i don't think is a big issue to build this road in front surin, for sure the traffic flow will become more heavy but still can acceptable as i research on the plan they proposed. The small road only start from Shamrock beach, Tanjung bungah main road until surin still in 3+3 so u prefer using 3 line main road or 2 line road?
Condomana,
Yes, Penang Gov always blamed on federal regarding budget allocated to upgrade infrastructure in Penang, They have find their own way to do so.
Penang plays a prominent part in the whole country economy, currently the 3rd largest-economy in the country after selangor and Johor. Two-thirds of medical tourism revenue goes to Penang and it contributes 10 per cent of the nation’s GDP. Penang ranked 4th in the country in terms of tax contribution. However with all these Penang only getting 3% as return from federal government, and need to find their own way in getting fund to support the continue development and infrastructure upgrade. I don't think the current way of state government handling the situation is sustainable, there aren't much land-bank left in the island to swap with the investor in order to fund the development, not to mention those golden zone along the north-eastern coastline.
What is psf price now for 1037sf unit Tower A ?
When to Surin just now saw all the air con piping is not conceal in the wall ,it just cover with a plastic cover and you can see it at the balcony .
hello all...
does anybody knows of an access/link to photos of surin's interior finishing? been curious about how it looks like in actual (since there wasn't really a show unit opened for public viewing).
also close up photos on the middle facilities block (swimming pool etc). the design is again different from the brochures..there is now a roofed structure + a jolly green dinosaur on top of the block which did not appear in the drawings.(aware the brochures are only conceptual drawings based on their past explanations, just want to know how much deviation there is)..
thanks...
Wonder when it is going to be finished? Last I checked they said Dec will be amlmost finished and OC by Feb 2012. Well Dec has come and gone and Feb is fast coming.
On another matter I have checked with a property developer friend of mine on the late payment. He said that most developers will try to "negotiate" with buyers by wither throwing in a kitchen or some renovation or offer 25% or 50%. He told me to forget it and just file a complain with the Housing tribunal and it is 100% clear cut case can win. There is no need for lawyers fee etc.
I also asked that usually the S&P is signed with a new company and not Bolton or the main company itself so if anything happen lawsuit etc the main company is protected.
I was informed that nowadays if the Housing Tribunal finds the company guilty it will blacklist not just the company itself but also the main parent company and they will not be given any approvals for new projects.
I am not sure how true this info is .. can anyone with more experience comment? I hope when the day come and if Bolton try to use negotiation tactics to reduce its compensation we can all reject it and stand firm that we want 100% or we will file a case with the Housing tribunal. The Housing Tribunal was set up specifically to handle cases like this.
MMM,
So you went to surin and saw the plastic cover on the wall surface. That was ugly right? Details are importance. We buy from reputable company bcos we want details finishing. Otherwise might as well simply buy from any other company. Can't belief such a company can do such a work. I wonder how is the interior later when oc obtain.
I visited the place today and saw that there was a side opening on the road that was not closed so what else ...go in lo.
Guardhouse, car park all done road also done. finishing work on landscaping....went to the car park and saw the view was very good. We have a great view and i was on the ground floor so the unit views are even better with the new semid's in front i doubt there will be any immediate project to block the view but still too early to say.
took some pics but did not get to go inside the units. Surin plot of land is wide ie good view but no depth so the guardhouse to carpark is very near..no wonder the facilities are on the rooftop but the benefit is more units have good view and finishing in general looks good. BTW I am not working for developer.
I heard we should OC and collect keys together on end of Feb. The good news is I heard that the late payments will be paid to buyers together when we collect our units. If this does happen then Kudos to Bolton. We will have to wait and see.
another project launching at Batu Feringghi 1200 sq ft and 1 car park also selling for 680k already and 2nd car park need to buy bidding style.
mind to share your pic?
just a few pics taken on my handphone nothing much but if you like to see it sure. how do i send or post?
If you don't mind, please share with all of us and send to apartmentpenang@gmail.com. I am buying Tower A which will have to wait another year before it complete :(
I am a buyer of tower B
Progressive billing
Received letter this morning thro ordinary mail.
Have a look at this.
Letter dated :27/12/2011
Due date: 17/01/2012
Date on envelope: 09/01/2012
Date received: 16/01/2012
Is it possible to settle the payment within the given dates?
I am a buyer of tower B
Progressive billing
Received letter this morning thro ordinary mail.
Have a look at this.
Letter dated :27/12/2011
Due date: 17/01/2012
Date on envelope: 09/01/2012
Date received: 16/01/2012
Is it possible to settle the payment within the given dates?
BM Guy - You buy with cash? or else not your issue. Bank will settle for you, just ring them.
For the mistake of Bolton's staff in sending out the progressive payment notice late, u have to pay more than twice the usual bank interest. Your bank will charge u the loan interest as stipulated in your loan agreement signed once said progressive payment has been paid to Bolton. Bolton will charge u separately overdue interest of 10%pa ( which could be higher than your loan interest rate)for the period from 17 Jan to the date your cheque is banked into Bolton's bank account as stipulated in the S&P Agreement executed. If your bank loan interest rate is below 10%pa which is Bolton’s overdue interest rate, u’ll then pay more than twice the interest amount u pay to your bank for the period from 17 Jan to the date Bolton banks in your bank loan cheque. Again, it depends on how fast Bolton can bank in said cheque! For those of u who pay using your own fund, Bolton will still charge u overdue interest for the period from 17 Jan to the day your cheque is banked into Bolton's bank account.
AL- i am not agree with you said, very simple thing need to do from BM GUY- Just call up bolton and your bank. If you apply loan normally they just "cc" you and "to" your bank. You will receive letter in ordinary post, bank will receive register post or pos laju (This is for the legal firm to ensure you had sign and received the notice so that they can take action on you when you argue(legal requirement). Or else you just tell Bolton, you and your bank never receive any notice regarding the draw down. As my experience,you just need to call developer express your concern and waived the interest. Meanwhile ask bank expedite.
The question is whether this late posting is a deliberate act to lessen the payout from the late delivery payment?
The amount late delivery payment minus the interest for late payment to Bolton will be the amount we are going to receive?
It would be very interesting to see how the calculation will be made with regards to the late delivery payment .
BM guy , mine also same as your due date was 17 Jan 2012 and received the cc copy on ard 12 Jan 2012. Today i received Loan Drawdown statement from my banker OCBC dated 11 Jan 2012 .
Don't worry as mentioned by TIMAS .
I encountered something like this before with the other project (commercial), at that time it was still on 2nd progressive payment and I am required to settle the 5% myself and not the bank. The letter was received on 18-Jan-10, and the expiry date stated as 20-Jan-10. Obviously 2 days is not sufficient for me as i am staying state away from the developer office, and will be under business trip 2 days later. I also refused to pay through online as the amount is too huge for a normal payment transer but require to use TT, which will incur admin charges. I called up the office, the PIC told me they have already sent out the letter on 28-Dec, and it was not their interest to know why the letter took this long to reach me. They insisted that i have to pay on time else interest will be imposed. I was furious then and asked to talk to their big boss directly. Finally I managed to pay 2 weeks later, with no interest.
Morale of story is, avoid guessing and speculation, things will not be in your way if you don't help yourselve. Give the office a call directly and find out yourselve won't take you too much time.
Any more units left?
I have received notification that vacant possession has now been obtained and we need to pay up by 22 Feb.
Yes good new for Surin owner ! Received Delivery Of Vacant Of Possession registered letter just now .
新年前收到这讯息，非常好意头！
新年有新居，龙年肯定顺顺利利！
FINALLY!!!!......
At looong last!.... cool!...
Yeahhhhhhhh......A good CNY gift to my family member !
So what needs to be done take VC?
Surin Tower B had potential increased to RM 550 - Rm 600 per sf once OC obtain in April 2012 ! Watch out ;)
What we need to do now is to pay up the balance, get the keys and start renovating the foyer! I was told that the local council did not approve the previous application for Bolton's proposed foyer's renovation. Bolton had therefore abandoned its plan previously proposed to renovate the foyer for better usage. Does any one know whether or not we need the local council's approval for change of internal layout? Can any one recommend any good carpenter to work on kitchen and bedrooms?
Vacant possession in Febuary, OC in April . So we pay service fees from Febuary but can't move in.
Can we start renovation in Febuary ?
Anybody knows about the late delivery compensation?
What's the diff between OC and VC? Isn't both the same?
Clause 26 of your S&P Agreement details the difference between vacant possession and certificate of Completion and compliance from local council (CCC). Some people call it Occupation Certificate(OC) or Certificate of Fitness (CF). In the case of Surin Tower B, CCC was obtained by the Architect on 18 Jan 2012. Once u or your bank pays up the balance, key(s) to your unit will be given to u. U'll then inspect your unit listing down all the defects(see Clause 29). Once the listed defects have been rectified, u can then commence renovation. I think some one has previously made the confusion by mentioning about OC in April.
Guys, I went over to the site yesterday just to check out the works after receiving the letter of delivery of vacant possession. It is indeed all almost nicely don up. Landscape was up as well and it was guarded by two security officers sp I cant went in. I had a word with some of the construction workers and they said the recreational/car park block was completed as well with the pool all filled up. Looks like the handling over of keys is near. Will be sharing the photos later. However, one thing that I am mot unhappy was that eventhough we managed to obtained the OC, I doubt the units was habitable as construction of Tower A was ongoing and it is only at around 13th floor. So, looks like it will take almost another year. I also doubt we can barely use the recreational facilities and dust will be all over the place. I thought that is most unfair to us the Tower B buyers where our compensation will be stopped and we had to endure another year of waiting without any compensation. Is this the way hor reputable company works?!!
What or who is a stake holder?
What is his function ?
Stake Holder is KN Lee & Associates, the solicitor of GLM Property Dev SB (GLM). Its function is to hold 7.5% of each condo's purchase price and release them to GLM when certain conditions are met and at certain times as specified under Stages 4 and 5 of Payment Schedule stipulated in the S&P Agreement.
hi there- i live abroad and have purchased a unit in block a- any idea as to when block a will be completed?? many thanks
Tower A should wait another year to complete.
Just called Bolton and have been advised that we have till 22 Feb to make the final payment and the late delivery damages will be paid on the day we take vacant possession
RM0.25s/f is bit expensive because central park is only RM168 for 2500 s/f how you all think?
well, it is kinda expensive. But once JMB is formed, you have all the right to decide your own mnt fee. From what I observe, surin is only offering standard facilities with no additional tennis/squash/badminton courts to maintain, anything <=20cent should be reasonable.
Summer place is working on JMB now, pretty fast.
Went to view Surin this morning. It looks nice especially the colourful flooring at lobby with the hanging chairs....+ gym + swimming pool
KK , any photo taken ?
Wondering whether they put in connecting point for Astro Beyond
Can we just walk in and have a look ?
No security guards.
The guard house is ready with handsome & pretty security personnel. You need arrangement to go in.
I have emailed some photos to apartmentpenang. Hope they will post it soon.
Thanks KK! The photos looked nice. Are there any more photos of the pool and lobby?
~Kevin
I don't mind to pay 25 cents if they provide good service lo... The important is quality of life
Wow so nice the seaview from swimming pool taken by KK ! Excited to go there tomorrow afternoon ......who want to join ?
KK, thanks the beautiful picture, but we have problem goin into it. THe guard is very tight at this moment. Even I proove to them that i am the one of the owner
KK make me jealous on Block B owner :( , i need to wait another year more to move in. Anyway thanks for your pic, really nice.
Yes, the security is tight.
I think once the bank release the payment, bolton will handover the keys to tower B owners by next week. Should be able to start renovation works in March 2012.
Timas, we hope Tower A can be completed asap as well to complete this Surin Project.
Personally, I feel the interior design is nice and quality especially chairs, tables, walls, floors, flowers etc......
I am just wondering how is it possible that they can issue the VP and OC for this project when Tower A is not completed yet?
By right both towers have to be completed before OC can be obtain.
By right the earlier buyers are entitle to 1 year of late delivery compensation...
Owners who have collected your keys, please advise if Bolton has settled the late delivery compensation. Thanks
Hi all future neighbors, I will b doing inspection on my unit next week. hopefully workmanship & quality lives up to expectation of the luxury condo tag by bolton.
Hi unknown I have some questions to ask you can you email me your email adds? I am MMM my email esheng88@yahoo.com tq
Hi all future neighbors, I will b doing inspection on my unit next week. hopefully workmanship & quality lives up to expectation of the luxury condo tag by bolton.
Hi MMM, I ord email to u. U can respond via it.
-unknown-
Anyone already inspected your unit?
Cannot wait to see how good is Bolton's property.
i saw some awesome photos put up in i property.com malaysia web site.
this is really a nice place to stay.i am sure you guys will like it too.
Thanks KK for the nice photo. I have sent some pictures on the guardhouse and frontview to the administrator of this website today. Hope that they can post it asap. Really cant wait to get in to my unit now that I saw the ID was so fantastic. Looks like the price will shoot up some more.
Anybody can share some photos on the seaview? Either from the balcony or from the pool, thanks.
I will post some photos nxt week after inspection.
JT, u can also check out some good shots from http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylisting/1353856/Tanjung_Bungah_Condominium_ForSale
Just visit a unit this morning 1300s/f hill view interior .The room is too small and missing window that should have.Toilet?I don like it at all.
A lot of hacking work must do in front of the main door.
Ceiling height not even 10f.
I have photo to share ,if anyone interested pls add me at my FB esheng88@yahoo.com or just email me TQ.
room size and toilets are small... have to rethink on the design!
How about the workmanship quality?
PROS:
- wall finishing workmanship not bad
- There's a Jacuzzi, according to mr foo next to swimming pool
- common area e.g. guests waiting bay and community hall nicely done (But too many community hall which i think could best use to convert some into games room etc.)
- quite a lot of recreational hang out area which looks trendy and comfy
- designated loading bay for cargo
- nice view
- of course, entrance and guard house looks good
- every block got it's own visitors drive through for passengers drop/pick up.
- for my unit, car park bay is good and convenient
- so far, no hollow sound for unit tiles
CONS:
- for each floor, staircase entrance not covered with door. Very ugly sight exposing the cement staircase and flooring. I plan to contribute my bathroom doors!
- gym too small, equipment far too few
- rooftop recreational area and pool is OK, but I felt lacking. could be better and more spacious if gym were to be built 1 floor below according to original plan
- rooms and toilets surprisingly very small, while living and dining area is very spacious
- beware, balcony grill is a bit rusty
- room and toilet doors made of soft board, a lot of defects
- cheap plastic covering for air con piping across the balcony and not embedded in the wall; need to spend extra to cover with plaster.
CONCERNS:
- front foyer might not be a waste after all; according to mr foo, there's a chance owners could get green light to renovate the front foyer (as bolton marketed); he is trying to clarify with HQ on this restriction.
- For those whom are due to receive late penalty cheque, have to wait still. According to mr foo & co, awaiting for KL Finance dept to finalized.
CHEATED:
- floor to ceiling height not 11feet as marketed
- for 1307sqft, 2nd room has only got 1 small window (the other 2 windows missing); it really matters especially for corner units like mine.
- only 2 tier security to your unit: guard house and lift access
maverick> In that case can we complain or ask the developer to do something because they did not build according to specification?
Need to seriously check what specs are stated inside S&P and what are not. Or else they can easily say "The pictures are for illustrative purpose only, and may be subjected to changes".
All the cheat item not spell in SNP..., only i saw rooftop plan was w/o gym but gym location was not state so still arguable. Anyone inspect 1520 sqft unit? How was the 2nd and 3rd room? is it look tiny?
I will go for my unit 1530sf on Monday 12pm and will update to all at 1pm.
MMM - You own 2 units in tower B? Your unit located at pool side or costal tower? mind to take the seaview photo from master room and share?
Hi Timas just one unit, facing costal tower .photo? No problem.
I am mine type B at tower A low floor face hill side,, wait your good news.
Dear all,
Haven't sought professional advice, yet.
But in my opinion, buyers might be able to hold Bolton liable for 2 things which I spotted:
1) Stated in S&P Fourth Schedule (Building Des): Bedroom/Kitchen & Utility doors are provided with Timber door, which in fact is only cheap soft board door with defects.
2) In brochures for marketing material, is clearly stated 3-Tier Security, which is not the case. This is neither artiste impression nor illustration.
As for the missing windows in 2nd room for 1307sqft, it was in the unit layout plan with measurements and room sizes. This layout plan is not attached to S&P, so not sure if can hold them liable for the missing windows.
I'm not sure with you guys, but to me, the two missing windows is a big deal cause I don't like rooms without ample natural lighting.
maverick- agreed with you, i am attract with the high ceiling but now...... it not longer looks grand with lower ceiling after we put plaster
After read through some of the comment, feel really down and disappointed with the PROMISE from Bolton, especially the ceiling height,anyway, i will be going for inspection next month, hope to hear more from others while waiting for my turn to inspect my unit. Please drop me an email or add me in MSN so that we can talk more, thanks.
wetdressguy@hotmail.com
we should group together as owners to complain that theyre not building according to what they market (window and the door) as stated by maverick.
Wah!...Windows missing? First of its kind!
From you guys' comment, now my exitement has died off. Going to pay for the deposits and service charges this Saturday and arrange for viewing. Count me in when you guys want to group together to have a go against this so called "reputable" delevoper. We shoud not be giving them any more chances!!!
Kit> I think many people here especially those who bought 600k and above have very high expectations on their units. The units should be fine if you dont expect too much.
Count me in too when you want to group for a complain but we can always voice them out during inspection when they ask us to sign some kind of form. Just dont sign haha
Unity is good.
Inspect, compile and discuss on what u guys wanna bring up.
FYI: Explanation given when asked on ceiling height, the height on your unit floor to the immediate floor on top of you is 10.5 feet. How to accept that kind of explanation?
Be prepared.
Settled all my payment today and made an appointment to view the unit next month. Just pray that it didn't dissapoint too much.
The staff told me that most probably the OC will be out during MArch. But I doubt it will be habitable then as constuction was going on for Tower A till evening. Just imagine the amount of dust that you will be dealing with. Worst will be the swimming pool which is just beside the construction area. This is what DISSAPOINT me most.
UNKNOWN: I think you are right. Those paying about 600k will definitely expect more. More so if you are buying it to stay. I initially had very high expectation after I saw the photos on the common area which undeniably looks cool.
MAVERICK: I think the third tier of security will means you own unit's door. If you install another grill that will be four tier. But I initially had expected the entrace of the lobby to have another tier of security. They are good at playing with words, don't they?!
For the timber door, after i scrutinized the S&P, only for the entrance to ther unit is stated that we wil get solid timber door. The rest of the door will be timber (chip board) door I presumed. The gym was realy not in the floor plan that was in the S&P, so perhaps wecan do something about this.
They can argue a lot on what that is not stated in the S&P but it is in the brochure. But it will forever stick in my mind that I felt CHEATED. I doubt I will ever buy another development from them again.
KIT>> So this means that we can not win in the argument with the developer since all of it is not in the S&P??
For those who already did their unit inspection, did they ask u to sign the service form or some kind of form after inspection? What did u guys do? Just sign?
Hi Kit,
The 3-Tier was very clearly being sold as guard house, lift lobby area and lastly lift access to the floors. These were the exact confirmation from Bolton direct staffs and also the sales agents in the gurney plaza booth.
Yup bro, gym is not originally on the top floor. It was supposed to be one floor right below swimming pool. Of course by relocating the gym on the rooftop, Bolton get to sell the area as carparks. Besides that, with a much smaller gym, Bolton don't have to furnish too many equipment to save cost, else the originally bigger gym will look so empty and lame. Haihh.. the gym is a joke.
All the best in your inspection.
Just visited my unit today and the photo will upload to my FB later.
For my unit no 2 kitchen is too small so have to hack the wall to make it bigger.
Ceiling not more than 10 f.
Poor finishing wall in my masterbed room.
Some of the floor tiles is different colour .
From the owner manual I notice that Bolton are using low grade tiles for this project.
RM2000 deposit for renovation but 10% means Rm 200 non refundable fee for administrative changes.
P/s I still think RM 380 per month is expensive because we only have a small pool and a small gym only.What you all think pls comments .
I'm using my unit to be a showroom pls visit me after OC.
Yes i also think rm380 is damn expensive and there are no more 3 tier security.
Bolton change the roof top garden to gym ,some of the unit without window ,balcony without glass panel , ceiling height not more than 10f .
What can we do ?
MMM,
Where is your unit? Is it a type B?
MMM- How was type B windows? missing in 2nd and 3rd room?
Hi AL n TImas ,
my unit is OK window is still there ,but master bedroom is small. Kitchen is small.
What are you doing Bolton!!!!!!!!!!!
wow, RM380 per month??? is damn expensive man, the amount is more than RM130k if stay over 30 yrs, -.-"
Ha ha........my master room is big , my kitchen is big , Mine unit worth 2.4m haha ;-)
Just inspected my unit. I think enough has been said about the low ceiling height, defectives doors, small bedrooms/kitchen/dining area/gym. So, no need for me to elaborate or repeat.
I just want to add that there are way too many protrusions at the corners of each bedrooms. Not only do they take up considerable amount of space, they make the rooms small. Furniture arrangement is really difficult.
I am also disappointed with the so called wet kitchen being so tiny. Not sure what to do with it. There’s also an ugly looking pvc pipe that runs down from the ceiling to the floor. I don’t think it can be shifted. This really restricts a lot of things that we can do with the wet kitchen area. And, I just have to mention about the foyer. It just takes up too much space and is making the kitchen & dining area small. The front wall where the main door is will have to be torn down and moved outwards. Lots of hacking to do. Lots of $$$ needed.
However, I am pleasantly surprised with the quality of the walls of my unit. Good workmanship, could not find any defect on the walls !. Happy with the location of my corner unit. Nice seaview. It has lots of privacy unlike the units close to the lifts.
Just been told they got the OC yesterday. Can’t wait to start renovation and move in ASAP … but have to sort out the ID work first which is now quite challenging due to the factors mentioned earlier.
young..are you for real????...mate ,there is no need to be so insensitive...others have problems with their units..please do respect them. well done with your unit and i wish you you all the best.take it easy mate.
Hi. Can someone post photos of the unit? Would like to see the photos to understand some of the comments made....
Can someone post photos of your unit over here for us to see?
Hi Hairy,
which floor of your unit if you do not mind to tell.Nice sea view means unblocked sea view from your balcony or masterbedroom"s balcony?
Mine is above 20th floor but still worry the rooftop of Waterfront might obstruct partial of the seaview from my balcony.Still have not received the letter from Bolton for defects checking and key collection.
which floor of your unit if you do not mind to tell.Nice sea view means unblocked sea view from your balcony or masterbedroom"s balcony?
Mine is above 20th floor but still worry the rooftop of Waterfront might obstruct partial of the seaview from my balcony.Still have not received the letter from Bolton for defects checking and key collection.
mr chong- i have been up to the 25th floor- waterfront is way below surin...its unlikely the rooftop of waterfront will block your view-i very much doubt it.
Sounds good, thanks Mr.Track.
Hi Chong,
If your unit is facing the sea, don't worry about anybody blocking your view from your balcony/master bedroom even at the lower floors. There's no high rise right in front of the block.
Hi Chong,
no need to wait for bolton to call you. Most likely your bank has released all the payments to Bolton. So just call them to pay your own outstanding misc charges then arrange for inspection. Too many owners for bolton to follow up.
okay..okay,thanks Maverick and Hairy.Will ask my wife to do it on my behalf because i stay in oversea most of the time.Hopefully can see you guys one day and we can go for "eat kopi"
Hi MMM -can share your unit photo?
I inspect my hillview yesterday, extremely satisfied with the building and surrounding. Looking forward to stay there and meet all of you.
If you guy have any idea to deal with the ID, please share
Yes I have already post on my FB.My FB email is esheng88@yahoo.com.
Hi Alan Lulu I'm a ID and I will using my unit as a showroom and I will base at Surin for this few year.
All furniture and kitchen is make from our own factory .
Email me if you all need any help at esheng88@yahoo.com
Hairy,
Did the staff of Bolton tell u on 23 Feb that OC had been obtained?
AL just ask them yesterday but black and white is not received yet.
Hi MMM,
When will your unit be ready as a show house?
I will be inspecting my unit next month.
I estimate to take 45days to complete it after OC
Also,does anyone know the size of masterbedroom,2nd and 3rd bedroom?
what is the size of floor tile ,big or small?thanks.
Dear purchaser, do you agree?
"With the handing over of the keys to its purchasers of Surin Tower B — Bolton's maiden development in Penang — the company received excellent reviews by its purchasers, while Cascadia owners will receive their keys later next month, almost 17 months ahead of schedule"
http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-a-views/9496-bolton-pre-tax-profit-up-316.html
just finished inspection of our unit...
wow, can't complain about the ID at the gnd floor lobby and the rooftop pool area...awesome!...very nice environment with soooooo many spots to chill out...and even the lifts are IDed!!..all the walkways and corridors are with tiles..
only turn OFF is the actual size of our unit..turned out so much smaller than what was expected or imagined..agree that there's gonna be quite some wall hacking to do.. no missing windows as encountered by some tho...
some imperfections here n there but overall it's good..
Hi,
Saw few comments on small rooms' sizes. Are the sizes matched with the layout diagram dimension?
Received letter from Bolton informing that any reno especially on foyer needs the owner to get council approval.....any comments? I think can just ignore right esp since OC has been issued. Can or will Bolton staff stop us on site?
Hi Chucky,
You have to place refundable renovation deposits of i think around 3.8K. You need to submit your renovation plan to the mgmt office for approval. But if you hack walls on the open foyer, I'm very sure mgmt will forfeit your deposit. For the strata title approval, there is surely a heightened risk with our new CAT gov. Doubt we will get approval from council. Pls share the good news if there is any positive breakthrough.
Any coments on kitchen walls and foyers
Room very small while hall and foyer very big. Size kinda out of proportion. Workmanship very bad alot of quality issues even before moving in.
Another thing i notice is the small roof over common area crack at the corner and the cement fell off. Very large crack can be notice from picture taken far away. Will post the picture later.
WHen entering my unit, the floor in front of the lif, theres a pool of water i wonder if there a leakage somewhere or wat.
I inspected my unit as well at Block B, Type C. Overall, i am quite satisfied with surin especially the ID, Flooring and lift design. It is awesome. The unit is decent size. The only complaint is the workmanship for bedroom and toilet door. I have requested to replace it.
I have to apologize to Surin. Seems like the picture is not a crack but a tree. However the roof is a little dirty.
With that Im impress with the ID but workmanship is a little bad. Maybe its because they are rushing to complete the unit so they dont have to pay more fines to purchasers.
i have inspected my 1307 persf unit. Overall ok minor defect. The master room is a little bit small but good seaview direct from the room .
Awesome ID at lobby , rooftop pool area & gym + walking track besides the fencing . Feel Resort Lifestyle here :-)
Yes , agreed with BL . Everyday shiny resort lifestyles with its location at Tanjung Bungah sure make Surin attract more buyer or tenant and expatriates .
Cheer ........... No regret invest in Surin although initially some of fren -ve into this hillside project
inspected my unit Type B. expected small room size but surprisingly they look OK to me. found 3 defects so far which can be rectified easily. Nice view on the swimming pool and the sea. 1 thing i dont like is the PVC Trunking at the balcony. Other than that, not bad as Surin for me is just a medium-end condo. Definitely cannot compare to high-end projects like Infinity, Harmony Residence, Paragon, etc.
I just collected the Late delivery Payment from Bolton. They paid exactly as per S & P (10% pa) without excuses. Thanks Bolton for the fast payment. Enough for renovation jobs.
KK, may I know how much you got from Bolton for the late delivery payment? I think it is not enough for renovation as one of the Penang Designer told me that 50K is a very small amount to do renovation. Walau!!!
Fion 50K can do alot of thing call me if you need any help.
Fion, i signed S & P on 18th April 2008 and VP on 22 Feb 2012. Therefore i got 10/12 X 10% X purchase price. For me, it is more than enough to have a simple renovation.
MMM, thanks and I will call you if I need any help from you :)
KK, Congratulation !! Its good to have a helpful neighbour like you all, cheers
Can you Bolton did this nonsense!They allocated my parking bays back to back. It means if I parked my car 1st then my husband got to park at my back. So I can't move my car if I wanted go out 1st the next day!
Bolton is a totally unreliable developer!
Did Bolton charge the same price for back to back parking lots? Usually the price is cheaper if comparing with normal parking lot, and should make known to buyers during booking or in SPA?
Do you all know why we facing a lot of problem at Surin ?
As I know is because of the EX GM din do his job well so after the project completed all the problem will automatically appear.
He is fired by Bolton last year,and he is also one of the owner.
Do you all know who is he??
shocking...which units are being given side-by-side car park and which are not? Hows the allocation plays about?
I don't know how many units are given this stupid back to back car parks. When we signed the S & P, Bolton promised to provide 2 parking bays & we just found out when we collected the keys from Bolton. (Car Park allocation was not included in our S & P). what can we do now? I cant imagine to move in & move out our cars everytime we go out. They have plenty of car parks at the other floor & u know what, these are for rent only. It means for Bolton to make $$!
I am the purchaser of block A and equally worry about the car park allocation. A friend of mine called up the office and was told that the comunication on the car park allocation (both back to back and side-by-side) already been done during the sales period. But apparently both my friend and myself did not get this information at all, this is not something which should be missed out by a genuine buyer. Furthermore for those purchase through agents, they are trying to push the responsiblity to them(HB, NB, PT etc) for not being communicating this.
i will follow up again but things don't seem to be that simple after-all.
surinpenang, what has the ex GM got to do with all this. I thought the architect are the one who designed it and Bolton director approved the plan.
Zing...what level are your unit? This back to back car park cannot be accept. We must really make noise on this matter.
I am a 3rd flr owner and also got the back to back. Apparently 30% of the parking is back to back.
I wrote in officially to complain and this is the response...
Thank you for your email.
We have taken note on the issue raised by your goodself and immediately launched an investigation upon receipt of your email.
Kindly be informed that the car parking bays at Surin condominium are common areas as per stated in the Sale and Purchase Agreement (SPA). It was also stated in the Second Schedule of SPA and House Rules that the said unit has been allocated with 2 car parking bays for the right of use by way of an allocation system deemed appropriate by the Developer/Management and it is solely at the discretion of the Developer/Management.
Please be also informed that any decision for relocation can only be done once the Joint Management Body or Management Corporation is formed and such decision must be tabled and agreed upon by majority owners during an Annual General Meeting (AGM) or Extraordinary General Meeting (EGM).
As such, we regret to inform you that we are unable to accede to your request on the relocation at the moment.
We hope the above clarifies. Should you need any further clarification, please do not hesitate to call us (Ms. Tee, Halima, Alicia) at 03-7844 6866. Thank you for your kind understanding.
So this means that we have to wait for things to happen one at a time. I have inspected my unit and just some minor defects. Waiting for them to repair. OC has also been received and once we agree to their repair work they will issue the auto gate cards for us to use.
Bolton has also told me that they can help to provide us the drawing for the change/move of wall to increase the internal space but we will have to submit and get approval from MPPP ourselves. I will probably pursue this course and get approval as do not want to affect strata approval. Any ID willing to do this for us if they do the design and reno?
I am also not happy with the carpark but so far Bolton has been reasonably responsive and have always replied my emails. To be frank their late payment was surprisingly quick. Some other Penang developers can be quite bad in paying back. So other than the carpark problem which hopefully we can resolve once the joint management committe is formed the rest like design, lobby, workmanship, professionalism etc I give good marks. I definately feel it is a good buy, no regrets. Hope to see some of my other neighbours there too. sorry for long post.
Back to back car park is common now in Penang. However the allocation must be fair and transparent.
Probably the allocation of carpark is based on unit price. Lower/cheaper units will get the b2b carpark.
Chucky>> If they already provide us the plan of wall extension, why do u still need ID? Unless u plan to use a different extension design.
OC already obtained? I didnt get letter from Bolton
frogprince,
If I happened to know this back to back car park allocation then I wouldn't be so angry and I don't mind to invest more to buy an unit that provided me side by side car park. But I feel like cheated by Bolton =(
Common in Penang? mind to share which project?
chucky,
It means we can't do anything right now. ahhhh....I still can't accept & feel so malu to tell ppl that I have this back to back car park allocation when ppl asked me "hey, u collected ur keys d right? hows ur apartment?"
Ya, they answered us quick cuz I think they have foreseen this question, standard letters have been prepared on their desks.
All,
One more question, since Surin has obtained the OC and we are paying the maintenance now, when can we get our access cards? I don't feel good to pay loan every mth bt can't enter my own unit after the management office is closed.
I know I have complaint alot. But mainly cuz I am very frustrated with the car park allocation.
ahhhhhh.....
Zing....I sympathize but what to do. Look on the bright side lo. The design looks better than i had hoped. The overall feel is quite upscale. Late payment is quick no need to beg and in time for reno.
On the card. 1st step is to insopect and submit report for defects. Wait 4 weeks then can reinspect. If all is ok then sign agreed defect clearance form and then collect the cards.
On the plan and ID, I was hoping that the ID guys know how to submit and get approval from the council.
I need some advice from sifus.
Surin Management Office is going to charge us RM50 for each touch & go and access card as deposit.Total amount is RM250. Doest it make sense? My friend bought her bayswater but IJM didnt take a cent from them for the 1st 6 access cards.
received the late penalty $$$. no question asked, no hassle, just sign and take the cheque. this will surely helps to start the renovation. looking at the foyer, the extension will give me an additional 150sqft, practically another room. else the space will be a waste. OC obtained and i am waiting for the defects to be rectified.
The charges of access cards does NOT make sense ..it should be FOC cos this is part of the key
I believe many of buyers will complaint on this issue
I believe most of the buyer will prefer to stay at Surin rather than dispose off the units
Very high occupancy rate compare to others project in penang island
Hi Zing,
I went to strait quay convention centre yesterday and get to know Latitude at mount erskine also provide back to back car parks
I think is quite common nowadays
There will be no rubbish collection centre in block b. according to surin , the rubbish bin will be located in block c.
Imagine carrying our garbage down the lift and walking to block c every nite .
Coastal towers has a collection centre on every floor.
Hi all, I pass through Surin last night around 8 plus. I notice that all the lights on the corridor is not turn on and only partial lights in the car park are lid up. We are paying the maintenance from January until April this year and how come they are not switching all the lights on the corridor of every floor? Are we not going to pay in the month of May? since they have save the electric bill for the pass 4 months.
BM guy: are you joking? the rubbish bin is located in block c? then why are paying so much for house cleaning as stated in the S&P? need so many worker for what? to sit at the lobby enjoy the view?
BM Guy,
Tower B is completed and Tower A is being built. R u sure there is a Block C for rubbish?
Block C is the block for the car park etc. Regarding the rubbish to be disposed off it comes from the Bolton office. I still have not received my cheque, Do I need to contact them regarding this matter?
For the cheque, i went to their office at fettes park and collect. I did not receive any letter too. I have cashed the cheque and now waiting to get the access cards. So far so good.
Bolton informed me through email and follow up with a call to collect my LAD cheque.
I have called (ya, again)Surin Management Office this afternoon and the PIC said the access cards are ready. So we can go collect the acrds during their office hour.
Hi all may I know who can accept their unit without extension at the main foyer?
In the " internal access card application form" it states
"owners may apply for ADDITIONAL access card at a fee of rm 50.00......."
Does that mean that we will be given one card free and have to pay for the rest?
Only one card foc is ridiculous!!
(1) All 6 access card are FREE ! They need Deposit for each card .This is a good practice to ensure the future cost (lost / spoil card etc ) be minimized !
(2) Wasted OUR fund if they switch on all the coridor light in this vacnt ocupancy period .
hi guys,
what about garbage disposal?
any clarification from bolton office?
I heard that for the 1.3k sqf layout, unit 1 and 8 is different. The rooms in unit 8 are a little bigger while the dry area in unit 1 is bigger and rooms a lil smaller compared to unit 8. Can anyone confirm on this?
Hi Folks. Just wanted to get some information about this project. How long was the delay from S&P to OC? I know that the developer has being settling the late delivery charges but was curious the length of time. I did NOT purchase this project....
Hi AI - it depends on when the S&P was executed. Example for me, my S&P was completed on Apr 2008. Based on S&P, the condo should be ready by Apr 2011. Since VP was on Feb 2012, Bolton thus paid me 10 months of Late Delivery (around 8.5% of the Purchase price).
To BL:
DOesnt make sense to pay deposit for something that is FREE.
If you have to pay a deposit then when can you get back your deposit? Purchaser will be owning their uunit until they die.
Just sayin..
You are so right, Hybrid.
So FUNNY to ask us to pay DEPOSIT but the cards are FOC.
It means that when we buy a TV set, it comes with a remote control. Remote control is FOC, but you have to pay deposit to get the remote control.
Bolton thinks we are stupid to katok. Well, they are so smart, u wan to enter your house, then u have to pay! They know we cannot do anything.
One scam after another. What else would they think off next? FOC is Free Of Charge and which part of it do they not understand?
Just do the math, for each unit they will be accepting an average of RM250 as i do not know how many access/touch and go cards are allocated to the Penthouse owners. We are looking at a sum of RM97,500 as deposits.
The best part is that for the replacement of any loss cards, you are being charged RM100. Thus what is the use of the deposit then? To keep and play masak masak?
As Zing's example of a TV, the remote control comes with the purchase and no deposit is asked for it but when it is spoilt the logical thing to do is to purchase a new one. You dont feel cheated as no deposit was given earlier. This is called FOC my fellow neighbours.
deposit and charges are different. deposit is something you can take back when you return the card but charges will just gone like that.
The purpose of deposit I reckon is to "remind" the people must take care the card.
pls correct me if I am wrong. thanks.