Southbay Residence


Southbay Penang a mixed development project located on a 35ha freehold site in Batu Maung. Residence @ Southbay phase 1 comprises of 288 units 3-storey link homes with built-up areas of over 3,000 sq.ft.

There are six bedrooms and six bathrooms in each unit and a garden located on the second floor. There will also be clubhouse and a recreational park, high-level security, patrolling guards and intrusion devices installed in the individual properties.

Property Project : Residence@Southbay
Location : Batu Maung, Penang
Property Type : 3-Storey Link Homes
Tenure : Freehold
Built-up Area : 3,300 sq.ft. (Type A), 3,000 sq.ft. (Type B)
Land Area : 24'x75' (Type A), 22'x75' (Type B)
Total Units : 288
Developer : Enrich Property Development Sdn Bhd (Mah Sing Group)

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May 7, 2009 at 4:34 PMUnknown

so tomorrow we will find out who SY, house, etc is during the show house opening :P

 
May 7, 2009 at 5:12 PMUnknown

house, stay connected :)

 
May 8, 2009 at 12:13 AMJohn

The show house looks quite classy.. :-)

 
May 8, 2009 at 11:19 AMUnknown

Hi, if you are looking for a buyer to recommend you for great $$ savings, pls contact me, we can discuss the details offline - southbayrocks@gmail.com

 
May 8, 2009 at 1:48 PMUnknown

house, the showhouse is really good as what you described, very beautiful, classy and worth the investment. Really beyond my expectation.

 
May 8, 2009 at 2:11 PMUnknown

Went to see the original unit this morning. Very DISAPPOINTED with the quality and material used for the window frames and knobs. Unlike the ones used by E&O for the Tanjung Pinang project and DNP for Sentral Greens project. Cannot believe they are using the same material commonly found in typical apartments. Mahsing should have considered using the higher standard of material/design as what it claimed as "Medium-Highend" project.

 
May 8, 2009 at 4:45 PMUnknown

we should post impartial comments of the pros and cons, this helps to accelerating the new potential buyers decision.

 
May 8, 2009 at 8:49 PMEKH

SB or SPI are from reputable developers. I guess it depends on your personnel preference. I signed up for SB last year during soft launch with discount but opted for SPI later, based on my own personnel preference.

If you are purchasing SB, just take note of the following:-
i) there was a plastic recycling factory at the outskirt right by the side of the property. I am not sure if Mah SIng managed to purchase that piece of land or the factory has relocated
ii) There is also a comm antenna beside the post office belonging to Telecomm.

SO if you choose your units, you may want to choose the units to avoid these 2 items.

 
May 8, 2009 at 9:06 PMMS

EKH, where is the plastic recycle factory located ? Post office side(right) or left side ? How far away from SB ? Does plastic recycle factory produced air pllutants ? Does this factory belongs to those kampung factory ? Which road of this factory located ? I drove by but not notice it.

 
May 8, 2009 at 9:28 PMUnknown

EKH, you are right. However, it was quite far from the current project. I believe it is nearer to the Bangalow units (Legenda) or near to the 2nd causeway. Please see the photo that I am going to post it on this website.

 
May 8, 2009 at 9:48 PMUnknown

Those who buy setia island, i heard some of them regret also, because they need to pay the loan NOW instead of having some time window to wait like the SB guys (of course they get to move in earlier), but this 2.5 years given by SB's 595 package helps a lot to minimize loan interest rate %.

Setia guys also are complaining about their club house not exclusive + limit to only 2 adult and 2 children.

The point is, there's good and bad between SB and Setia, u got to know what you really want and make your own judgement, don't listen to others.

Go visit the show house tomorrow, go talk to the locals there, make some rounds around the site, make your own call

 
May 8, 2009 at 10:22 PMUnknown

The scientific Principle Involved:

The radio, TV and microwave transmission tower transmits RF and UHF electromagnetic field in the atmosphere. The intensity of these fields is maximum near the tower and reduces as Inverse Square of distance.The value of electric field EO at a distance ‘r` from a vertical transmitting antenna radiating power P is given by

p/4πr2=1/2E0εoc
E0=2p/4πr2 ε0c

As electromagnetic radiation falling on the human body, partially penetrate inside; create a potential drop across the tissues. The penetration of field depend upon the frequency of radiation & depth inside the skin. Field at a distance z inside from the surface of the body is given by

Ez=E0e-z/δ

Where δ is the skin depth, is give by: 1/qw.

The distance at which the field is reduced to 1/e of its value at boundary
when q={εμ[(1+p2)1/2-1]/2}1/2
P=σ/εω
μ= permeability of tissue material
ε= dielectric permeability
σ= conductivity of tissue material
Further derivation gives that the electric field inside the body is –
E=E0 e-zω(με0εr) 1/2 /2

Obesrvation:

The variations of electric fields at a distance `r’ from transmission tower and inside the human body of skin, muscle and high water content tissues.


Conclusion :

All above episode shows that the radiation from the Radio, TV and MTBS transmission towers are very harmful to the people living nearby. The harmfulness can be reduced as the distance increases. Hence the transmission towers should be located away from the residential areas at least one km away so that the adverse effect can be reduced very much.

I am trying to post the matrix table (in picture form)of the power penetration to human body on this forum, but subjected to the approval..

 
May 8, 2009 at 10:56 PMUnknown

Go see it yourself at site of how far the tower is located. I am pretty sure it is at least 2km away from SB Residence. We only talk scientific facts and not a word of mouth. So, no worry about tower issue.

 
May 9, 2009 at 1:21 AMDrag

I believe the transmission tower EKH mentioned is the one at the post office located less than 100 meters away from SB phase 1. You can even see it from the site plan.

 
May 9, 2009 at 6:25 AMUnknown

good grief ! Let's go to the site before making the decision then. Thanks Drag.

 
May 9, 2009 at 12:35 PMDynamic Resource Training & Consultancy

Hi,

I am one of the buyer of Southbay Residence. If you have the intention to purchase the property, pls call me and we can discuss on the buyer get buyer incentive.

As the price going to be increased after launching on 15 May, if you are interested to purchase the 3S link house, pls ack now.

H/P : 012-429-8619 (Ms. Tan)

 
May 9, 2009 at 6:03 PMPoppie

Hi, i was there and the telecom antenna is really there! so how now? really dangerous for health? any body has any data?

 
May 9, 2009 at 7:16 PMMS

AL, very scientific question. Need to understand the emission power, not all based stations having high transmission power which will affect the human. We need to find a way how to get this data especially from the telekom office.

 
May 9, 2009 at 9:31 PMPoppie

so how? has anyone taken the AR to take this data? or just don't care and stay in and pay 795k?

 
May 9, 2009 at 10:27 PMDrag

I just went to see their show unit. Below are my personal comments:

Building:
- Superb renovation, beat SPI show unit renovation all the way
- Downstairs toilet ventilation issue still need to be addressed
- Too many toilets, great if able to convert some toilet to be more practical usable area or merge the first floor toilet to form a bigger one
- Open air bathroom concept is really good, I believe it'll helps in humidity control but doubt if suitable to people who used to bath at night and also wonder is it safe or comfortable to use during rainy day
- Really like their open kitchen + wet kitchen. Spacious and nice.
- Crude workmanship is observable inside the corner unit ground floor toilet (check out the wall tiles)
- Solid wood for the main door (not sure if the actual unit given solid wood?) vs decorative wood used in SPI

Surrounding ambiance:
- Mosques too close and too loud
- Transmission tower surrounding the neighborhood (from the back of the 1st floor show unit I can see 1 at the post office within ~100 meters, and 2 at the front at the hill side within ~300 meters)
- Buyer need to aware some units are build on top of swampy area

One of the guard do not sound friendly when he chasing people to leave when viewing hour is up. Instead of 'invite' people to leave he asked people to leave immediately.

 
May 9, 2009 at 10:58 PMUnknown

can anyone know how many units have sold from launching until now?

 
May 9, 2009 at 11:21 PMUnknown

Read this article for more details, for simplicity, should live 300m away from the transmission station.

http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm#hot

 
May 9, 2009 at 11:36 PMUnknown

SY,you mean SB is not a safe hse to live there?

 
May 10, 2009 at 8:57 AMUnknown

Millie, scientifically, it is not proven the tower is emitting harmful radiation which exceeded the human absorption limits. Based on what I read from the internets, the most idea distance is >300meters. In other words, phase 2 and onwards has no concerns.

In order to further prove it, we need some experts on site to measure the radiation power so that we can use scientific method to calculate the tissue absorption.

If you look at the table above which I had posted, Radio(AM/FM) and TV broadcasting which is much much far higher as compare to Based station, it is certainly harmful to human being.

I think most of us are over reacted on the situation and make wild judgement. It is not fair to the Southbay buyers.

However, having said that, whether are those phase 1 buyer safe to stay ? Need further scientific justification.

 
May 10, 2009 at 9:02 AMUnknown

Millie, I was told about 70 to 80% were sold (phase 2 onwards). They will officially launching this project very soon. Show house is available for viewing now.

The only drawback of this project is the car porch. I had highlighted this concerns to the management, hopefully there will be some changes done during the construction period.

 
May 10, 2009 at 9:06 AMUnknown

Drag, by referencing to the photo posted by "wireless", is this the transmission tower you are referring ?

Sorry as I was staying in Batu Ferinnggi, too lazy to go on site to witness. Can u help me to clarify this point ?

 
May 10, 2009 at 12:22 PMDrag

SY, I'm not quite sure which angle "wireless" is shooting from by looking at the picture. It seems to be far end of where phase 2 near to the main road. By assuming my guess is correct, it seems there is another tower blocked by the tree which is the post office tower pointed out by EKH (I remember the tower is lower than the one appeared on the left). On the right of the picture, there is another tower (total 2) which is out of the viewing range of the picture.

I don't think anyone is able to tell if those tower really posses any harmful radiation to the resident. Only time is able to tell... If people are keen to find out, a few questions I can think of hopefully are useful or just take it as junks... (I'm not a radio expert, just some question from laymen perspective):
- what type of frequency is the tower transmitting?
- are they still active?
- what are the signal strength?
- what is the signal coverage angle?
- with the above, do we have any fact to support safe distance for human for long hour exposure to the transmission signal?
- as the towers surrounding the area, will the intersection of the transmitted signal between tower generate higher harmful radio to the people?

 
May 10, 2009 at 12:53 PMUnknown

Drag, the freq is GSM. The frequency band used is 890-915MHz (mobile transmit) and 935-960MHz (base transmit). Radiation power is 50 watts. Like I said, penetration to the body is the key point. Need some scientific instrument to measure.

As a stick of yard, >300m is the safety point. The taller the tower, the better it will be away from the residence area (Pythagoras' theorem).

 
May 10, 2009 at 4:02 PMPoppie

anyone still need people to recommend to get the $$ reco fees?? contact southbayrocks@gmail.com, we can talk details on how to share out the rebate.

 
May 10, 2009 at 6:56 PMUnknown

If you take a closer look at the tower near to the post office, the "round" shape transmitters (3 of them) are actually not facing SouthBay. They are facing to the side opposite the post office (FIZ area).

 
May 10, 2009 at 7:14 PMMS

Website below is good for layman like all of us with regards to Based station tower :

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_1_3X_Cellular_Phone_Towers.asp

 
May 10, 2009 at 10:47 PMeng

I agree with YS, i purposely visit Sentral green and found that Sentral Green in term of house quality, design and finishing are better than SB show unit.The unit sell @ RM768K.

SB is wrong of focus, they are promoting their toilet/washroom design. The room and hall at second floor look small because of too many toilet/washroom is build.

The toilet/washroom is great but other finishing is just like normal quality standard. Cement flooring at 3rd floor garden, no fan point at maid room, office aluminum sliding door and window, any concealed air-cond piping?,ugly stair case and main door, No shielded car porch.

Does it worth RM795K?

Anyone agree with me? Do we need to demand more to Marsing developer?

I am seriously consider to withdraw back my deposit.

 
May 10, 2009 at 11:07 PMUnknown

Visited show house yesterday. The carporch is not shown on site. From the plan, it is only 20ft. Car will be almost reaching the sliding door after parking, esp. those with big luxury car. The staircase tiles with thick line cutting is quite unsightly. Problem collecting dirt.

 
May 10, 2009 at 11:07 PMUnknown

eng, please go ahead. and please email me your unit. i am very keen and seriously to get one but it seems that not many units left.

my email: bslim04@gmail.com

 
May 10, 2009 at 11:11 PMMS

Sentral Green :
RM 828,000
Built-up 3,036 s.f.
Land 20X70, 5bedrooms

Mah Sing :
RM 795,000
Built up 3130 s.f
land 22x75, 6 Bedrooms

Pls do a comparison before you open your mouth.

 
May 10, 2009 at 11:18 PMMS

RM 828K is derived from below website :

http://property.malaysiamostwanted.com/projects/sentral-greens

 
May 10, 2009 at 11:39 PMUnknown

MS, I think Eng is right.
The Land size for Sentral Greens is 20'x75' not 70' as you stated.

The the price is confirm RM768K and not 828K

 
May 10, 2009 at 11:43 PMeng

MS, correct me if I am wrong. :)

RM828,000 is for unit land area 20' X 90'

RM768,000 is for the intermidiate unit land area 20' X 75'

 
May 11, 2009 at 12:01 AMeng

The info is from their sale brochure and www.dnpland.com.my

 
May 11, 2009 at 12:02 AMPenangGuy

Just a quick question, anyone know whether SB area can flooding?

 
May 11, 2009 at 12:24 AMeng

penanguy, if refering to their map, you can observe a swampy area at northwest direction.

but according to their sales explaination, they will pile up the swampy area and it shall not have any flooding issues in SB.

 
May 11, 2009 at 12:24 AMUnknown

no flood according to the locals there(this is the real house speaking :))
Sentral Greeen (SG) is good, but NSEW is surrounded by LOW COST flats/apts, so Eng, pls go stay there lor :) SG says they will apply for guarded community concept now, but i doubt they can get it.

SB is not selling just house, but also the CONCEPT. so how can u do a 1:1 comparison?

Eng, pls let go your unit, and send out your unit number when done so that others can get it.

 
May 11, 2009 at 12:34 AMUnknown

Eng, pls do everyone a favor.
others, pls download this jpg file and see for yourself how much was sold..almost nothing left!

http://www.zshare.net/image/59838249f8ed3278/

 
May 11, 2009 at 12:40 AMeng

house, I totally agree that SG is good but location is bad (surrounded by flat).

The sales explaint that they will implement guarded but not "gated". The resident need touch'n'go and sticker to access inside. 4 guard routine 24 hour (2 morning, 2 night)

However, I am just express my point at property forum the pro and con. whether let go or not is none of your business. :)

 
May 11, 2009 at 12:51 AMUnknown

you have your opinion. SG case, they say 'WILL APPLY' only, didn't really apply yet and no solid foundation on how SG will do it, so I won't be too optimistic about that. you can try, but SB seems like a safer bet now.

toilet wise, maybe can just knock down and make the room bigger hehe... just keep your SB la..we can be good neighbours..

 
May 11, 2009 at 1:03 AMUnknown

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May 11, 2009 at 2:32 AMhp68

found that plenty of SB houses is going to build on top of the pond area, any idea does it safe to build houses on top of the pond area?

 
May 11, 2009 at 5:47 AMMS

E&O Tanjung Pinang project is build on sea reclaim land. Does this safe ????? Anyone has said a word on this ?

There was once I nearly get Relau Vista unit(next to SG project), but after went to the site, nearly get fainted. Full of low cost flats and full of indos. The worst is, only one exit road at the traffic junction. Bear in mind that after Relau Vista and SG house completed, there are hundreds of cars will exit from this junction during peak hour, good luck to those SG/Relau Vista buyers !!! I am not joking, go see it yourself, don't just talk here !!!

If SG can apply Guanrded, Relau Vista could have done that. When I asked SP Setia office, they said SORRY !!! That is why I did not buy the unit at Relau Vista.

For SG buyers, 20x75 is not suitable to park 2 cars, so one of their car need to park outside. If this area is not guarded, then it is susceptable to be stolen due to lots of indos staying outside. Also, not even talking about the flood issues.

I think a lot of "sour grapes" people here trying all ways to poison SB buyers, I am quite sure some are imposters from other competitors' buyers. Let's be careful.

Let's put it this way, there is no perfect house in this world. Some said SB toilet is perfect, some said over doing (when people give more, never say thank you, and commented over doing). Some said the staicase is nice, some said looks terrible. No ending !!

Siding an example, can any of the mobile phone company proclaim they will design one model of handphone that tailored suits all the people in this world ?

I agreed with "house", those who do not want the unit, pls get a refund immediately, we are not welcoming this people to be our neighbour and get the hell out of this place !

 
May 11, 2009 at 6:14 AMMS

E&O and IJM - THE LIGHTS are a complete sea reclaim land, they are going to even build 5 star hotel, condos, Bangalows etc. Does this safe as compare to the little swampy area in SB (see photo above) ? Guys, let's make sense here !!

My friend stay in Taman Iping, the mosque is quite a distance, you can hardly hear the noise. What the big fuss ?

Mah Sing has taken the liberty to widening the road access to Bayan Lepas Expressway, what has SPI have done so far since OC has been obstained ?

Talking about Sentral Greens (SG), if it is guarded, they need to hire 4 guards, this translates every household needs to pay around RM130 (RM1.5K x 4/54 units). No facility at all !!!! Worth ?? Compare to SB, I only need to pay RM100 more to enjoy full fledge condo facilities. Make sense ???

 
May 11, 2009 at 10:01 AMUnknown

Hello, I believe many sour grapes will start posting bad stuffs about SB now. Don't fall into the trap. They just want to cause people to pannick and let go of your unit so that they can buy :)
Think of it as the stocks, when the price is high, someone will say bad things about the company to make it down so that they themselves can buy :)
make your own judgement.
I am a proud buyer of SB :)

 
May 11, 2009 at 10:04 AMeng

anyone can comfirm the prayer sound come from Surau or Mosque?

 
May 11, 2009 at 10:07 AMUnknown

for the prayer sound, pls go to the site at prayer times and hear la..i think 7 something is the main prayer for them? not sure, just go there and hear it. can everyone of SB buyers work together? we go listen at different days/times of solat, then share info here? get bigger samples ma

 
May 11, 2009 at 10:10 AMUnknown

Total commments in Setia Pearl Island, launched 2 years? = 261

Total comments in SB, launched 1 year = 264 already! and counting!

What does that tell you?? hahaha..go SB!

 
May 11, 2009 at 10:22 AMUnknown

house, you are right. remember that SPI needed to make a concert on the first launching, hire some HK singer (Leoku etc etc TVB people?) and make big concert, fireworks, bla bla..to attract crowd?

Look at SB, just a simple free meal party, and the show house is JAMMED PACKED with people everyday, crazy!

SB people, you won't regret this place :)

 
May 11, 2009 at 10:28 AMMS

SB have not constructed their clubhouse and vicinity landscapes. Wait until one day when all these are completed, then we can see those people who gave poison words are dripping their saliva at the other side of fence.....

SB will be surrounded with 4 star and 5 star hotels, and high class commercial areas, what does SG has ??? Full of low cost apartments with lots of clothes hanging outside !!

house, good statistics !! Hooray hooray !!!

 
May 11, 2009 at 2:04 PMUnknown

My friend has collected his SP Setia's house keys and he is very disappointed with SP's quality. He has found more than 80 defects in his house and contractor has called him to settle offline instead of making official complaints. He found cement is not fully pasted on reverse side of floor and wall tiles if knocking by coin could hear a hollow sound. Wall is not plasted in straight line and it looks like low cost house. He was surprised when they removed a tile from the bathroom, he saw a power point has wires zig-zag to side before up to ceiling. Most of the people will think that all wires will be installing straight up to ceiling from the power point. If you have this mind set then you will get"electric shock" when drilling the holes.

Besides this, there is only 1 grill for 2 windows in the kitchen. A stupid reason was given that due to a room on downstair and avoid people break in, so you can break in through another window in kitchen lor.

 
May 11, 2009 at 3:11 PMDavieharely

on the stop work, the authority gave them instruction to demolish the show unit! now the plan is frezze, not sure of the reason but could be due to hill land development. rumour out in the market that buyers getting refund. anyone aware? looks like the project would not resume so soon, if so maybe not a 3-storey building...replica watches

 
May 11, 2009 at 3:45 PMUnknown

HALLO Davieharely

Did you check your fact before posting? Please check before you post any comment here.

 
May 11, 2009 at 4:43 PMUnknown

is there a way to report 'abusive content'? i wanna report this guy Davieharely. baseless comments. :)

 
May 11, 2009 at 4:54 PMUnknown

do you guy think we can team up and press the developer to change a few thing on the real house later?

few bad comment of the house i collected so far:
1) ugly front door design
2) cement on 3rd floor garden
3) stair case tile cutting is bad
4) car porch is too short, can't cover whole car
5) no shower screen at all toilet

does any one know if we will have autogate?

 
May 11, 2009 at 6:05 PMeng

TC i am totally agree with you to team a buyer group to voice up unsatisfaction on certain finishing problems.

 
May 11, 2009 at 6:07 PMeng

I heard the developer (not comfirm)might offer upgrading plan in future, autogate is one of the upgrade item, of course we have to paid $$.

 
May 11, 2009 at 7:36 PMUnknown

it seems like now the buyer are more desperate than developer, so i am not suprised that they are demanding more $$ for any requests :)

yes, the list from TC looks good, any other requests? we can compile them and send it to them one shot

 
May 11, 2009 at 8:50 PMMS

I had wrote an email to Mah Sing office few days ago complaining about the car porch is too short. I do hope they will seriously look into this matter.

We all can ignore this psycho Davieharely(sounds like Devil).

 
May 11, 2009 at 9:07 PMUnknown

by the way, i see that the ground floor, there are lots of beam at the ceiling. Surely need plaster ceiling to cover that. else ugly. :(

 
May 11, 2009 at 9:48 PMKent

Visited SB show units on last Sunday, noted that a lot of fly is over that area....any comments on this....

 
May 11, 2009 at 10:14 PMMS

Eric, adding the car porch issue.

So, how to go about this matter as a group to pursue further with Mah Sing management ?

Bear in mind, when u signed the agreement, you had already accepted the house spec and dimensions, lawfully, you cannot do anything about it. However, we need to go with a more professional approach to overcome such obstacle as a team. Need to find a way how to do this.

Suggestions ?

 
May 11, 2009 at 10:42 PMPenangGuy

Staircase handler is still acceptable BUT the staircase floor tiles very very urgly! And the power points are located too low... should put higher?
The third floor garden got one opening vent for water tank access, that one should cover up to prevent birds...etc to make their 'home' there! Today i went to the show house again and double check the transimission towers location. The one at post office is very close to Phase1 and about 300m from Phase2. Another two at school there are about 200 to 250 meters from SB guard house. Any comment?
About 95% are sold out... only left few conner units as per today 10am!!!

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:14 PMeng

anyone have any idea whether the house is single phase or 3-phase power supply?

staircase handler look low class, and shall change. The tiles line cutting ugly as well.

TC, for sure need to cover up the beam with plaster ceiling. Right now, the cost estimate RM5/sqFt? Just at ground floor (approx. RM5X22ftX50ft=RM5500. is it anyway to persue MarSing to offer free upgrade for the plaster ceiling to cover up the beam?

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:20 PMUnknown

hey, one thing to note. how come they cannot give us the spec? so far they only show me to see at the office but never allow me to take it home. :-(
anyone know why or anyone of you have the spec with you?

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:24 PMeng

just need someone comfirm strata title can allow owner to change the color of glass (example window & front glass door?)

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:28 PMUnknown

I got the info from Mahsing today that they are going to send out the feedback form to buyer to write down the request this week, and Mahsing will evaluate it. No guarantee on when and whether the feedback will be fully accepted or provide it through upgrade package. But I did notify the officer that it definitely need to give the answer (yes or no) to buyer before signing S&P. Below is the consolidation from prev posting + new request. Let's gather the buyer power :)

- Improve door quality, especially front door (at least comparable to Sentral Green)
- Improve window quality (again, at least comparable to Sentral Green)
- Improve 3rd floor roof top garden cement floor
- Improve staircase handler quality
- Lengthen car porch to cover whole car
- Include shower screen at all toilets
- Provide optional package to embed network cable and CCTV cable
- Cover up the beam with plaster ceiling

I just visited office in the evening, only left 6 units. The rest is either confirmed/reserved. Good sales. So buyer got to fight for their interest too now :)

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:31 PMUnknown

Eng:

for sure it is 3 phase power supply, i saw the spec from them. As i mention, the don't allow me to take the paper back. :-(

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:33 PMeng

they are using 2X2 procelain homogenous tiles, call Sixny from China.
For toilet and storeroom, they are using 1X1 procelain ceramic tiles, whitehorse brand.

Anyone know how reliable of this tiles?

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:39 PMeng

I am not intent to fight with someone, but I would recommand SB buyer go to visit Sentral green show house and compare with SB show house.

you will know why I am so demanding. The DNP developer really put efford on interial quality of the house to win buyer heart but unfortunately location & surrounding is the major drawback.

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:53 PMUnknown

Agree with eng, i also paid a visit to sentral green today. The surrounding and traffic are really the major drawback, but the house interior quality on door, window and staircase handler are better. So hopefully we can demand Mahsing to improve that and make SB a better place.

 
May 11, 2009 at 11:56 PMUnknown

forget to mention 1 thing, SG 3rd floor roof top garden is finished with well done floor instead of cement

 
May 12, 2009 at 12:13 AMeng

hi ron, just compare with both renovated show house. i found that SB need heavily renovated in order to feel grand compare to SG.

If we are not demanding, we will spend a lot of money on basic renovation.

If MarSing refuse to change the finishing spec. it mean the buyer already absorb the hidden cost for the 595 interest, legal & stamp duty transfer, club house facilities, 2 year maintenance cost and etc.

let show the buyer power.

 
May 12, 2009 at 12:44 AMUnknown

hehe...eng, personally i still prefer SB renovated show house except the door, window, roof top garden floor and staircase. Feel that SG third floor master bed room has too many corners/partitions. If SB could match SG strong areas, that will be great!

 
May 12, 2009 at 7:40 AMUnknown

"ron" did a good job to summarize the wish list. I also inline with "eng", if we don't raise our expectation in a concerted effort, we will then need to fork out huge amount of renovation cost. Price has gone up so much from 755K to 775K to 795K to 805K, and next ??? Equally, we expect a better quality house.

Compare to SG house design (not commenting about the finishing work), SB has better advantage due to 22x75 as compare to SG at 20x75. The extra 2 feet can improve lots of things.

To those in doubt about the plaster ceiling, yes, it will be covered by Mah Sing as stated in the spec.

 
May 12, 2009 at 8:12 AMUnknown

Notice there is no water tap/paip at the roof top garden area. I think Mah Sing should put one there. Else, how are we going to clean that area? Take water from the bathroom next to it? This is very troublesome.

 
May 12, 2009 at 10:10 AMUnknown

I agree with Ron, Eric & TC's proposals, I would like to add 1 point here for improvement which centralized piping for water heater. Not sure you guys/gals aware or not, 1 good water heater costs about RM400 and 6 units will be RM2400 plus installation fee around RM300 assuming RM50/set. Total is about RM3K and we can install 1 solar water heater for 6 bathrooms by adding less than RM1K. It is worth for long run instead of using high power consumption water heaters. I am sure some of you may not agree with me because they get used to it bath with cold water.

 
May 12, 2009 at 11:08 AMMS

We need to be reasonable and rationale on our wish list. We do not want Mah Sing management to perceives us as, paying a Honda Civic but asking for an Accord. As long as it is reasonable, we will support !

 
May 12, 2009 at 12:17 PMUnknown

Developer will offer upgrade plans. Solar Heater may be one of them

 
May 12, 2009 at 4:23 PMPenangGuy

Hi Ron, might need to consider staircase tiles as well...?!

 
May 12, 2009 at 5:07 PMUnknown

Hi PenangGuy, i thought the staircase floow space is already the homogeneous procelain?

 
May 12, 2009 at 7:26 PMeng

the wishlist need buyer to sign?

 
May 12, 2009 at 7:45 PMUnknown

Eng, since Mah Sing will send us the feedback form, we can use this wish list to present it to them. Works ?

 
May 12, 2009 at 8:31 PMeng

It sound OK.I think the feedback form not enough to fill in our wish list. Do we need to compile (pdf file) to be an attachment and distribute out via email to whoever buyer we know?

 
May 12, 2009 at 8:57 PMPenangGuy

Hi Ron, ya you are right. But the cutting (lines to prevent slippery) and the shapes (some turning area is more than 2", so they join the tiles) are very ugly as the lines on the tiles can collect dust and turns to black color... You can see that at showroom1 and showroom3. Showroom2 they use wood parquet.
Second stuff that we might want to consider is the power points located too low. Dangerous to kids. Can suggest move upwards a bit. Just my opinion...

 
May 12, 2009 at 9:35 PMUnknown

PenangGuy, your concern is valid, however, it is not the normal way to position the power point on a higher locations, else all the wires will be dangling around, doesn't looks good at all.

Wood parquet is a bad choice as it attracts termites. I have seen this is happening at my parent house before.

 
May 12, 2009 at 9:53 PMUnknown

Ya, diff ppl with diff opinion :) Anyway, we need a consolidation here. It is kind of hard to gather different thoughts in this forum, do you guys think we need a scheduled meeting to brainstorm and go through this?

 
May 12, 2009 at 9:57 PMUnknown

Skype ?

 
May 12, 2009 at 11:33 PMUnknown

can meet during SnP signing? :)

 
May 13, 2009 at 9:16 AMUnknown

I hope we can gather so many people together at the same hour, let's see how it goes. I heard the SnP will sign sometime by end of this month.

 
May 13, 2009 at 10:37 AMUnknown

so is anyone pulling out?

 
May 13, 2009 at 9:15 PMJayven

I agree with what most of you have to say on the wish list for improvements. Mine in priority order is:
1. Lengthen car porch to cover whole car (most important for me as we live in tropical country where it's either hot or wet).
2. Improve staircase railings quality and design(2nd because if not done, we have to hack the tiles and stairs to put new railings which is going to be messy)
3. Improve front door design and quality (3rd because it's just so darn ugly, and everyone who visited the show house had a bad impression)
4. Allocate a proper place inside the house with drainage system to put a washing machine (instead of suggesting us to put it ouside at the back of the kitchen where it will be damaged by rain and sun)
5. Yes power points should be low, but I suggest moving the switches higher to around 1.5m of height so that kids can't play with them.
6. Cover beam with plaster ceiling (i was told this might not be possible as some people do not want to sacrifice the high ceiling)
7. As for putting shower screen in all toilets, improving on the staircase tiles joining and having tiles instead of ugly cement on the top floor, is not so much of a concern to me but of course if can be improved by Mah Sing by all means I would be happy.

 
May 14, 2009 at 8:41 AMPenangGuy

Hi SY, JAY n Ve,
Ya your concern on the plug points can't put higher r make sense. But switch points can be put higher if possible. Should we create our own webpage?

 
May 14, 2009 at 12:26 PMUnknown

How about creating a closed Group in Facebook for better coordination?

 
May 14, 2009 at 12:55 PMUnknown

PenangGuy, I believe you are refering to circuit breaker box, right?

 
May 14, 2009 at 1:34 PMPenangGuy

No, i'm refering to normal lighting switch...etc. You know la... kids like to ON OFF swithes and danger to them if put too low.
Aquarius, we can use facebook or if need server i got one registered hosting server :)

 
May 14, 2009 at 1:51 PMJayven

I am in favour of doing anything to get all the potential owners together to bring our complain/improvement list to Mah Sing. Only with unity we will stand a chance to get Mah Sing to listen to us. Therefore I do hope more people come forward to participate and voice their concerns either in this blog or in a seperate forum.

PenangGuy, will it cost us to use your registered host? We don't want to do anything that will cost people and scare them away.

 
May 14, 2009 at 2:19 PMUnknown

hey guy, one more thing, can we do anything to remove or move the telecom tower further from residence area?

 
May 14, 2009 at 2:22 PMPenangGuy

No...it won't cost any cent, i already paid for that. But need some professional to create the webpage (should be easy for those who know about webpage design since got a lot of open source application template) and park into my server by using my domain extension for eg. www.xxxx/southbay/admin1.html
But if we can use other third party stuff like facebook/friendster/blog... it is fine for us as well. As long as can gather everyone and upload photo...etc.

 
May 14, 2009 at 4:20 PMUnknown

does everyone know if we do not take the loan from the 4 banks (maybank,cimb,pbb and affin), and take othes bank, will the developer still absorb all the interest during construction?
reason is, i saw that ocbc provide better interest rate for loan. comment anyone?

 
May 15, 2009 at 12:47 AMxzqtiv

please include me in the discussion. i am one of the buyers as well.

xzqtiv@gmail.com

 
May 15, 2009 at 3:13 PMSubaG

Looks like phase4 is selling for RM835K

 
May 15, 2009 at 8:24 PMUnknown

815k no?

 
May 15, 2009 at 9:02 PMUnknown

if you buy your unit 5 weeks ago or older, and would like to reco my friend for some $$ earnings, kindly contact
properti168@gmail.com

 
May 16, 2009 at 10:18 PMUnknown

so no more complains about the antenna? now that phase 1-3 are all sold out. i wonder if anyone will pull out on SnP signing?

 
May 16, 2009 at 11:14 PMxzqtiv

was surprised why mah sing only open 2 rows instead of 4 rows. they should open all in view of the demand.

 
May 16, 2009 at 11:15 PMxzqtiv

hi all SB buyers, wonder if you all discuss at another platform. please include me as well as i have bought one last weekend. thanks.

xzqtiv@gmail.com

 
May 16, 2009 at 11:26 PMPenangGuy

Open one phase by one phase... to earn more and more ma... :-)

 
May 17, 2009 at 1:19 AMMs

How much to buy for the I Phrase in SB now? Still avaliable? Thanks

 
May 17, 2009 at 3:02 PMUnknown

Hello, if anyone still needs an introducer for the BGB program, contact me at sbbuyer88@gmail.com. Guaranteed good rebate for you!

 
May 17, 2009 at 8:46 PMUnknown

marc..too late already, it is 815K. I guess you missed the boat

 
May 17, 2009 at 8:48 PMPenangGuy

I visited the show house again. According to the sales person, we will ask to sign SnP very soon... and once SnP is ready, our feedback will be for future development! Unless those minor changes that not specified in SnP.
So, anyone has any idea for us to feedback and improve it for our phases rather than future development?!

 
May 18, 2009 at 12:53 AMUnknown

things hilited in wish list depend very much on individual, the key one is
-car porch if it is too short, i guess it is general concern & shud feedback because that involve major & costly work
-plaster ceiling, not all ppl prefer, some ppl particular on health as it degrades over time, some like tall or own design makes the hall looks grand. i think it depends
-staircase railing rework, agreed it can be messy & costly, if SB could enhance certainly add value
-central piping water heater, good if this can be an option to build-in

thanks

 
May 18, 2009 at 8:32 PMSubaG

Guys....we really need to get together to at least have the car porch extended. I suggest we meet this Saturday either in Queensbay mall or maybe Kayu

 
May 18, 2009 at 9:17 PMeng

subaG,

count me in, I will attend.

pls update the vanue once comfirm.

 
May 18, 2009 at 9:30 PMUnknown

need to tell them to have awning (right spelling?) at the back also?

 
May 18, 2009 at 9:58 PMUnknown

just meet at the show house and talk to them? why meet at kayu or QB?

 
May 18, 2009 at 11:12 PMUnknown

hi guys, we should approach them in a more professional way rather than group together and talk to them at thier show house which indirectly we are "forcing" them to accept our wishlist.

if we voice out our wishlist in a correct manner (email to them and let them compile to their management), i believe they will work out something for us as they have been doing this since day 1 i placed my booking in march2008. of course, not all our wishlist will be attended to but at least they have done more than what other developers.

frankly, i nearly cancel my booking in november2008 but was impressed on how they handle us in a professional way via various efforts and updates.

by the way, i have forwarded my wishlist to them days ago. why don't you guys do the same?

 
May 18, 2009 at 11:13 PMDynamic Resource Training & Consultancy

Hi All,

Where is the venue to meet up, QB, Kayu or SB's show house?

I am interested in the discussion.

One Voice....

 
May 18, 2009 at 11:37 PMUnknown

no need to gang up. just fill up the form and have everybody sign (petition?)

 
May 19, 2009 at 12:28 AMeng

let get ready a reasonable wishlist,and as many signature as possible.

 
May 19, 2009 at 8:20 AMPenangGuy

Ya I agree with House suggestion. Come out the wish list with descending priorities and everybody sign it and send to MS. It is better than we send out email individually; at least they can glance through our compiled wish list and carryout any required action/communication ASAP! As the sales person told me, once the SnP is ready, they hardly can change the plan (eg. car park awning).

 
May 19, 2009 at 11:32 AMUnknown

Anyone want to be recommender to share the buyer2buyer bonus. Please kindly let me know!
manyant@gmail.com

 
May 19, 2009 at 11:33 AMUnknown

Hello SB's owners, Anyone wants to be recommender to share the buyer2buyer bonus. Please kindly let me know!
manyant@gmail.com

 
May 19, 2009 at 12:55 PMSubaG

I don't think we should gang up at the show house...wouldn't want to look like a mob..beter to start off on the right footing with the developer...I am now thinking that sending our individual wish list in sepaate e-mails, might not be such a bad idea, but will be good if we all send it to the same person...is there an e-mail ID that we can send to? really, really need to get the front porch awning fixed...really don'y want to see each house owner extending it on their own whim and facny with different color and grandiose decor...

 
May 19, 2009 at 1:42 PMUnknown

Venus Ho (Marketing & Sales Manager)
venusho@mahsing.com.my

 
May 19, 2009 at 3:26 PMvivian

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Further please leave down your contact number or email summercfl84@hotmail.com here and i will get back to all of you soonest.

Thanks a lot and have a nice days!!

 
May 19, 2009 at 3:52 PMUnknown

no vivian, we are not looking for house loan. kindly respect this forum for SB discussion, any advertisement stuffs, pls use other channel.

ok SB buyers, let's start sending our wish list to venus now.

 
May 19, 2009 at 4:15 PMUnknown

need to make sure all of us send to show the buyers desire and wish.

 
May 19, 2009 at 4:44 PMSubaG

...hehe...i would have expected better english from international/global wide bank...but then..

 
May 20, 2009 at 10:49 AMUnknown

anyone else need a recomender for buyer reco buyer scheme? mail to me properti168@gmail.com

I offer 'flexible' rates :)

 
May 20, 2009 at 10:55 AMUnknown

house, they have stopped their referral scheme already.

 
May 21, 2009 at 8:03 AMPenangGuy

Hi, anyone able to obtain BLR-2.3 with flexi plan? Which bank?

 
May 21, 2009 at 9:15 AMeng

affin bank offer BLR(5.50%) - 2.3 term loan, upon completion can apply to convert flexi.

 
May 21, 2009 at 10:56 AMUnknown

eng, its flexi directly, no need to apply for conversion, apply for conversion only for CIMB

 
May 21, 2009 at 4:46 PMeng

which flexi you re refering to?

PBB, Affin, Maybank offer Semi-Flexi term loan.

CIMB offer term loan during construction period, and able to 100% convert to full flexi loan[with cheque book ficilities].

during construction period, term loan and semi-flexi term loan made no different [3 year max. zero interest]

but later,if you wish to dumb all your business profit into your house loan to offset the daily interest. you might need to consider flexi loan with current acct.Or if you're company staff with fix income, semi-flexi is more suitable.

 
May 21, 2009 at 7:15 PMUnknown

eng, could you help to explain more on the difference between the flexi and semi-flexi? thanks

 
May 21, 2009 at 8:45 PMeng

the differences between semi-flexi and flexi is the facilities offer in the loan package.

Flexi Loan do have a current account, you can withdraw anytime, any amount(balance) just issued your personel cheque. The maintenance cost is RM10 / month.(regardless how many cheques you issues)

Semi-Flexi term loan dont have current account, any withdrawer need 2 working day processing time. Every withdrawer charge RM25 / transaction. (PBB charge RM50)

this is what i found out from Banker explaination.

 
May 22, 2009 at 8:57 PMUnknown

Affin gives FULL FLEXI LOAN, no need conversion. call your officer

 
May 22, 2009 at 10:34 PMUnknown

nope, just confirm with Affin, it is semi-flexi with RM25 charge per withdrawal. In addition, withdrawal process takes 1 day to go through with minimum RM5K amount.

 
May 22, 2009 at 11:46 PMPenangGuy

Ya. Ron you are right. The sales person also told me that.
Anyone going to sign SnP next week?

 
May 23, 2009 at 9:44 AMSubaG

I will be signing it on 21st May

 
May 23, 2009 at 1:43 PMUnknown

tell me, anywhere gives FULL FLEXI without service charge for withdrawal?

 
May 23, 2009 at 5:12 PMAnonymous

I have concern on renovation deposits which stated in the contract is about 25% of your renovation cost to be kept by the management. For instance a RM100k renovation will means deposit of RM25k. And when the management refund back to you after 3 months but is not full amount where involve handling fees which the sales was not aware what is the acutal amount and why owner need to pay this fee...

 
May 23, 2009 at 11:48 PMUnknown

Hi house, i knew that Citibank is offering full flexi package without service charge, but it is not Southbay panel and it used to only loan upto 80% only. So far the 4 panel banks dont provide full flexi as of now.

treknex, the deposit to management during renovation is typical for condo, but 25% deposit is a bit too much. is this a confirm guide line from mahsing?

 
May 24, 2009 at 8:48 AMeng

anyone know the S&P that we sign include caveat?

 
May 24, 2009 at 11:47 AMAnonymous

Ron, you can ask the Sales at show house to show you the document about renovation fees. There are many house rules and this is just part of it. For example drying clothes, plants, contractors need permit...etc I cant remember all because is not allow to take a copy home.

Besides, the Sales also telling me owner is not allow to change the main gate (MahSing provided mild steel gate) and the main door. I was quite dissapointed as i dont really like the original design of main door (or no design at all) and the way the gate open also giving me problem as the car porch diatance to gate is pretty short.

 
May 24, 2009 at 7:17 PMSubaG

...would be good if Mah Sing could have better gates and door, so that we all don't end up resorting to doing our own gates/doors with different design...to ensure our property looks appealing and maintains a good $$ appreciation, I would think the plus point will be if all the houses are uniform in their facade

 
May 24, 2009 at 11:06 PMUnknown

would this strata limitation devalue the property?

 
May 25, 2009 at 8:29 AMPenangGuy

It depends on individual. Some say we can maintain and standardize the entire housing area and of course we got all the condo-type facilities and gated community. Some say we are bounds by rulesssss, cannot breed dogs, cannot extend our house, cannot install owning, limited vehicle pass, have to pay maintenance fees…etc. Then what is the purpose of staying in landed property?!
For me I feel these are the pros and cons that we cannot have both. The individual title should be higher appreciated than strata for landed property. But I enjoy to have gated and condo-type facilities. Some of the rules are meant to be” broken” after we obtained our strata… it depends on our community (we will form ourselves few years later) reasonable flexibilities. For eg. Breeding dogs, number of vehicles (if I have 4 Smarts car, I should able to enter all 4 vehicles as I won’t block other people entrance/road)… Just an example… :)

 
May 25, 2009 at 9:23 AMAnonymous

Is subjective to how people perceive the concept and how is the demand for this type of properties. We can see now the demand is so great and overwhelming but i dont know if people really understand the meaning of landed with strata title which is different compare to individual title. As explained by Mah Sing GM Mr HB Tan described it as a horizontally-placed condominium.

 
May 25, 2009 at 9:47 AMTrek

i think 2 cars is not enough if you have big family living there. Bear in mind not everyone has smart car at home.

 
May 25, 2009 at 11:04 AMPenangGuy

Ya... agree with Trek. 2 cars not enough for this 3-stories house. 4 cars also just 'gham gham' for some family!

 
May 25, 2009 at 12:28 PMUnknown

Any News?

 
May 25, 2009 at 1:49 PMSubaG

loan infor that I know as of now

CIMB
BLR-2.2%
Term loan initially, then convert to full flexi
will need to pay RM10 per month to maintain current account

Affin
BLR-2.3%
Semi-flexi
Will need to pay RM25 to withdraw money

Does anyone have info from the other banks pls

 
May 25, 2009 at 3:33 PMUnknown

trenex, where did u get the 25% reno deposit? putting it for 3 months is not worth as there is no interest for the money !

 
May 26, 2009 at 12:16 AMUnknown

did a quick check with developer n solicitor on the reno deposit. it's 25% of the reno cost as estimated or a sum determinted by the management. reno deposit will be placed in FD a/c n will be refunded with interest less admin cost after reno work done. this is to make sure no damage done to common area n external building - to maintain the uniformity of the whole development.

i'd urge genuine buyers to check with relevant parties instead of been confused n mislead by irresponsible postings.

PenangGuy, i'll be signing this coming weekend, loan from MBB. cheerio.

 
May 26, 2009 at 12:24 AMUnknown

PenangGuy, i've different view than yours. landed strata will demand higher value due to its community living n uniformity. no hanky-panky biz next door - at least it's solely for residential. that's why the trend is towards this kind of living.

criminal cases keep increasing, gated will at least add layers to the security of our family. that's the reason why i opted for southbay.

just my $0.02

 
May 26, 2009 at 12:29 AMUnknown

not to offend anyone.. if one cannot accept the rules imposed by gated living; if one would like to do external reno on facade, gate, etc etc. then i'd advise one to go for non-gated development as gated is definitely not your choice of living.

 
May 26, 2009 at 7:50 AMSubaG

completely agree with you Steven..we should know what we are signing for......no point in having heartaches about not being being able to renovate to one's fancy when you know you have signed for a landed strata...I know live in a housing area where each house looks like it was built by its owner from ground up...complete disaster

 
May 26, 2009 at 7:53 AMSubaG

Steven...why did you choose MBB over Affin, Affin seems to be giving BLR-2.3%, while MBB is BLR - 2.2%, also Affin's BLR is 5.5 wheras MBB is 5.55, which means there is a avings of 0.15% on Affin...the only con is that Affin lock-in is 5 years at 3%, while MBB is 4 years at 2.5%....I am still weighing Affin vs MBB

 
May 26, 2009 at 8:25 AMPenangGuy

Ya agree with Steven. We should know what we are signing for. I will go for Affin bank as the rate is much lower than MBB.
Anyone know when we can receive Buyer get Buyer incentive?
Another quick question, does anyone know whether we will have/need lightning rod protection?

 
May 26, 2009 at 8:59 AMUnknown

Hi PenangGuy, is it true we cannot breed dog also? For condo, it makes sense not to breed dog, but SouthBay is a landed house. There is no reason why we cannot breed dog.

On the bank side, I agree that Affin's offer is better as the interest rate is better and the only disadvantage is the 5 years lock-in period vs. MBB's 4 years. Also, MBB is more flexible than Affin in term of the prepayment withdrawal. If you are working people ( not business owner), Affin bank may be more suitable since you do not withdraw the prepayment very frequently.

 
May 26, 2009 at 9:37 AMPenangGuy

Hi SB, ya... according to the strata rules and regulations ( I also double check with the sales person) we cannot breed dog. But this is the rules... If you care your dog in a proper manner (without extensive barking and coming out to the common area and chase people...etc.) then no people complain and then should be okay I think. Many people also breed dog in condo... But again the rules are there...hmmm my $0.02 haha

 
May 26, 2009 at 9:53 AMUnknown

the buyer get buyer was terminated due to the auntie who camped out the show house 'terrorizing' visitors in her desperate attempt to earn $$ :)

 
May 26, 2009 at 10:34 AMPenangGuy

Wahhh so teruk?! But those who filled in the form since very early day also terminated? That is really not fair. I guess those who filled in the form should be entitled for the B2B incentive.

 
May 26, 2009 at 12:38 PMeng

ask an question....just now MS panel lawyer told me the developer not allow SB buyer to logde a caveat on their unit.

Do we really need a caveat or totally can ignore it?

 
May 26, 2009 at 8:16 PMUnknown

Good luck SB Buyers,
Make sure SB can provide better quality for you all and not like SP Setia. 1st enter to Northern Region already given bad quality of products, use keys knock the tiles have hollow sound. Penangites have SP Setia’s buyers as genuine pig and you all must think twice before signing S & P with SB. Good Luck

 
May 26, 2009 at 9:26 PMUnknown

so there's hollow sound knocking on SB also?which part? the tiles?

 
May 27, 2009 at 9:02 AMPenangGuy

Anyone face any difficulty to borrow up to 95% although your incomes meet all the requirements? So far beside Affin Bank anyone able to obtain BLR -2.3% from any other bank?

 
May 27, 2009 at 9:36 AMUnknown

no problem with loan. so far only affin. maybank not budging from its -2.2 rate

 
May 27, 2009 at 12:48 PMUnknown

SP, what makes u think SB = SPI's quality? data points?

 
May 27, 2009 at 4:09 PMeng

let me help SP XD

SP Setia Land Cost= RM140,000
Construction cost=RM698K-RM140K=RM558K
per sq ft = RM250

SB Land cost = RM165,000
Construction cost=RM795K-165K=630K
per sq ft = RM201

SB gated & guarded comunity concept, include club house, bla bla... extra cost incured.

SP Setia House quality = SUCK (comfirmed)

so SP might assume SB house quality =SP Setia house quality? (to be comfirm?)

2 cents joke....

 
May 27, 2009 at 5:11 PMPenangGuy

So complicated. Aiyah... who feel SP good then go for SP. Who feel SB good then go for SB... This world is freedom one. But just FYI, who want to purchase SB please don't too hesitate as not many units are left! We can know the actual sales status soon since now already called for SnP.

 
May 27, 2009 at 9:02 PMUnknown

i got another friend who just booked the 835K unit :) looks like still selling like hot cake? i am just wondering, if i let go my unit now, anyone willing to pay 820K for it? just curious to know :) good location

 
May 27, 2009 at 10:03 PMJoe

I was wondering if those that booked the phase 1 unit at 795k and decided to withdraw, do they still going to sell them at the old price?

 
May 27, 2009 at 11:37 PMUnknown

SubaG, i opted for MBB due to its speedy service offered by the sales person.

i was approached by Affin during the launch weeks ago. found it weird with Affin's sales person. they mentioned about this is their first time to offer flexi loan as all this while it's term loan. thus, operational wise they are pretty unsure. seriously, do they know what they are talking about.

 
May 27, 2009 at 11:47 PMUnknown

i remember SB resume their show units in end february 2009. during that point of time, nothing has been built yet except some foundation works for the show units. then show units were open for viewing in early may 2009 together with welcome statement and guard house. if i calculate correctly, they used less than 3 months time to construct 3 show units, 2 welcome statements, 1 guard house and landscaping plus widening the main road. it was a very speedy construction work, don't you guys think so?

3 months for all these and still able to provide this kind of quality workmanship (i like their walls' workmanship). don't you think we should give credit to SB?

i was told clubhouse and facilities will be ready by july/august 2009. can't wait!

 
May 27, 2009 at 11:58 PMUnknown

house, don't think you are allowed to sub-sale. unless you pay full the purchase price =)

joe, 795k was the old price. new price should be from 815k for phase1.

 
May 28, 2009 at 12:05 AMUnknown

cont' eng's 2 cents joke.

say SB is charging rm250 per sqft (as per SP). thus there's extra of rm153370 (rm49 x 3130 sqft). this extra equals to 64 years maintenace charge (rm200 per month).

understand SP residents are trying to form committee to make their guarded gated. what's the point of buying guarded then convert to gated? because one wants to make extensive external extension but at the same time wants security, community living, etc etc. weird, isn't it?

 
May 28, 2009 at 12:19 AMTrek

Anyone manage to confirm the transimssion tower (3 of them surrounded) post no harm to SB residents?

 
May 28, 2009 at 12:26 AMUnknown

eng, why do you want to lodge caveat on your unit? this will complicate the process of subdivision of the land, ie issuance of title.

just sharing, although SB wants us to use their appointed solicitor as they absorb legal fees and stamp duties but the solicitor is not developer's solicitor. the appointed solicitor will be acting on behalf of the buyer. moreover, SnP has clauses to protect buyer. not too worry.

 
May 28, 2009 at 12:35 AMUnknown

Trek, did you use handphone? this is more harmful lah...

those towers have been there for years. do these post any harms to those residents who stay at batu maung since ages?

 
May 28, 2009 at 12:38 AMUnknown

hey house, i remember seeing that desperate autie sitting in front of the sales office "terrorizing" visitors. kind of irritating though

 
May 28, 2009 at 3:40 AMTrek

JS, i think you probably could do this apple-apple comparison IF you are using h/p 24 7.

 
May 28, 2009 at 4:09 AMTrek

there was some discussion in previous postings on transmission towers. No one has any evidence to proof whether or not the location expose the residence to danger. i think we should not compare h/p with a base station as that is more stronger. Time will tell.

 
May 28, 2009 at 4:29 PMUnknown

so is everyone ready for the SNP signing? no turning back =)

 
May 29, 2009 at 9:56 AMMS

house, you are the real devil evocates....

 
May 29, 2009 at 3:04 PMUnknown

no la.. here's the angel side of me. i was there again this afternoon. sales on the 835K status : 50% of the next phase was booked!

 
May 29, 2009 at 3:46 PMMS

JS, when u attend the S&P signature at the lawyer firm, one of the document is, you cannot lodge a caveat against the developer. So, whatever it is given will be unchanged.

 
May 30, 2009 at 7:19 PMUnknown

Guys, i went to visit the show room today (30May), they have left with 7 units. The remaining of the next phase launch will be reserved for bumi. It will take sometime to release for non-bumi. So, those who still have not reserve or buy, you need to wait for the bumi lots release.

BGB has officially ceased, I believe it is due to the overwhelming sales, so no need BGB program to promote the sales.

 
May 31, 2009 at 8:53 AMJayven

Has anyone realised from the S&P that due to Southbay being a subdivided property development (strata), the time Mah Sing has to complete the development until VP is 36 months.

That's a very long time given for landed property but it seems that this is standard for subdivided property. :(
http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt_en/main.php?Content=sections&SectionID=1&DC

Another thing is that did anybody see and sign any documents that says Mah Sing will be paying for the legal fees, stamp duty, interest during construction period, etc?

 
May 31, 2009 at 1:03 PMeng

MS will definately complete this project within 2 years in order to save 3rd year loan interest.

Unless the worst is come.....

 
June 1, 2009 at 1:30 PMUnknown

why u wanna release it? looks like got ppl release it as the SnP signing draw near..

 
June 2, 2009 at 1:18 PMUnknown

cyberp3 could you give your unit number? Is it unit 192?

 
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