Centrio Avenue

Centrio Avenue is a low-medium cost apartment located at Jalan Bukit Gambier, Gelugor, Penang. Centrio Avenue consists of two 31-storey apartment blocks with a total of 780 units. Each apartment unit has three bedrooms and built-up area of 650 sq.ft.

Property Project : Centrio Avenue
Location : Gelugor, Penang
Property Type : Apartment
No. of Blocks : 2
No. of Storey : 31
Total Units : 780
Built-up Area : 650 sq.ft.
Developer : Nuwata Sdn Bhd (Boon Siew Group)

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March 18, 2014 at 11:41 AMUnknown: summer lee, any idea when? any news?
April 29, 2014 at 4:14 PMUnknown: Apa cerita projek ni skrg
June 3, 2014 at 1:11 AMAnonymous: I think not anyone call sell those units within 10ys...as under LMC title...Hard to get 1unit..too bad..
June 10, 2014 at 10:37 PMAnonymous: Anyone know that when can we get the key? has been waiting for quite some time.
August 7, 2014 at 3:07 PMAnonymous: After 10 years, only can sell to those who apply LMC from goverment. Means the house price wont increase alot after 10 years.
September 25, 2014 at 11:38 AMstupid killer: any news abt phase 2? any contact number i can call to ask?
October 15, 2014 at 7:29 PMAnonymous: Anyone received their letter to collect key???
October 16, 2014 at 11:21 AMvivian: Like no news and don't know the OC can obtained? Since want 3 years already & got any problem?
October 21, 2014 at 9:03 PMAnonymous: already received letter inform to collect keys soon..
October 22, 2014 at 9:36 AMAnonymous: Hi, may I know when u have receive the letter? this is for tower A or tower B?
October 23, 2014 at 11:45 AMAnonymous: tower A only
October 24, 2014 at 9:17 PMAnonymous: yes..for tower A..
October 30, 2014 at 9:45 AMAnonymous: my unit is tower 1.The renovation is unworthy RM30K++ !
October 30, 2014 at 12:37 PMvivian: Tower 1 renovation y said unworth? is it very terrible?
October 30, 2014 at 9:02 PMAnonymous: 四个sliding windows之外, solid wood main door和地砖(1.5"×1.5" 不是光滑的)便宜货。厨房的砖是半天吊，除非你的壁橱做到上面。廉价屋是没钱人买的，可是装修费却....
October 30, 2014 at 9:09 PMAnonymous: 可是廉价屋难求,没办法。只有感恩。
October 31, 2014 at 9:32 AMAnonymous: 有壁橱和冰箱吗？
October 31, 2014 at 4:25 PMAnonymous: 没有，你是那个tower?
November 1, 2014 at 10:37 AMAnonymous: 我是 tower B 的
November 3, 2014 at 1:53 PMAnonymous: when will obtained OC for tower B
November 4, 2014 at 8:16 PMAnonymous: 算了吧!没过150K槟城那里找?再说没有装修
是没有carpark的
November 5, 2014 at 1:15 PMAnonymous: Where can i check weather tower B OC ？
Cos i have to pay late interest charges to BSG if the OC still cannot obtain. My bank loan agreement is need OC obtain only will release money to BSG. But in SNP, BSG need to collect payment within 3 mth upon the SNP date. 10% going to be charge to buyer, means have to pay around RM 1500 late interest charges to BSG....
November 5, 2014 at 10:01 PMAnonymous: Hi, May i know who had paid the late charges about rm 304 for those got the letter already?
November 5, 2014 at 11:14 PMAnonymous: It is not fair to charge us, homebuyer for the late charges. We should setup a facebook page for all homebuyers to voice our dissatisfaction. I'm charge RM 1100 for the late charges and I'm sure we will get chop by the in-house contractor too
November 6, 2014 at 10:48 AMAnonymous: Just imaging, if Tower B OC only can get next year, RM 1500 per mth need to pay to BSG, is it fair to us? OC cannot obtain is not our problem, but we have to pay the late payment charges.
November 6, 2014 at 10:54 PMMr Goh: My unit give this contractor do Mr Lim 0174334840. if interested can contact he.
Price ok , he already start reno more than 2 unit in CAA. Also have show unit under renovation.

Good Luck to all and happy stay in CAA
November 7, 2014 at 11:02 AMAnonymous: Any news of Tower B OC can be obtain?
Should we all bought Tower B owner have meeting and discuss of this issue?
November 7, 2014 at 12:55 PMAnonymous: Why some people said 72,500 includes car park, and 115,000 covered renovation ?
November 7, 2014 at 3:06 PMAnonymous: When is the OC officially obtained for Tower A? Why OC cannot be issued together for Tower B?
November 7, 2014 at 9:12 PMAnonymous: The reason given by them is not yet complete sold out all unit.
Next year GST is coming, all renovation and furniture will effected.
What we should do is go to Komtar (Perumahan department) look for person in charge give us the answer, how to do?
Late interest kena charge, GST is coming??????
November 9, 2014 at 9:16 AMAnonymous: The units is it sold out it not regarding to the OC obtain
November 9, 2014 at 2:44 PMAnonymous: But the reason given by them... Funny right?
November 9, 2014 at 3:16 PMAnonymous: checked with BSG this project's person in charge, Miss JOIS, Ol2-498O3OO, she told me that all unit has been sold out, althought recently I just received letter from Perumahan, anyone facing this issue as well?
November 10, 2014 at 10:55 AMAnonymous: I think we should check with government right, or else the late payment charge sure will occur upon we collect the key..
Any one here can get a contact to check with KOMTAR? just wanna to check why Tower A get OC, and Tower B still not yet
November 10, 2014 at 10:56 AMAnonymous: it really unfair to Tower B buyer, OC cannot obtain, but Tower B buyer need to pay late payment charges.
November 10, 2014 at 6:12 PMAnonymous: Komtar 53 floor
04-6505138
I call these number every month, but they said very soon very soon very soon........
Why not we all Tower B buyer come out to meet and discuss.
November 10, 2014 at 8:32 PMAnonymous: We should firm up the team to voice up regarding this issue ....have to find out a way to fight for this issue. Or else we have to pay the late payment charges to BSG. Per month about rm1500 , it higher than bank interest.....how r we these poor people pay for this?
November 10, 2014 at 8:52 PMAnonymous: A bit confuse here. I thought if the developer will compensate the buyer if they are late on OC/VP but this case the other way round.
November 10, 2014 at 9:57 PMAnonymous: Agreed with you, how to firm up the team and gather all the buyer?
November 10, 2014 at 11:53 PMAnonymous: this is what I knew from developer. The girl told me to chase gov not developer. She said the building is ready, but gov still don't want to release the OC. For us if oc release late, we need to pay late payment charges to developer after 3mth SNP date
November 11, 2014 at 9:23 AMAnonymous: This is so odd. Why are purchasers penalised for late payment charges when the developer is supposed to compensate purchasers with LAD of 10% p.a. after 36 months from S&P date? Can someone provide further info?
November 11, 2014 at 10:00 AMAnonymous: Should ask a lawyer instead.
November 11, 2014 at 10:05 AMAnonymous: I checked with lawyer firm just now, the girl told me, the Tower 2 OC is depend to the developer to chase, not from our buyer,
For what i concern now is, my charges is going to start next mth. So sad that nobody can help on this issue and we have to pay for the charges when collect the key.
Is anybody same situation with me?
November 11, 2014 at 11:19 AMAnonymous: Just call to 53 floor and BSG person incharge also no deadline for me when OC can be obtain. To my opinion don't ask anything from them anymore, they wont give any promise to us.
We should firm up the team to voice up regarding this issue ....have to find out a way to fight for this issue. Or else we have to pay the late payment charges to BSG.
November 11, 2014 at 11:37 AMAnonymous: A friend told me to find liek " society " either DAP or MCA to fight against this issue... and must have reporter
November 11, 2014 at 11:50 AMAnonymous: DAP is incharge off this project, is that work?
I always call to 53 floor looking for YB Jadeep Singh assistant Daniel Gooi.
Always said very soon very soon very soon...
November 11, 2014 at 11:59 AMAnonymous: they just said, but we are the one who need pay late payment charges, is they going to pay the late charges for us? finally we have to pay it right.. :(
If DAP is not going to help, the we go for MCA...
November 11, 2014 at 12:45 PMAnonymous: They got mention the reason why the OC still cannot release?
November 11, 2014 at 8:32 PMAnonymous: Recently (end of October 2014) I went to YB Jagdeep Singh's Office (because BSG told me that is YB Jagdeep in charge in this project) at Jalan Dato Keramat and served by one of the malay staff. He is quite friendly and help. He make a phone call (dont to who) and then told me that the council need to sell the balance of the units and then only could approve the OC for Tower B.

Last year end (2013), newspaper got the news saying that got some buyers complaint about the high purchase price. I asking how they solve the issue. The answers that I received was "Ia sudah settle... sudah settle".

OMG... which mean, the said complainer either accept the price or certain floor(s) which counter offer by the developer.

Those answer (either from developer or council), they seems like pushing the ball to each other and keep asking the buyers to chase the other for the update / OC.

So, if you guys wanna make it fast, perhaps should look for the opposition (BN - MIC , MCA or UMNO - in case Pg leading by PR).

We just hope that relevant parties can make the things smooth, and not to make it complicated or keep on delaying it.

This is without prejudice to any parties and politics.

From Wednesday
November 12, 2014 at 2:35 PMAnonymous: Wednesday, I faced the same issue you mention above.
They told me still got over hundred unit needs to sell out only can issue the OC.
How come LMC project so difficult to sell?
November 12, 2014 at 4:13 PMAnonymous: But BSG said it not regarding the baki unit problem....BSG told me, building is ready, only the government dont want to release the OC.
Another thing, BSG told me, almost all unit sold out, i feel the only conside " not sold ou " is mean, those buyer who cannot get the loan yet...
But it not a matter regarding to the OC right, even the unit not yet sold out, if everything ok, OC should can be release.
Now nobody can honor to us, why the OC cannot release...is developer problem or government problem...
November 12, 2014 at 4:39 PMAnonymous: I personally feel that both of them are pushing the ball to each other.
At the end the big problem become to our buyer.
We need opposition party to help us.
November 12, 2014 at 6:03 PMAnonymous: BSG and Council... we can trust who?

---> If due lack of buyers for Tower B
In my opinions, perhaps the current council is choose the listing (applicants) from couple years ago, where those applicants already disqualify to buy the LMC house, due to salary is higher, get another house because can't wait and so on...
some at their 40s' and hardly to get 90% loan (probably 120K), then they will disqualify and council re-select new applicants again...
OMG, this may take lot of times for the process...

In this point, council should choose the latest years' applicants, because they should be still in the qualify range to buy it...

---> If due to developer
Developer keep saying the building is ready, but how many of us will know that when the Fire's system, water tanks, staircase etc are not fulfill the requirement by the Bomba, the OC will be delay too !!!
hence.. it may cause the lateness.

so... anyone of you guys know about this? We all saw the buildings at Bukit Gambir, but how many of us know whether the developer really got follow all the rules etc?

I hereby admitted that, I have no idea. But i know it will caused delay when developer never fulfill the requirement.

Besides, Jois got asked me go to meet the PIC at Komtar Level 20 (i forgot the actual level - perumahan), the PIC told me that OC is not issue by them...
after that we did chit-chat for awhile...
and the PIC did said "Why developer sold at the price of 130k-170k? whereas the approved selling price is at 72K plus additional carpark (with extra cost).
who approve the upgrading (70k)?
calculation 70K (house price) + 20k (carpark) = 90k
the selling price for Tower B about 170k, which means about 70K for upgrading??

be frank, the upgrading price really can use it to buy a second LMC house already.
but due to the location, i accepted it.... because if not, we wont know when will be so "lucky" to get a second offer from the council for LMC... am i right?

some may be lucky because will get LMC within 1 years from the application date, but some wait more than 5 years also get nothing.

what a sad issue when facing this BSG and council....
the pities party is us, the buyers / borrowers.
got house merely like no house, need to pay loan... no place to complaint...

I'm not really involve in politics. but in this case, we should find the opposition party to help.... before election, all "faces of candidates will show up" and ask us to vote them...
once they get the power, wanna meet their assistant also will be an issue.

that is why today is raining's Wednesday...

from Wednesday ;(
November 12, 2014 at 9:46 PMAnonymous: Wednesday, i have the same reason why buy this "flat", If government got concern regarding the selling price, they should take action after the "first complaint" but till now, almost a year, but this issue still not yet settle, and just keep delay the OC.
I m the Tower B buyer, the one who suffer from this case also, who can help us? I really no way to solve this, if the OC keep delay, i really dont know where to get the money to pay the charge, if delay for 1 year, 1 year later, where can i get such huge of money to pay the late charge.
Now feel hopeless....
from A :(
November 12, 2014 at 9:55 PMAnonymous: When we go to selec the unit, BSG promised that can get the OC around Jan 2014, but because the OC keep delay, now bank only will release the payment to BSG after OC obtain.
In SNP, if buyer fail to pay the amount which request from BSG in 3 mths after SNP date, buyer will need to pay the late payment charge, according to the BSG Jois, 10% per year of our purchase price, the charges is higher than our bank interest.
I just want to ask, is anybody can help on this? I m the poor guy only can buy the LMC, now have to pay the late payment charge to BSG just because which BSG or Gov delay the OC...it not fair to me...
November 12, 2014 at 11:11 PMAnonymous: Hi "A",
Likewise, I'm from Tower B too. Last year Dec when met BSG, they said can get OC soon. latest by March 2014. I follow up until now and get nothing (same answer from BSG).

Perhaps you can ask for waiver, as I know got Tower A's ppl doing the same too.

If i not mistaken, developer reserve the right to pass the keys to the owner within the 3 years duration, upon signing the S&P agreement. Which means within these 3 years, OC delay or whatever thing happen, borrowers cant chase developer for the keys.
So, if signed S&P on 2014, means need to wait until 2017 only can chase for the keys and ask for compensation.
In this case, Tower A signed S&P @ 2012, means this year (2014) is the third years.

Dear Anonymous (time 955pm)
As the buyers for Centrio Avenue, we all should know that there is no point to keep on chasing Developer and Council, because I believe that for those did the same, will merely get the same answers. Since I personally always contact BSG and council, and the answers I received almost same with the rest.

Therefore, anyone of you know the opposition YB who can help?
At least raise the issue at DUN....
Sometimes i feel that unfair to those who already signed S&P, the house is there... and council said need to sold all the units first (and the only approve the OC)???

Hello, they (council and developer) can delay it, because one of them earn money, and another one, just do their works... Buyers are the one who suffering the most.

For those condo and luxury house, they will get OC once the developers completed it...
but Centrio Avenue, 1 years already.... If pregnant, the baby also 3 months old d (9 months pregnant + 3 months after delivery).
Will it be different scenario between LMC and luxury condo?
satu dapat OC cepat... satu kena tunggu 1 tahun lebih +++ late interest??

In this LMC house, we learn that poor people and rich people having different service from them 1....

From Wednesday
November 13, 2014 at 9:02 AMAnonymous: Hi Wednesday,

I agreed with you, those " xxx " wont care about our poor people, so they can just keep quite and push the ball here and there, and we have to bare the late payment charges.

OC cannot approve is not our problem, but we have to bare the "responsibility" so have to pay " late charge penalties " to developer.
If 3 year delay for the OC, means RM1500 x 36 mth =RM54000, where can i get the big amount case to pay for it????

Is there any one also suffer from this issue? Please voice up.
November 13, 2014 at 6:30 PMAnonymous: Dear Anonymous (at 9:02 AM),

Your penalty charges is RM1,500 per month? Or per year?

I personally feel that NO POINT for us (especially buyer of Tower B) to keep chasing developer and council. As i stated above, we will get the same answers at the end too.
Developer either waive the penalty (full or partially) only.

If really wanna get a solution, we should look for opposition to expedite it...

From Wednesday ~~~
November 13, 2014 at 7:34 PMAnonymous: Developer told me, it 10% per year, if loan amount is RM 150,000, means RM150000 x 10% / 365 = Per day RM41.10
November 13, 2014 at 8:25 PMAnonymous: Dear Anonymous (at 7:34 PM)

Oups..... this better than rob. Have you contact developer and ask for waiver?
Developer receive the first payment late, and borrowers need to bear it.

The said RM1500 is base on the first late payment by the bank to developer.
which mean RM1500 / RM41.10 = around 36 days late

Have you check with the lawyer, who cause the late payment?
is it due to lawyer's fault for late advice for the release?

If anyone really have intention to get OC fast, must tk different method already...

From Wednesday ~~
November 14, 2014 at 10:13 AMAnonymous: nobody cause the late payment, only is the term n condition for snp and loan agreement got conflict..
after SNP, within 3 mth, I have to pay the amount request from developer or else will cause penalty by developer,
But, public bank only wanna to release payment to developer upon OC release...
So...I also dont know what can i do
November 14, 2014 at 5:42 PMAnonymous: Hi Anonymous (10:13 AM)

Sorry to hear that... You should discuss with lawyer for further advice.
Since nobody will will know when Bomba will support the approve of the OC too.

Let says Bomba already support the OC, and council delay it... that means council indirectly cause borrowers being penalize for the late charges.

After all, perhaps we should look for other YB's assistance (the most go to the opposition), like Anonymous (November 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM) said....

from Wednesday ~~
November 14, 2014 at 6:11 PMAnonymous: Why they can't give us an real answer why the OC cannot release ?
November 15, 2014 at 1:13 AMAnonymous: What is the problem now?? Why cant we get the OC yet??
November 15, 2014 at 1:25 AMAnonymous: Hi Anyonymous (611pm)

We all know that the building is completed (except minor works). If you have contacted developer and council, the answers should be 80% similar with other:

1) BSG : waiting for council to issue OC
2) Council : developer tak ada submit complete documents kepada kita
3) answer from YB's service center : hendak complete kesemua unit terlebih dahulu

So, we shall listen to whom? Keep on waiting or probably we should look for the opposition for Bukit Gambir's area. Anyone know who is the person (YB) and the service center?
"Wednesday", do u know?

Be franks, after check this website, and just now i passed by Relau area.
The new constructed building, Golden Triangle (if i not wrong), already has shop operating at there. Last two months they are just "TAR" the road only. Now sudah ada OC.... Centrio Avenue, already 1 year plus OC pun tak ada (not iphone 6 plus, and iphone 6 also start sell in Malaysia already),

If Tower B's buyers wanna get keys faster, must take action. Always comment here and no action, what for !!???

From Dennis Ma
November 15, 2014 at 1:31 AMAnonymous: To Dennis Ma,

What is your suggestion?? They are just pushing everything away. What action can we take now ??
November 15, 2014 at 3:21 PMAnonymous: I will look for opposition party for their advice. Since can't get any reliable answer from current parties.

Hope got other buyers will join me to ask too.

Dennis
November 16, 2014 at 8:11 PMAnonymous: Hi Dennis,

I'm actually also looking for opposition to ask further. want to join and go together ?

Wednesday ~~
November 17, 2014 at 6:32 PMAnonymous: Bukit Gambir is fall under which constitution / area ?
Dun Batu Uban (YB Dr. Yajabalan, Phone 04-6562605, email : drjayabalan@gmail.com)

or ....?

I can't find any Gerakan's service center except its HQ at Macalister Road. Tel 042280228, email editorial@gerakan4u.com

I have email to Gerakan for queries. If The other buyers from Tower B wish to know the progress or get keys faster, should ask the opposition for the update.

From Wednesday ~~
November 18, 2014 at 4:04 PMAnonymous: I am a buyer of Tower "A", as 21 Oct 2014 received letter inform to collect keys is that true??? But, I until today still not received any letter inform to collect keys...anyone can know what is going on???
November 18, 2014 at 5:27 PMAnonymous: Hi Anonymous (4:04pm)

yes, one of my friend from Tower A did get the keys. We did visit his unit together on last weekend. Overall the house is ok, but for those got cook, better reno the kitchen....

From Wednesday ~~
November 20, 2014 at 11:33 AMAnonymous: Yesterday I call again to Komtar 53 floors Perumahan department, the answer from them said Tower B OC very soon very soon very soon but don't know how soon!!!!!!!!!!!
hai......
November 20, 2014 at 1:53 PMAnonymous: Developer belum kasi cukup duit, that is why OC cannot out....
Abo why the OC slow?
if project 500k above, OC cepat cepat dapat... because developer know the buyers are rich. This LMC, for normal ppl, developer won't care 1....
November 20, 2014 at 4:46 PMAnonymous: I have contacted Gerakan, they said will look into this matter. But from what the ppl said, they seems like do not want to involve. Indirectly ask me go find back PR's YB.

With such solution, already prove that how efficiency they are.
All politicians Beh Ki 1.
November 21, 2014 at 12:32 PMAnonymous: Look like nobody want to help us then how?
November 21, 2014 at 2:34 PMAnonymous: I went to Centrio Avenue's level 5, the sub-contractor is covering the Tower B's lift area and doing something at there.
Which means Tower B still under progress.

Direct contact LGE and ask him. He always said wanna help Penangite, then ask him help us in this matter.
November 21, 2014 at 2:47 PMAnonymous: Post at CM LGE's FB and Twitter, he cannot escape from NOT answer it. Raise this to public awareness and see how effective Pg Gov will help the poor people to get house.

If like this you all also don't dare to do, then please stop ask WHY cant get OC? WHO cause delay and so on.

FB : https://www.facebook.com/cmlimguaneng

Twitter : https://twitter.com/cmlimguaneng

People always complain, and wait for other to do the job.
Now, use your computer, smartphone or tablet, send a message at LGE's FB and Twitter !!!
November 25, 2014 at 3:13 PMvivian: is the unit there is under commercial title or residential title? because below got shop lot. Thanks for replying me here
November 26, 2014 at 11:07 PMAnonymous: The reason why government did not issue was due to complaints by some who did not want the reno pkg. In fact, the reno pkg was really unfair. The car park lot is $28K++. And BSG also not truthful; kept telling no many units left but how come so many units not sold yet??
November 28, 2014 at 4:51 PMAnonymous: No matter how many balance units are sold and left, council should give the CCC once the building is completed.

Although the selling price is higher than the exact price, but the location (convenience to all place - Pg Bridge, Town, Gurney, Bayan Lepas, Air Itam) and the facilities is better than normal LMC (such as Macallum)

I heard said now the selling price for Centrio Avenue is above 300k.
If you are an investor, this is worth than LMC !!!
November 28, 2014 at 5:01 PMAnonymous: Summer Lee, contact the lawyer for clarification.
Please update here later. TQ
November 28, 2014 at 5:12 PMAnonymous: There is a showroom under renovating at Tower 1-7-11. Will be done by middle Dec.
Renovation cost = 80,000 (should be exclude the furniture)

Downstair's Wayne renovation always asking my wife to hack wall.
I have check with the management, we can get own outsources contractor.
If you guys have selfknown ppl, that is better than find Wayne.
November 28, 2014 at 5:43 PMAnonymous: Yeah, Wayne's staff also keep asked me hack wall too !!!
This is sucks service from the reno company !!!!
Their cupboard hard to fit the room with queensbed size.
November 28, 2014 at 8:07 PMAnonymous: Now Tower B buyers all quiet. Bully by developer and council.
November 30, 2014 at 12:31 AMAnonymous: i also face same issue. the girl from Wayne keep suggesting me to hack my kitchen and make it bigger. like that cost 10k ++++
she think our money is print from photostat machine??????
WTH....!!!
November 30, 2014 at 10:50 AMlee: Still got unit not taken? Is there anyway we can apply directly as we are in waiting list of perumahan LMC.
November 30, 2014 at 11:16 AMAnonymous: I saw comment says still got unit available? How to get one? I'm in waiting list of perumahan LMC
December 2, 2014 at 2:00 PMAnonymous: 文秀和管理层说可以找外面的人装修，现在Wayne company说他们包！我们可以怎么做？
December 2, 2014 at 7:47 PMAnonymous: About the application for CA's balance units and about Wayne reno...

You guys may contact Perumahan or YB incharge, Jagdeep Singh.
Service center at Jln Dato Keramat, just in between Convent Dato Keramat and the Traffic light.

If you guys don't want to ask YB for the balance units or ask about the renovation by urself, NO USE ask over here too.
Because do you think other know more details than the PIC ? Or other ppl can help you more than YB??
December 2, 2014 at 7:55 PMAnonymous: I guess most of the ppl won't ask, or wait other ppl to ask and provide solution.

I'm from tower B, I definitely will ask YB or YAB LGE if Wayne told me that can't get outsource.

Maybe you all have money, but I'm not
December 6, 2014 at 1:36 PMAnonymous: Management office said tower B oc mayb nd to wait until 2015 Jun.
December 6, 2014 at 1:42 PMAnonymous: Hopefully YB or YAB LGE will help! If you in my situation, you will understand wat I feel. If u wan find outsider contractor, nd to buy brick,sand atc from WAYNE! The price is higher higher higher than market price!
December 6, 2014 at 10:26 PMAnonymous: Hi Anonymous at December 6, 2014 at 1:42 PM
Wayne force you to buy raw materials (brick, cement, sand ect) from them?
I heard that gangster charge waste clearing fee to house owner. they even buli malay house owner (sorry to say that chinese are rather kiasi).
in my opinion base on news last year, only police can deal with them. I have approach one police officer but i am kiasi and hesitate cause afraid they will revenge
FYI, the fat guy in management office had been threaten by gangster and my contractor back off... the Wayne has shop in golden triangle too.

maax
December 6, 2014 at 10:41 PMAnonymous: Hi Anonymous December 2, 2014 at 7:55 PM
I am agree with you. this is old story of penang and ppl here seems used to it.
how ours tiny force could defy the evil? I am wondering.....

maax
December 6, 2014 at 11:19 PMAnonymous: Dear Max & the rest of the residents,

You may drop an email to LGE, via limguaneng@penang.gov.my pertaining to those issues you are facing. Such as threaten by the reno company, any problem with the house area etc.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013/08/12/Gangster-contractors/

Penang police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Abdul Rahim Hanafi urged unit owners to lodge reports or call the police hotline at 04-269 1999.

“We do not condone such actions. We need unit owners to provide us with information so that we can act. Everyone has the right to choose their own contractors or material suppliers,” he said.

I did emailed to him, he ask Mr. Gooi (should be YB Jagdeep's assistant) to reply me. Until now he yet reply me. Just know that still has YB unable to ask his assistant to expedite the work.

but i believe that if you are can drop LGE and email, this issue will raise his awareness.

Well folks, it is time to do something... !!!

Anonymous December 2, 2014 at 7:55 PM
December 6, 2014 at 11:35 PMAnonymous: some ppl really KNS, keep complaint about the reno and do not dare to report this to council.
then later say council or police never help.

you own the house, but dont want to help youself.
then eat youself better. Stop blame council and police never help you.
is youself never help yourself!!!!!

report this to police.
report this to LGE.

if not, stop the fuxking bullshit over here!!!
stupid !!!
December 7, 2014 at 12:16 AMAnonymous: i did sent email to YB Jagdeep 2 days ago.
if no reply in one week, then forward to LGE.
honestly, i have concern if my identity will not leak to certain party. Am i prepare to be beaten up by strangers (it did happened to a plumber) or other worst case scenario?
well, i could imagine maybe malay or indian will help if i lay down by the roadside. (just my life experience, don't take it too serious)

maax
December 7, 2014 at 3:35 AMAnonymous: Our company are doing renovation and we are doing our showroom now and we are not the reno shop there .. partly of our profit will be given to the locals at that area where the dont have house and cant apply and only help out the temple above the hill .
they were bully and i know them that even stay inside the hill ..
we are a company that have a few oroject that is running with good back ground and our price is not expensive and sure to make you smile after getting to know what our company will be providing .. GIVE ME A CALL 011-4020-5622 CHIN KAI .. WE CARE AND HOPE ALL OWNER HELP US SO WE CAN HAVE RESOURCES TO HAVE ABILITY TO CONTROL THE PPL MOVING IN THIS PLACE SO IT WILL BE STILL SAFE ..
December 7, 2014 at 3:49 AMAnonymous: Owners having problem or need a parti to give you all a good surport and to voice it out for you pls do call me and i will assist you .. 01135071324 .. we are a new parti that is looking at the both goverment and we dare to voice out for the citizen of penang ..

if you need help in anyway our parti are willing to give you all as much help as posible...

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO STAND UP FOR YOURSELF AND NOT TO COMPROMISE WHAT IS YOUR RIGHT .. WE WILL LEAD BUT WE NEED YOU GUYS TO HOLD ON YOUR RIGHTS AND GIVE IT A FIGHT ..
December 7, 2014 at 2:08 PMAnonymous: Hi Chin Kai & Anonymous December 7, 2014 at 3:49 AM

TQ. Will contact you when i get keys for Tower B and facing any "problem"

By the way, Chin Kai, your company's reno is it including to install "Bird cage", main door's steel, extra electric point etc?

DN
December 7, 2014 at 2:23 PMAnonymous: Maax,

Is it you over thinking? If you driving, use your car langgar them la.
If beat at somewhere, ask for help or fight back.
If people want to kill you, will you stand still and let them kill?
Stop use your imagination over here.

most of the people like to use the words "i heard from someone", "see from news", "my friend told me"

all place also have gangster. If scare then don't change house.

Or you may contact above Anonymous December 7, 2014 at 3:35 AM / Anonymous December 7, 2014 at 3:49 AM.
I believe they will help us up.

Bukit Gambir is a good place. be positive.
December 8, 2014 at 2:29 AMAnonymous: Smart people use mouth, stupid people use hand.
Think twice before you become first bird to shoot down
December 8, 2014 at 12:14 PMAnonymous: agreed with Dec 18 229am.
Dont let other manipulate you all.
This is LMC project by PG Government, anything just report to them.
If government cant help citizen, police also no use anymore.
December 9, 2014 at 1:03 AMAnonymous: Hi Anonymous December 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM
How about you try first and tell us the answer?
Good to know what will happen to you after you hit someone with your car. Else stop instigating!!
December 9, 2014 at 3:32 AMAnonymous: Hi Anonymous Dec. 9. 1:03am

Which part of the following are instigating ?

"Is it you over thinking? If you driving, use your car langgar them la.
If beat at somewhere, ask for help or fight back.
If people want to kill you, will you stand still and let them kill?
Stop use your imagination over here."?

1) if other chasing you, and you are near to your car, what will you do?
escape? defending yourself? fight back?

2) If someone beating you, what will you do?
escape? defending yourself? ask for help? fight back?

3) If people want to kill you, will you stand still and let them kill?
still want to escape? they wish to kill you, do you still defending? not even want to fight back for yourself?

Perhaps you have low self-defence or low critical thinking. I can't blame you.
Whenever in danger, if "Maax" still unable to defending himself, then nobody can help him except himself.

Probably I know why, perhaps because "MaaX" or other people are KIASI and KIASU (takut mati takut kalah). That is why just pandai-pandai keep type over here and unable to do anything.

All over this blog, you all just grumble when can take keys, developer bully buyers for higher prices, why need to pay extra late penalty charges, why Tower B delay OC, has gangster Reno at Centrio Avenue, This and that.

Just know how to complain. How many of you are really give suggestion?
When have someone giving suggestions, how many of you are take it as an option and try to do it?

Like has some users comment to contact YB or LGE, do you ask them? dare to ask? dare to contact them?

When other says got gangster Reno, do you all lodge police report?
report to council? or YB or even LGE?

Hi Anonymous Dec. 9. 1:03am
People like you just good in condemn other and never think of what is the good side.
No wonder you so KIASI and never give any suggestion. Just know how to spy what is other's thinking and bomb on it.

Do you really think that there is no triad in all areas?
when you go to Mount Erskine, Air Itam, Tg Bungah, G'town, Bayan lepas, Batu Maung, Balik Pulau, Prai, Butterworth, Bm.
Those places also sure have some "BIG BROTHER" take care. Just you dont know. I also dont know. But when you are there, maybe you will know it.

You read back Maax's post.

"i did sent email to YB Jagdeep 2 days ago.
if no reply in one week, then forward to LGE.
honestly, i have concern if my identity will not leak to certain party. Am i prepare to be beaten up by strangers (it did happened to a plumber) or other worst case scenario?
well, i could imagine maybe malay or indian will help if i lay down by the roadside. (just my life experience, don't take it too serious)
maax"

What is his point? indirectly leading the rest to keep quiet and get bully by developer or the so call Wayne's gangster reno?
His concern that his identity will lack, is it means that he ask us just take Wayne's reno and no need find cheaper quotation?
and "just my life experience" means what? scare the rest of the buyers not to report this to police or council?

If you think that Anonymous December 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM is instigating, then Anonymous Dec. 9. 1:03am was the person behind who persuading the rest to do nothing, Be nothing. Hear Nothing. See Nothing.
Just pay expensive Reno to Wayne. Just bully by developer.

Well, congrats to all the buyers at CA because has Anonymous Dec. 9. 1:03am who so supportive on DOING NOTHING. Not even give a good solution too.

If can't say nice things (good suggestion), say nothing!!!!
December 9, 2014 at 8:14 AMAnonymous: Agreed!!!!
December 9, 2014 at 9:46 AMAnonymous: i agreed too!
December 9, 2014 at 11:25 AMAnonymous: Hi December 9, 2014 at 3:32 AM
I am just a victim. I have nothing to do nor any interest in Wayne or gangster. You may stop using your imagination as well.
If someone affected by my comment in your way of thinking, i have nothing to say.
Maybe gangster gives comment and suggestion over here. Who's know.
Since I don't have any fruitful trial, I'd better zip my mouth.
Maax
December 9, 2014 at 4:19 PMAnonymous: Maax,
Even your last comment also sound negatively. Why can't you say some good thing? I personally feel that you're more instigating than others.
December 11, 2014 at 1:49 PMAnonymous: This is a place for comment snd not condamn others to stop trying to let others know the situation ..
Maax you have to understand that family safety come first and you are asking to fight back or to bang them with cars .. this is a place for adult and not a place for childish person and a place to reslove problem ..
You talk like a man then prove it by confranting the ppl that is collecting waste money and ppl that force to buy supply from them and also by leaving your phone number ...
Pls do not care about this kind of ppl that trying to bully and insult ppl comment ..

Pls continue with your comment and post all the details cause i need info of that project and how much waste collected from owner and who is forcing to buy supply from them ..
I am here to help ..
Maax pls dont reply and if you want leave a contact number ok .. tq ...
CK
December 12, 2014 at 2:02 PMAnonymous: CK
ur concern to Maax is report whatever he facing to police? or just pay money as request ?
because u r asking him think of family safety. mean normal ppl will get the msg tat just pay for it and avoid any problem.
it is good to share everything, but how many of the owners will share it?
some very selfish until asking the rest to do own research.
we all trying to help each other, but seems like nobody willing to cooperate.
December 16, 2014 at 7:03 PMAnonymous: Any prob can contact Yb Jagdeep 012 488 3571
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December 16, 2014 at 7:18 PMAnonymous: I am not bn or dap supporter , I stay neutral

For those who want to ask CM LGE for help , please do so

You think he is very efficient or he really sincere want to help the rakyat

When Jagdeep Singh held the meeting between the developer and the purchaser , was the CM around ? not all

If he really sincere in helping the rakyat , his so called best attitude only know how to blame bn and umno for all the prob he is facing including flies and cockroaches in his mouth

If nothing has been done to help you all from opposition bn , please write in to ministry of housing in putrajaya or ask tribunal for help

Among all the developers in pg , boon siew is the only one dare to charge higher selling price than what is set by the state govt for
medium cost 72 500

Go and find out and think maturely who is protecting this developer behind

They are unscruplous and taking the law into their own hands
December 16, 2014 at 7:23 PMAnonymous: When Jagdeep Singh held the meeting between the developer and the purchaser , was the CM around ? not at all

Now only you all know what type of pg state govt that we have !
December 16, 2014 at 10:35 PMAnonymous: HI!December 16, 2014 at 7:18 PM
Harmony View also LMC but is the price RM72500?
pls go and check out this happen long time ago....
December 17, 2014 at 11:08 AMAnonymous: Hi December 16, 2014 at 10:35 PM,
Thank you for the info about Harmony View. Just know about it.
if the purchase price about 140k-170k at the year of 2008, CA is worth than HV due to inflation.

as far as i concern, YB Jagdeep's respond really slow. eventhough his PA - Daniel also the same. need to keep follow up with them, only willing to reply a short email. maybe this is their "efficiency"
December 17, 2014 at 1:47 PMAnonymous: BoonSiew keep telling owner of Tower B that will have CCC soon and said Council delaying.
According to Council, they are awaiting for the final sales report from BoonSiew.
That 's why have new buyers are commented over that they just get offer letter and so on.
Council need to wait for certain numbers of sold out units only release CCC.
Therefore, is it BoonSiew is pulling our legs?
im not sure how is the procedure for LMC. But as we all know, BoonSiew is delaying and push the ball to council,
December 17, 2014 at 6:45 PMAnonymous: http://www.mediatvkota.com/?p=1312

Please read the above article , under the new law on next year onwards buyers can approach ministry of housing to cancel sales and purchase agreement if there is no progress for 6 months
December 17, 2014 at 10:15 PMAnonymous: http://www.mediatvkota.com/?p=1312
this new law is for projek terbengkalai not for CA . because whole building of CA was
completed. may be some of qualifiy buyers just qualify for buying LMC but not qualify
for housing loan. so they will ask developer to waiting for their approval of housing loan.
till the due date developer will cancel the old and ask SG for a new list of qualify buyer.
at the end everbody wait,wait,waitloh.....
December 21, 2014 at 1:27 PMAnonymous: As what i know, CCC approval is not related to the selling unit of the LMC. If the building complete, they can apply the CCC.
December 22, 2014 at 10:38 AMAnonymous: Hi Dec 27, 1.27pm

Agreed with u. this LMC project's CCC was delay for quite sometimes.
Personally did contact Daniel, YB Jagdeep's assistant.
He told me that gotta wait for the final report before related dept approve CCC. I was numb.

If I have money, I also will buy better place. This is double standard for CCC in between LMC and Condo.
December 22, 2014 at 9:35 PMLMC applicant for years and still waiting...: i believe some of you all here cant wait for the oc to rent out the unit... i am so frustrated and angry that deserving people did not get the unit but the units being given to those that do not need to stay at the house...something is so wrong with the system that deserving people need to rent from those people...if you all think i am accusing without any proof please spend 5 mins to check in mudah... dun get me wrong i know some of u all really need the house but i know some minority dont... anyway just drop by to voice out my frustration...
December 26, 2014 at 12:37 PMAnonymous: Hi 935pm 22-12,

U have the point. Some have house and just intend to rent out CA.
But the rest will need the new house. Some still renting room, have issue with family or relative.

It is the buyers' right to rent out their own units. No conflict with other buyers.

No matter owners or tenants itself, we all just would like to say peacefully.
December 26, 2014 at 11:51 PMAnonymous: I got 2 unit here free. Boon Siew give me as present.
December 27, 2014 at 12:04 PMAnonymous: Is it true 26/12/2014 11:51pm? Then u good lo, on hand have 600k already. no need like the rest, no need go through the bank for 300k loan. faster sell it la, u also earn about 400k after sales tax.

if boonsiew go good, why not give u the opposite CA's terrace house (2 million) or the condo (about 1million)?
December 27, 2014 at 12:58 PMUnknown: Hi all, im new here. Fyi, i just paid 10% deposite for CA to Nuwata last Wed. The girl from Nuwata was not helpful since I asked the unit available for me to choose she said cannot choose. Its the procedure like that. As a buyer, i got my right to choose the unit despite i only buy a RM72,500 worth of house. Total purchase is RM101,000
December 27, 2014 at 1:02 PMUnknown: Hi all, im new here. Fyi, i just paid 10% deposite for CA to Nuwata last Wed. The girl from Nuwata was not helpful since I asked the unit available for me to choose she said cannot choose. Its the procedure like that. As a buyer, i got my right to choose the unit despite i only buy a RM72,500 worth of house. Total purchase is RM101,000
December 28, 2014 at 12:01 PMAnonymous: Hello Izz,

as i know, there are reserved units for bumiputera. which means non bumiputera only can choose the non reserved units, and bumuputera just can choose reserved units.

this apartment's sales start since last year end (maybe) because i was on Dec 2013 badge (price about 170k). on that time, I wish to select the unit which only availble for bumiputera but i cant get it due to above reason.

maybe now the bumiputera's units are limited for selection.

anyhow, hope we all (bumi and non bumi) can live peacefully under one roof :)

from Wednesday ~~
December 29, 2014 at 9:02 PMUnknown: Hello,
I was not been told about bumi reserved unit by the girl as I believe after I draw my floor number I can choose the unit that available at that floor.

One more thing that really weird which for the loan, the girl told me to go to either Public Bank near Lam Wah Ee Hospital or RHB at Bishop Street. Why should stick to these 2 banks and the said branch
December 30, 2014 at 10:03 AMAnonymous: Perhaps due to limited units.
We may not know the balance units, except their staffs or closed related parties (council maybe).

Is it your financial institution is one of the referred bank?
Perhaps the respective banks' managers have connection with developer. Win win condition,

U may go to other banks if you find out the interest is lower than the provided banking.
December 30, 2014 at 1:06 PMAnonymous: hi dec 26 12.37pm,
Are you serious?"It is the buyers' right to rent out their own units"???? do you know that this LMC unit cannot be rented out or sell(min 5 years)?Thats why I am so pissed off to see so many people waiting to rent out all those units given to them.
December 30, 2014 at 11:16 PMAnonymous: Dear Dec 30, 1,06pm,

For LMC, can't sell out for the first 10 years (and need to get consent from council if sell, also to the qualify buyers only)
--> http://www.apartment-penang.com/2013/12/new-housing-rules-for-affordable-housing.html

and thanks for the info about "can't rent out". I just know about it.
--> http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/low-cost-home-owners-in-penang-warned-not-to-rent-out-units

Now i understood your feeling. But what to do? anyone wanna go report this?
copy the advertisement link, send to Jagdeep Singh, See our belove YB akan buat apa.

If i can "Tag" those YB over here, I already do it at the first place.

dec 26 12.37pm
January 4, 2015 at 4:07 PMAnonymous: Five things house owners need to pay.

1) Quit Rent & assessment
2) Indah water and Utilities (electric & water)
3) Maintenance fee (for apartment / condo / gated residential)
4) Mortgage insurance
5) Fire insurance

For the 1-3, it is unavoidable.

No. 4, house owner should know the difference in between MRTA & MLTA. Question is do them given the option to choose?

The comparison between MRTA & MLTA
https://www.imoney.my/articles/mrta-vs-mlta-need/

Fire insurance
The bank may ask house owner to get the insurance directly from them. But the bank just insured the house for 70-80% of the loan. For example, loan RM100,000, sum insured about RM70,000 – RM80,000 only. Will this be under value? If the house valued RM200,000, but insured of RM80,000. House owner have the risk of RM120,000 lost.

Secondly, the house owner can tell the bank that building management do purchase the master policy of fire insurance. They can give a copy of the insurance to the bank to stop the Bank’s insurance. However, the building management’s insurance’s coverage is LESSER than the bank’s fire insurance. YES, the price of course will be cheaper, but the protection definitely will be less.

I am one of the buyers of this apartment. That is why I share over here. So that the rest of the owner will notice the different.

TQ,
D
January 5, 2015 at 5:20 PMAnonymous: Hi,
Can anyone tell me how to get this project? As i've applied to government and their new system doesnt allow us to choose any particular project anymore
January 5, 2015 at 8:07 PMAnonymous: Hi
May I ask some question. Is it the rules that the house can't be rented out? Because I saw a lot of ads in Mudah, iProperty, PropertyGuru.
N, if the tenant doesn't know about it, how it's gonna be?
Can someone enlighten me?
Thanks
January 6, 2015 at 6:17 PMAnonymous: I would like to press a conference for CENTRIO AVENUE TOWER 2 CCC.Anyone like to join pls call me-0164031378.
January 6, 2015 at 7:29 PMAnonymous: 5/1/2015 520pm
I don't think you can get this project if you just apply recently.
Some submitted the form few years also no news. If you can get it, that is your luck.

5/1/2015 807pm
This may be the blind area. Suppose the council staff should inform the applicants. Or the lawyer for snp should notify buyers.

I just know about the rules through this blog too.

If the council find out those breach the contract, then gotta see what council will do liao. (Tutup mata? Sebelah mata? Or buka mata?)

This just my personal opinion. Hope won't offense whoever are related.
January 14, 2015 at 7:35 PMAnonymous: as at today, erumah's record, Bilangan Unit is : 780, Terima Tawaran : 518, Dalam Proses Tawaran : 98, Baki Unit : 164.
base on percentage calculation, roughly 67% are sold out.12% are in the process. Balance units still vacant.

I very curious, why Tower B's OC still pending?
January 14, 2015 at 9:20 PMAnonymous: I know u know we all know...
January 14, 2015 at 11:08 PMAnonymous: PERUMAHAN TOLD ME NEXT WEEK WILL ISSUE SUPPORTING DOCUMENT FOR OC,HOPE EVERYTHING GOES WELL.
January 15, 2015 at 8:09 AMAnonymous: Hi January 14, 2015 at 11:08 PM
is it u contact perumahan lately? this project's OC is delay for more than 1 year.
January 15, 2015 at 11:34 AMAnonymous: I just called BSG， the girl told me that the OC obtain date not sure yet, it should be after Chinese New Year already.
January 15, 2015 at 11:35 AMAnonymous: Anybody got penalty issue for tower B?
January 15, 2015 at 10:03 PMAnonymous: From now to cny, 1 month ++ (30 days)
If got supporting letter for OC and still need 1 months plus to release keys, this really prove that BSG and council are very 'efficient' in their work.

Now the rich man condo just opposite to CA, is half way done with painting. We all see how fast their OC will be approve and when they start staying there.

I dare to bet, less than 6 months after their completion will have people stay.
January 15, 2015 at 10:07 PMAnonymous: Check back loan agreement, it has stated when bank will release $ to developer.
If there is a clause stated bank only release $ when obtain oc, then good luck too all affected borrowers.
January 16, 2015 at 12:33 PMAnonymous: PR often says they will be better than BN, but from this apartment issue. It neither same as BN, or maybe worst.

On one hand, those mastermind often claim themselves are the best, through massmedia. They can control the news. But from what do we experience now is seems like helpless. Even Gerakan also don't want to assist. They may think that Penang people never help them, now they won't help back.
This such as worst decision. They should show us how good they are when people need them. In return, we will know which are they truly helpful MP or YB.

on the other hand, PR seems like never update why the OC will delay. Since last year until now, always say 'oc will get soon'. For those who did asking the update of OC news, sure get what i means here.

I am agree with January 15, 2015 at 10:03 PM, the luxury condo's OC (just next to CA) will be obtain very soon. Will this due to developer? due to different project ?
Private condo and LMC have double standard?
Rich man can get keys fast, poor man need to ask?

No doubt, the council's staff often delay thing. If you ever deal with them, you may know.
They can chit chat with other while serving you. Especially when you're paying bills at MPPP. Even PR government also unable to change this working ethic. Or it getting worst?

"The public's voice"
January 16, 2015 at 3:02 PMAnonymous: My bank will only release the $$ to developer upon OC, so since Dec, my penalty already started, 10% penalty from developer...haiz...poor guy became poorer, what can i do :(
January 16, 2015 at 3:40 PMAnonymous: Since Dec 2014? Some start earlier 2014, almost 1 year. Council won't care because not they get the loan and pay for late charges. They think once signed Loan Agreement, bank will release money to developer. Lot of owners never care, because they think won't get penalty. When BSG inform Tower B's owners to collect keys, they will jump up and scream. Scream for what? for the SURPRISE PRESENT they never think about. Will LGE help them pay the penalty by state's fund? will dev. forfeit the penalty? the more is Dev. reduce partially of the penalty. Thx to the balance owners who did nothing, and let's pay for everything.
January 16, 2015 at 4:58 PMAnonymous: WE HV THE RIGHTS NOT TO PAY THE PENALTY BECAUSE CCC CANTS OBTAIN IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.PLS TEAM UP TO FIGHT FOR OUR HUMAN RIGHTS.ANOTHER ISSUE-I BOUGHT THE UNIT WITH CAR PARK N RENOVATION PACKAGE,NOW BSG WILL ASK FOR RM1K DEPOSIT FOR RENOVATION,WHAT IS ALL THIS?ALL BUYERS SHOULDNT PAY.
January 16, 2015 at 8:14 PMAnonymous: Hi 16/1 4.58pm, developer can withhold the keys until the unit owners settle the penalty. Because it did stated in SNP, the purchasers need to pay the specific amount upon requested. Save and except that developer later willing to reduce the % or waive penalty.

I believe most of the purchasers did buy a carpark. For upgrade package, it is pre-deliver vacant possession. The said 1k is post-deliver of the units. As I know, this is to ensure the respective owners' contractors will clean / clear their own garbage or waste.

Personally I don't object the deposit because we can get back later. Let's say majority or minority never clean their trash, who will go to clear it? We will stay there soon. What we will feel when there have lot of renovation's sampah? Sure complaint other ppl never clean it. Since no need to pay deposit 1k, contractor and owner also won't care so much. Siapa Susah? SENDIRI SUSAH.

Or when our neighbor's contractor throw all the sampah, Batu, tiles, sands just next to our doors and block the walk way and don't want to clean it. How? Ask management to forfeited their deposit and use the money to engage other ppl to clean it.
So, will this make sense for the renovation deposits ? If has anyone disagree with my opinion, pls share out so that we all will know the different and learn together.
January 16, 2015 at 8:23 PMAnonymous: HI JANUARY 16 8.14PM,WHAT I MEAN IS THOSE ALD BOUGHT FOR RENOVATION PACKAGE NONEED RENOVATION ANYMORE,DO U THINK IS NECESSARY TO PAY DEPOSIT FOR RENOVATION?WE JUST NEED TO FIX THE GATE,THATS ALL.FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO RENOVATE THEIR HOUSE,OF COUSE DEPOSIT IS A MUST.
January 16, 2015 at 9:51 PMAnonymous: As I know, the deposit is needed once the owner do install the iron door, install light & extra point, painting and so on.

For example, if X says he don't want to big reno. But later he suddenly want to do. And he think since already declare won't do big reno, then just ask contractor to continue big reno.

To be fair, will all ppl be honest in the declaration form?
I know some very honest, but not all.
This is to ensure all ppl follow the game (rule).

If all ppl just says we won't do big Reno and later go do big Reno. And they never give deposit, how?
Who will go get the deposit if they not willing to pay at that time ?

If you notice the news on last year or 2013. There is a case at Farlim or Paya Terubong, the apartment's committee / staff go ask $ from resident, then he gt killed. A poor man.
January 17, 2015 at 12:50 AMAnonymous: i have read that news before. The victim's wife was delivery new born baby around that time too. A tragic for the family.
January 17, 2015 at 7:30 AMAnonymous: although u bought renovation package unit but u still need install air-cond. right?
u goota to hack a wall and using cement to paste it. and some one rumah sendiri
nak bikin cantik-cantik so living area install a plaster ceiling and downlight. this 2
trade will deliver a lot of waste so the deposit is a must.
January 17, 2015 at 8:18 AMAnonymous: yes, 17/1 730pm has the point. If the owner really wish to know why must pay deposit, should clarify with the management. The management should explain to the owner in detail. That is their job.
January 17, 2015 at 7:20 PMAnonymous: For those who want to go to the opposition , please approach datuk huan parti cinta malaysia. He is the representative for Bukit Gelugor Area for the Opposition
January 19, 2015 at 10:08 PMAnonymous: I HV CONTACTED DATUK HUAN,HE SAID HE CANT HELP COZ PENANG PLP PREFER TO TRUST DAP,HE CANT DO ANYTHING.
January 19, 2015 at 10:50 PMAnonymous: With such excuses? No wonder he just can be opposition.
January 20, 2015 at 2:49 PMAnonymous: the so call WAKIL RAKYAT is just out during election time. after that they will disappear. on ceramah time, always say will help rakyat. either they are elected or not, their face will be disappear for 4-5 years again. maybe in this case, they gain nothing. that is why Grandpa Guan reluctant to help the buyers. If he really smart, he should take it as an opportunity, help the buyers and show that he really will work for the rakyat. We all as the voters, should open eyes big big and see how the politician(s) are DEMI RAKYAT.
a question to be think together, when have other thing happen, will Grandpa Guan or any other oppositions use the same words : I CANT HELP COZ PENANG PLP PREFER TO TRUST DAP, I CANT DO ANYTHING.
a very funny joke to be share : when politician say 'I'M A POLITICIAN AND I DONT LIE", the prostitute should reply to the politician 'I'M A CHICKEN AND STILL A VIRGIN'
January 20, 2015 at 5:13 PMAnonymous: if the CCC hold for another 12 mth to approve, means estimate RM1000 x 12 = RM12,000. That time CCC approve, i also dont have money to collect the key. I m the such poor "rakyat" that's y buy low medium cost house, where can i get this RM 12,000 "CASH" to pay it?
January 20, 2015 at 5:52 PMAnonymous: Hi! January 20, 2015 at 5:13 PM
Who said u have to paid RM 12000?? This calculation where u hear from?
if this truth u think DAP & jabatan perumahan will keep quiet?
January 20, 2015 at 8:15 PMAnonymous: 20/1/2015 5.52pm

you may refer to 5/11/2014 115pm's replied -
@ My bank loan agreement is need OC obtain only will release money to BSG. But in SNP, BSG need to collect payment within 3 mth upon the SNP date. 10% going to be charge to buyer, means have to pay around RM 1500 late interest charges to BSG....

besides, do u personally think DAP and perumahan is really help the buyers?
if really help, LMC from selling price 72.5k + 20k (carpark) = 92.5k is still reasonable cos most of all need parking
but upgrading 30k-70k, but developers still able to sell the price.
those objected it, will get the selected unit (which not that good in terms of floor of lot no.

2) if they really help, how come the building is ready but council still dont want to approve the CCC ?
January 21, 2015 at 9:00 AMAnonymous: January 20, 2015 at 8:15 PM
just like u said the building is ready, for common knowledge yr bank should release
the money to BSG at least 90%. and u said bank wont release money because
not getting CCC? and developer will charge u 10% base yr hse price ?
2) the building guide line was a long time not revised. if developer not build the multi-storey car park and follow the guide line 1 car park for 4 unit hse. at last what will happen? as same at the hse price 72500/650 = RM111 per sqft. the mutiara indah
is 450 RM persqft. that means the 19 years old hse is expensive that new house X 4?
it make sense??
January 21, 2015 at 11:32 AMAnonymous: For those loan approve in early state one, it is ok, mine loan is approve around Aug - Sep, so the new term for the bank is,
1) bank only will release the payment to dev upon CCC approve,
2) need to do a valuation report for the house i buy
The reason given by bank is because the CCC keep delaying since last year Jan 2014
I checked with dev, there is 10% per annum penalty will charge. means loan amount * 10% divide 365 * days till CCC approve
The banker told me, that alot of buyer didnt notice about this....
I called dev, the girl told me that i can write in to appeal to decrease the penaly once CCC approve. But it subject to dev.
January 21, 2015 at 1:19 PMAnonymous: it means developer cant take the 80 or 90% state of completion of amount from u and u hv to give 10% from loan amount as a interest? is that bank officer make it clear for u before u sign the agreement? if u already know it and now u search politician for help......if not is the
bank officer not do it profession way.
January 21, 2015 at 2:13 PMAnonymous: Hi 21/1 9am.
i copied the someone else's post --> 5/11/2014 115pm
but after checked the loan agreement, it did stated as what 5/11/2014 115pm written. that is why i copied it to save time to type it.

If yourself are one of the buyers at CA, and u have the bank loan, please go through the T&C of the loan agreement then u will know more.

Actually i just replied to your previous non-surreality.
Please read again my post on "January 20, 2015 at 8:15 PM", i believe that i make my stand very clear about the actual house price and parking.
The point is at the upgrading package provided by the developer was in between 30k - 70k (Tower A and B are different prices). Because you said will DAP and perumahan will keep quiet on it...
I never said the the actual selling price is over.

Besides, the will Mutiara Indah's so call 1 parking lot to 4 units is base on "FIRST COME FIRST SERVE" basis?
If yes, then will it be expensive for the initial price of Mutiara Indah?
*** i dont know the actual selling price. but the current price is more than 300k.
we all must understand that CA's lot is 1 to 1... is a private lot.

if you take 700 sq ft x Rm450 = RM315,000 (almost the current selling price)
I think we all should know that, most of the Penang Island's property will be keep on increasing.
Perhaps you all can ask around, I heard that CA's subsales is over 300k too.
from around 130k - 170k, not become 300k.
Some may ask, are you kidding me? if dont believe, just check it out.
January 21, 2015 at 2:20 PMAnonymous: ***from around 130k - 170k, NOW become 300k.

as per 21/1, 132pm, he is right. To those don't believe it, please read back the loan agreement. I guess most of the banking will practicing the same.
I did contact developer too, they said may reduce the penalty, NOT WAIVE it.

the banker wont explain too detail. u never ask, why should they tell us? they dont want ur mortgage sale ? if they tell u, will u reconsider their loan OR u go ask another banks?

I just share my the opinion...
January 21, 2015 at 9:13 PMAnonymous: u never ask, why should they tell us......and 1 more question.
y building dun get ccc, the bank wont release $ to developer?
this is what reason??? in constrcution time u release money and
whole building completed at your front u dun want release $ ???
January 21, 2015 at 9:21 PMAnonymous: THE CCC CANT OBTAIN NOT BUYERS' FAULT,ALL OF US SHOULD TEAM UP TO FIGHT FOR OUR HUMAN RIGHTS.
January 21, 2015 at 11:47 PMAnonymous: January 21, 2015 at 9:13 PM - why dont u call to your bank and ask the PIC? they should able to clear your doubt or question.

--> "u never ask, why should they tell us" - this is related to working ethic.
for example : if you are an employee, will you tell you boss "I did something wrong", "
if you are an employer, will you tell the customer "our products not that good, go buy from our competitor"

Regardless you are an employee or employer, who will be so honest and admit it?
even the customer asking the question, the boss or staff also wont be so good and tell the true.
THIS IS THE WORKING ETHIC THAT PROVIDED BY UNETHICAL PPL.

actually do you know what CCC mean? perhaps you can use search engine to find out the answer.
To make it simple, it is like a BIRTH CERTIFICATE for the building (apartment, condo, terrace, bungalow, shopping complex). Without it, although building is ready (something like 9 months pregnancy) but still unable to delivery (the new born baby).

bank is a profit company, they wont do lost business. If the building is yet declare as (new born baby), will the bank release money to the developer?
same example, if the woman cant (or has not) deliver the baby, will the husband or family pay money to hospital?

since last time, i did posted and ask you all to chase council, and have other ppl ask to chase LGE, contact YB they all. Who really got chase them?
because you all dont think this is important.
When the bank is offer the loan, just ask them to calculate the monthly payable $$$ and how long is the loan. You all may not read through the loan agreement.

January 21, 2015 at 9:21 PM
yeah.. we all have the human right. But in certain cases, must support by certain party. In this case :-

1) Do you think the owners will come out?
2) Do you have own lawyer to fight with developer (not the S&P lawyer !!! they act on behalf developer)
3) as per S&P, it clearly stated the payment terms. When approach bank's officer, buyers (borrowers) shall ask when bank will release $$$ before they sign the loan agreement.
4) will this be buyers (borrowers) fault because never read all the agreement and clarify with the bank? yes!!!! it is !!! Upon signed all the agreements, which means the signatures' are agreed with all the T&C.
Don't blame that we are not good in english, dont blame is the lawyer's clerk explain to us... If we dont understand, WE SHOULD ASK them before we sign.

I'm not against anyone, or help the developer nor council. Because myself also want to get the keys fast. I like a empty paper, keep asking here and there. Until i know all these things.
January 22, 2015 at 12:14 AMAnonymous: January 21, 2015 at 9:21 PM
1) cant get CCC is not buyers' fault, then who's fault?
Will it be developer because sell over price? or have uncompleted things inside there but we don't know?
- how you wanna chase ? protest? press conference?
- scream outside developer's office there? holding a banner?

2) will it be council fault because don't want to approve CCC?
- I did email YB Jagdeep but he never reply my email. Really feel disappointed with such YB. Not even reply an email too.
- Contact his assistant, Daniel, also same pattern with his boss. Like boss, like assistant.
Need to keep asking, keep chasing, then only willing to reply one.
(you all maybe won't believe, if you really did contact them, then you sure know what i means over here)
January 22, 2015 at 9:58 AMAnonymous: Even your house got market value 300k, but, LMC house only can sell to those who apply house from gov, which mean who get the approval PN1 from our state gov(even after 10 years), and those ppl like us, "poor", so, do you think, after 10 years the market price maybe increase to 500k, but those ppl afford to buy the house in the market value? their salary is not allow them to buy. If they afford to buy the house, which mean their salary is high, then, they wont get approval from state gov to apply the LMC. If so, then even the house got that high value, but still cannot sell out, maybe have to lower the pric to sell the house to those who qualify. (this case also mentioned from my banker)
January 22, 2015 at 11:06 AMAnonymous: Why get advice from banker? whereas should ask attorney instead.
Will you ask a mechanic to sell delicious Laksa? Or ask the Laksa hawker how to cure diabetic? An accountant to do engineering work? The answer is NO. So, get proper consultation from the expert, and not the banker. Will the banker is experience enough to advice about LMC? does the banker know the actual procedure? he has connection with council or the insider of somewhere else tell him?

ppl hear ppl say ppl tell. We all also can goreng story and tell here. If really want to make sure, go ask the relevant party. and not from third, forth, fifth parties. 10 years. perhaps 10 years later, some of the owners will leave there. 10 years, perhaps has new rules and allow to sell, or prohibited to sell. No to mention 10 years, what will happen on next second, I also do not know.
January 22, 2015 at 11:35 AMAnonymous: "Low cost/Low-medium cost – From now on, all low cost and low-medium cost homes cannot be sold for 10 years from the date of Sale and Purchase Agreement. This rule covers all past and future purchases. Those who wish to sell during the first 10 years must appeal directly to the state government; on a case-by-case basis, a sale may be allowed but only to households registered with the state housing department."

"The prices of future low cost and affordable housing transactions will not be set by the state government, and will instead be based on a “willing buyer, willing seller” basis."

the above were copied from :
http://penangmonthly.com/new-housing-policies-to-help-penangites-cope/

"1. Public Housing – Low Cost And Low Medium Cost Housing
All low cost homes (up to RM42,000) and low-medium cost homes(up to RM72,500) purchased cannot be sold for 10 years from the date of Sale and Purchase Agreement. Those who wish to sell during the first 10 years must appeal to the state government and can only be sold to “listed buyers”. The price transacted will not be set by the state government but will be on a “willing buyer, willing seller” basis by both the “listed buyer” and the seller. Listed buyers are those who have registered with the Housing Department of the state government and are certified as low income groups that are qualified to purchase low-cost or low-medium cost housing. This 10 year rule will cover all past and future purchases. The balloting of houses will be subject to oversight by an auditing firm, the first time this is done by any state government in Malaysia."

above link copied from Pg Gov's website.
http://www.penang.gov.my/index.php/en/2013-04-01-05-24-50/kenyataan-akhbar-yab-km/2787-penang-state-government-new-housing-rule-2013

If the first owner just buy to invest, himself should know the rules. Want to earn more, sell after 10 years. Or go get subsales below 300k, sell after 3 years to prevent bank's penalty. If he rich enough, buy with cash so that he can release the unit whenever he wish.

January 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM
If you don't believe the above link, direct contact State for verification.
In future, if the owner want to sell at 1/2 million also can. Depending on the new buyer whether he is afford to buy or not.

That is very funny that the banker can SAID such words. The banker really GOOD, Very PRO. (hahaha)
January 22, 2015 at 11:41 AMAnonymous: 22/1 9.58 AM. YOU GOT THE LOAN FROM WHICH BANK? DON'T WORRY, WE WON'T GO TO THAT BANK. HAHAHAHAHAHA.................................................
January 22, 2015 at 11:53 AMAnonymous: ACCORDING TO LGE'S PRESS STATEMENT. BELOW IS THE CONTENTS AND LINK. WE ALL ARE ALLOW TO SELL THE HOUSE, BUT FOR FIRST 10 YEARS, JUST NEED TO GET STATE'S CONSENT. THE PRICE IS UP TO THE BUYER AND SELLER THEMSELVES.

"1. Public Housing – Low Cost And Low Medium Cost Housing
All low cost homes (up to RM42,000) and low-medium cost homes(up to RM72,500) purchased cannot be sold for 10 years from the date of Sale and Purchase Agreement. Those who wish to sell during the first 10 years must appeal to the state government and can only be sold to “listed buyers”. The price transacted will not be set by the state government but will be on a “willing buyer, willing seller” basis by both the “listed buyer” and the seller. Listed buyers are those who have registered with the Housing Department of the state government and are certified as low income groups that are qualified to purchase low-cost or low-medium cost housing. This 10 year rule will cover all past and future purchases. The balloting of houses will be subject to oversight by an auditing firm, the first time this is done by any state government in Malaysia."

http://www.penang.gov.my/index.php/en/2013-04-01-05-24-50/kenyataan-akhbar-yab-km/2787-penang-state-government-new-housing-rule-2013

VERY FUNNY THE BANKER WILL SAID SUCH WORDS. CURIOUS WHERE HE COME FROM. SIMPLY SAID.
January 22, 2015 at 12:48 PMAnonymous: meaning that within 10 year, we only can sell to the "listed buyer" ( low income group )
after 10 year, we can sell to anybody even not a "listed buyer" ?
January 22, 2015 at 1:08 PMAnonymous: January 22, 2015 at 12:48 PM - u gt the point.
within 10 years or above 10 years, price set by owners. If new buyer cant accept, find others. ;)
January 22, 2015 at 1:39 PMAnonymous: ALD 1 YEAR I HV BEEN CHASING COUNCIL ,DEVELOPER N EVEN ARCHITECH WHO IS GOING TO ISSUE THE CCC.BUT THE ANSWER IS SOON UNTILL TODATE.
January 22, 2015 at 2:27 PMAnonymous: SEND AN EMAIL TO LGE. IN CHINESE, MALAY OR ENGLISH.
TELL HIM WHAT HIS VOTERS ARE FACING. DO YOU DARE TO EMAIL HIM? EMAIL ALSO SCARE? SEE HOW LGE WILL HELP YOU. SEE WHAT HE WILL RESPOND. IF HE CANT HELP, ACCEPT THE FAITH AND PAY FOR MORE LATE PENALTY.

limguaneng@penang.gov.my
January 22, 2015 at 2:48 PMAnonymous: ALD EMAIL TO LGE,NO RESPOND.
January 22, 2015 at 4:04 PMAnonymous: WHEN YOU SEND OUT THE EMAIL? LONG TIME AGO OR JUST NOW? IF JUST NOW, SHOULD GIVE PPL SOME TIMES TO REPLY. IF NO REPLY, LATER SEND A FOLLOW UP MSG TO HIM.
January 22, 2015 at 5:17 PMAnonymous: EMAL TO LGE,YBJAGDEEP FOR FEW TIMES,SENT LETTER ALSO,FEW MONTHS AGO,NO REPLY AT ALL.
January 22, 2015 at 5:43 PMAnonymous: some body already said ,Will you ask a mechanic to sell delicious Laksa?
if the tower B lift can't work, and u ask LGE to fix for u ??
wah lao eh.......
January 22, 2015 at 7:43 PMAnonymous: LGE had replied me within few days after I send out the email. That is why I knew Daniel, which is Jadgeep's assistant.

Are you write a correct contents?
I realize most ppl fail to ask the correct question, lead to lousy answer afterward.
January 22, 2015 at 10:34 PMAnonymous: January 22, 2015 at 7:43 PM
Any update after LGE replied your mail?
I call so many times to YB Jagdeep assistant Daniel said CCC will obtain very soon.
All the times the same answer until I dare to call him anymore.

Is that LGE willing to help us? Nobody know, they keep on push here push there only.
Until election that times then they only can come out very fast...

I go to Gerakan, they also don't want to help, they asked me to find back DAP
January 23, 2015 at 10:21 AMAnonymous: January 22, 2015 at 10:34 PM - YOU'RE RIGHT. THING GET FAST DURING ELECTION. NOW THE OPPOSITION GIVE US FACE TO SEE, LATER WE GIVE BACK 'APPRAISAL FORM' DURING NEXT GE. SIMILAR WITH WORKING, IF EMPLOYEE'S PERFORMANCE NOT GOOD, THE MANAGER (BOSS) SURE KNOW WHAT TO DO.
January 23, 2015 at 1:20 PMAnonymous: He said just receive the sales report from developer, will held a meeting on January to discuss further. February will check again.
LMC's CCC can delay, high-end condo's CCC immediately. Really double standard. They just know to take care richman. or the developer will to give money ? because earn more in luxury condo...?

In this LMC, BSG force to build LMC, because it is a MUST for them to do so if they wanna build a luxury residential (the landed and conodo in front of CA)
January 27, 2015 at 10:11 AMAnonymous: MOST PEOPLE JUST TALK COK. WAIT OTHER DO THING, THEMSELVES SIT AT HOME SHAKE THEIR SMELLY ASS. WHEN OTHER RAISE THE SOLUTION, THEY RAISE THE DOUBT. STUPID DUMB ASS.
January 28, 2015 at 10:51 AMAnonymous: This is another view point. seems some bank
dun want to release money the reason give is
developer delay ccc. and developer will charge
10% penalty to buyer but some bank release
money and charge the interest 4 or 5 % to buyer.
None politician will help coz this is buyer to bank
problem and not also developer problem coz in S&P
developer to delivered hse to buyer is within 3 years.
Tower A already CCC. tower B not. actually buyer
can argue with bank y said tower B CCC delay?
can't said tower B construction completed early
schedule? another word is tower B completion
date is 2016 not 2014. can't said tower A
is phase 1 and Tower 2 is phase 2? and
we know the developer is financial strong
developer, Tower B could be abandon?
and the bank 'kia si' dun want release money?
January 28, 2015 at 5:54 PMAnonymous: Hi 28/1 10.51am
You should seek for legal advice instead.

SNP did stated that delivery house within 3 years. Buyers unable to sue developer for any cause since 3 years term yet reach. Therefore, developer no rush to chase CCC because they don't breach the agreement. Buyers have no ground to sue them.

Loan agreement is between buyers and bank. This won't have any related with developer.

For tower A, some of buyers signed SNP @ 2012. They receive keys by 2014 end. Within 3 years.

Tower B, SNP signed end of 2013, 2014 and some 2015.
So... Developer can wait until 2016 end to deliver keys.

As U said, Building completed early, or completion date is 2016. Do u think bank will give exception?
January 29, 2015 at 2:17 PMAnonymous: WOHOOO. CHEER FOR THE UNLUCKY OWNERS FOR CENTRIO AVENUE (A & B).
GOLDEN TRIANGLE AT RELAU GT THEIR CCC AND SOME ALREADY MOVE IN. THEY CAN GET CCC LESS THAN 6 MONTHS UPON COMPLETION. LMC REALLY IS A GOOD PROJECT HUH. CCC CAN LONGER THAN EXPENSIVE CONDO. DEVELOPER AND COUNCIL REALLY TAKE CARE THE OWNERS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SAFE BEFORE ALLOW OWNERS TO MOVE IN. SO TAKE CARE ARRRR....
January 29, 2015 at 9:14 PMAnonymous: I heard from below coffee shop owner said tower B delay get OC is due to there is some court case from few unit's owner from tower B. These owners complaint that the low medium cost price is too high (top up package) and developer are planning degrade their unit to original unit (RM72500) before OC can pass..this is wat i heard..not sure how true is it..
January 29, 2015 at 10:23 PMAnonymous: This is the use of coffee shop. Blow water together.

Actually that make sense for developer to dismantle all the tiles and give the normal unit if buyers don't want the upgrade package.
Likewise, if customer buy standard spec of MyV, impossible Perodua give him full spec.

Complaint about the offer, then who sue developer ? If the respective buyers don't agree with the offer, do they signed S&P? Never read any news too.

Be honest, most of the LMC house, are come up with upgrading package. Maybe some is still stick with the actual price, will the location as good as other? Think about it.......
January 29, 2015 at 11:32 PMAnonymous: I also never see any reason for the plaintiffs (buyers) to stop this project. If they suing developer, on what ground? In a contract, if either one party doesn't follow the terms, or breach the contract, only eligible to proceed with legal action.

Like "10:23 PM" said, did all the complainers signed the documents (S&P)? on the launching days, the sales staff did informed about the price. Whenever buyers are not agreed, they should not sign S&P. Since upon signing, they are bond with the T&C.

Let's say they signed and complaint. The most get the house without any upgrading.
If the buyers still want the upgrading and pay normal price, they are over.

If the delay really due to those peoples, then they really create problem to the rest. Cause the rest to pay the late penalty charge.
January 30, 2015 at 2:12 PMAnonymous: THE DEVELOPER DOESNT FORCE BUYERS TO BUY THE UPGRADE UNIT,IF BUYERS INSISTED ON RM72500,THEY ARE FREE TO DO SO.
January 30, 2015 at 10:13 PMAnonymous: But the staff told me that it was under a package. It is tie with the house. Different floors different price. The higher would be more expensive.
January 31, 2015 at 9:57 AMAnonymous: JANUARY 30 @10.13PM U STILL HV THE RIGHT NOT TO TAKE THE PACKAGE.
January 31, 2015 at 1:17 PMAnonymous: Happy weekend to all ;)

January 31, 2015 at 9:57 AM - i know, but it still under my expectation because before this i did look around for the latest LMC project. Can guess the selling price. Due to the location, this price is acceptable.

some of the owners lagi geng, can go do huge reno as per the showroom. heard it cost about 80k. means the reno is expensive than the actual price of 72.5k.
if they purchase the house in total around 130k, plus 80k, the total will be 210k. which means the initial upgrade package seems like wasted because they re-reno for second time. This yet include the furniture, household items etc, maybe about 20-30k on top of that. ;(

If they get the house on actual price 72.5k, plus 80k of second reno, that means about 152.5k

If buy subsales, the price of course more than our purchase price (CA or other place). some more is old unit. So, it is depend on how we view it.

JANUARY 30 @10.13PM

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